Re: [O] org-jira.el... and Org conventions (Bastien, Carsten and all)
Hi Bao, Bao Haojun wrote: I have implemented org-jira.el, bringing org-mode and Jira system together. Wrote a Wiki page for it on emacswiki: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgJiraMode Hope somebody find it useful, if he/she is also using Jira and loves org-mode. I had never heard of Jira, but your work definitely looks very promising. IMHO, it should be compared with org-x and its extension to Redmine, among others. But this triggers, for me, another concern which is the very wide variety of ways to define the same thing. Let's just take how we represent who's gonna be assigned a task: - In most examples we see on the Net (or in the Org manual), people use tags with person names (or abbreviations). - In your case, you mirror what's done in Jira (I guess) and you introduce a property Assignee. - In Org issues (http://orgmode.org/worg/org-issues.html), some tasks are given a property Who to indicate who has to work on them. - In tasks used for interacting with TaskJuggler, one uses a Resource-Id property. - Still another approach is used by Juan Reyero in his advertised Org-mode tricks for team management (see [1]), using a combination of TODO todo keywords for his own tasks, and TASK keywords for tasks assigned to members of his team. All of this makes it hard to have one independent Org file, and be able to cooperate with external tools (like Jira, Redmine, TaskJuggler and others) on a on demand approach. You want a Gantt chart? You need to add (or rename) Resource-Id properties. Now, you would like a Web-based Bug Tracking system? Too bad: you need to add (or rename) properties Assignee or ... So, my point is: wouldn't it be better if we proposed standard properties in Org (in the manual), and implemented mappings in the Org integration packages (org-jira, org-taskjuggler, org-redmine and the like)? So, say for example that, from now on, it's more standard in Org to use Assignee (or anything else) for representing who's assigned a task, and have every package map the property Assignee to whatever keyword used in external tools for representing that concept? If we do such, - we _do not impose anything_ (everybody is still free to represent this task the way he wants, be it properties or tags) - we ensure an easy transition to use any external tool for those that used the to be defined standard properties. Best regards, Seb Footnotes: [1] http://juanreyero.com/article/emacs/org-teams.html -- Sebastien Vauban
[O] Release 7.8.03
Dear all, I'm releasing 7.8.03. This release is just a bugfix release, fixing bugs found since 7.8.02. It does not contain new features added since then. http://orgmode.org/org-7.8.03.zip http://orgmode.org/org-7.8.03.tar.gz Enjoy, -- Bastien
Re: [O] Location of OpenDocument style files should be configurable
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012, Jambunathan K wrote: BTW, maybe one could think about supporting DESTDIR? That should be trivial to implement, simply prepend $(DESTDIR) to all destination paths in the install-* make targets. I can prepare a patch if this is wanted. http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/DESTDIR.html It would be wonderful if you could provide a patch (and a usage note). Included below. ps: Makefiles are beyond my jurisdiction. I will let Bastien act on your patch(es). Looks like my earlier patch hasn't been applied for 7.8.03. :( Cheers, Ulrich From 274fc9a41d7e573bc67a85ffad046ca163dc6452 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Ulrich=20M=C3=BCller?= u...@gentoo.org Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:00:38 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Support DESTDIR in Makefile. --- Makefile | 19 +++ 1 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile index 642b21f..b6ad567 100644 --- a/Makefile +++ b/Makefile @@ -253,18 +253,21 @@ g: lisp/org-odt.elc: BATCH_EXTRA = -eval (setq org-odt-data-dir (expand-file-name \$(datadir)\)) install-lisp: $(LISPFILES) $(ELCFILES) - if [ ! -d $(lispdir) ]; then $(MKDIR) $(lispdir); else true; fi ; - $(CP) $(LISPFILES) $(lispdir) - $(CP) $(ELCFILES) $(lispdir) + if [ ! -d $(DESTDIR)$(lispdir) ]; then \ + $(MKDIR) $(DESTDIR)$(lispdir); else true; fi ; + $(CP) $(LISPFILES) $(DESTDIR)$(lispdir) + $(CP) $(ELCFILES) $(DESTDIR)$(lispdir) install-info: $(INFOFILES) - if [ ! -d $(infodir) ]; then $(MKDIR) $(infodir); else true; fi ; - $(CP) $(INFOFILES) $(infodir) - $(INSTALL_INFO) --infodir=$(infodir) $(INFOFILES) + if [ ! -d $(DESTDIR)$(infodir) ]; then \ + $(MKDIR) $(DESTDIR)$(infodir); else true; fi ; + $(CP) $(INFOFILES) $(DESTDIR)$(infodir) + $(INSTALL_INFO) --infodir=$(DESTDIR)$(infodir) $(INFOFILES) install-data: $(DATAFILES) - if [ ! -d $(datadir) ]; then $(MKDIR) $(datadir); else true; fi ; - $(CP) $(DATAFILES) $(datadir) + if [ ! -d $(DESTDIR)$(datadir) ]; then \ + $(MKDIR) $(DESTDIR)$(datadir); else true; fi ; + $(CP) $(DATAFILES) $(DESTDIR)$(datadir) autoloads: lisp/org-install.el -- 1.7.8.2
Re: [O] [Orgmode] configuring org-export-latex-classes
http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode@gnu.org/msg21593.html im trying to set up ditaa on my cygwin/windows7 machine and encountered the very same problem as described in the above mentioned mail, i.e. the error jar not accessible. i tried to fix it by hacking org-exp-blocks, but it does not seem to make any difference. when i check the *Messages* buffer, the path to ditaa.jar is unchanged. If anyone has this one figured out, i would appreciate your help.
