Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line in not working.
Jim, If you have been using SSB for FT8 what are you using for a sound card? I don't think you can use the internal sound card for data modes when in SSB. Mark, WB9CIF -Original Message- From: Jim Cary Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 00:07 To: Mark Musick Cc: Dave New, N8SBE ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line in not working. Dave, I have been using my K3S in USB mode for FT8 for many years and never had a problem. JIM > On Apr 16, 2023, at 4:23 PM, Mark Musick wrote: > > Jim and Dave, > My K3S when in DATA mode, the MIC+LIN says "not APPL". > Jim you must not be in DATA mode. You have to be in DATA mode to use the > internal sound card for FT8. > I got my K4D a year ago so it has been a while since I worried about such > things. > > 73, > Mark, WB9CIF > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of Dave New, N8SBE > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 20:12 > To: Jim Cary > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line in not working. > > Jim, > > I have MIC+LIN set to off, I think so that the K3s doesn't pick up room noise > when using data modes. > Also, the mic level control on the front panel affects the line in level when > you are in data a mode. In other modes, it is a mic level, instead. > > Hope that helps, > -- Dave, N8SBE > > On 2023-04-16 14:33, Jim Cary wrote: >> I Just received my K3S back from being serviced, but it doesn't >> appear that the Line In is functioning. >> >> On FT8 I have the MIC+LIN set to ON, and MIC SEL to FPL.BIAS - same >> settings as I have been using on my back-up K3. I am using the same >> cabling between PC and both rigs, so there is no issue with any of >> them. >> >> I've checked and double checked the Menu and Config settings between >> the two radios and they are identical. >> >> Anyone have any idea of what I might be missing before I contact >> Elecraft? >> >> Jim >> W2SM >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: >> http://mailma/ >> n.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26dd >> f >> ab4797d1f308db3eb70e3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6 >> 3 >> 8172728156299308%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoi >> V >> 2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=i2xj2fkNJ >> f >> HY98oqWyw%2FDVunljyV4kLFCm%2FI7kMSKj0%3D=0 >> Help: >> http://mailma/ >> n.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htm=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70 >> e >> 3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7C >> U >> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1h >> a >> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=eS53FUoeiLqq%2BjXAh%2FADtXsq% >> 2 >> F3%2FNsVDvZ0WQQwkDh1U%3D=0 >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: >> http://www.q/ >> s%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C26d37862cf5c470129c808db3ed7b9bd%7C84df9e7fe9f >> 640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172868468311138%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG >> Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0 >> %3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=cWsgvg%2BUiWitkbpvmnysH80PSQZt9faHhSBpZjuzn >> xs%3D=0 >> l.net%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70e3f%7C84df9e7 >> f >> e9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7CUnknown%7CTWF >> p >> bGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6M >> n >> 0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=X7TYOlbgi1%2Bbe2X5EVkS8axQdHdjsVW5lm3DC8YL >> g >> Eo%3D=0 Please help support this email list: >> http://www.q/ >> s%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C26d37862cf5c470129c808db3ed7b9bd%7C84df9e7fe9f >> 640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172868468311138%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG >> Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0 >> %3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=cWsgvg%2BUiWitkbpvmnysH80PSQZt9faHhSBpZjuzn >> xs%3D=0 >> l.net%2Fdonate.html=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70e3 >> f >> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7CUn >> k >> nown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haW >> w >> iLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=iJDjOGgXPvlTDjq33VAzwJVqcm2p5Nb >> % >> 2BVrJ8RHEjTu4%3D=0 >> Message delivered to n8...@densbe.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: > http://mailma/ > n.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft=05%7C01%7C%7C26d37862cf > 5c470129c808db3ed7b9bd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line in not working.
