Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
+1 2012/9/10 Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com: I think we should first look at some kind of print screen, because the current color scheme is most likely the best 'default' I have found. And note that I program with emacs -nw mode, so readability is definitely a concern to me. PS: some packages can be installed that alter the color scheme of certain programs, not quite sure if there isn't something like that on the system were the bug was detected. On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 15:07 +0100, David Gomes wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
https://launchpadlibrarian.net/115431046/screenshot.png The bug report just posted that picture, it looks pretty bad. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, dkotrada dkotr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 2012/9/10 Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com: I think we should first look at some kind of print screen, because the current color scheme is most likely the best 'default' I have found. And note that I program with emacs -nw mode, so readability is definitely a concern to me. PS: some packages can be installed that alter the color scheme of certain programs, not quite sure if there isn't something like that on the system were the bug was detected. On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 15:07 +0100, David Gomes wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
That sounds way too complex when compared to just using Gnome's scheme (to the which people are used). On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Yes, definitely it does look pretty bad... So, ideas for the fix... What about some kind of filter on issued commands, that way each app could *temporarily* change it's color scheme and we could keep our current theme, and just _fix and maybe even improve those that fail miserably ... I know some work would be required, but in overall i don't think would be extremely difficult. It would be a matter of keeping a list of known names (exceptions like aptitude) and check the argument that is going to be executed... How does that sound to you guys ? On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 12:19 +0100, David Gomes wrote: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/115431046/screenshot.png The bug report just posted that picture, it looks pretty bad. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, dkotrada dkotr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 2012/9/10 Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com: I think we should first look at some kind of print screen, because the current color scheme is most likely the best 'default' I have found. And note that I program with emacs -nw mode, so readability is definitely a concern to me. PS: some packages can be installed that alter the color scheme of certain programs, not quite sure if there isn't something like that on the system were the bug was detected. On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 15:07 +0100, David Gomes wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
Sorry but I completely disagree. This also would mean that later down the road if we decide to change visual schemes on the project the tools were already there. Also the whole point of Elementary is Bring a new User Experience (the way I see it at least)... Else why would we create pantheon-terminal... Sticking to a tested tool like gnome-terminal would have been a wiser choice if the point is to _have_ what people are _used__to__ On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 13:00 +0100, David Gomes wrote: That sounds way too complex when compared to just using Gnome's scheme (to the which people are used). On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Yes, definitely it does look pretty bad... So, ideas for the fix... What about some kind of filter on issued commands, that way each app could *temporarily* change it's color scheme and we could keep our current theme, and just _fix and maybe even improve those that fail miserably ... I know some work would be required, but in overall i don't think would be extremely difficult. It would be a matter of keeping a list of known names (exceptions like aptitude) and check the argument that is going to be executed... How does that sound to you guys ? On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 12:19 +0100, David Gomes wrote: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/115431046/screenshot.png The bug report just posted that picture, it looks pretty bad. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, dkotrada dkotr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 2012/9/10 Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com: I think we should first look at some kind of print screen, because the current color scheme is most likely the best 'default' I have found. And note that I program with emacs -nw mode, so readability is definitely a concern to me. PS: some packages can be installed that alter the color scheme of certain programs, not quite sure if there isn't something like that on the system were the bug was detected. On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 15:07 +0100, David Gomes wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
