date:20090623

I have used several information management tools over the years, but I
am trying to use Emacs/orgmode more. There are many examples of people
using Orgmode for time management type tasks, but not a lot on
information management.

I would be interested in any insights into  how people use orgmode for
information management eg. gathering information for scientific paper.

Many thanks,

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[Orgmode] Re: Volunteer wanted for administration of emacs-orgmode

2009-06-23 Thread Paul R

Hello Carsten, hello all,

Carsten> If you'd like to take over that task for a while, please get in
Carsten> touch with Paul, CC to me and to the mailing list (so that not
Carsten> 100 people write to Paul... :-)

I got in touch with Mickael and gave him the material needed to get
started with org-mode ML moderation. Thanks a lot to all the people that
accepted to take over for this role.

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[Orgmode] Re: Volunteer wanted for administration of emacs-orgmode


Hi Paul,

thank you very much for the time you contributed by moderating the  
group.


- Carsten

On Jun 23, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Paul R wrote:


Hello Carsten, hello all,

Carsten> If you'd like to take over that task for a while, please  
get in
Carsten> touch with Paul, CC to me and to the mailing list (so that  
not

Carsten> 100 people write to Paul... :-)

I got in touch with Mickael and gave him the material needed to get
started with org-mode ML moderation. Thanks a lot to all the people  
that

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Re: [Orgmode] Commas in {{date(FORMAT)}}}



On May 18, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Dale Smith wrote:


Carsten Dominik  writes:


On May 14, 2009, at 11:03 PM, Dale Smith wrote:

 I'm confused about the value of FORMAT in {{{date(FORMAT)}}}.

 I wanted to use "%B %e, %Y", but I have two problems.  With the
 quotes, I get an "eval: End of file during parsing" message.   
Without

 the quotes, processing stops at the comma, expanding to "May 14"
 instead of "May 14, 2009".

 Thanks,
-Dale

Wow, I knew this report was coming, but I had not at all
expected it so fast.


heh.


"," is the (undocumented) argument separator for Org macros.
Actually, I am changing it now to ";", so that your example
should now directly work.  To include a semicolon in the date
format, use "\;".


Actually, I am changing it back to ",", this is more natural,
please escape "," like "\'" after your next update from  git

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] MACRO with multiple arguments?



On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:15 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:


Hello,

I need to occasionally export a simple table with two images (so  
they are nicely aligned in one row). My approach was to use a MACRO:


#+MACRO: my-simple-2table #+HTML: src="./images/$1"/>src="./images/$2"/>


But

{{{my-simple-2table(image1, image2)}}}

does not work (MACROs with just one argument work fine in 6.27trans  
of some minutes ago; MACRO support was broken some hours ago):


$1 -> "image1, image2"
$2 -> ""

I am not sure if this example is supposed to even work at all (there  
is no such claim in the 6.27 release notes), however, it would be  
nice if it did! Many thanks in advance!


I am sorry if this topic has been discussed before.


The argument separator was ";", but I am actually changing it back to  
comma, this

feels more natural to me.

If you need a comma in an argument, write it as "\,".

HTH

- Carsten



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[Orgmode] Re: tags-tree question



On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:52 AM, Pete Phillips wrote:


Evening to you all


"Carsten" == Carsten Dominik  writes:


   Carsten> Pete, what exactly do you meam by "custom agenda" here.

I mean it's one of my org-agenda-custom-commands. This is my (probably
overly) complex setup to list any of the things I do at home, which  
have

a TODO="NEXT" action associated with them.

 ("h" "Home Stuff (Next)"
  ((tags-todo "Home//NEXT" nil)
   (tags-todo "DIY//NEXT" nil)
   (tags-todo "Karen//NEXT" nil)
   (tags-todo "PhoneH//NEXT" nil)
   (tags-todo "LaptopH//NEXT" nil)
   (tags-todo "WaitingH//NEXT" nil)
   (tags-todo "SometimeH//NEXT" nil))
  nil)

Some of these actions will have SCHEDULED or DEADLINE dates associated
with them and I only want to see those actions 30 days (or perhaps 60
days) before the date. Anything without a DEADLine or SCHEDULED date I
want to see in the list.

   Carsten> It is a tags/property/todo search?  In that case you could
   Carsten> try something like
   Carsten>   TODO="TODO"+DEADLINE<"<+1m>"
   Carsten> as a search string

OK - promising - this looks like it may do what I want:

("h" "Home Stuff (Next)"
(
 (tags-todo "TODO=\"NEXT\"+Home+DEADLINE<\"<+1m>\"" nil)
 (tags-todo "TODO=\"NEXT\"+Home+DEADLINE=\"\"" nil)
 (tags-todo "TODO=\"NEXT\"+Home+SCHEDULED<\"<+1m>\"" nil)
 (tags-todo "TODO=\"NEXT\"+Home+SCHEDULED=\"\"" nil)

etc

I.e., find me NEXT items with the tag of Home, with a deadline within
the next month, AND find me NEXT items with the Home tag, where  
there is

no DEADLINE, AND 

But that does seem very complex. (it also feels slow).

   Carsten> HTH

It does. At least i know there is a way to do it.  The question now  
is -

is there an easier way ?


Not currently, no.  And yes, it will be slow because of accessing  
properties

(DEADLINE counts as a property in this case).

You could construct a faster way by using org-agenda-skip and looking  
for
the deadline yourself.  That might actually work quite well and  
reasonably fast.


Let me know if you need help to put this together.

