Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
*Ron, No doubt a major part of their success is the well written assembley manual...:-) now I wonder who wrote it? 73 Gary * On 5 January 2012 03:34, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Many "tips" that have come in over the years have been incorporated into > the > K3 Kit Assembly manual. > > Build the K3 just like you walk, one step at a time, and it will go right > together. At this point a great many K3 kits have been assembled quite > successfully by very average Hams, some as their first kit ever. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > -Original Message- > > The YouTube video is cute but not sure it is really helpful. > > What I did find helpful was the compilation of construction tips on the old > K3 Wiki, which has sadly been shut down. > > Barry N1EU > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
Many "tips" that have come in over the years have been incorporated into the K3 Kit Assembly manual. Build the K3 just like you walk, one step at a time, and it will go right together. At this point a great many K3 kits have been assembled quite successfully by very average Hams, some as their first kit ever. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- The YouTube video is cute but not sure it is really helpful. What I did find helpful was the compilation of construction tips on the old K3 Wiki, which has sadly been shut down. Barry N1EU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
The YouTube video is cute but not sure it is really helpful. What I did find helpful was the compilation of construction tips on the old K3 Wiki, which has sadly been shut down. Barry N1EU -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/How-Long-will-it-take-to-assemble-a-K3-100-tp7142563p7151207.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
ve3dvy wrote > > There was a YouTube video still linked on the Elecraft site that showed > that it took 7 minutes Ha Habut its has sadly been removed by its > owner. > It's still there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDfBJX3w504 Maybe Elecraft removed the link. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/How-Long-will-it-take-to-assemble-a-K3-100-tp7142563p7150987.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
It would be a very nice if Elecraft can do a youtube video with K3 assambly instructions and/or some video abt their production facility. It would really be very helpfull 73 VE3GNO Daniel K3 SN 6027 From: ve3dvy To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:56:52 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100?? There was a YouTube video still linked on the Elecraft site that showed that it took 7 minutes Ha Ha but its has sadly been removed by its owner. id say Under 10 hours if you have only basic skills in assembly. One great thing is that the manual seems to be very good and is created for the experienced and inexperienced all the way. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/How-Long-will-it-take-to-assemble-a-K3-100-tp7142563p7150927.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
There was a YouTube video still linked on the Elecraft site that showed that it took 7 minutes Ha Habut its has sadly been removed by its owner. id say Under 10 hours if you have only basic skills in assembly. One great thing is that the manual seems to be very good and is created for the experienced and inexperienced all the way. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/How-Long-will-it-take-to-assemble-a-K3-100-tp7142563p7150927.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
It largely depends on your skill level and organization skills. I had mine up and running in under five hours with regard to actual assembly and calibration time. Parts inventory, layout and reading the assembly manual took an additional two hours. So, eight hours is a reasonable estimate for the average to advanced kit builder. Of course, fully enjoying the product will take the rest of our lives. :-) 73 - John - N6VCW From: Phil Hystad To: redtar...@nycap.rr.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100?? It took me 8 hours and I did not rush. I think the average is about 8 hours. I found it fairly easy although I forgot to put in one screw and had to take the front panel board thing off and do it again. But, that only cost me about 15 minutes. 73, phil, K7PEH K3 Serial #3799 On Jan 1, 2012, at 1:00 PM, redtar...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > Greetings everyone. I ordered a K3/100 in kit form last week. I should have > it this week. Just wondering how long it should take to assemble it?? Guess > this is very different from my Heathkit days.. > > Thanks in advance and a very Happy & Healthy New year to all on the list.. > > 73 Steve/k2we Saratoga Springs, NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
The power screwdrivers we use in the factory are high performance commercial units that have a finely adjustable torque clutch that limits how far each screw is tightened. This insures both a consistent assembly of the radio and that the screws are never overtightened. We set it at a very low setting that is in fact lower than what most average people would manually tighten screws to. This actually is more reliable than manually tightening each screw. We carefully check this and also inspect assembled units for over-tightened screws. Most, if not all, consumer level power screwdrivers can not be set for this low of a tightening torque, if they can be set at all. 73, Eric www.elecraft.com _..._ On Jan 1, 2012, at 7:56 PM, "Ron D'Eau Claire" wrote: > 4-40 screws are really quite easy to twist in half with a power screwdriver. > That's easy to fix if you have a spare. It's also easy to rip the threads > out of the PEM nuts. That's not so easy to fix. > > That's why Wayne was clear that we should specify *no* power screwdriver in > the assembly manual. > > It sounds like the factory is pushing the envelope on the torque, at least > on some of the screws. > > This doesn't appear to relate to your situation, but for those "reading the > mail" out there, sometimes a panel screw will act stuck even though you know > you didn't over-torque it at assembly. That's because the panels shift > slightly as the screws are tightened, and one screw might bind against the > hole. If one feels stuck, always loosen all the other screws holding the > panel first and very often you'll find that the "stuck" screw comes out very > easily. > > Ron AC7AC > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike K2MK > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 5:11 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100?? > > Hi Dick, > > As an owner of a 3 year old factory built K3 I kind of knew that they used > "power screwdrivers" in the assembly. One day I plan to perform surgery on > the one remaining front panel screw that I was unable to remove. Doing the > DSP board swap was an adventure. > > 73, > Mike K2MK > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
