Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Eric Swartz]

Folks - This thread was closed yesterday due to its high OT volume.  Please
respect this closure.

73,
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On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 5:48 AM W3FLH  wrote:

>
> Joe and the group,
> A company I used to do business with had a nickname for JIT supplying.
> SOL. They actually had it printed on a card JIT=SOL.
>
> 73
> Darrell AB2E
>
>
>
> To chime in on "JIT" philosophy - we have a name for it, too:  Just Isn't
> There.
>
> It leaves no "wiggle-room" if there are any changes in production - you're
> dead in the water.
>
> Tony W3FLH
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[SteveL]

Great laugh out of this, thank you!  
And so true…  JIT depends on so many things working, which are not now for 
myriads of reasons.

I could barely wrap my brain around 20,000 containers on a single boat, wedged 
across the Suez no less - and blocking how many more?!  In some ways it reveals 
how strategic some mundane things are - like shipping containers or a boat - in 
the economy of the world.  Kind of scary, really.

It highlights both the magic and the simplicity of HF radio we use:  a K1 or 
KX1 or Tuna Tin II..., a battery, a switch, and a wire in a local tree and 
we’re on the air around the world.  To hear a signal reach me directly from 
half way around the world is truly magic.

Steve
aa8af

> On Apr 30, 2021, at 8:59 AM, Louandzip via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> We called it the OSWO method of inventory control.  "Oh S*** We're Out"
> W7HV
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Louandzip via Elecraft]

 We called it the OSWO method of inventory control.  "Oh S*** We're Out"
W7HV

On Friday, April 30, 2021, 6:48:13 AM MDT, W3FLH  wrote: 
 
 
 
Joe and the group,
A company I used to do business with had a nickname for JIT supplying.
SOL. They actually had it printed on a card JIT=SOL.

73
Darrell AB2E



To chime in on "JIT" philosophy - we have a name for it, too:  Just Isn't
There.

It leaves no "wiggle-room" if there are any changes in production - you're
dead in the water.

Tony W3FLH




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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[W3FLH]

Joe and the group,
A company I used to do business with had a nickname for JIT supplying.
SOL. They actually had it printed on a card JIT=SOL.

73
Darrell AB2E



To chime in on "JIT" philosophy - we have a name for it, too:  Just Isn't
There.

It leaves no "wiggle-room" if there are any changes in production - you're
dead in the water.

Tony W3FLH




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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Christopher Hoover]

This has been a problem on and off for at least five years.

It is somewhat worse now than it has been recently, but it is more of the
same.

I had to design out the uC on Google Glass Enterprise Edition 2 (EE2) in
2018 the week before we were supposed to gerber out for our proto build.
 I found 1000 pieces of a suitable alternative *in stock* at Digikey that I
immediately bought on  my credit card that would carry us through proto and
EVT, and our GSM  simultaneously secured an allocation from the supplier
for what we needed production.

73 de Ai6KG
-- Christopher.



On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:

> An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of chips...
>
>
> https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/
>
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Paul GACEK via Elecraft]

Staring out at the LA seashore, I see scads of ships waiting to offload in 
numbers I’ve never seen before. Whatever the legitimate reason for that 
bottleneck, it must compound the delay of possibly scarce items including 
commodity ICs.

I think we only have one silicon foundry  stateside in AZ and I think run by 
Intel. A stunning amount of critical chips are made in Taiwan which seems to be 
the object of desire for a neighbor to its right.

While government involvement through policy or incentives is a spirited topic 
to discuss, I think the EU has invested a lot more money in trying to have more 
foundries than we have. Leaving things to market forces has unintended 
consequences.

I can now finally justify my unbuilt Elecraft kit collection under the guise of 
anticipating a global shortage.