Re: [O] Problem with noweb-ref property
Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com writes: However correct performance is more important than fast performance. I've just pushed up a patch which fixes the bug you've described, and hopefully doesn't slow down the tangling process too significantly. Hi Eric, unfortunately, for me it does result in a considerably slow down. (Well, I did not bisect this time but still suspect the commit you mention in this thread.) As a test case you can still use http://pastebin.com/c42jS1Be from my last post on this matter and expand the first source block. Sorry to ask again: Would it be possible to speed things up again or to make the :noweb-ref feature optional? Hi Andreas, I've just pushed up a new variable to the git repository. To enable the faster regexp-based method of noweb expansion (which is not able to resolve noweb-ref header arguments inherited from sub-tree or file-wide properties) put the following in your config. (setq *org-babel-use-quick-and-dirty-noweb-expansion* t) Best, Hi Eric, thanks for this quick-and-dirty fix ;-) Works great! Cheers, Andreas
Re: [O] Location of OpenDocument style files should be configurable
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012, Achim Gratz wrote: Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: (org-odt-styles-dir-list, org-odt-schema-dir-list): New variables. Pay specific attention to (eval-when-compile ...) form through which Makefile's $(datadir) - contained in `org-odt-data-dir' - gets compiled in as a hard coded constant. I don't understand the need for compile-time evaluation. In any case it would be nice to avoid it. It's somewhat fragile, because the program will behave differently depending if the .el or the .elc file is loaded. Therefore I think that embedding the variable in org-install.el (as in commit 67e92cf in your fork) is preferable. Cheers, Ulrich
Re: [O] Location of OpenDocument style files should be configurable
Hi Ulrich, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org writes: ps: Makefiles are beyond my jurisdiction. I will let Bastien act on your patch(es). Looks like my earlier patch hasn't been applied for 7.8.03. :( Yes -- things are not entirely clear to me in this area, and the ongoing discussion between you, Achim and Jambunathan feels like we need to move carefully. This will be part of the next bugfix or major release. -- Bastien
Re: [O] Location of OpenDocument style files should be configurable
Hi Ulrich, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org writes: It would be wonderful if you could provide a patch (and a usage note). Included below. Please add more explanations in such patches -- Jambunathan's explanations are a model of clarity and detailfulness. Thanks! -- Bastien
Re: [O] [Orgmode] configuring org-export-latex-classes
okay, nevermind, i figured it out myself. need to hack ob-ditaa.el: look for the line (cmd (concat java and insert your cygwin path (e.g. c:/cygwin) just before shell-quote-argument, org-babel-process-file-name in-file and org-babel-process-file-name out-file, so that it will look like this: (cmd (concat java java -jar c:/cygwin (shell-quote-argument (expand-file-name org-ditaa-jar-path)) cmdline c:/cygwin (org-babel-process-file-name in-file) c:/cygwin (org-babel-process-file-name out-file hopefully this will help someone. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Waldemar Reusch waldemar.reu...@googlemail.com wrote: http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode@gnu.org/msg21593.html im trying to set up ditaa on my cygwin/windows7 machine and encountered the very same problem as described in the above mentioned mail, i.e. the error jar not accessible. i tried to fix it by hacking org-exp-blocks, but it does not seem to make any difference. when i check the *Messages* buffer, the path to ditaa.jar is unchanged. If anyone has this one figured out, i would appreciate your help.
