Re: [elinks-users] Questions about rendering of some web pages.
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:53:42AM EDT, Jonas Fonseca wrote: > cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Sat, May 13, 2006: > > Here are a couple of things that I noticed: > > > > 1. Text background colors are often truncated to the length of the > >text rather than continuing to the end of the line. An example would > >be the gentoo.org web site where the different items on the home > >page are separated by a plum-colored line. When viewed with elinks > >these lines are terminated immediately after the last character in > >the heading. > > > > 2. Many sites have a horizontal line of buttons somewhere near the top > >with links to the main areas of the site. On the same www.gentoo.org > >home page this is rendered correctly (About | Projects | Docs .. etc.) > > > >On the contrary at www.debian.org the links do not appear lined > >horizontally but rather as a vertical list to the left of the > >display: > > > >* About Debian > >* News > >* Getting Debian > >* Support > >* .. > > > >Worse, some sites - can't find one right now - have such a long list > >of links in that horizontal "site bar" that when displayed > >vertically you end up having to page down to actually see the > >beginning of the page. > > > > I was wondering if everyone sees the same thing and if not if there is > > anything I should change in my terminal/elinks configuration that might > > help correct these issues? > > The problem is that ELinks' renderer does not support the CSS box model > and thus falls short on pages that make heavy use of it. No > configuration option can fix this. The renderer has to be rewritten to > be based on DOM. Some work has been done but there is a very very long > way to go. > Pity.. But thanks for the explanation. I'm sure this will do lots of other useful things I have no idea of but just this enhancement makes it well worth waiting for these changes. Thanks, cga ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] re-binding "go forward" and "go back" keys via the Keybinding Manager
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 10:08:14AM EDT, Jonas Fonseca wrote: > Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Wed, May 17, 2006: > > Salve cga2000! > > > - possibly a misunderstanding on my part regarding the > > > functionality that this function provides: I assume they > > > correspond to the back/forward buttons on other browsers > > Yes, they correspond to back/forward buttons in graphical browsers. > Basically, the view state (what link you were on etc.) will be > restored when moving back and forth in this manner. > Thanks a ton. I have remapped them to "h" and "l" .. a lot more convenient for me than the arrow/cursor keys which are very difficult to reach on this laptop. In order to do that, I had to remap "l" - "jump to link" to "u" but I'm not sure what that does - sorry, I'm clueless about web stuff. I tried it in different contexts and it does nothing. What's the difference between "jump to link" and "follow link"? "Jump" to a link sounds clear enough but from where? When I first saw it I thought it just meant "go to link target" when a link is highlighted but that's apparently not the case. > > > - I would like > > > to re-bind these keys to something more accessible.. replacing the back > > > arrow in particular by something in the keyboard's home row in > > > particular would make life a lot easier. > > > > > > The problem is that I have not been able to locate them under the > > > Keybinding Manager popup. I used the Search button and still no joy. > > > > Don't seach for "u", collapes all, do search for e.g. "forward" > > (without ") > > > > > Are they referenced under another name or is there a reason why they > > > would appear to be missing? > > > > AFAIK does the search only lookup the names of the keybindings. > > Yes, it is only possible to search the names of the keybinding actions. > > > maybe see: > > http://elinks.or.cz/documentation/manpages/elinkskeys.5.html > > Or for an overview matching you own modified keybindings look at the > Keys dialog located in under Help in the main menu. It can be expanded > to list all configured keybindings grouped by the main, edit, and menu > mapping. Very nice. Thanks for all the details. cga ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] re-binding "go forward" and "go back" keys via the Keybinding Manager
Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Wed, May 17, 2006: > Salve cga2000! > > - possibly a misunderstanding on my part > > regarding the functionality that this function provides: I assume they > > correspond to the back/forward buttons on other browsers Yes, they correspond to back/forward buttons in graphical browsers. Basically, the view state (what link you were on etc.) will be restored when moving back and forth in this manner. > > - I would like > > to re-bind these keys to something more accessible.. replacing the back > > arrow in particular by something in the keyboard's home row in > > particular would make life a lot easier. > > > > The problem is that I have not been able to locate them under the > > Keybinding Manager popup. I used the Search button and still no joy. > > Don't seach for "u", collapes all, do search for e.g. "forward" > (without ") > > > Are they referenced under another name or is there a reason why they > > would appear to be missing? > > AFAIK does the search only lookup the names of the keybindings. Yes, it is only possible to search the names of the keybinding actions. > maybe see: > http://elinks.or.cz/documentation/manpages/elinkskeys.5.html Or for an overview matching you own modified keybindings look at the Keys dialog located in under Help in the main menu. It can be expanded to list all configured keybindings grouped by the main, edit, and menu mapping. -- Jonas Fonseca ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Questions about rendering of some web pages and Numbered Links
Steve Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Sun, May 14, 2006: > I would like to add to this thread another question concerning numbered > links. I notice on some pages the link numbers don't always coincide > with the arrow keys when navigating a page. I should probably explain > further. Say a page is numbered in proper numeric order 1 through 30. > But as you arrow down a page, the highlight will stop at numbered links > out of sequence such as going from #4, next to #15, then on through the > rest of the proper sequence and then wrap around to #5, #6,... thru #14, > then back to #1 and do this all over again. The one site I know this > for sure is my private banking website. I can't think of a public one I > can give you for the example. I wonder if it might have to do with > frame rendorring but don't recall if my banking site uses frames or not. Consider a long page which has three columns for example using tables. Due to how the HTML is structured all links in the first column will be encountered by the renderer before any in the two other columns. If the first column stretches over several pages the arrow keys will try to first traverse all links in the currently viewed page before starting to scroll. This may result in links being traversed out of order. I hope that answers you question. > As another side effect to this problem, typing the link number will not > take you to the desired link because of the navigation sequence being > wrong so they are tied together some how. If link numbering seems to be broken, you can try to toggle the option: document.browse.links.use_tabindex I may sometimes have buggy affect on the allocation of link numbers. -- Jonas Fonseca ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] Questions about rendering of some web pages.
cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Sat, May 13, 2006: > Here are a couple of things that I noticed: > > 1. Text background colors are often truncated to the length of the >text rather than continuing to the end of the line. An example would >be the gentoo.org web site where the different items on the home >page are separated by a plum-colored line. When viewed with elinks >these lines are terminated immediately after the last character in >the heading. > > 2. Many sites have a horizontal line of buttons somewhere near the top >with links to the main areas of the site. On the same www.gentoo.org >home page this is rendered correctly (About | Projects | Docs .. etc.) > >On the contrary at www.debian.org the links do not appear lined >horizontally but rather as a vertical list to the left of the >display: > >* About Debian >* News >* Getting Debian >* Support >* .. > >Worse, some sites - can't find one right now - have such a long list >of links in that horizontal "site bar" that when displayed >vertically you end up having to page down to actually see the >beginning of the page. > > I was wondering if everyone sees the same thing and if not if there is > anything I should change in my terminal/elinks configuration that might > help correct these issues? The problem is that ELinks' renderer does not support the CSS box model and thus falls short on pages that make heavy use of it. No configuration option can fix this. The renderer has to be rewritten to be based on DOM. Some work has been done but there is a very very long way to go. -- Jonas Fonseca ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] elinks charsets
cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Sat, May 13, 2006: > On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 09:13:12AM EDT, Jonas Fonseca wrote: > > Well, graphics mode has been there for five year or something and > > nothing has happened yet. I think that is a bigger disappointment. ;) > > Not for me. :-) > > What is "graphics mode" where elinks is concerned? A renderer using SDL or something has been discussed, but I think the ability to just render images on top of the current text renderer would good enough. -- Jonas Fonseca ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
Re: [elinks-users] re-binding "go forward" and "go back" keys via the Keybinding Manager
Salve cga2000! (no realname?) On Mon, 15 May 2006, cga2000 wrote: > The "go forward" and "go back" keys on the context menu accessible via > the "E" key are bound to "u" and "left". Apart from the fact that I > cannot get "u" to do anything "u" stands for Go forward in history (history-move-forward) e.G you visit index.html -> 1.html -> 2.html the list of history: index.html 1.html -> 2.html than you use "left" for "Go back" and it goes back to 1.html the list of history: index.html -> 1.html 2.html Now you can use "u" to go back to 2.html the list of history: index.html 1.html -> 2.html Go back with "left": index.html -> 1.html 2.html Go to 3.html: index.html 1.html 3.html You want to go to 2.html - use "h" for open the "Open history manager (history-manager)" > - possibly a misunderstanding on my part > regarding the functionality that this function provides: I assume they > correspond to the back/forward buttons on other browsers Other browsers with GUI shows you if you there is somepage where you can move-forward. > - I would like > to re-bind these keys to something more accessible.. replacing the back > arrow in particular by something in the keyboard's home row in > particular would make life a lot easier. > > The problem is that I have not been able to locate them under the > Keybinding Manager popup. I used the Search button and still no joy. Don't seach for "u", collapes all, do search for e.g. "forward" (without ") > Are they referenced under another name or is there a reason why they > would appear to be missing? AFAIK does the search only lookup the names of the keybindings. maybe see: http://elinks.or.cz/documentation/manpages/elinkskeys.5.html Greetings, rob ___ elinks-users mailing list elinks-users@linuxfromscratch.org http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/elinks-users