Paul
W6PNG 

> On Apr 29, 2021, at 5:30 PM, Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Amazon has 50 piece NE555 for $5.39 ready to ship, two day delivery 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Welcome to the world of "just in time" inventory meets off shore
>> production.  Then couple that with a Chinese Communist Party that
>> makes sure that Chinese companies get their orders filled before
>> the rest of the world.  Then don't forget that there are not enough
>> shipping containers to accommodate all the freight demands.
>> 
>> International commerce is reaping the rewards of concentrating
>> manufacturing in China while stripping the US & Canada (and to a
>> lesser extent, Europe) of much of their manufacturing base.
>> 
>> It's not just chips but pharmaceuticals, consumer electronics and
>> even consumer staples.  The trend will only get worse if the current
>> administration has its way and increases taxes on business and capital
>> by 50%.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>>  ... Joe, W4TV
>> 
>> 
 On 2021-04-29 5:11 PM, Gary Memory wrote:
>>> It isn't just IC's.  I placed a $250-ish order from Mouser two days ago.
>>> Most of the items are common components, with a BO lead-time into
>>> September.  We live in a different world, at least temporarily if not for a
>>> long haul?
>>> Gary N7BRJ
 On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ken B via Elecraft 
 
 wrote:
 Its affecting everything - Tried to by a bunch of 555 timing chips for
 the local troops scouting project - none around, glad we don't need them
 till November.
 
On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick <
 n...@elecraft.com> wrote:
 
 Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well.
 
 Wayne
 
 
 elecraft.com
 
> On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Wayne.
> I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.
> The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors.
> Ray WA6VAB  K3
> 
> From: Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM
> To: Mark Goldberg
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of
 the world
> 
> Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in
 advance on most parts and assemblies.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg 
 wrote:
>> 
>> For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time,
 it
>> is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am
>> working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple
>> orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to
 ship
>> rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:
>> 
>>> An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of
 chips...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 73, and thanks,
>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Eric Swartz]

[TOPIC CLOSED}

Folks we are way off topic for the Elecraft list and this is also exceeding
the regular off topic limits.  Please end the thread at this time.

73,
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On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:31 PM Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Amazon has 50 piece NE555 for $5.39 ready to ship, two day delivery
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft]

Amazon has 50 piece NE555 for $5.39 ready to ship, two day delivery 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> 
> 
> Welcome to the world of "just in time" inventory meets off shore
> production.  Then couple that with a Chinese Communist Party that
> makes sure that Chinese companies get their orders filled before
> the rest of the world.  Then don't forget that there are not enough
> shipping containers to accommodate all the freight demands.
> 
> International commerce is reaping the rewards of concentrating
> manufacturing in China while stripping the US & Canada (and to a
> lesser extent, Europe) of much of their manufacturing base.
> 
> It's not just chips but pharmaceuticals, consumer electronics and
> even consumer staples.  The trend will only get worse if the current
> administration has its way and increases taxes on business and capital
> by 50%.
> 
> 73,
> 
>   ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
>> On 2021-04-29 5:11 PM, Gary Memory wrote:
>> It isn't just IC's.  I placed a $250-ish order from Mouser two days ago.
>> Most of the items are common components, with a BO lead-time into
>> September.  We live in a different world, at least temporarily if not for a
>> long haul?
>> Gary N7BRJ
>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ken B via Elecraft 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  Its affecting everything - Tried to by a bunch of 555 timing chips for
>>> the local troops scouting project - none around, glad we don't need them
>>> till November.
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick <
>>> n...@elecraft.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> elecraft.com
>>> 
 On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:
 
 
 Hi Wayne.
 I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.
 The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors.
 Ray WA6VAB  K3
 
 From: Wayne Burdick
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM
 To: Mark Goldberg
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of
>>> the world
 
 Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in
>>> advance on most parts and assemblies.
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 
 
> On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg 
>>> wrote:
> 
> For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time,
>>> it
> is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am
> working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple
> orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to
>>> ship
> rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
>> An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of
>>> chips...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/
>> 
>> --
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Wayne Burdick]

I'm staying out of the politics. But clearly it'll be a banner year for the 
hat, T-shirt, and coffee mug makers of the world. No silicon.

