Re: [Elecraft] OT- HF pactor

2009-11-18 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> Pactor is mostly run via SCS modems which are the only modems 
> to cater for the higher speed Pactor II and III modes. 

Pactor II and III are proprietary protocols available only with 
one product.  Their sole use appears to be for quasi-commercial 
operations designed to avoid the tariffs for satellite based 
data communications options.  

There is no benefit to Pactor II and III for normal AMATEUR 
operations and they are major QRM generators often destroying 
more than 3 KHz at a time.  I have often observed Pactor II 
and Pactor III wipe out the entire 14070-14072 "PSK band" or 
the entire "digital" area on 17 Meters due transmitting without 
regard for existing users.  

Pactor II and III and their operators are a scourge on amateur 
radio. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
  


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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT- HF pactor
> 
> 
> Hello Johnny, Pactor is mostly run via SCS modems which are 
> the only modems to cater for the higher speed Pactor II and 
> III modes. There are older modems using Pactor 1, but the 
> main advantage is Pactor only comes from using PII or PIII 
> modes which are highly resistant to QRM, even deliberate 
> attempts at jamming are often unsuccessful against it. I 
> often work a station in Hamburg (around 440 miles away) who 
> runs 5 Watts to a mobile whip antenna on 80m and we are able 
> to communicate fairly easily on any evening.
> 
> For more information on emergency comms via Pactor see: 
> http://www.winlink.org/ And for details of SCS modems see: 
> http://www.scs-ptc.com/
> 
> A K3 works quite well on Pactor, including PIII
> 
> 73 Dave, G4AON
> K3/100 #80
> ===
> Hello Group,
> 
> I would like to learn more about HF digital mode 
> communication e.g. pactor.  and the application digital mode 
> in emergency communciation.
> 
> Could any of you direct me to the right website or information source?
> 
> 73
> 
> Johnny VR2XMC 



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Re: [Elecraft] OT- HF pactor

2009-11-18 Thread Dave G4AON
Hello Johnny, Pactor is mostly run via SCS modems which are the only
modems to cater for the higher speed Pactor II and III modes. There are
older modems using Pactor 1, but the main advantage is Pactor only comes
from using PII or PIII modes which are highly resistant to QRM, even
deliberate attempts at jamming are often unsuccessful against it. I
often work a station in Hamburg (around 440 miles away) who runs 5 Watts
to a mobile whip antenna on 80m and we are able to communicate fairly
easily on any evening.

For more information on emergency comms via Pactor see:
http://www.winlink.org/
And for details of SCS modems see: http://www.scs-ptc.com/

A K3 works quite well on Pactor, including PIII

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
===
Hello Group,

I would like to learn more about HF digital mode communication e.g.
pactor.  and the application digital mode in emergency communciation.

Could any of you direct me to the right website or information source?

73

Johnny VR2XMC
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Re: [Elecraft] OT- HF pactor

2009-11-18 Thread Jim Campbell
Let's not forget Winlink 2000.

Jim - W4BQP

Lyle Johnson wrote:
>>> I would like to learn more about HF digital mode communication e.g.
>>> pactor.  and the application digital mode in emergency communciation.
>>>   
>
> In addition to Pactor and Winmor, there is NBEMS.
>
> < URL:http://www.w1hkj.com/NBEMS/ >
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] OT- HF pactor

2009-11-18 Thread Lyle Johnson
>> I would like to learn more about HF digital mode communication e.g.
>> pactor.  and the application digital mode in emergency communciation.

In addition to Pactor and Winmor, there is NBEMS.

< URL:http://www.w1hkj.com/NBEMS/ >

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] OT- HF pactor

2009-11-18 Thread PA3CW

Hi Johnny,

Check the Winmor protocol which is being developed and tested just for this
purpose. If you google you will for sure find the info.
Dick PA3CW


Johnny Siu wrote:
> 
> Hello Group,
> 
> I would like to learn more about HF digital mode communication e.g.
> pactor.  and the application digital mode in emergency communciation.
> 
> Could any of you direct me to the right website or information source?
> 
> 73
> 
> Johnny VR2XMC
> 
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