- Carsten



   Carsten> - Carsten

   Carsten> P.S. Nice to know you are still around, still using Org
   Carsten> ... :-)

:-)

I haven't stopped using org-mode - it is the lubricant which oils the
wheels of my life.  I have just reduced the time I can spend reading  
and
responding to mailing list emails. :-( Still grazing on the list  
though.


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[Orgmode] Sourceforge voting has started



Hi all,

the voting for the sourceforge community choice awards has started at

http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/vote

We are up against, among others, Freemind.  Which means that we have a
formidable opponent and we need to get our mothers, grandmothers and
children out to vote, each with multiple email addresses :-)

Please go vote and spread the word.  I think it would be fantastic
if we could win,  not only for Org-mode, but also for Emacs.

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[Orgmode] Re: Orgmode for research information management

2009-06-23 Thread Chris Gray

Graham Smith wrote:

> I have used several information management tools over the years, but I
> am trying to use Emacs/orgmode more. There are many examples of people
> using Orgmode for time management type tasks, but not a lot on
> information management.

> I would be interested in any insights into  how people use orgmode for
> information management eg. gathering information for scientific paper.

For me, it works great because it is so easy to use as an outliner.  I
have also been using it to write papers.  When I do this, I use it like
a glorified LaTeX.  The real advantage there is the ability to show and
hide sections.  The only disadvantage that I have found with the LaTeX
export is that it is best to use \( and \) rather than $ to enter and
exit math mode because org has some trouble parsing the $ across line
breaks.  But that is minor, and your fingers will get used to it if you
use a lot of math.

However, I still keep all my references in a separate
database (I use the Zotero plugin for Firefox, which I export to
bibtex).

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Chris

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Re: [Orgmode] Updating repeating time stamps



On Jun 23, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Baden Markus P. (KSTA 5) wrote:


Hi,

First of all: Many thanks for org-mode!

There is a minor issue though that keeps buggin' me. I use a lot of  
repeating time stamps à la


* TODO Something
   SCHEDULED: <2009-06-23 Tue .+3d>

When I reschedule them by moving the cursor over it and hitting C-.  
the repeat information is lost (the .+3d).
Shift-up/down works perfectly though, so I wonder I one can change  
this.



No, this would not be easy.  Please just use S-cursor keys
for updating such time stamps.

- Carsten

Best regards,

Markus

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Orgmode for research information management

Chris,

Thanks, but I have a couple of more questions if that's OK

> For me, it works great because it is so easy to use as an outliner.

Do you use tags for particular linked topics or do you just rely on
the outline and drop related information into the same level of the
outline

> However, I still keep all my references in a separate
> database (I use the Zotero plugin for Firefox, which I export to
> bibtex).

Do you keep notes specific to a paper in Zotero, or keep them in Orgmode.

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Re: [Orgmode] Delimiting TeX-fragments


Hi Stefan,

this is a difficult problem, I would use

File\mbox{$\rarr$}Open

or so.  Org-mode does protect macros with an argument entirely.
However, this will not work well for HTML export - but maybe you
only need LaTeX?

- Carsten

On Jun 23, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:


Hello,

in a software documentation we want to refer to menu entries like  
this:


[menu][arrow right][menu entry]

no spaces between the text and the arrow.

(usually, we would use a syntax like
"menu:menu entry"
but this is interpreted by org as an internal link?)

We find that:

(1) File\rarrOpen
does not work: \rarr is not recognized

(2) File\rarr Open
leaves a blank space before the "Open"

(3) Datei\rarrÖffnen
works as expected - but only if \rarr is followed by a special  
character like an Umlaut


This leads to the more general question on how to deliminate a Tex- 
like fragment without "side effects". It is also important for  
inserting non-breaking space as


(4) Do\nbsp Not\nbsp Break
will not work because of the additional spaces (is there a better  
way to insert "nbsp"?).


(5) \alpha\nbsp\beta
does work as expected

Many thanks in advance,
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Re: [Orgmode] BEGIN_SRC breaks rendering of org source


Fixed, thanks.

- Carsten

On Jun 23, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:


Hello,

taking up a nice suggestion from Sebastian Rose, I want to present  
some org source with proper syntax highlighting. However, there is a  
problem when using "BEGIN_SRC" blocks it seems.


If one puts this org contents into a file "test.org":

* One Headline
Some Text
#+BEGIN_SRC python
print "some output"
#+END_SRC
* Another headline
More text

and renders it from another org-file with:

#+INCLUDE: "./test.org" src org

everything will be fine (beautiful, infact) up to and including the  
print-line - the rest of the org file is not rendered as source but  
interpreted.


I use
(require 'htmlize)
and maybe here is the problem?

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[Orgmode] Re: Orgmode for research information management

2009-06-23 Thread Chris Gray

Graham Smith wrote:

> Chris,

> Thanks, but I have a couple of more questions if that's OK

>> For me, it works great because it is so easy to use as an outliner.

> Do you use tags for particular linked topics or do you just rely on
> the outline and drop related information into the same level of the
> outline

So far I have been using just the outlining capabilities, but tags
sounds like a great idea -- I think I'll start doing that too. :)  Until
now, though, I mostly find the information that I am looking for with
isearch.  

>> However, I still keep all my references in a separate
>> database (I use the Zotero plugin for Firefox, which I export to
>> bibtex).

> Do you keep notes specific to a paper in Zotero, or keep them in
> Orgmode.

I keep it all in orgmode.  I am addicted to the emacs key layout, so it
is easier to do the note-taking in emacs than in Firefox.  Plus, Zotero
doesn't seem so easy to search for me.