Wayne
N6KR 


> On Apr 29, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Bill Johnson  wrote:
> 
> So sorry, but this pandemic and all the supply issues fit nicely into an 
> economic war, not just a firearms war.  The economic war has only just begun 
> which I had guessed would happen just after the Japanese, then the S. Koreans 
> now the Chinese.  This is a cultural war destined to get the US into their 
> stronghold.  But the Japanese and Koreans are now in our arena?
> 
> I hope the chips and high tech will move back to US like the good old days.  
> Too bad for our US companies to be too slow to react, or the government taxes 
> and labor practices to remove our own manufacturing.  If we had chips here, 
> Elecraft, maybe others, perhaps could get parts?
> 
> Bill
> K9YEQ


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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Bill Johnson]

So sorry, but this pandemic and all the supply issues fit nicely into an 
economic war, not just a firearms war.  The economic war has only just begun 
which I had guessed would happen just after the Japanese, then the S. Koreans 
now the Chinese.  This is a cultural war destined to get the US into their 
stronghold.  But the Japanese and Koreans are now in our arena?

I hope the chips and high tech will move back to US like the good old days.  
Too bad for our US companies to be too slow to react, or the government taxes 
and labor practices to remove our own manufacturing.  If we had chips here, 
Elecraft, maybe others, perhaps could get parts?

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Gary Memory
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 4:12 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

It isn't just IC's.  I placed a $250-ish order from Mouser two days ago.
Most of the items are common components, with a BO lead-time into September.  
We live in a different world, at least temporarily if not for a long haul?

Gary N7BRJ


On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ken B via Elecraft 
wrote:

>  Its affecting everything - Tried to by a bunch of 555 timing chips 
> for the local troops scouting project - none around, glad we don't 
> need them till November.
>
> On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick < 
> n...@elecraft.com> wrote:
>
>  Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well.
>
> Wayne
>
> 
> elecraft.com
>
> > On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Hi Wayne.
> > I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.
> > The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors.
> > Ray WA6VAB  K3
> >
> > From: Wayne Burdick
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM
> > To: Mark Goldberg
> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users 
> > of
> the world
> >
> > Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in
> advance on most parts and assemblies.
> >
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg 
> > > 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a 
> > > time,
> it
> > > is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company 
> > > I am working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even 
> > > for simple orders from distributors of in stock parts they are 
> > > taking a week to
> ship
> > > rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:
> > >
> > >> An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of
> chips...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-ma
> cs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> 73, and thanks,
> > >> Dave (NK7Z)
> > >> https://www.nk7z.net
> > >> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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> > >> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources 
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Lou Mecseri]

Elecraft group seems to be an exception. Perhaps ther are a few others.

&3, Lou KE1F

On 4/29/2021 22:06, Lou Mecseri wrote:
JIT is a great low cost, effective system as long as it works. It did 
for a while.


But the real issue we refuse to face is to listen to Lenin who had 
been quoted "The Capitalist will sell you the rope to hang him."


And that is what happening, don't blame Communist China, No Far East 
power forced American businessman to "out source" production, only 
self imposed force applied is greed. No loyalty  to employees or to 
the best interest of the U.S. is considered in business decisions, 
only PROFIT..


73, Lou KE1F   ..-END

On 4/29/2021 21:34, AB2E Darrell wrote:

Joe and the group,
A company I used to do business with had a nickname for JIT 
supplying. SOL. They actually had it printed on a card JIT=SOL.


73
Darrell AB2E



From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 on behalf of Joe Subich, W4TV 


Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 5:27 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of 
the world



Welcome to the world of "just in time" inventory meets off shore
production.  Then couple that with a Chinese Communist Party that
makes sure that Chinese companies get their orders filled before
the rest of the world.  Then don't forget that there are not enough
shipping containers to accommodate all the freight demands.

International commerce is reaping the rewards of concentrating
manufacturing in China while stripping the US & Canada (and to a
lesser extent, Europe) of much of their manufacturing base.

