Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PBT on SSB

2013-03-05 Thread Lyle Johnson

Dana,

You are seeing the effect of the switch from phasing reception mode to 
Weaver reception mode.  Weaver mode is used when an aggressive SSB 
bandwidth is selected to improve opposite sideband rejection at the 
expense of some additional in-the-passband distortion.


73,

Lyle KK7P


I have been using my KX3 with digital software and seem to have some odd 
behavior using the PBT...

However, if I lower the cutoff below 2.35 kHz, there is an additional dead zone 
(no noise on the display) from 1.4 kHz to 1.6 kHz...


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PBT on SSB

2013-03-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dana,

That is a good reason to use DATA A mode instead of SSB.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/4/2013 10:46 PM, Dana Browne AD5VC wrote:

I have been using my KX3 with digital software and seem to have some odd 
behavior using the PBT.  I have it set to do upper cutoff/lower cutoff on USB 
or LSB and am watching the received display on the waterfall.  As expected, the 
upper cutoff in the noise follows the cutoff displayed on the screen, up to a 
point.

However, if I lower the cutoff below 2.35 kHz, there is an additional dead zone 
(no noise on the display) from 1.4 kHz to 1.6 kHz.   The same thing happens on 
LSU at 2.45 kHz.   This appears no matter what band I am on, so I assume it is 
something in the DSP software.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PBT on SSB

2013-03-05 Thread John Oppenheimer
Hi Dana,

The 1500 Hz hole in SSB mode is an artifact of Weaver Demodulation.
Looking at the KX3 Firmware Information document, MCU 00.77, DSP 00.74,
3-6-2012: IF the KXFL3 is installed, Weaver demodulation is enabled when
HI-CUT is below 2.4 kHz.

John KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PBT on SSB

2013-03-05 Thread Dana Browne AD5VC
I am simply taking the headphone audio output (not the I/Q output) and running 
it into Digipan or Fldigi.This radio is just the stock radio with no added 
KXFL3 filter.  I just wanted to experiment with sound card audio on the KX3 and 
used the method that has worked with other radios.

I had not heard of the other demodulation scheme before.  I guess I have some 
more reading to do.

I will try the Data A mode.  Thanks for the feedback, folks.

Dana Browne
AD5VC


--- On Tue, 3/5/13, John Oppenheimer j...@kn5l.net wrote:

 From: John Oppenheimer j...@kn5l.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PBT on SSB
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 8:21 AM
 Hi Dana,
 
 The 1500 Hz hole in SSB mode is an artifact of Weaver
 Demodulation.
 Looking at the KX3 Firmware Information document, MCU 00.77,
 DSP 00.74,
 3-6-2012: IF the KXFL3 is installed, Weaver demodulation is
 enabled when
 HI-CUT is below 2.4 kHz.
 
 John KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PBT on SSB

2013-03-04 Thread Mike WA8BXN
Hi Dana, 
 
As I understand it, the IQ output from the KX3 is before the roofing filter
 and DSP. Thus any bandwidth settings you have on the KX3 should not have
any effect on the IQ output. You did not mention what particular program you
are using on your computer. If you are exchanging data between the KX3 and
that program, I would suggest you disconnect the cable that allows that and
see what happens. It could be that the issue lies in the program and not the
KX3. 
 
73 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Dana Browne AD5VC 
Date: 3/4/2013 10:46:52 PM 
To: Elecraft Mailing List 
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PBT on SSB 
 
I have been using my KX3 with digital software and seem to have some odd
behavior using the PBT. I have it set to do upper cutoff/lower cutoff on USB
or LSB and am watching the received display on the waterfall. As expected,
the upper cutoff in the noise follows the cutoff displayed on the screen, up
to a point. 
 
However, if I lower the cutoff below 2.35 kHz, there is an additional dead
zone (no noise on the display) from 1.4 kHz to 1.6 kHz. The same thing
happens on LSU at 2.45 kHz. This appears no matter what band I am on, so I
assume it is something in the DSP software. 
 
No such dead zone appears if I raise the lower cutoff. 
 
 
I am using MCU 1.36 and DSP 1.05. 
 
Has anyone else observed this? 
Dana Browne 
AD5VC 
 
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