Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
Yes, firmware corrections and new functionality are some of the many great things Elecraft does. With the K2 you could get a new MCU chip, I don’t recall if there was one for the K1. But with the Gen 2 radios and their ability to take a MCU and/or DSP update it is over the top. I knew a few of the guys at Amateur Electronic Supply before they failed. They used to wonder why I stopped shopping there. Well YeaIcoKen didn’t give me what Elecraft could. An example would be the latest remote control of the KX2. Funky cool, and works as described. (Wayne - it needs a key sequence to take it out of remote control and restore panel operation without a power down.) Do you know of another ham radio manufacturer that can do that? I don’t either. Joe N9JR > > Those firmware upgrades can be quick. On 20 Nov 2017 G4SJP reported a > problem with KX2 production firmware 2.81. By 21 Nov 2017 new production > firmware version 2.84 corrected the problem and was available for download. > Never would or could Asian ham rig makers respond that fast...if ever they > responded in the product lifetime at all. > > Asian ham rig makers seem universally to lack the intelligence to implement > iambic mode A on any of their rigs. The unfortunate owner is forced to use > the abominable mode B, or to not use iambic keying at all. Elecraft has > always allowed selection of either mode. > > Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
Gary wrote: > Considering how the other radios on the market are not upgradable, > I can not imagine any reason to ever buy one of them. As long as > there is Elecraft, I will buy the next radio that has something new > to offer. Those firmware upgrades can be quick. On 20 Nov 2017 G4SJP reported a problem with KX2 production firmware 2.81. By 21 Nov 2017 new production firmware version 2.84 corrected the problem and was available for download. Never would or could Asian ham rig makers respond that fast...if ever they responded in the product lifetime at all. Asian ham rig makers seem universally to lack the intelligence to implement iambic mode A on any of their rigs. The unfortunate owner is forced to use the abominable mode B, or to not use iambic keying at all. Elecraft has always allowed selection of either mode. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
I suspect you’re underestimating the differences between the K3S and a fully up to date K3. Either one is still the only rig I’d care to own :-) > > Yep. I bought the two K3s that remain on my operating desk today in 2008. > Upgrading to the new synth boards and new transverter board with the built-in > preamp for 12-10-6M, bringing it up to about 90% of a K3S for a small > fraction of the cost of a new rig. With any other mfr, I'd have to sell the > rig for half-price or less and buy a new one. > > Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
On 11/29/2017 2:32 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: Besides being excellent radios, one of the other real values in Elecraft products is that Elecraft leans over backwards to provide upgrade paths to owners of earlier versions. The K3 to K3S upgrade path is a good example as is the history of the K2. Yep. I bought the two K3s that remain on my operating desk today in 2008. Upgrading to the new synth boards and new transverter board with the built-in preamp for 12-10-6M, bringing it up to about 90% of a K3S for a small fraction of the cost of a new rig. With any other mfr, I'd have to sell the rig for half-price or less and buy a new one. The modularity that allows us to buy only the features we need, adds features provided by new hardware designs, and provides that inexpensive upgrade path is a big plus. So are the ongoing upgrades to firmware, always free! 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
Yes. I built my K3 kit in 09 and sold it to a friend who wanted another K3 to match his other two K3's. I wanted a K3s so applied that sale to buying the K3s, moved over that which was worth doing (upgraded Sub RX/filters and a few other things and upgraded the rest so it's now a current K3s. Add to that that I then bought a very early K3 from a nearby ham for my backup rig and I am a solid believer in Elecraft and their upgrade policy. Considering how the other radios on the market are not upgradable, I can not imagine any reason to ever buy one of them. As long as there is Elecraft, I will buy the next radio that has something new to offer. As someone sent to me not long ago... Why not buy it now, while you can, you're going to be a SK for a very long time... Ya know, at my age, that makes all the sense in the world to me... 73, Gary KA1J > That fact, among others, prompted me to buy the K3S that is now on > my desk. > > 73 > > Bob, K4TAX > > > On 11/29/2017 4:32 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > Besides being excellent radios, one of the other real values in > > Elecraft products is that Elecraft leans over backwards to provide > > upgrade paths to owners of earlier versions. The K3 to K3S upgrade > > path is a good example as is the history of the K2. > > > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > > > On 11/29/17 at 6:38 AM, rmcg...@blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX) > > wrote: > > > >> The Elecraft products have been solid for years. That speaks well > >> of the company and their values. Although no longer producing ham > >> products, another US company followed the same practice. I have > >> several of their radios as well. Besides, I purchase performance > >> radios to keep and use every day, not what's popular in the > >> marketplace. > > > > > > --- > > > > Bill Frantz |"We used to quip that "password" is the > > most common 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's > > 'password1.' Who said users haven't www.pwpconsult.com | learned > > anything about security?" -- Bruce Schneier > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to g...@ka1j.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
That fact, among others, prompted me to buy the K3S that is now on my desk. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 11/29/2017 4:32 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: Besides being excellent radios, one of the other real values in Elecraft products is that Elecraft leans over backwards to provide upgrade paths to owners of earlier versions. The K3 to K3S upgrade path is a good example as is the history of the K2. 73 Bill AE6JV On 11/29/17 at 6:38 AM, rmcg...@blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX) wrote: The Elecraft products have been solid for years. That speaks well of the company and their values. Although no longer producing ham products, another US company followed the same practice. I have several of their radios as well. Besides, I purchase performance radios to keep and use every day, not what's popular in the marketplace. --- Bill Frantz |"We used to quip that "password" is the most common 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said users haven't www.pwpconsult.com | learned anything about security?" -- Bruce Schneier __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
Besides being excellent radios, one of the other real values in Elecraft products is that Elecraft leans over backwards to provide upgrade paths to owners of earlier versions. The K3 to K3S upgrade path is a good example as is the history of the K2. 73 Bill AE6JV On 11/29/17 at 6:38 AM, rmcg...@blomand.net (Bob McGraw K4TAX) wrote: The Elecraft products have been solid for years. That speaks well of the company and their values. Although no longer producing ham products, another US company followed the same practice. I have several of their radios as well. Besides, I purchase performance radios to keep and use every day, not what's popular in the marketplace. --- Bill Frantz|"We used to quip that "password" is the most common 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said users haven't www.pwpconsult.com | learned anything about security?" -- Bruce Schneier __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
I think Ham radios from everyone follow more of the Elecraft business model. The IC718 was introduced in 2000 or earlier and it is still sold. I think the 7300 is wildly successful (not trying to start a flamewar, but it is the best selling rig at many dealers) and they likely have economies of scale, parts get cheaper as you buy more, and they push the price down after the early adopters have bought, to better compete and drive out the competition. The Elecraft radios do serve somewhat of a different market, but you can't ignore that Direct Conversion SDR radios are up and coming. 73, Mark W7MLG On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Josh wrote: > Considering most products are available for more than a few months, they > must all have HUGE warehouses... > > 73 > Josh W6XU > > Sent from my mobile device > > > On Nov 29, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > wrote: > > > > Most Japanese companies design a product (radio, computer, whatever) and > do one production run. > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to marklgoldb...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
Considering most products are available for more than a few months, they must all have HUGE warehouses... 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On Nov 29, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > wrote: > > Most Japanese companies design a product (radio, computer, whatever) and do > one production run. > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
Most Japanese companies design a product (radio, computer, whatever) and do one production run. Then they reset the production line and make something else. If the product was wildly popular, they might reset the line and do a second run, but most likely there will be at least some redesign, or it could be a new model entirely. I would imagine that Elecraft keeps a steady production rate depending in inventory and demand. Totally different business model. 73 -- Lynn On 11/29/2017 6:38 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: This is one reason that I won't buy a JA brand radio. Seems that all of the companies have a "new radio of the month" introduction, thus deflating the value of the brands/models that hams bought in the past few months. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