It's not just chips but pharmaceuticals, consumer electronics and
even consumer staples.  The trend will only get worse if the current
administration has its way and increases taxes on business and capital
by 50%.

73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-04-29 5:11 PM, Gary Memory wrote:
It isn't just IC's.  I placed a $250-ish order from Mouser two days 
ago.

Most of the items are common components, with a BO lead-time into
September.  We live in a different world, at least temporarily if 
not for a

long haul?

Gary N7BRJ


On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ken B via Elecraft 


wrote:

   Its affecting everything - Tried to by a bunch of 555 timing 
chips for
the local troops scouting project - none around, glad we don't need 
them

till November.

  On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick <
n...@elecraft.com> wrote:

   Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well.

Wayne


elecraft.com


On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:


Hi Wayne.
I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.
The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors.
Ray WA6VAB  K3

From: Wayne Burdick
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM
To: Mark Goldberg
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of

the world

Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in

advance on most parts and assemblies.

Wayne
N6KR




On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg 


wrote:
For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a 
time,

it
is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the 
company I am
working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for 
simple

orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to

ship

rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.

Regards,

Mark

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:


An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of

chips...



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[Lou Mecseri]

JIT is a great low cost, effective system as long as it works. It did 
for a while.


But the real issue we refuse to face is to listen to Lenin who had been 
quoted "The Capitalist will sell you the rope to hang him."


And that is what happening, don't blame Communist China, No Far East 
power forced American businessman to "out source" production, only self 
imposed force applied is greed. No loyalty  to employees or to the best 
interest of the U.S. is considered in business decisions, only PROFIT..


73, Lou KE1F   ..-END

On 4/29/2021 21:34, AB2E Darrell wrote:

Joe and the group,
A company I used to do business with had a nickname for JIT supplying. SOL. 
They actually had it printed on a card JIT=SOL.

73
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on behalf 
of Joe Subich, W4TV 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 5:27 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world


Welcome to the world of "just in time" inventory meets off shore
production.  Then couple that with a Chinese Communist Party that
makes sure that Chinese companies get their orders filled before
the rest of the world.  Then don't forget that there are not enough
shipping containers to accommodate all the freight demands.

International commerce is reaping the rewards of concentrating
manufacturing in China while stripping the US & Canada (and to a
lesser extent, Europe) of much of their manufacturing base.

It's not just chips but pharmaceuticals, consumer electronics and
even consumer staples.  The trend will only get worse if the current
administration has its way and increases taxes on business and capital
by 50%.

73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-04-29 5:11 PM, Gary Memory wrote:

It isn't just IC's.  I placed a $250-ish order from Mouser two days ago.
Most of the items are common components, with a BO lead-time into
September.  We live in a different world, at least temporarily if not for a
long haul?

Gary N7BRJ


On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ken B via Elecraft 
wrote:


   Its affecting everything - Tried to by a bunch of 555 timing chips for
the local troops scouting project - none around, glad we don't need them
till November.

  On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick <
n...@elecraft.com> wrote:

   Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well.

Wayne


elecraft.com


On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:


Hi Wayne.
I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.
The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors.
Ray WA6VAB  K3

From: Wayne Burdick
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM
To: Mark Goldberg
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of

the world

Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in

advance on most parts and assemblies.

Wayne
N6KR





On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg 

wrote:

For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time,

it

is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am
working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple
orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to

ship

rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.

Regards,

Mark

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:


An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of

chips...




https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.opb.org%2Farticle%2F2021%2F04%2F29%2Fit-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C03c9fabfe8554921092f08d90b559f92%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637553284634272384%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=FJjpt0I3UZlGzvFZSS%2F%2BkzkEBHYIwOisa4m8nwu4iL8%3Dreserved=0