The tools are already here. Just open dconf-editor and you can easily change the palette scheme of the terminal. *Right now*, we want to focus on making pantheon-terminal ready so that we can release Luna. The Gnome Terminal scheme is pretty good and our designers don't really have the time to work on a brand new color scheme. Voldyman suggested we use Tango. Tango looks good. Also, I think we're overestimating the importance of the terminal color scheme... On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Sorry but I completely disagree. This also would mean that later down the road if we decide to change visual schemes on the project the tools were already there. Also the whole point of Elementary is Bring a new User Experience (the way I see it at least)... Else why would we create pantheon-terminal... Sticking to a tested tool like gnome-terminal would have been a wiser choice if the point is to _have_ what people are _used__to__ On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 13:00 +0100, David Gomes wrote: That sounds way too complex when compared to just using Gnome's scheme (to the which people are used). On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Yes, definitely it does look pretty bad... So, ideas for the fix... What about some kind of filter on issued commands, that way each app could *temporarily* change it's color scheme and we could keep our current theme, and just _fix and maybe even improve those that fail miserably ... I know some work would be required, but in overall i don't think would be extremely difficult. It would be a matter of keeping a list of known names (exceptions like aptitude) and check the argument that is going to be executed... How does that sound to you guys ? On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 12:19 +0100, David Gomes wrote: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/115431046/screenshot.png The bug report just posted that picture, it looks pretty bad. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, dkotrada dkotr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 2012/9/10 Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com: I think we should first look at some kind of print screen, because the current color scheme is most likely the best 'default' I have found. And note that I program with emacs -nw mode, so readability is definitely a concern to me. PS: some packages can be installed that alter the color scheme of certain programs, not quite sure if there isn't something like that on the system were the bug was detected. On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 15:07 +0100, David Gomes wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
I think we are bikeshedding :-) David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org skrev: The tools are already here. Just open dconf-editor and you can easily change the palette scheme of the terminal. *Right now*, we want to focus on making pantheon-terminal ready so that we can release Luna. The Gnome Terminal scheme is pretty good and our designers don't really have the time to work on a brand new color scheme. Voldyman suggested we use Tango. Tango looks good. Also, I think we're overestimating the importance of the terminal color scheme... On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Sorry but I completely disagree. This also would mean that later down the road if we decide to change visual schemes on the project the tools were already there. Also the whole point of Elementary is Bring a new User Experience (the way I see it at least)... Else why would we create pantheon-terminal... Sticking to a tested tool like gnome-terminal would have been a wiser choice if the point is to _have_ what people are _used__to__ On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 13:00 +0100, David Gomes wrote: That sounds way too complex when compared to just using Gnome's scheme (to the which people are used). On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Yes, definitely it does look pretty bad... So, ideas for the fix... What about some kind of filter on issued commands, that way each app could *temporarily* change it's color scheme and we could keep our current theme, and just _fix and maybe even improve those that fail miserably ... I know some work would be required, but in overall i don't think would be extremely difficult. It would be a matter of keeping a list of known names (exceptions like aptitude) and check the argument that is going to be executed... How does that sound to you guys ? On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 12:19 +0100, David Gomes wrote: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/115431046/screenshot.png The bug report just posted that picture, it looks pretty bad. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, dkotrada dkotr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 2012/9/10 Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com: I think we should first look at some kind of print screen, because the current color scheme is most likely the best 'default' I have found. And note that I program with emacs -nw mode, so readability is definitely a concern to me. PS: some packages can be installed that alter the color scheme of certain programs, not quite sure if there isn't something like that on the system were the bug was detected. On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 15:07 +0100, David Gomes wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
I'm +1 on using Tango and revisiting this layer if someone thinks it's actually really important. I'm -1 on spending a lot if time on some kind of complicated profile switching mechanism. It's just not worth it here, IMHO. Best Regards, Daniel Foré El sep 11, 2012, a las 5:31 a.m., David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org escribió: The tools are already here. Just open dconf-editor and you can easily change the palette scheme of the terminal. Right now, we want to focus on making pantheon-terminal ready so that we can release Luna. The Gnome Terminal scheme is pretty good and our designers don't really have the time to work on a brand new color scheme. Voldyman suggested we use Tango. Tango looks good. Also, I think we're overestimating the importance of the terminal color scheme... On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Sorry but I completely disagree. This also would mean that later down the road if we decide to change visual schemes on the project the tools were already there. Also the whole point of Elementary is Bring a new User Experience (the way I see it at least)... Else why would we create pantheon-terminal... Sticking to a tested tool like gnome-terminal would have been a wiser choice if the