Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode
How do we test clean installs? I've noticed virtualbox can't seem to read eOS isos. On Sep 17, 2012 4:43 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey Alex, All patches are properly propagated now. Please test OEM installation and report results. 2012/8/27 Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org The updates have finally* landed to PPAs, so I've put together an updated ISO image. It does not include our patcheshttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-os/elementaryos/os-patch-ubiquityof Ubiquity because imports of Ubuntu packages to Launchpadhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/ubiquity/precise-updatesare lagging (as usually) and Ubiquity patch is not yet rebased onto our custom import infrastructurehttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-os/ubuntu-package-imports/ubiquity-precise. But we didn't change anything critical, so I guess OEM installation should still work. As far as the prepare for shipping launcher goes, it should be present in the dock now. *usually it doesn't take that long. Canonical happened to be moving datacenters and that caused some quirks and delays. 2012/8/18 Alejandro Morales Lepe aml24...@gmail.com: Hi Sergey! I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso! - Alex -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode
How do we test clean installs? I've noticed virtualbox can't seem to read eOS isos. Why am I not surprised? Use VMware Player or make LiveUSBs using Ubuntu's built-in usb-creator (in case you don't use ubuntu, run isohybrid on the ISO and dd it to a USB thumb). -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode
I'll admit the only one I tried was 9/14. Shame on me for assuming it was a persistent virtual box problem. :) On Sep 18, 2012 6:42 PM, ttosttos Sa ttost...@gmail.com wrote: I rarely run into issues loading elementary ISOs on VBox. Last one, I tried was 9/5 w/o any issues. ttosttos -- On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Craig webe...@gmail.com wrote: How do we test clean installs? I've noticed virtualbox can't seem to read eOS isos. On Sep 17, 2012 4:43 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey Alex, All patches are properly propagated now. Please test OEM installation and report results. 2012/8/27 Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org The updates have finally* landed to PPAs, so I've put together an updated ISO image. It does not include our patcheshttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-os/elementaryos/os-patch-ubiquityof Ubiquity because imports of Ubuntu packages to Launchpadhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/ubiquity/precise-updatesare lagging (as usually) and Ubiquity patch is not yet rebased onto our custom import infrastructurehttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-os/ubuntu-package-imports/ubiquity-precise. But we didn't change anything critical, so I guess OEM installation should still work. As far as the prepare for shipping launcher goes, it should be present in the dock now. *usually it doesn't take that long. Canonical happened to be moving datacenters and that caused some quirks and delays. 2012/8/18 Alejandro Morales Lepe aml24...@gmail.com: Hi Sergey! I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso! - Alex -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode
I use qemu, and for graphical frontend aqemu ... as long you have support for KVM module you are good to go. Works 10/10 times for me On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 04:59 +0400, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: I'm glad it works in VirtualBox sometimes, but you'd better avoid using it for Linux guests, especially for testing purposes. Its guest additions are known to cause weird issues and crashes all over the system (see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTk5Mw) and without guest additions you won't get 3D acceleration that's currently required by Gala. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode
Hey Alex, All patches are properly propagated now. Please test OEM installation and report results. 2012/8/27 Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org The updates have finally* landed to PPAs, so I've put together an updated ISO image. It does not include our patcheshttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-os/elementaryos/os-patch-ubiquityof Ubiquity because imports of Ubuntu packages to Launchpadhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/ubiquity/precise-updatesare lagging (as usually) and Ubiquity patch is not yet rebased onto our custom import infrastructurehttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-os/ubuntu-package-imports/ubiquity-precise. But we didn't change anything critical, so I guess OEM installation should still work. As far as the prepare for shipping launcher goes, it should be present in the dock now. *usually it doesn't take that long. Canonical happened to be moving datacenters and that caused some quirks and delays. 2012/8/18 Alejandro Morales Lepe aml24...@gmail.com: Hi Sergey! I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso! - Alex -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode
The updates have finally* landed to PPAs, so I've put together an updated ISO image. It does not include our patcheshttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-os/elementaryos/os-patch-ubiquityof Ubiquity because imports of Ubuntu packages to Launchpadhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/ubiquity/precise-updatesare lagging (as usually) and Ubiquity patch is not yet rebased onto our custom import infrastructurehttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-os/ubuntu-package-imports/ubiquity-precise. But we didn't change anything critical, so I guess OEM installation should still work. As far as the prepare for shipping launcher goes, it should be present in the dock now. *usually it doesn't take that long. Canonical happened to be moving datacenters and that caused some quirks and delays. 2012/8/18 Alejandro Morales Lepe aml24...@gmail.com: Hi Sergey! I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso! - Alex El 18/08/12 01:23, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff escribió: Hey Alex, From what I gathered so far, there should be a menu entry for that, unless the menu got gobbled up by https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1022367 I've committed a patch that's supposed to put the launcher in the dock too and make it not removable by user oem (without sudoing at least). Launchpad is slow recently, so it will take a while to build. I'll notify you when an ISO with that patch is available; would be great if you could test it. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode
(sorry, my previous message was sent without being completed) Not any application in particular, but after installing on OEM mode (when you boot the liveCD press any key to change language, then select language and press F4 to select installation modes, where OEM installation is available) there should be an option to set-up for end user, which is not present, that option should allow the final user of the computer to create its user accounts, set up keyboard and language. This is useful for those who might want to install Luna in a computer that will be used by another person, like a brand new one. Attached 2 images, the first one (screen1.png) shows the OEM install option. the second one (screen2.png) shows the prepare for shipping to end user option in Xubuntu 12.04 which is missing on Luna. Yes, the old OEM installation from the DVD is not used any more, however it can be enabled pressing F4 on the liveCD The OEM install is, in my opinion, very important, it's handy when you perform an install for somebody else but you don't want to create an user account for it, just like a brand new computer, you install this way, select prepare for... and shutdown the computer, ship it to who is going to use it and when he/she turns on the computer, the initial set up will be shown. See the rest of images which displays what happens next after you select the option prepare for... - Alex After that process the user is taken to the login page so he/she can use the account just created. El 17/08/12 13:26, Cody Garver escribió: What application(s) do you expect? We probably removed them to save space. Maybe we can make room to return them to the ISO. However, space is quite scarce at the moment. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Alejandro Morales Lepe aml24...@gmail.com mailto:aml24...@gmail.com wrote: Hello team! I did what Fabian suggested and installed on a virtual machine successfully, pressing F4 and selecting OEM mode. However, after rebooting I ran into a very important problem, there is no way to set up the system for end user, there is no icon in the desktop nor a menu entry (and I don't remember if there is a terminal way to do that). I would like to fix this, however, I don't know how. - Alex El 16/08/12 13:31, Fabian Thoma escribió: Hey Alex, I'm not 100% sure but as we use the same installer as Ubuntu does this might actually already work without us knowing, it would be great if you could test such an installation out on one of our recent daily builds(which you can find here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/) Thanks for pointing us in this direction, have a nice day ;) On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Alejandro Morales Lepe aml24...@gmail.com mailto:aml24...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Team! I would like to know if Elementary OS Luna will include an OEM installation mode like Ubuntu, to allow install the OS for a future user to configure. I sometimes rebuild computers and sell them with Ubuntu, but I would like to switch to Luna once it is released, but for this an OEM install mode is crucial. Is it going to be available? Is it going to be able to install applications for the end-user? will it include codecs? Thanks in advance! - Alex -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net mailto:elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- http://elementaryos.org/ *Fabian Thoma* | *Council Member* elementary OS fab...@elementaryos.org mailto:fab...@elementaryos.org / elementaryos.org http://elementaryos.org/ -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net mailto:elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode
Hello team! I did what Fabian suggested and installed on a virtual machine successfully, pressing F4 and selecting OEM mode. However, after rebooting I ran into a very important problem, there is no way to set up the system for end user, there is no icon in the desktop nor a menu entry (and I don't remember if there is a terminal way to do that). I would like to fix this, however, I don't know how. - Alex El 16/08/12 13:31, Fabian Thoma escribió: Hey Alex, I'm not 100% sure but as we use the same installer as Ubuntu does this might actually already work without us knowing, it would be great if you could test such an installation out on one of our recent daily builds(which you can find here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/) Thanks for pointing us in this direction, have a nice day ;) On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Alejandro Morales Lepe aml24...@gmail.com mailto:aml24...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Team! I would like to know if Elementary OS Luna will include an OEM installation mode like Ubuntu, to allow install the OS for a future user to configure. I sometimes rebuild computers and sell them with Ubuntu, but I would like to switch to Luna once it is released, but for this an OEM install mode is crucial. Is it going to be available? Is it going to be able to install applications for the end-user? will it include codecs? Thanks in advance! - Alex -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net mailto:elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community https://launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- http://elementaryos.org/*Fabian Thoma* | *Council Member* elementary OS fab...@elementaryos.org mailto:fab...@elementaryos.org / elementaryos.org http://elementaryos.org/ -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode
2012/8/17 Alejandro Morales Lepe aml24...@gmail.com However, after rebooting I ran into a very important problem, there is no way to set up the system for end user, there is no icon in the desktop nor a menu entry (and I don't remember if there is a terminal way to do that). I would like to fix this, however, I don't know how. Hello Alex, I've tried to look for OEM installation docs and found only https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview which is old and most likely outdated. Could you briefly describe the process of OEM installation - for example, what's the difference compared to the normal one? And what stage exactly is missing? Given more info on the use case - why it's needed, and who and when uses it - we'll be able to request input from the user experience team and possibly improve the missing stage instead of simply bringing it back. I've opened a bug about it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1038242 so it doesn't get lost/forgotten, please feel free to correct or update it. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode
Hey Alex, I'm not 100% sure but as we use the same installer as Ubuntu does this might actually already work without us knowing, it would be great if you could test such an installation out on one of our recent daily builds(which you can find here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/) Thanks for pointing us in this direction, have a nice day ;) On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Alejandro Morales Lepe aml24...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Team! I would like to know if Elementary OS Luna will include an OEM installation mode like Ubuntu, to allow install the OS for a future user to configure. I sometimes rebuild computers and sell them with Ubuntu, but I would like to switch to Luna once it is released, but for this an OEM install mode is crucial. Is it going to be available? Is it going to be able to install applications for the end-user? will it include codecs? Thanks in advance! - Alex -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@**lists.launchpad.netelementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- http://elementaryos.org/*Fabian Thoma* | *Council Member* elementary OS fab...@elementaryos.org / elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