Jim, Not a good idea, because any TX EQ, Compression, etc. will effect your FT8 transmit audio. Using DATA A will shut off all that automatically for audio data modes, making your signal much cleaner. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE On 2023-04-16 20:07, Jim Cary wrote: Dave, I have been using my K3S in USB mode for FT8 for many years and never had a problem. JIM On Apr 16, 2023, at 4:23 PM, Mark Musick wrote: Jim and Dave, My K3S when in DATA mode, the MIC+LIN says "not APPL". Jim you must not be in DATA mode. You have to be in DATA mode to use the internal sound card for FT8. I got my K4D a year ago so it has been a while since I worried about such things. 73, Mark, WB9CIF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Dave New, N8SBE Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 20:12 To: Jim Cary Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line in not working. Jim, I have MIC+LIN set to off, I think so that the K3s doesn't pick up room noise when using data modes. Also, the mic level control on the front panel affects the line in level when you are in data a mode. In other modes, it is a mic level, instead. Hope that helps, -- Dave, N8SBE On 2023-04-16 14:33, Jim Cary wrote: I Just received my K3S back from being serviced, but it doesn't appear that the Line In is functioning. On FT8 I have the MIC+LIN set to ON, and MIC SEL to FPL.BIAS - same settings as I have been using on my back-up K3. I am using the same cabling between PC and both rigs, so there is no issue with any of them. I've checked and double checked the Menu and Config settings between the two radios and they are identical. Anyone have any idea of what I might be missing before I contact Elecraft? Jim W2SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailma/ n.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddf ab4797d1f308db3eb70e3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63 8172728156299308%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV 2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=i2xj2fkNJf HY98oqWyw%2FDVunljyV4kLFCm%2FI7kMSKj0%3D=0 Help: http://mailma/ n.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htm=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70e 3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7CU nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=eS53FUoeiLqq%2BjXAh%2FADtXsq%2 F3%2FNsVDvZ0WQQwkDh1U%3D=0 Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qs/ l.net%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70e3f%7C84df9e7f e9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7CUnknown%7CTWFp bGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn 0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=X7TYOlbgi1%2Bbe2X5EVkS8axQdHdjsVW5lm3DC8YLg Eo%3D=0 Please help support this email list: http://www.qs/ l.net%2Fdonate.html=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70e3f %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7CUnk nown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw iLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=iJDjOGgXPvlTDjq33VAzwJVqcm2p5Nb% 2BVrJ8RHEjTu4%3D=0 Message delivered to n8...@densbe.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to markmus...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line in not working.
Dave, I have been using my K3S in USB mode for FT8 for many years and never had a problem. JIM > On Apr 16, 2023, at 4:23 PM, Mark Musick wrote: > > Jim and Dave, > My K3S when in DATA mode, the MIC+LIN says "not APPL". > Jim you must not be in DATA mode. You have to be in DATA mode to use the > internal sound card for FT8. > I got my K4D a year ago so it has been a while since I worried about such > things. > > 73, > Mark, WB9CIF > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On > Behalf Of Dave New, N8SBE > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 20:12 > To: Jim Cary > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line in not working. > > Jim, > > I have MIC+LIN set to off, I think so that the K3s doesn't pick up room noise > when using data modes. > Also, the mic level control on the front panel affects the line in level when > you are in data a mode. In other modes, it is a mic level, instead. > > Hope that helps, > -- Dave, N8SBE > > On 2023-04-16 14:33, Jim Cary wrote: >> I Just received my K3S back from being serviced, but it doesn't appear >> that the Line In is functioning. >> >> On FT8 I have the MIC+LIN set to ON, and MIC SEL to FPL.BIAS - same >> settings as I have been using on my back-up K3. I am using the same >> cabling between PC and both rigs, so there is no issue with any of >> them. >> >> I've checked and double checked the Menu and Config settings between >> the two radios and they are identical. >> >> Anyone have any idea of what I might be missing before I contact >> Elecraft? >> >> Jim >> W2SM >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: >> http://mailma/ >> n.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddf >> ab4797d1f308db3eb70e3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63 >> 8172728156299308%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV >> 2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=i2xj2fkNJf >> HY98oqWyw%2FDVunljyV4kLFCm%2FI7kMSKj0%3D=0 >> Help: >> http://mailma/ >> n.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htm=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70e >> 3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7CU >> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha >> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=eS53FUoeiLqq%2BjXAh%2FADtXsq%2 >> F3%2FNsVDvZ0WQQwkDh1U%3D=0 >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: >> http://www.qs/ >> l.net%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70e3f%7C84df9e7f >> e9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7CUnknown%7CTWFp >> bGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn >> 0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=X7TYOlbgi1%2Bbe2X5EVkS8axQdHdjsVW5lm3DC8YLg >> Eo%3D=0 Please help support this email list: >> http://www.qs/ >> l.net%2Fdonate.html=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70e3f >> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7CUnk >> nown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw >> iLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=iJDjOGgXPvlTDjq33VAzwJVqcm2p5Nb% >> 2BVrJ8RHEjTu4%3D=0 >> Message delivered to n8...@densbe.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to markmus...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line in not working.
