Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Display LEDs
Milli is used as a prefix for terms to indicate 10 to the minus 3rd, but mil is used as a separate word to indicate 10 to the 3rd. It is even more. This is what happens when we mix Latin with english, and modern metric with old english measurements. NOW - it is what it is! Mil/Mille means 1000. the rest is just convention. We humans have sure messed up the pure Adamic language, in multiple variations. In keeping with the recent Christmas Spirit - Actually God messed up the languages at the tower of Babel. But that is a different Forum haha... 73/Phillip/N8AYE -. ---.. .- -.-- . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Display LEDs
In th UK, once the home of imperial hi, 0.001 of an inch is refered to as a thou (pronounced thowe) meaning thousanth of an inch The 50 mil had me scratching my head? (5cm) Regards Darren g0ott __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Display LEDs
In my life-time career as a Toolmaker/Mfg Eng., a millionth or a mil was a thousandth (.001) divided by 10 or: .001/10 = .0001 (what we called a mil or a tenth) I worked with those so called mils and sometimes even splitting them! I'm not clear what is meant by the term 50 mils. 73 Dwight NS9I On 1/3/2012 8:59 AM, darren McDonald wrote: In th UK, once the home of imperial hi, 0.001 of an inch is refered to as a thou (pronounced thowe) meaning thousanth of an inch The 50 mil had me scratching my head? (5cm) Regards Darren g0ott __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Display LEDs
Milliradians One mil at a thousand yards is one yard of deflection (azimuth) Naval gunfire support... __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Display LEDs
Boy was I confused! I just saw the topic was LEDs, glanced at Wayne's response (50 mils), and assumed he was referring to current consumption. 73 Dave KQ3T On 1/3/2012 11:52 AM, DGB wrote: In my life-time career as a Toolmaker/Mfg Eng., a millionth or a mil was a thousandth (.001) divided by 10 or: .001/10 = .0001 (what we called a mil or a tenth) I worked with those so called mils and sometimes even splitting them! I'm not clear what is meant by the term 50 mils. 73 Dwight NS9I On 1/3/2012 8:59 AM, darren McDonald wrote: In th UK, once the home of imperial hi, 0.001 of an inch is refered to as a thou (pronounced thowe) meaning thousanth of an inch The 50 mil had me scratching my head? (5cm) Regards Darren g0ott __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Display LEDs
No. About 50 mils. Wayne On Jan 2, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Phillip Nichols wrote: Are the LEDs on the face of the KX3 really going to stand out as high as they appear on the Elecraft site? I could see one getting broke quite easy being that exposed. I would hope for a lower profile on them for safety sake. 73/Phillip/N8AYE -. ---.. .- -.-- . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Display LEDs
Here a mil is ovbiously not referring to a millimetre, otherwise the LEDs are sticking up 5cm! So, I did a google search, and discovered that in the Imperial measurement system, it can also refer to one thousandth of an inch (0.0254mm). That means 50 mils = 1.27mm, which makes much more sense. You learn something every day :-) 73, Matt VK2ACL Google tells me that discovered a mil is actually an imperial measurement On 03/01/2012, at 3:21 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: No. About 50 mils. Wayne On Jan 2, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Phillip Nichols wrote: Are the LEDs on the face of the KX3 really going to stand out as high as they appear on the Elecraft site? I could see one getting broke quite easy being that exposed. I would hope for a lower profile on them for safety sake. 73/Phillip/N8AYE -. ---.. .- -.-- . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Display LEDs
Unfortunately, one has to be cautious of common technical slang in an international community. Yes, common in US machinist's talk is for a 'mil' to equal 0.001 inch. I am not certain of the origin and even though I looked it up at Wikipedia, I still don't have any answer to why 'thou' is equal to 'mil' (even though I use and understand that unit myself). 73, Don W3FPR On 1/3/2012 12:05 AM, Matt Maguire wrote: Here a mil is ovbiously not referring to a millimetre, otherwise the LEDs are sticking up 5cm! So, I did a google search, and discovered that in the Imperial measurement system, it can also refer to one thousandth of an inch (0.0254mm). That means 50 mils = 1.27mm, which makes much more sense. You learn something every day :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Display LEDs
I think this is due to the French influence on the metric system: in French, the word mille means 1000. 73, Matt VK2ACL. On 03/01/2012, at 4:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Unfortunately, one has to be cautious of common technical slang in an international community. Yes, common in US machinist's talk is for a 'mil' to equal 0.001 inch. I am not certain of the origin and even though I looked it up at Wikipedia, I still don't have any answer to why 'thou' is equal to 'mil' (even though I use and understand that unit myself). 73, Don W3FPR On 1/3/2012 12:05 AM, Matt Maguire wrote: Here a mil is ovbiously not referring to a millimetre, otherwise the LEDs are sticking up 5cm! So, I did a google search, and discovered that in the Imperial measurement system, it can also refer to one thousandth of an inch (0.0254mm). That means 50 mils = 1.27mm, which makes much more sense. You learn something every day :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Display LEDs
I think that mil is short for milli inch, which is really mixing systems. I think that power folks do even worse. Wires larger than 4/0 are given in circular mils, or cm. When I started with a power company 42 years ago, one thousand circular mils was MCM, where the M was from Roman Numerals for thousand. That was confusing, as it could also refer to Mega, so the M was changed to K for Kilo, so we had Kcmils. 73, Rick K7MW (not megawatts) On Jan 2, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Unfortunately, one has to be cautious of common technical slang in an international community. Yes, common in US machinist's talk is for a 'mil' to equal 0.001 inch. I am not certain of the origin and even though I looked it up at Wikipedia, I still don't have any answer to why 'thou' is equal to 'mil' (even though I use and understand that unit myself). 73, Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