Re: [O] Color agenda items
Hi Bastien, Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Hi Max, Maximilian Matthe maxi.mat...@googlemail.com writes: I've imported school holidays from .ics into my org-mode setup. They do show up in the agenda. I would like to have a special color for all holiday entries in the agenda. Maybe I can add this in the PROPERTIES-Drawer? I don't think so. How are you adding your .ics data into your Agenda? I downloaded the .ics-file and converted into an org-file with ics2org from Eric S. Fraga. I attach the resulting org-file. That file is then added into the agenda by adding it into my list of org-files (C-c [ or sth. ). And another related question: Is it possible to give the start and end of a date (e.g. holidays) a different color than the intermediate days? Nope, sorry. Hm... too bad. Maybe one can add a property like :FONTSTYLE: where one can define how the item look like in the agenda? Regards, Max ferien.org Description: Binary data
Re: [O] Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
Am 02.01.2012 19:53, schrieb Bastien: Hi Rainer, Rainer Stengelerainer.steng...@online.de writes: Having *** Headline :LOGBOOK: - point is at the end of the headline - moving one line down I am at the end of the LOGBOOK line There I cannot open the folded LOGBOOK block withTAB. I have to move point one character back in order to unfold it withTAB. After that I can no more reach the end of this line like before, where I could not unfold withTAB. Is this intended? No. This is fixed now. Thanks, Hi Bastien, I just pulled and checked but cannot see a change. Did you check in the fix already? Thanks! Rainer
Re: [O] org-jira.el
This will be very handy. Thanks, marc On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Bao Haojun baohao...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all I have implemented org-jira.el, bringing org-mode and Jira system together. Wrote a Wiki page for it on emacswiki: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgJiraMode Hope somebody find it useful, if he/she is also using Jira and loves org-mode. -- Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. --Albert Camus The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. --Margaret Thatcher Do the arithmetic or be doomed to talk nonsense. --John McCarthy
Re: [O] Location of OpenDocument style files should be configurable
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012, Bastien wrote: It would be wonderful if you could provide a patch (and a usage note). Included below. Please add more explanations in such patches -- Jambunathan's explanations are a model of clarity and detailfulness. Sorry. Please find an updated patch below. Cheers, Ulrich From 9af8ea97022e23231395046bcfbf5f1e71ac5f59 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Ulrich=20M=C3=BCller?= u...@gentoo.org Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:00:38 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Support DESTDIR in Makefile. From the GNU coding standards: `DESTDIR' is a variable prepended to each installed target file. [...] This provides for staged installs, where the installed files are not placed directly into their expected location but are instead copied into a temporary location (`DESTDIR'). However, installed files maintain their relative directory structure and any embedded file names will not be modified. --- Makefile | 22 ++ 1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile index 642b21f..4f06c4e 100644 --- a/Makefile +++ b/Makefile @@ -27,6 +27,9 @@ datadir = $(prefix)/share/emacs/etc # Where info files go infodir = $(prefix)/share/info +# Alternate destination root directory for staged installs +DESTDIR = + ##-- ## YOU MAY NEED TO EDIT THESE ##-- @@ -253,18 +256,21 @@ g: lisp/org-odt.elc: BATCH_EXTRA = -eval (setq org-odt-data-dir (expand-file-name \$(datadir)\)) install-lisp: $(LISPFILES) $(ELCFILES) - if [ ! -d $(lispdir) ]; then $(MKDIR) $(lispdir); else true; fi ; - $(CP) $(LISPFILES) $(lispdir) - $(CP) $(ELCFILES) $(lispdir) + if [ ! -d $(DESTDIR)$(lispdir) ]; then \ + $(MKDIR) $(DESTDIR)$(lispdir); else true; fi ; + $(CP) $(LISPFILES) $(DESTDIR)$(lispdir) + $(CP) $(ELCFILES) $(DESTDIR)$(lispdir) install-info: $(INFOFILES) - if [ ! -d $(infodir) ]; then $(MKDIR) $(infodir); else true; fi ; - $(CP) $(INFOFILES) $(infodir) - $(INSTALL_INFO) --infodir=$(infodir) $(INFOFILES) + if [ ! -d $(DESTDIR)$(infodir) ]; then \ + $(MKDIR) $(DESTDIR)$(infodir); else true; fi ; + $(CP) $(INFOFILES) $(DESTDIR)$(infodir) + $(INSTALL_INFO) --infodir=$(DESTDIR)$(infodir) $(INFOFILES) install-data: $(DATAFILES) - if [ ! -d $(datadir) ]; then $(MKDIR) $(datadir); else true; fi ; - $(CP) $(DATAFILES) $(datadir) + if [ ! -d $(DESTDIR)$(datadir) ]; then \ + $(MKDIR) $(DESTDIR)$(datadir); else true; fi ; + $(CP) $(DATAFILES) $(DESTDIR)$(datadir) autoloads: lisp/org-install.el -- 1.7.8.2
[O] Excluding folders in org-publish with :exclude regexp. Not working. Fix?