A potential explanation: the LINE IN level may have defaulted to zero. The LINE IN level is adjusted using the MIC gain control, but only when MIC SEL is set to LINE. So, you need to set MIC SEL to LINE (which turns MIC+LIN off), adjust the MIC gain control to give the desired non-zero LINE IN level reading, then if you really want to use MIC+LIN on, set MIC SEL back to your chosen mic setting and set MIC+LIN to ON. For FT8, it would make more sense to set MIC+LIN to OFF and MIC SEL to LINE. The MIC SEL and MIC+LIN settings are remembered separately in SSB and DATA modes, so by using DATA A mode for FT8 you can avoid the need to change settings back and forth as you change operating modes. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line in not working.
Jim and Dave, My K3S when in DATA mode, the MIC+LIN says "not APPL". Jim you must not be in DATA mode. You have to be in DATA mode to use the internal sound card for FT8. I got my K4D a year ago so it has been a while since I worried about such things. 73, Mark, WB9CIF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Dave New, N8SBE Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 20:12 To: Jim Cary Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line in not working. Jim, I have MIC+LIN set to off, I think so that the K3s doesn't pick up room noise when using data modes. Also, the mic level control on the front panel affects the line in level when you are in data a mode. In other modes, it is a mic level, instead. Hope that helps, -- Dave, N8SBE On 2023-04-16 14:33, Jim Cary wrote: > I Just received my K3S back from being serviced, but it doesn't appear > that the Line In is functioning. > > On FT8 I have the MIC+LIN set to ON, and MIC SEL to FPL.BIAS - same > settings as I have been using on my back-up K3. I am using the same > cabling between PC and both rigs, so there is no issue with any of > them. > > I've checked and double checked the Menu and Config settings between > the two radios and they are identical. > > Anyone have any idea of what I might be missing before I contact > Elecraft? > > Jim > W2SM > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: > http://mailma/ > n.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddf > ab4797d1f308db3eb70e3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63 > 8172728156299308%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV > 2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=i2xj2fkNJf > HY98oqWyw%2FDVunljyV4kLFCm%2FI7kMSKj0%3D=0 > Help: > http://mailma/ > n.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htm=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70e > 3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7CU > nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha > WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=eS53FUoeiLqq%2BjXAh%2FADtXsq%2 > F3%2FNsVDvZ0WQQwkDh1U%3D=0 > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: > http://www.qs/ > l.net%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70e3f%7C84df9e7f > e9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7CUnknown%7CTWFp > bGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn > 0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=X7TYOlbgi1%2Bbe2X5EVkS8axQdHdjsVW5lm3DC8YLg > Eo%3D=0 Please help support this email list: > http://www.qs/ > l.net%2Fdonate.html=05%7C01%7C%7C4965f26ddfab4797d1f308db3eb70e3f > %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638172728156299308%7CUnk > nown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw > iLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=iJDjOGgXPvlTDjq33VAzwJVqcm2p5Nb% > 2BVrJ8RHEjTu4%3D=0 > Message delivered to n8...@densbe.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to markmus...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Line in not working.
Jim, I have MIC+LIN set to off, I think so that the K3s doesn't pick up room noise when using data modes. Also, the mic level control on the front panel affects the line in level when you are in data a mode. In other modes, it is a mic level, instead. Hope that helps, -- Dave, N8SBE On 2023-04-16 14:33, Jim Cary wrote: I Just received my K3S back from being serviced, but it doesn’t appear that the Line In is functioning. On FT8 I have the MIC+LIN set to ON, and MIC SEL to FPL.BIAS — same settings as I have been using on my back-up K3. I am using the same cabling between PC and both rigs, so there is no issue with any of them. I’ve checked and double checked the Menu and Config settings between the two radios and they are identical. Anyone have any idea of what I might be missing before I contact Elecraft? Jim W2SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n8...@densbe.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
