Re: [Elecraft] the net

2013-06-10 Thread kevinr
I agree with Phil - propagation has not been helpful lately.  The second 
problem we have had is the loss of N0SS in the middle of the country.  
Tom would call for check ins after I had run through a few stronger 
stations.  Then, if possible, he would pass net control to the East 
Coast.  My reach on twenty meters, like Phil's, starts in Wyoming and 
thence to Michigan.  Colorado is on again off again as is Texas.  
However, ECN is very close to WAS lacking only Delaware. Check ins from 
as far as Hungary, South Africa, New Zealand, and Australia are in the 
log.  Japan and Russia are also in there.  Even though we are somewhere 
in the middle of this solar cycle propagation does not mirror this.


Once again: I would dearly love to have an alternate net control in the 
Midwest and one on the East Coast.  I, too, need a look back at my area 
on the West Coast to glean all the check ins from those areas too close 
to me.  I have worked a few local stations via ground wave.  But when 
you don't have a straight shot at me the signal must bounce off the not 
always reliable ionosphere.  I can get folks south and east of San 
Francisco but only when the propagation is correct.  I can also work 
into Texas on both twenty and forty meters.  Florida occasionally with 
Georgia slightly more often.  Since I can only work those I hear I am 
stuck with certain patterns of contacts reflected in my years of reports.


We really miss Tom Hammond, N0SS.  I know no one can replace him but I 
am sure he would like someone to try.  The skill level required is not 
very high.  There is a speed limit on the net control, set by Tom (of 
course), of 21 wpm.  Folks reply at their comfortable speed and I try to 
adjust.  I am sure there is someone in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, 
Missouri, Arkansas, or Louisiana who could help. You will get the very 
same pay as Tom; once you prove yourself of course :)  And there will be 
a lot of very happy people who are able to check in with their Elecraft 
(or other) rigs.  While we do exchange weather reports we try to give 
accurate signal reports with readings of strength, variability, and 
noise level.  If you want to talk about camping, birding, hiking, 
canoeing, etc.  please do so. Just because they call me net control does 
not mean I have control over much of anything :)   The position is very 
casual so if you feel like trying please do.  If you want to start 
regional nets please do that too.  The main thing is to enjoy yourselves.


73,
Kevin.  KD5ONS  Net Control Operator 5th Class

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On 6/10/2013 6:42 PM, Phil Shepard wrote:

Well, I can't speak much about propagation with the CW nets; but I can talk 
about the SSB net on Sunday at 1800z.  I am net control from western Oregon, 
about 100 miles south of Kevin.  From my QTH, it is hard to work on 20 meters 
from northern California up through Washington.  Southern California and Alaska 
is fine.  I see the same thing in SOTA hamming.  It is just too close for 20m 
(I have the same problem with Idaho).  I seem to do fine on 20m from the Rocky 
Mountains east to the Atlantic.  New England generally is good.  Sometimes my 
signal back east is not as strong as on other times.  I use the K3/KPA500 to a 
2 el cubical quad at 75'.  When I don't hear a station well enough, John, N6JW 
in Riverside, CA usually can get them.  We typically use one or two stations 
back east who seem strong to me (often Jim, W4RKS, in AL) to look for west 
coast or other stations that John or I can't get as well.

If you are outside of that 500 mile circle from the net control, you should 
usually get through.  If it is always hard to get heard, take a look at your 
antenna or terrain - or? The K2/3/X3 receivers are great for pulling in the 
weak ones!  Keep in mind that we are not in the best of propagation times.

73,
Phil, NS7P

On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Joseph Carter  wrote


I listen almost every week and can only get in (or hear it) about once every 
4-6 weeks.
Joe w9jc

On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:33 AM, Dave Moorman wrote:


That's been my experience here in west suburban Chicago, Richard.

Every couple of weeks I listen for the CW nets.  On a few occasions I’ve been 
able to hear the NCS signal in the noise but not well enough for any kind of 
sustained copy.   It's also rare that I can copy the stations checking one. 
Every now and then, one of them is a little ways above the noise but not by 
much.

Maybe there could be a Western Elecraft net and an Eastern or Midwestern 
Elecraft net.

Dave K9SW


On Jun 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Richard Neese  wrote:


I have been listening and not hearing a thing.
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Re: [Elecraft] the net

2013-06-10 Thread Phil Shepard
Well, I can't speak much about propagation with the CW nets; but I can talk 
about the SSB net on Sunday at 1800z.  I am net control from western Oregon, 
about 100 miles south of Kevin.  From my QTH, it is hard to work on 20 meters 
from northern California up through Washington.  Southern California and Alaska 
is fine.  I see the same thing in SOTA hamming.  It is just too close for 20m 
(I have the same problem with Idaho).  I seem to do fine on 20m from the Rocky 
Mountains east to the Atlantic.  New England generally is good.  Sometimes my 
signal back east is not as strong as on other times.  I use the K3/KPA500 to a 
2 el cubical quad at 75'.  When I don't hear a station well enough, John, N6JW 
in Riverside, CA usually can get them.  We typically use one or two stations 
back east who seem strong to me (often Jim, W4RKS, in AL) to look for west 
coast or other stations that John or I can't get as well.