Steve, Took me two days, probably 10hrs or so in total. Be sure to check all errata for every building manual. 73 Arie PA3A Op 1-1-2012 22:00, redtar...@nycap.rr.com schreef: > Greetings everyone. I ordered a K3/100 in kit form last week. I should have > it this week. Just wondering how long it should take to assemble it?? > > 73 Steve/k2we Saratoga Springs, NY > _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
Got mine last January. It took me 2 football playoff games plus about 1 hour. Works great. I now have a P3 and KPA500. A lot less time for them. Happy new year 73 Joe K2UF No trees were harmed in the sending of this e-mail; however, many electrons were inconvenienced. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Pierfrancesco Caci Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:38 AM To: redtar...@nycap.rr.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100?? >>>>>writes: > Greetings everyone. I ordered a K3/100 in kit form last week. I should have it this week. Just wondering how long it should take to assemble it?? Guess this is very different from my Heathkit days.. Took me some 15 hours, but I had to account for cat and kid interruptions :-) -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
>writes: > Greetings everyone. I ordered a K3/100 in kit form last week. I should have it this week. Just wondering how long it should take to assemble it?? Guess this is very different from my Heathkit days.. Took me some 15 hours, but I had to account for cat and kid interruptions :-) -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
4-40 screws are really quite easy to twist in half with a power screwdriver. That's easy to fix if you have a spare. It's also easy to rip the threads out of the PEM nuts. That's not so easy to fix. That's why Wayne was clear that we should specify *no* power screwdriver in the assembly manual. It sounds like the factory is pushing the envelope on the torque, at least on some of the screws. This doesn't appear to relate to your situation, but for those "reading the mail" out there, sometimes a panel screw will act stuck even though you know you didn't over-torque it at assembly. That's because the panels shift slightly as the screws are tightened, and one screw might bind against the hole. If one feels stuck, always loosen all the other screws holding the panel first and very often you'll find that the "stuck" screw comes out very easily. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike K2MK Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 5:11 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100?? Hi Dick, As an owner of a 3 year old factory built K3 I kind of knew that they used "power screwdrivers" in the assembly. One day I plan to perform surgery on the one remaining front panel screw that I was unable to remove. Doing the DSP board swap was an adventure. 73, Mike K2MK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
Hi Dick, As an owner of a 3 year old factory built K3 I kind of knew that they used "power screwdrivers" in the assembly. One day I plan to perform surgery on the one remaining front panel screw that I was unable to remove. Doing the DSP board swap was an adventure. 73, Mike K2MK Dick Dievendorff wrote > > I have assembled two, and I'd allocate about 8 hours in no fewer than two > sessions. inventory the small fasteners into some sort of containers and > watch out for minor screw size differences and use the one described in > the assembly instructions rather than the one just like the previous > screw. The instructions are excellent and complete. Pay attention to > details. > > I sat next to Cody Adams at the Watsonville factory and watched him build > a factory assembled unit. He does it a LOT quicker, with no compromises in > build quality. He has all the small fasteners in trays, power screwdriver > set for the right torque, and is really set up for mass production. > > Dick, K6KR > -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/How-Long-will-it-take-to-assemble-a-K3-100-tp7142563p7142846.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
I have assembled two, and I'd allocate about 8 hours in no fewer than two sessions. inventory the small fasteners into some sort of containers and watch out for minor screw size differences and use the one described in the assembly instructions rather than the one just like the previous screw. The instructions are excellent and complete. Pay attention to details. I sat next to Cody Adams at the Watsonville factory and watched him build a factory assembled unit. He does it a LOT quicker, with no compromises in build quality. He has all the small fasteners in trays, power screwdriver set for the right torque, and is really set up for mass production. Dick, K6KR On Jan 1, 2012, at 13:04, Phil Hystad wrote: > It took me 8 hours and I did not rush. I think the average is about 8 hours. > > I found it fairly easy although I forgot to put in one screw and had to take > the front panel board thing off and do it again. But, that only cost me > about 15 minutes. > > 73, phil, K7PEH > K3 Serial #3799 > > > On Jan 1, 2012, at 1:00 PM, redtar...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > >> Greetings everyone. I ordered a K3/100 in kit form last week. I should have >> it this week. Just wondering how long it should take to assemble it?? Guess >> this is very different from my Heathkit days.. >> >> Thanks in advance and a very Happy & Healthy New year to all on the list.. >> >> 73 Steve/k2we Saratoga Springs, NY >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
8 hours seems to be the consensus! Just be sure to sort all the parts before you start...there are a lot of them! Did mine with another ham over two weekends, and it was just over the 8 hours! But we didn't hurry -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/How-Long-will-it-take-to-assemble-a-K3-100-tp7142563p7142719.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] How Long will it take to assemble a K3/100??
It took me 8 hours and I did not rush. I think the average is about 8 hours. I found it fairly easy although I forgot to put in one screw and had to take the front panel board thing off and do it again. But, that only cost me about 15 minutes. 73, phil, K7PEH K3 Serial #3799 On Jan 1, 2012, at 1:00 PM, redtar...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > Greetings everyone. I ordered a K3/100 in kit form last week. I should have > it this week. Just wondering how long it should take to assemble it?? Guess > this is very different from my Heathkit days.. > > Thanks in advance and a very Happy & Healthy New year to all on the list.. > > 73 Steve/k2we Saratoga Springs, NY > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html