Cheers,
Chris

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[Orgmode] Question about remeber templates

2009-06-23 Thread Cameron Horsburgh

Hi folks,

I've just tried making myself my very own org-remember template. If I
follow the example in the manual I come up with this:

,
| 
| ("* Diary entry: %?
| %^T" ?d "~/gtd/diary.org" "Diary date")
| 
`

However, when I call org-remember I get a blank buffer called
'Remember' and a message saying "org-select-remember-template: Not
enough arguments for format string"

After looking at templates that I once made via customize I came up
with this:

,
| 
| (100 "* Diary entry: %?
| %^T" "~/gtd/diary.org" "Diary date")
| 
`

This works perfectly. I define the shortcut character by its ASCII
number in the first field of the template, not as a ?-character combo
in the second field.

I'm guessing that the format and the manual have parted ways at some
stage!

I'm using org-mode 6.27 trans, and the manual is the same vintage.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Orgmode for research information management

Chris

> So far I have been using just the outlining capabilities, but tags
> sounds like a great idea -- I think I'll start doing that too. :)  Until
> now, though, I mostly find the information that I am looking for with
> isearch.
>
>>> However, I still keep all my references in a separate
>>> database (I use the Zotero plugin for Firefox, which I export to
>>> bibtex).
>
>> Do you keep notes specific to a paper in Zotero, or keep them in
>> Orgmode.
>
> I keep it all in orgmode.  I am addicted to the emacs key layout, so it
> is easier to do the note-taking in emacs than in Firefox.  Plus, Zotero
> doesn't seem so easy to search for me.

Thanks for the additional information. I need to think a bit more
about how to structure this.

Graham


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Re: [Orgmode] org-info.js: new navigation history

2009-06-23 Thread Xin Shi

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:

> Xin Shi  writes:
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > Hmm... I may need to wait for another release of the org-mode and the js
> > file.
>
>
> Which version of Org-mode do you use?  `M-x org-version RET'
>
>
I'm using 6.27a.


>
> > By the way, it looks the contents table in the left-bar of that page
> behaves
> > strange:
> >
> >   http://orgmode.org/Changes.html#sec-2.1.1
>
>
> Yes. It the navigation jumps up again.
>
> I saw, that the page in info mode jumps up to the headline inside the
> window. It does so, because the browser moves to the section if I change
> the location.
> The only workaround I found so far, is to hide the body, change the
> location, show the body again and do a `window.scrollTo(0,0)' which
> turns out to be sub-optimal.
> You can see the effect, if you press `m' to switch to plain view
> mode. The TOC then stays where it was before the click.
>
> Hm - now as I write this... maybe it helps to just hide hide the
> info-view widget... I'll figure...
>

I checked just now, looks normal again :)

>
>
>
>  Sebastian
>

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Re: [Orgmode] Question about remeber templates



On Jun 23, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Cameron Horsburgh wrote:


Hi folks,

I've just tried making myself my very own org-remember template. If I
follow the example in the manual I come up with this:

,
|
| ("* Diary entry: %?
| %^T" ?d "~/gtd/diary.org" "Diary date")
|
`


This is not how the manual advertises to make remember templates.

("My diary entry" ?d "* Diary entry: %?
| %^T" "~/gtd/diary.org" "Diary date")


would be the form in the manual.  The form you describe below
is still supported for backward compatibility.

HTH

- Carsten



However, when I call org-remember I get a blank buffer called
'Remember' and a message saying "org-select-remember-template: Not
enough arguments for format string"

After looking at templates that I once made via customize I came up
with this:

,
|
| (100 "* Diary entry: %?
| %^T" "~/gtd/diary.org" "Diary date")
|
`

This works perfectly. I define the shortcut character by its ASCII
number in the first field of the template, not as a ?-character combo
in the second field.

I'm guessing that the format and the manual have parted ways at some
stage!

I'm using org-mode 6.27 trans, and the manual is the same vintage.

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Re: [Orgmode] Question about remeber templates

2009-06-23 Thread Cameron Horsburgh

At Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:05:27 +0200,
Carsten Dominik wrote:
> 
> 
> On Jun 23, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Cameron Horsburgh wrote:
> 
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I've just tried making myself my very own org-remember template. If I
> > follow the example in the manual I come up with this:
> >
> > ,
> > |
> > | ("* Diary entry: %?
> > | %^T" ?d "~/gtd/diary.org" "Diary date")
> > |
> > `
> 
> This is not how the manual advertises to make remember templates.
> 
> ("My diary entry" ?d "* Diary entry: %?
> | %^T" "~/gtd/diary.org" "Diary date")
> 
> 
> would be the form in the manual.  The form you describe below
> is still supported for backward compatibility.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Carsten

Ah. Now I remember why I usually have a policy of not reporting bugs
until the morning after I find them. 

Sorry for the noise.

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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge voting has started

2009-06-23 Thread Rick Moynihan

2009/6/23 Carsten Dominik :
>
> Hi all,
>
> the voting for the sourceforge community choice awards has started at
>
> http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/vote
>
> We are up against, among others, Freemind.  Which means that we have a
> formidable opponent and we need to get our mothers, grandmothers and
> children out to vote, each with multiple email addresses :-)
>
> Please go vote and spread the word.  I think it would be fantastic
> if we could win,  not only for Org-mode, but also for Emacs.
>

Great news!  Just voted... and the icon looks awesome!!!