point is to _have_ what people are _used__to__ On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 13:00 +0100, David Gomes wrote: That sounds way too complex when compared to just using Gnome's scheme (to the which people are used). On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Yes, definitely it does look pretty bad... So, ideas for the fix... What about some kind of filter on issued commands, that way each app could *temporarily* change it's color scheme and we could keep our current theme, and just _fix and maybe even improve those that fail miserably ... I know some work would be required, but in overall i don't think would be extremely difficult. It would be a matter of keeping a list of known names (exceptions like aptitude) and check the argument that is going to be executed... How does that sound to you guys ? On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 12:19 +0100, David Gomes wrote: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/115431046/screenshot.png The bug report just posted that picture, it looks pretty bad. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, dkotrada dkotr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 2012/9/10 Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com: I think we should first look at some kind of print screen, because the current color scheme is most likely the best 'default' I have found. And note that I program with emacs -nw mode, so readability is definitely a concern to me. PS: some packages can be installed that alter the color scheme of certain programs, not quite sure if there isn't something like that on the system were the bug was detected. On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 15:07 +0100, David Gomes wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to :
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
Ok Daniel, we will. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: I'm +1 on using Tango and revisiting this layer if someone thinks it's actually really important. I'm -1 on spending a lot if time on some kind of complicated profile switching mechanism. It's just not worth it here, IMHO. Best Regards, Daniel Foré El sep 11, 2012, a las 5:31 a.m., David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org escribió: The tools are already here. Just open dconf-editor and you can easily change the palette scheme of the terminal. *Right now*, we want to focus on making pantheon-terminal ready so that we can release Luna. The Gnome Terminal scheme is pretty good and our designers don't really have the time to work on a brand new color scheme. Voldyman suggested we use Tango. Tango looks good. Also, I think we're overestimating the importance of the terminal color scheme... On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Sorry but I completely disagree. This also would mean that later down the road if we decide to change visual schemes on the project the tools were already there. Also the whole point of Elementary is Bring a new User Experience (the way I see it at least)... Else why would we create pantheon-terminal... Sticking to a tested tool like gnome-terminal would have been a wiser choice if the point is to _have_ what people are _used__to__ On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 13:00 +0100, David Gomes wrote: That sounds way too complex when compared to just using Gnome's scheme (to the which people are used). On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Yes, definitely it does look pretty bad... So, ideas for the fix... What about some kind of filter on issued commands, that way each app could *temporarily* change it's color scheme and we could keep our current theme, and just _fix and maybe even improve those that fail miserably ... I know some work would be required, but in overall i don't think would be extremely difficult. It would be a matter of keeping a list of known names (exceptions like aptitude) and check the argument that is going to be executed... How does that sound to you guys ? On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 12:19 +0100, David Gomes wrote: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/115431046/screenshot.png The bug report just posted that picture, it looks pretty bad. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, dkotrada dkotr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 2012/9/10 Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com: I think we should first look at some kind of print screen, because the current color scheme is most likely the best 'default' I have found. And note that I program with emacs -nw mode, so readability is definitely a concern to me. PS: some packages can be installed that alter the color scheme of certain programs, not quite sure if there isn't something like that on the system were the bug was detected. On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 15:07 +0100, David Gomes wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list:
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
I think it's best to switch to gnome-terminal scheme and wishlist 1045511 until a designer gets time to think of something considering how busy everyone is right now. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:07 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
I think we should first look at some kind of print screen, because the current color scheme is most likely the best 'default' I have found. And note that I program with emacs -nw mode, so readability is definitely a concern to me. PS: some packages can be installed that alter the color scheme of certain programs, not quite sure if there isn't something like that on the system were the bug was detected. On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 15:07 +0100, David Gomes wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
well the default color scheme is very good and aptitude is quite readable and its the best that i have used. Voldyman On 10-Sep-2012, at 7:37 PM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