Yes, perhaps in some venues, but looking at very recent eBay “sold” items for this unit, that is not necessarily the case. I’ll put it up on eBay anyway, with my usual 99 cent starting price and see what happens. Always has worked in the past, even with big-dollar auction items like this. No guts, no glory. Thread closed! :-) W6JHB > On Nov 29, 2017, at 4:36 AM: > > I think he'd better knock off another couple hundred if he's serious about > selling. > > They're under $900 "pre-owned" these days. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Bennett > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 12:12 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend > > Seems like the retail outlets have been dropping their prices - we had set > hat price based on what this unit had been selling for on eBay. However, > “after further review...” how about if we go with $1,070 - free > shipping __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
This is one reason that I won't buy a JA brand radio. Seems that all of the companies have a "new radio of the month" introduction, thus deflating the value of the brands/models that hams bought in the past few months. Hams in general a cheap, buy today and loose money on the deal next week because the same brand/model can now be obtained for less money. The Elecraft products have been solid for years. That speaks well of the company and their values. Although no longer producing ham products, another US company followed the same practice. I have several of their radios as well. Besides, I purchase performance radios to keep and use every day, not what's popular in the marketplace. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 11/29/2017 6:31 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: Sounds like an End-of-Life special. On 11/29/2017 5:02 AM, Bill wrote: Gigaparts (maybe others also matching) had them for $999 over the weekend - shipped. A discount like that makes me wonder what is going on. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
I think he'd better knock off another couple hundred if he's serious about selling. They're under $900 "pre-owned" these days. 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Bennett Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 12:12 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend Seems like the retail outlets have been dropping their prices - we had set hat price based on what this unit had been selling for on eBay. However, “after further review...” how about if we go with $1,070 - free shipping Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA > On Nov 28, 2017, at 9:04 PM, Steve Sergeant wrote: > > Jim: > > I could almost be tempted if HRO wasn't selling them for $1,150 right > now, with free shipping. > > [ https://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=71-002065 ] > > > >> On 11/28/17 20:40 PM, James Bennett wrote: >> A buddy of mine recently bought himself a K3 and is ready to unload his >> IC-7300. He has asked me to put it up for sale for him on eBay. I’ve been >> selling there for 12 years with a feedback of close to 6000. However, I >> thought I’d see if anyone here wants it before I post it there. Perfect >> condition, works great, looks absolutely brand new, in original factory box, >> with third party programming software. $1,200 / free shipping CONUS only. >> Contact me off list if you are interested. >> >> Jim Bennett / w6...@arrl.net >> Folsom, CA >> >> 916-337-4416 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
Sounds like an End-of-Life special. On 11/29/2017 5:02 AM, Bill wrote: Gigaparts (maybe others also matching) had them for $999 over the weekend - shipped. A discount like that makes me wonder what is going on. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
Gigaparts (maybe others also matching) had them for $999 over the weekend - shipped. A discount like that makes me wonder what is going on. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Selling IC-7300 For Friend
Seems like the retail outlets have been dropping their prices - we had set hat price based on what this unit had been selling for on eBay. However, “after further review...” how about if we go with $1,070 - free shipping Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA > On Nov 28, 2017, at 9:04 PM, Steve Sergeant wrote: > > Jim: > > I could almost be tempted if HRO wasn't selling them for $1,150 right > now, with free shipping. > > [ https://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=71-002065 ] > > > >> On 11/28/17 20:40 PM, James Bennett wrote: >> A buddy of mine recently bought himself a K3 and is ready to unload his >> IC-7300. He has asked me to put it up for sale for him on eBay. I’ve been >> selling there for 12 years with a feedback of close to 6000. However, I >> thought I’d see if anyone here wants it before I post it there. Perfect >> condition, works great, looks absolutely brand new, in original factory box, >> with third party programming software. $1,200 / free shipping CONUS only. >> Contact me off list if you are interested. >> >> Jim Bennett / w6...@arrl.net >> Folsom, CA >> >> 916-337-4416 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