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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge voting has started

2009-06-23 Thread Nagarjuna G.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:58:00PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> the voting for the sourceforge community choice awards has started at
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/vote
> 
> We are up against, among others, Freemind.  Which means that we have a
> formidable opponent and we need to get our mothers, grandmothers and
> children out to vote, each with multiple email addresses :-)
> 
> Please go vote and spread the word.  I think it would be fantastic
> if we could win,  not only for Org-mode, but also for Emacs.
> 

done


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[Orgmode] org-plotting with date as the independent variable

2009-06-23 Thread David O'Toole

I'm having trouble with org-plotting data that is captured on certain dates
over time, like my bodyweight. My table looks like this, but the plotting
seems to be very wrong:

#+PLOT: ind:1 timefmt:"%Y-%m-%d" with:points
|   Date | Weight |
|+|
| 2008-09-26 |266 |
| 2008-10-08 |261 |
| 2008-10-16 |263 |
| 2008-10-19 |259 |
| 2009-05-20 |272 |
| 2009-06-12 |274 |
| 2009-06-23 |275 |

I've attached the incorrect image.

Also how can I plot the totals from a bunch of separate tables as the
dependent variable? Each of the tables would be like the following below:

| Time | Description| Calories |
|--++--|
| 6:00 | Whey shake, 2 scoops   |  200 |
|  | + 2 cups skim milk |  180 |
| 9:30 | 4 egg whites   |  120 |
|  | + 2 slices salami  |  200 |
|  | + 1 slice cheese   |  110 |
|  | Whey shake, 2 scoops   |  200 |
|  | + 2 cups skim milk |  180 |
|  | light yogurt   |   60 |
|  | rice cake  |   40 |
|  | + 2 tbsp peanut butter |  200 |
|--++--|
|  | TOTAL  | 1490 |
#+TBLFM: @12$3=vsum(@2$...@11$3)
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Custom docbook stylesheets.

2009-06-23 Thread Dale Smith

Baoqiu Cui  writes:

> I like %s (for stylesheets).  For %p, I guess we can use it to format a
> *set* of parameters.

Yes, that's what I meant.

>> What would be cool is a way to allow the user to *add* custom spec
>> chars to the default set. (hint hint)
>
> Will we make it *too* flexible by doing this? ;-)

Possibly.  I just want stylesheets! ;^)  If the %s option isn't
provided by default, I'd like to have a way to add it without
modifying org-docbook.el.  It makes updates easier.

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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge voting has started

2009-06-23 Thread Xin Shi

done.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Nagarjuna G.  wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:58:00PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > the voting for the sourceforge community choice awards has started at
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/vote
> >
> > We are up against, among others, Freemind.  Which means that we have a
> > formidable opponent and we need to get our mothers, grandmothers and
> > children out to vote, each with multiple email addresses :-)
> >
> > Please go vote and spread the word.  I think it would be fantastic
> > if we could win,  not only for Org-mode, but also for Emacs.
> >
>
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[Orgmode] Re: Orgmode for research information management

2009-06-23 Thread Matthew Lundin

Hi Graham,

Graham Smith  writes:

> I would be interested in any insights into  how people use orgmode for
> information management eg. gathering information for scientific paper.

Org-mode is very well suited to this purpose. I like to think of
org-mode as an outliner with the functionality of a database. Each
outline heading/subheading is a node to which all sorts of metadata can
be attached. Thus, notes can be as free-form or as structured as the
project requires. The structure can emerge as the project progresses.

When beginning a research project, I dump a lot of material into a new
org file, making heavy use of org-remember and org-protocol. I tag items
as they come in, so I know that I'll be able to find them easily later.
I also create links to relevant files (pdfs, images, etc.). And any time
I need to follow up on something, I create a todo. Indeed, todo state
changes are immensely helpful for keeping track of what I've done so
far.

My citations are located in a bibtex database; org-mode is able to
create links to individual items via org-store-link or org-remember. I
make sure to add a link to every outline heading, whether it be to a
website, a bibtex item, a file, or to some other node in the outline
(via <> or ID properties).

The beauty of org-mode is that I can organize my outline only when the
need arises. Thanks to tags, searches, and sparse trees, I can easily
find individual notes. And thanks to hyperlinks I can travel quickly to
the source of the information.

Anytime I need a more structured database, I create one within the
outline by using properties and column views. Let's say I need to keep
track of sources I've looked at an archive. I can easily create a
mini-database for the archive.

--8<---cut here---start->8---
* Some Archive
  :PROPERTIES:
  :COLUMNS:  %25ITEM %10TIMESTAMP_IA %17collection %6doc-number %18author 
%25title %10origdate %TAGS
  :END:
** An old letter  :industrialization:letters:
   :PROPERTIES:
   :collection: Personal Letters
   :doc-number:   768b
   :author:   Michael Smithson
   :origdate: 1868
   :title:Letter to brother
   :END:

Some notes about the letter here...

[2009-06-23 Tue 09:37]
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

So an individual org outline can contain numerous custom databases! The
possibilities are endless.

And, of course, at any point I can export any part of the outline to
pdf, html, ascii, etc.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Custom docbook stylesheets.

2009-06-23 Thread Dale Smith

Carsten Dominik  writes:

>>> Maybe we could have something like #+XSLT: or so to configure buffer-
>>> local setting for this variable..
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion, Carsten!  It's a little hard for me to  
>> decide
>> which way is better to specify the stylesheet: "#+XSLT" or "Local
>> Variables:".  Maybe "#+XSLT" is better?  I don't see many local
>> variables being used in Org mode...  Please advise.
>
> This is only a mater of convenience.  The #+ syntax is easier to
> set up and refresh, so I prefer it for stuff that is frequently changed.
> But you can also use file variables of course

The problem with file variables, is that they go away during
processing.  (The docbook output is done in a different buffer, so the
buffer-local variables in the org buffer are not available.)