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Surface mount capacitors are also in very short supply.About a month ago PCB 
laminate was also difficult to get.  Not sure if that is still accurate.One 
problem fueling the shortages is panic buying. Manufacturers placing orders far 
above what demand is" just in case".73,Gary K9GS
 Original message From: Gary Memory  
Date: 4/29/21  5:13 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft Reflector 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for 
the chip users of the
world It isn't just IC's.  I placed a $250-ish order from Mouser two 
days ago.Most of the items are common components, with a BO lead-time 
intoSeptember.  We live in a different world, at least temporarily if not for 
along haul?Gary N7BRJOn Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ken B via Elecraft 
wrote:>  Its affecting everything - Tried to by a 
bunch of 555 timing chips for> the local troops scouting project - none around, 
glad we don't need them> till November.>> On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 
04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick <> n...@elecraft.com> wrote:>>  Many 
off-the-shelf parts are affected as well.>> Wayne>> > elecraft.com>> > On 
Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:> >> > > > Hi 
Wayne.> > I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.> > 
The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors.> > Ray WA6VAB  K3> >> > From: 
Wayne Burdick> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM> > To: Mark Goldberg> 
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for 
the chip users of> the world> >> > Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately 
we stocked up far in> advance on most parts and assemblies.> >> > Wayne> > 
N6KR> >> >> >> >> > > On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg 
> wrote:> > >> > > For smaller customers that are not 
buying millions of parts at a time,> it> > > is even worse, as they have no 
leverage. That includes the company I am> > > working for and I would assume 
companies like Elecraft. Even for simple> > > orders from distributors of in 
stock parts they are taking a week to> ship> > > rather than the usual next day 
shipment. It is really disruptive.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Mark> > >> > > 
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:> > >> > >> An 
interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of> chips...> > >>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[AB2E Darrell]

Joe and the group,
A company I used to do business with had a nickname for JIT supplying. SOL. 
They actually had it printed on a card JIT=SOL.

73
Darrell AB2E



From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Joe Subich, W4TV 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 5:27 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world


Welcome to the world of "just in time" inventory meets off shore
production.  Then couple that with a Chinese Communist Party that
makes sure that Chinese companies get their orders filled before
the rest of the world.  Then don't forget that there are not enough
shipping containers to accommodate all the freight demands.

International commerce is reaping the rewards of concentrating
manufacturing in China while stripping the US & Canada (and to a
lesser extent, Europe) of much of their manufacturing base.

It's not just chips but pharmaceuticals, consumer electronics and
even consumer staples.  The trend will only get worse if the current
administration has its way and increases taxes on business and capital
by 50%.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-04-29 5:11 PM, Gary Memory wrote:
> It isn't just IC's.  I placed a $250-ish order from Mouser two days ago.
> Most of the items are common components, with a BO lead-time into
> September.  We live in a different world, at least temporarily if not for a
> long haul?
>
> Gary N7BRJ
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ken B via Elecraft 
> wrote:
>
>>   Its affecting everything - Tried to by a bunch of 555 timing chips for
>> the local troops scouting project - none around, glad we don't need them
>> till November.
>>
>>  On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick <
>> n...@elecraft.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> 
>> elecraft.com
>>
>>> On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hi Wayne.
>>> I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.
>>> The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors.
>>> Ray WA6VAB  K3
>>>
>>> From: Wayne Burdick
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM
>>> To: Mark Goldberg
>>> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of
>> the world
>>>
>>> Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in
>> advance on most parts and assemblies.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg 
>> wrote:

 For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time,
>> it
 is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am
 working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple
 orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to
>> ship
 rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.

 Regards,

 Mark

 On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:

> An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of
>> chips...
>
>
>
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[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Welcome to the world of "just in time" inventory meets off shore
production.  Then couple that with a Chinese Communist Party that
makes sure that Chinese companies get their orders filled before
the rest of the world.  Then don't forget that there are not enough
shipping containers to accommodate all the freight demands.

International commerce is reaping the rewards of concentrating
manufacturing in China while stripping the US & Canada (and to a
lesser extent, Europe) of much of their manufacturing base.