If you are outside of that 500 mile circle from the net control, you should 
usually get through.  If it is always hard to get heard, take a look at your 
antenna or terrain - or? The K2/3/X3 receivers are great for pulling in the 
weak ones!  Keep in mind that we are not in the best of propagation times.

73,
Phil, NS7P

On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Joseph Carter  wrote 

> I listen almost every week and can only get in (or hear it) about once every 
> 4-6 weeks.
> Joe w9jc
> 
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:33 AM, Dave Moorman wrote:
> 
>> That's been my experience here in west suburban Chicago, Richard.  
>> 
>> Every couple of weeks I listen for the CW nets.  On a few occasions I’ve 
>> been able to hear the NCS signal in the noise but not well enough for any 
>> kind of sustained copy.   It's also rare that I can copy the stations 
>> checking one. Every now and then, one of them is a little ways above the 
>> noise but not by much.  
>> 
>> Maybe there could be a Western Elecraft net and an Eastern or Midwestern 
>> Elecraft net.  
>> 
>> Dave K9SW
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Richard Neese  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have been listening and not hearing a thing.
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Re: [Elecraft] the net

2013-06-10 Thread Joseph Carter
I listen almost every week and can only get in (or hear it) about once every 
4-6 weeks.
Joe w9jc

On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:33 AM, Dave Moorman wrote:

> That's been my experience here in west suburban Chicago, Richard.  
> 
> Every couple of weeks I listen for the CW nets.  On a few occasions I’ve been 
> able to hear the NCS signal in the noise but not well enough for any kind of 
> sustained copy.   It's also rare that I can copy the stations checking one. 
> Every now and then, one of them is a little ways above the noise but not by 
> much.  
> 
> Maybe there could be a Western Elecraft net and an Eastern or Midwestern 
> Elecraft net.  
> 
> Dave K9SW
> 
> 
> On Jun 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Richard Neese  wrote:
> 
>> I have been listening and not hearing a thing.
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Re: [Elecraft] the net

2013-06-10 Thread Fred Jensen
Well ... probably not, at least on 20.  I'm in Auburn 35mi NE of 
Sacramento and the only time I can hear Kevin on 20 is during the Es 
season [August-ish] and then it's hit and miss.  I have a tribander.  In 
the winter, 40 is already going long at net time.  When Tom was still 
alive, he'd call the net from the middle of the country after Kevin got 
as many as he could, which got all of us west coasters.


A low dipole on 40 [NVIS] might work better between N Cal and N OR.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
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On 6/10/2013 7:19 AM, Stephen Selberg wrote:

Greetings,

I too can not hear the nets at my QTH 50 miles south of San Francisco. Only
once did I hear a station down in Southern California who was able to relay
for me, but other than that, nada. I know it's not my antenna (okay maybe
it is a little) because I work and can hear other states and dx regularly.

One day ill get a nice beam and maybe that will help.



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Re: [Elecraft] the net

2013-06-10 Thread Stephen Selberg
Greetings,

I too can not hear the nets at my QTH 50 miles south of San Francisco. Only
once did I hear a station down in Southern California who was able to relay
for me, but other than that, nada. I know it's not my antenna (okay maybe
it is a little) because I work and can hear other states and dx regularly.
One day ill get a nice beam and maybe that will help.

Happy Monday and 73,

Steve KS6PD

On Sunday, June 9, 2013, Dave Moorman wrote:

> That's been my experience here in west suburban Chicago, Richard.
>
> Every couple of weeks I listen for the CW nets.  On a few occasions I’ve
> been able to hear the NCS signal in the noise but not well enough for any
> kind of sustained copy.   It's also rare that I can copy the stations
> checking one. Every now and then, one of them is a little ways above the
> noise but not by much.
>
> Maybe there could be a Western Elecraft net and an Eastern or Midwestern
> Elecraft net.
>
> Dave K9SW
>
>
> On Jun 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Richard Neese >
> wrote:
>
> > I have been listening and not hearing a thing.
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Re: [Elecraft] the net

2013-06-09 Thread Dave Moorman
That's been my experience here in west suburban Chicago, Richard.  

Every couple of weeks I listen for the CW nets.  On a few occasions I’ve been 
able to hear the NCS signal in the noise but not well enough for any kind of 
sustained copy.   It's also rare that I can copy the stations checking one. 
Every now and then, one of them is a little ways above the noise but not by 
much.  

Maybe there could be a Western Elecraft net and an Eastern or Midwestern 
Elecraft net.  

Dave K9SW


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