So I vote for the #+ method.

Thanks!
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[Orgmode] Re: Orgmode for research information management

Matt


> Org-mode is very well suited to this purpose. I like to think of
> org-mode as an outliner with the functionality of a database. Each
> outline heading/subheading is a node to which all sorts of metadata can
> be attached. Thus, notes can be as free-form or as structured as the
> project requires. The structure can emerge as the project progresses.

That is all really useful and given me several things to think about,
and some thing to check out how to do. I'm just trying as far as
possible to get the structure right at the beginning.

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[Orgmode] breaking protocol (org-protocol.el)

2009-06-23 Thread savoie


Sorry for breaking protocol, I'm going out on a limb and guessing this
is where I might get some help.  


I'm looking to get the file org-protocol.el. I've looked at the worg
site at the org-protocol page, but the only direct link I can find on it
is this, http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-protocol.el, which is
dead.

Could someone point me to the correct directions for getting this
package?

Thanks in advance,
Matt


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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge voting has started

Carsten Dominik  writes:
> Hi all,
>
> the voting for the sourceforge community choice awards has started at
>
> http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/vote
>
> We are up against, among others, Freemind.  Which means that we have a
> formidable opponent and we need to get our mothers, grandmothers and
> children out to vote, each with multiple email addresses :-)
>
> Please go vote and spread the word.  I think it would be fantastic
> if we could win,  not only for Org-mode, but also for Emacs.
>
> - Carsten


DONE.

...and my relatives know what time it is :)


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[Orgmode] Re: breaking protocol (org-protocol.el)

2009-06-23 Thread Benjamin Andresen

Hey,

sav...@nsidc.org writes:

> I'm looking to get the file org-protocol.el. I've looked at the worg
> site at the org-protocol page, but the only direct link I can find on it
> is this, http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-protocol.el, which is
> dead.
>
> Could someone point me to the correct directions for getting this
> package?

It's in the git repository at lisp/org-protocol.el

You can get file by using git or using the web interface:
git clone git://repo.or.cz/org-mode.git
http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git?a=blob_plain;f=lisp/org-protocol.el;hb=HEAD

Always be aware when mixing org-release and org-git versions.

> Thanks in advance,
> Matt

br,
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[Orgmode] Problem with latest orgmode ascii export

2009-06-23 Thread Robert Goldman

Just pulled a git update this morning, and was trying to do an
org-export as ascii.  Got the following error:

(invalid-function (interblock (start end type) (save-match-data (when
(setf func (cadr (assoc type org-export-interblocks))) (funcall func
start end)

This is a function that's defined by the FLET in
org-export-blocks-preprocess.  See org-exp-blocks.el, line 184.

I'm not exactly sure what is going wrong here --- is it possible that
this requires 'cl and somehow CL is not properly available?  Or the
version of CL in my emacs (Aquamacs 1.8) is not compatible?

I'll be happy to do some debugging if someone can give me some
suggestions about what line to pursue...

thanks,
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Re: [Orgmode] Sourceforge voting has started

2009-06-23 Thread Stefan Vollmar



On 23.06.2009, at 12:58, Carsten Dominik wrote:



Hi all,

the voting for the sourceforge community choice awards has started at

http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/vote

We are up against, among others, Freemind.  Which means that we have a
formidable opponent and we need to get our mothers, grandmothers and
children out to vote, each with multiple email addresses :-)

Please go vote and spread the word.  I think it would be fantastic
if we could win,  not only for Org-mode, but also for Emacs.

- Carsten


DONE (also tried to get family, friends and colleagues to vote).

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[Orgmode] Test

2009-06-23 Thread Nicolas Girard

Please ignore. I can't seem to post to the mailing-list


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[Orgmode] Re: Orgmode for research information management

2009-06-23 Thread Eric S Fraga

Graham Smith writes:
> [...]
> That is all really useful and given me several things to think about,
> and some thing to check out how to do. I'm just trying as far as
> possible to get the structure right at the beginning.

Actually, if nothing else, I think a very appealing aspect of org-mode
is its flexibility.  Even if you have the wrong structure at the
beginning, it's really easy to fix later.  Re-organisation (moving
headlines, for instance) is trivial *and* as org-mode has the full
power of emacs and is text based, making global changes are just as
trivial.

It's this flexibility that encourages one to simply jump in and use it
and the benefits then quickly make you wonder how you got along
without it!

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[Orgmode] Re: Sourceforge voting has started

2009-06-23 Thread Rainer Stengele


Carsten Dominik schrieb:


Hi all,

the voting for the sourceforge community choice awards has started at

http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/vote

We are up against, among others, Freemind.  Which means that we have a
formidable opponent and we need to get our mothers, grandmothers and
children out to vote, each with multiple email addresses :-)

Please go vote and spread the word.  I think it would be fantastic
if we could win,  not only for Org-mode, but also for Emacs.

- Carsten


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Done ... use it at work and at home - therefore ...

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Orgmode for research information management

Eric

> It's this flexibility that encourages one to simply jump in and use it
> and the benefits then quickly make you wonder how you got along
> without it!

Strangely, when you are used to a more structured approach this makes
it difficult to start.