It's not just chips but pharmaceuticals, consumer electronics and
even consumer staples.  The trend will only get worse if the current
administration has its way and increases taxes on business and capital
by 50%.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-04-29 5:11 PM, Gary Memory wrote:

It isn't just IC's.  I placed a $250-ish order from Mouser two days ago.
Most of the items are common components, with a BO lead-time into
September.  We live in a different world, at least temporarily if not for a
long haul?

Gary N7BRJ


On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ken B via Elecraft 
wrote:


  Its affecting everything - Tried to by a bunch of 555 timing chips for
the local troops scouting project - none around, glad we don't need them
till November.

 On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick <
n...@elecraft.com> wrote:

  Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well.

Wayne


elecraft.com


On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:


Hi Wayne.
I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.
The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors.
Ray WA6VAB  K3

From: Wayne Burdick
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM
To: Mark Goldberg
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of

the world


Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in

advance on most parts and assemblies.


Wayne
N6KR





On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg 

wrote:


For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time,

it

is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am
working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple
orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to

ship

rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.

Regards,

Mark

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:


An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of

chips...





https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/


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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Gary Memory]

It isn't just IC's.  I placed a $250-ish order from Mouser two days ago.
Most of the items are common components, with a BO lead-time into
September.  We live in a different world, at least temporarily if not for a
long haul?

Gary N7BRJ


On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ken B via Elecraft 
wrote:

>  Its affecting everything - Tried to by a bunch of 555 timing chips for
> the local troops scouting project - none around, glad we don't need them
> till November.
>
> On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick <
> n...@elecraft.com> wrote:
>
>  Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well.
>
> Wayne
>
> 
> elecraft.com
>
> > On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Hi Wayne.
> > I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.
> > The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors.
> > Ray WA6VAB  K3
> >
> > From: Wayne Burdick
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM
> > To: Mark Goldberg
> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of
> the world
> >
> > Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in
> advance on most parts and assemblies.
> >
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time,
> it
> > > is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am
> > > working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple
> > > orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to
> ship
> > > rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:
> > >
> > >> An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of
> chips...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/
> > >>
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Ken B via Elecraft]

 Its affecting everything - Tried to by a bunch of 555 timing chips for the 
local troops scouting project - none around, glad we don't need them till 
November.  

On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick 
 wrote:  
 
 Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well. 

Wayne 


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> On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Wayne.
> I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.
> The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors. 
> Ray WA6VAB  K3
>  
> From: Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM
> To: Mark Goldberg
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the 
> world
>  
> Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in advance on 
> most parts and assemblies.
>  
> Wayne
> N6KR
>  
>  
>  
>  
> > On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg  wrote:
> >
> > For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time, it
> > is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am
> > working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple
> > orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to ship
> > rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:
> >
> >> An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of chips...
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Wayne Burdick]

Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well. 

Wayne 


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> On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Wayne.
> I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.
> The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors. 
> Ray WA6VAB  K3
>  
> From: Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM
> To: Mark Goldberg
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the 
> world
>  
> Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in advance on 
> most parts and assemblies.
>  
> Wayne
> N6KR
>  
>  
>  
>  
> > On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg  wrote:
> >
> > For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time, it
> > is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am
> > working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple
> > orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to ship
> > rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:
> >
> >> An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of chips...
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/
> >>
> >> --
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Ian Kahn]

Wayne,

I hope that stock-up includes the two K3 - K3S upgrade boards I ordered
yesterday! :-)

73 de,

Ian, NV4C

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 2:41 PM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in advance
> on most parts and assemblies.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg 
> wrote:
> >
> > For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time, it
> > is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am
> > working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple
> > orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to ship
> > rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:
> >
> >> An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of
> chips...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/
> >>
> >> --
> >> 73, and thanks,
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Wayne Burdick]

Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in advance on 
most parts and assemblies. 

Wayne
N6KR




> On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg  wrote:
> 
> For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time, it
> is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am
> working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple
> orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to ship
> rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
>> An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of chips...
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/
>> 
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>> Dave (NK7Z)
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Mark Goldberg]

For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time, it
is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am
working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple
orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to ship
rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.

Regards,

Mark

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>
> https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/
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