Graham


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[Orgmode] [ANN] org-icons.el

2009-06-23 Thread Nicolas Girard

Hi all,

a while ago, David mentionned that at least two people from the
#org-mode IRC channel would be interested in having pretty icons in
org-mode buffers. I have to confess I'm the second one :-)

After a little experimentation, I ended up with the results shown in
these screenshots [1] [2].

The code can be found on github [3]. Currently, it is not based
on overlays, like David's linkd.el, but on display properties. It is
still unclear which of the approach is the best, but as David
offered his help and is by far more skilled in elisp than I,
hopefully these kind of implementation details will be solved
quickly and the code will become actually useable.

As for the icons, I make them from scratch using Inkscape and the
Tango [4] colour palette.

So, what do you think ? Is this a direction you'd want org-mode
to go ? Please, share your feedback & suggestions !

Also, I was thinking that putting such kind of screenshots in org-mode's
website could make us gain a little more votes...

Cheers,
Nicolas

[1]
http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/blob/20ab287cd6ab5a5bb3fc8dfc6524f3dd1ab29b2e/example/screenshot1.png
[2]
http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/blob/20ab287cd6ab5a5bb3fc8dfc6524f3dd1ab29b2e/example/screenshot2.png
[3] http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/tree/master
[4] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines

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[Orgmode] org-protocol and safari

2009-06-23 Thread Greg Newman

I searched the list and saw that someone else asked this already with no
reply.  Well, Chris replied but didn't solve my problem.
Questions:
1.  Has anyone gotten org-protocol working with Safari?  I'm not a firefox
user and would prefer not to switch.

I did try to get it working with Firefox 3.x and it's not working.
I followed the worg instructions (
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php ) for FF and tried the
verification links with no luck.
Firefox just screams at me "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address,
because the protocol (org-protocol) isn't associated with any program."
2.  Any clue why this isn't working?

Thanks guys!


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[Orgmode] indent list item and change list type automatically

2009-06-23 Thread Rainer Stengele


Hi all,

using org-mode for quite some time now I always look at operations (key 
sequences) I repeat a lot of times.


A lot of times I start a list with an item and immediately indent the 
next item as subitem.


From

- item 1
- subitem 11

I go to

- item 1
  - subitem 11

via "M-right". Then I always want to change the style of the subitem 
list to "*". I do this via "S-right-right".


I wonder how others work. I would like to automatically have changed the 
subitem list type to "*" as soon as I indent via "Alt-right". Next 
indentation should go back to "-". etc.


Maybe we could introduce a variable that sets the order of standard list 
item types, in my case: "- * - * - * - *" as in



- item 1
  * subitem 11
- subitem 111
  * subitem 111
...

very special I know but I try to reduce the keypressings as much as 
possible. Any other suggestions?



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Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] org-icons.el

2009-06-23 Thread Xin Shi

Hi Nicolas,

That looks impressive!  Especially the colors for different meanings.

Xin


On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Nicolas Girard wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> a while ago, David mentionned that at least two people from the
> #org-mode IRC channel would be interested in having pretty icons in
> org-mode buffers. I have to confess I'm the second one :-)
>
> After a little experimentation, I ended up with the results shown in
> these screenshots [1] [2].
>
> The code can be found on github [3]. Currently, it is not based
> on overlays, like David's linkd.el, but on display properties. It is
> still unclear which of the approach is the best, but as David
> offered his help and is by far more skilled in elisp than I,
> hopefully these kind of implementation details will be solved
> quickly and the code will become actually useable.
>
> As for the icons, I make them from scratch using Inkscape and the
> Tango [4] colour palette.
>
> So, what do you think ? Is this a direction you'd want org-mode
> to go ? Please, share your feedback & suggestions !
>
> Also, I was thinking that putting such kind of screenshots in org-mode's
> website could make us gain a little more votes...
>
> Cheers,
> Nicolas
>
> [1]
> http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/blob/20ab287cd6ab5a5bb3fc8dfc6524f3dd1ab29b2e/example/screenshot1.png
> [2]
> http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/blob/20ab287cd6ab5a5bb3fc8dfc6524f3dd1ab29b2e/example/screenshot2.png
> [3] http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/tree/master
> [4] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines
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[Orgmode] Show tag or property in clock table?

2009-06-23 Thread Nathan Neff

Hi,

I've looked throughout the documentation and can't find a way to
print a property or tag in a clock table.

What I'm looking for is something like this:


Ticket #  | Description | Time
400 | did something | 1:00|
401 | Total Time  | 5:00 |
401 | did something else ||2:00
401 | did another thing||3:00

It seems like the default clock table report that you get in
agenda-mode by pressing "R"
is very close to what I'm looking for.

The default clock table in the latest git version of org-mode looks like this:

File   | L | headline | Time | Sub-level time
myfile.org | 1 | somethign | 1:00 |  |

If I can set some property on a sub-tree to perhaps replace
"myfile.org" with some
property or tag, I think that would work fine for what I'm trying to
do.  The report could still
group/sum by top-level tree heading.

Maybe I should just use "400" or "401" etc for my headlines, but
they're not very informative,
and really belong as meta-data.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
--Nate


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Re: [Orgmode] breaking protocol (org-protocol.el)

sav...@nsidc.org writes:
> I'm looking to get the file org-protocol.el. I've looked at the worg
> site at the org-protocol page, but the only direct link I can find on it
> is this, http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-protocol.el, which is

Sorry. That was not meant as a link to org-protocol.el - a typo.

Fixed now.

   Sebastian

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: breaking protocol (org-protocol.el)

Benjamin Andresen  writes:
> It's in the git repository at lisp/org-protocol.el

means it comes with the current Org-mode versions. No need to load
anything extra.


Regards

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Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] org-icons.el

2009-06-23 Thread Bastien

Nicolas Girard  writes:

> After a little experimentation, I ended up with the results shown in
> these screenshots [1] [2].

Actually you convinced me that icons can be nicely blended into on Org
buffer.  Would you be okay if I post these screenshots on the dedicated
Worg page (org-screenshots.org) or you prefer to post better ones later?

Thanks,

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Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] org-icons.el

2009-06-23 Thread David O'Toole

Hi everyone,

I really like Nicolas' icons, and I am developing an Emacs color-theme that
coordinates with them (screenshots soon!) I've also agreed to help out with
the code, since I wrote some similar stuff a while back.

Carsten: right now this code requires a patch to org.el, but I'm not sure
how much effect it has on other code---can you peek at the patch and see if
this icons code could be made to run on a stock org.el by integrating the
patch?

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Nicolas Girard wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> a while ago, David mentionned that at least two people from the
> #org-mode IRC channel would be interested in having pretty icons in
> org-mode buffers. I have to confess I'm the second one :-)
>
> After a little experimentation, I ended up with the results shown in
> these screenshots [1] [2].
>
> The code can be found on github [3]. Currently, it is not based
> on overlays, like David's linkd.el, but on display properties. It is
> still unclear which of the approach is the best, but as David
> offered his help and is by far more skilled in elisp than I,
> hopefully these kind of implementation details will be solved
> quickly and the code will become actually useable.
>
> As for the icons, I make them from scratch using Inkscape and the
> Tango [4] colour palette.
>
> So, what do you think ? Is this a direction you'd want org-mode
> to go ? Please, share your feedback & suggestions !
>
> Also, I was thinking that putting such kind of screenshots in org-mode's
> website could make us gain a little more votes...
>
> Cheers,
> Nicolas
>
> [1]
> http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/blob/20ab287cd6ab5a5bb3fc8dfc6524f3dd1ab29b2e/example/screenshot1.png
> [2]
> http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/blob/20ab287cd6ab5a5bb3fc8dfc6524f3dd1ab29b2e/example/screenshot2.png
> [3] http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/tree/master
> [4] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines
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Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] org-icons.el

2009-06-23 Thread Nicolas Girard

2009/6/24 Bastien 

> Nicolas Girard  writes:
>
> > After a little experimentation, I ended up with the results shown in
> > these screenshots [1] [2].
>
> Actually you convinced me that icons can be nicely blended into on Org
> buffer.

Now, *this* is a good news !

> Would you be okay if I post these screenshots on the dedicated
> Worg page (org-screenshots.org) or you prefer to post better ones later?

Please do whatever you want with any of the present or forthcoming
screenshots.
I don't intend to create additional icons in the next few days ; but I'll be
more than happy to produce additional screenshots on request. Just send me
the .org file.

Cheers,
Nicolas

PS: the mail server didn't allow me to attach my screenshots to my original
mail :-/
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Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] org-icons.el

2009-06-23 Thread David O'Toole

I'm sorry, the patch is in Nicolas' github repo:
http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/blob/b8be3d85b87c4fe6ce31cdc931fd1b77bb170a5c/lisp/org-icons.patch

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Bastien wrote:

> "David O'Toole"  writes:
>
> > Carsten: right now this code requires a patch to org.el, but I'm not sure
> how
> > much effect it has on other code---can you peek at the patch and see if
> this
> > icons code could be made to run on a stock org.el by integrating the
> > patch?
>
> (David, I think you forgot the patch...)
>
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[Orgmode] troubles exporting latex..

2009-06-23 Thread sergio_101



i have just updated to a new machine, and i am having a new problem  
exporting to latex..


i am currently on:
osx: 10.5.7
carbon emacs: GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.6.0, Carbon Version  
1.6.0)

org-mode: 6.27a

this emacs came with a version 5.23a(i think that's what it was)  
installed. but i can't seem to find where it was..


when i try to export to latex, i get the following:

Exporting to LaTeX...
org-export-latex-first-lines: Symbol's function definition is void:  
org-cleaned-string-for-export

Symbol's function definition is void: org-cleaned-string-for-export

i saw a message from carsten earlier that said:

this must mean that you are using an outdated version of org-export-
latex.el with a new version of org-exp.el.  You need to make sure
that your complete installation is up to date.

but i am not sure where else to check on this.

any help would be appreciated..

thanks!



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Orgmode for research information management

Graham Smith  writes:
> Strangely, when you are used to a more structured approach this makes
> it difficult to start.

I'd propose to start by partitioning _what_ you actually need to store
on your disk.

This is what I do:

* The `org-directory'

  The default is ~/org/ and you could simply live with that default for
  a while. Changing that later on is easy, as long as most of the
  targets for your remember templates live there (the org-directory is
  search if just a filename is supplied for a certain template). Just
  `mv' the directory and adjust `org-directory'. So no need to worry
  here.

  The main purpose of the org-directory is to find files without hassle:

* agenda files (I use an extra sub directory for those)
* Remember targets

  I use pretty much the Org-modes defaults for fast note taking
  (remember) and agenda stuff. Also, it makes sense to store all agenda
  stuff and notes you want to keep below one directory for easy backup
  and restore, or synching with your notebook(s).

*** Agenda files

My org-directory has a subdirectory where I store all my agenda
files, regardless of project. I have a file for each customer I work
for over a longer period and a private `organizer.org'. Some of
those files grew very big during the last two years, but that's
absolutely no problem, neither for Org-mode, nor for me. But it
makes it soo easy to find stuff again. I just press `C-c ,'
repeatedly until the correct file is on screen.

For each customer I created a remember template to record new tasks
on the fly (e.g. phone calls).

Some customers have a somewhat limited `lifetime' in my agenda (one
project and that's it). Those agenda files are simply removed from
the list of agenda files: `C-c ]'

Short projects were the reason to leave all agenda files in the
org-directory. I remove old projects from my file system from time
to time (their all in my repo anyway). But I still can refer to the
project plan if neccessary.

*** General note taking

As quick notes go to files in my org-directory, it's natural to have
a file tree beneeth it, where I sort stuff away that is of more
general nature - i.e. not related to special project or
customer. Refiling is very easy, so it turns out that two or three
files for such notes are sufficient in my case.

After a while I file my quick notes away. For that purpos my
org-directory has a sub-folder (a tree actually). That tree is for
notes I want to keep locally. I publish those notes locally to HTML
for browsing. The published content is awailable in our local
network here. That's why I have that subtree. Particular private
notes may still live in my org-directory.

* Projects

  Here it comes: I use no special concept for Projects. That's the
  beauty of using emacs and Org-mode:

  They adjust to what you wanna do. Just keep the structure you're
  already working with.

  If you need to create a LaTeX file for your project, just start from
  an Org-file. Org-mode is with you if your an emacs user, so why worry?

  I found, that Org-mode does not really add any extras to my project
  directories. All that it changes is the way that stuff is added. No
  extra software that eats up my memory, makes me wait to start up, or
  drives my crazy.

  Links to source files I work on are sometimes stored next to the TODO
  entries in the agenda files. That way I can go the source file in
  question at a later date just by clicking a link.

May the Emacs Org-mode be with you!

Best wishes

   Sebastian

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[Orgmode] Re: Problem with latest orgmode ascii export

2009-06-23 Thread Bernt Hansen

Robert Goldman  writes:

> Just pulled a git update this morning, and was trying to do an
> org-export as ascii.  Got the following error:
>
> (invalid-function (interblock (start end type) (save-match-data (when
> (setf func (cadr (assoc type org-export-interblocks))) (funcall func
> start end)
>
> This is a function that's defined by the FLET in
> org-export-blocks-preprocess.  See org-exp-blocks.el, line 184.
>
> I'm not exactly sure what is going wrong here --- is it possible that
> this requires 'cl and somehow CL is not properly available?  Or the
> version of CL in my emacs (Aquamacs 1.8) is not compatible?
>
> I'll be happy to do some debugging if someone can give me some
> suggestions about what line to pursue...

I've run into this twice too -- restarting Emacs made it magically go
away for me.  I was exporting to HTML.

-Bernt


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Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] org-icons.el

2009-06-23 Thread Bastien

Nicolas Girard  writes:

> Now, *this* is a good news !
>  
>
> Would you be okay if I post these screenshots on the dedicated
> Worg page (org-screenshots.org) or you prefer to post better ones later?
>
> Please do whatever you want with any of the present or forthcoming 
> screenshots.
> I don't intend to create additional icons in the next few days ; but I'll be
> more than happy to produce additional screenshots on request. Just send me the
> .org file.

Great - I pushed a change on Worg adding those screenshots.

> PS: the mail server didn't allow me to attach my screenshots to my original
> mail :-/

Yes, better only link them to limit bandwidth usage...

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Orgmode for research information management

Sebastian,

Thanks for this.


> I'd propose to start by partitioning _what_ you actually need to store
> on your disk.
>
> This is what I do:

Actually, I already do something similar to you now as a general PIM,
I was really looking for some tips specifically related to management
of information for a research, but it seems that the point that you
and others are making is that the flexibility of Emacs/orgmode means
you don't particularly need a strong plan.

Graham


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Re: [Orgmode] org-protocol and safari

Greg Newman  writes:
> I searched the list and saw that someone else asked this already with no
> reply.  Well, Chris replied but didn't solve my problem.
> Questions:
> 1.  Has anyone gotten org-protocol working with Safari?  I'm not a firefox
> user and would prefer not to switch.
>
> I did try to get it working with Firefox 3.x and it's not working.
> I followed the worg instructions (
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php ) for FF and tried the
> verification links with no luck.
> Firefox just screams at me "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address,
> because the protocol (org-protocol) isn't associated with any program."
> 2.  Any clue why this isn't working?

As for FF, the instructions should work. See also:

   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol#Linux_and_Mac

As for Safari - I fear you use a MAC?
You _must_ use a MAC.
I know the windows version of Safari and you would change immediatly. I
know it runs fine on MAC though.

On a first glance, I found this on the net:

http://mac.clauss-net.de/misfox/
http://www.rubicode.com/Software/RCDefaultApp/

Best wishes

   Sebastian

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[Orgmode] Add a badge to your website to support voting for Org-mode at SCCA09

2009-06-23 Thread Bastien

Hi all,

this small snippet of html inserts a badge to make it easy for
everyone to vote for org-mode:


http://sf.net/community/cca09/vote/?f=401";>
  http://sf.net/awards/cca/badge_img.php?f=401";>


Here is an example of how it looks like:

  http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/bastien-org-mode.php

Spread the world!  

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[Orgmode] Re: Sourceforge voting has started

2009-06-23 Thread Sivaram Neelakantan


Done.

sivaram
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