Hello, I need to exclude some folders when publishing to html via an org-publish project definition. I create the project's alist as explained in the doc. For example, the beginning of my org-publish-project-alist looks like this: ((org :base-directory /Users/iani/org/ :publishing-directory /Users/iani/org/html/ :base-extension org :exclude config.org ;; etc. ) ;; etc ) The above project org excludes all files named config.org. HOWEVER: If I try to enter any directory path in the :exclude regexp, it does not work. I tried all sorts of combinations such as: -- The entire directory path: /Users/iani/org/subproj1/ -- Wildcard: /Users/iani/org/subproj1/* -- Another wildcard: /Users/iani/org/subproj1/*.org -- Even another wildcard: .*/config\\.org$ (just for testing, this should exclude all config.org files again. It seems that excluding directories, or including part of the path besides the filename itself in the exclude property does not work. I see a possibly related comment in function org-publish-get-base-files: (org-publish-get-base-files-1 base-dir recurse match ;; FIXME distinguish exclude regexp ;; for skip-file and skip-dir? exclude-regexp exclude-regexp) I also had a look at the relevant function definition: (defun org-publish-get-base-files-1 (... But before spending some time trying to fix this I would like to ask if there is some other provision for excluding directories in org-publish which I am not aware of. Many thanks in advance, Iannis Zannos
Re: [O] Location of OpenDocument style files should be configurable
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012, Bastien wrote: ps: Makefiles are beyond my jurisdiction. I will let Bastien act on your patch(es). Looks like my earlier patch hasn't been applied for 7.8.03. :( Yes -- things are not entirely clear to me in this area, and the ongoing discussion between you, Achim and Jambunathan feels like we need to move carefully. To summarise as I see the issue: - Because arbitrary paths for datadir can be specified at compile time, any approach using (only) heuristic searches at run time is bound to fail in some configurations. - Most other packages using such heuristics provide a way for overriding it. The simplest way is just using defvar or defcustom (but not a defconst) for the variable definition. (This was my original suggestion, which would have been trivial to implement.) - However, if the location is known at compile time, there is also no need for such searches, because the datadir path can be embedded in the lisp code. - Preferably, the package should behave the same, regardless if it is loaded as elisp sources or as byte-compiled files. Embedding the path only in the byte code may be too fragile (in fact, for 7.8.03 it currently fails with Gentoo's staged installs), and also lead to surprising behaviour. - Therefore I think the best approach would be either to record such paths in org-install.el (as Achim has suggested), or to have the Makefile create a new file like org-paths.el for this purpose. Cheers, Ulrich
Re: [O] The reportmode report does not count the running clock
Hello, everybody. Let me wish you all that the Year Started Well, and will continue that way all along! Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On 13.12.2011, at 16:30, Bernt Hansen wrote: (setq org-clock-report-include-clocking-task t) It isn't [referred to in the Org mode manual]? Oops. I'll prepare a patch for this. Note that there is a million variables which are not referred to in the manual - simply too many to mention them all. A million? You *always* exaggerate! :-) It might be useful to mentions this one, otherwise I would urge restraint. A good way to find unknown variables is described here: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-customize.html The manual should be reference, and should mention all variables. A textual search in the manual should yield anything worth finding. However nicely and carefully the customization has been organized, one should ideally not have to guess and retry customize branches in hope of finding something, or peruse the sources, after having tried the manual. Do not misread me, I'm not at all saying that there is something wrong with the customization, or the availability of the sources! :-) Maybe an appendix to the manual could be mechanically generated out of all customization information, with some Makefile/Emacs machinery for keeping it up-to-date? Easier said than done, I know... But I would like at least to throw the idea in the field. François
Re: [O] org-jira.el... and Org conventions (Bastien, Carsten and all)
Hi Sebastien, Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes: Hi Bao, Bao Haojun wrote: I have implemented org-jira.el, bringing org-mode and Jira system together. Wrote a Wiki page for it on emacswiki: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgJiraMode Hope somebody find it useful, if he/she is also using Jira and loves org-mode. I had never heard of Jira, but your work definitely looks very promising. IMHO, it should be compared with org-x and its extension to Redmine, among others. Thanks for the praise! Jira is a commercial issue tracker, but it also seems to be OSS friendly (by allowing OSS community to use the software for free; Apache is using it, see http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheJira). Likewise I had not heard of org-x and Redmine, thanks for letting me know. But this triggers, for me, another concern which is the very wide variety of ways to define the same thing. ... So, my point is: wouldn't it be better if we proposed standard properties in Org (in the manual), and implemented mappings in the Org integration packages (org-jira, org-taskjuggler, org-redmine and the like)? So, say for example that, from now on, it's more standard in Org to use Assignee (or anything else) for representing who's assigned a task, and have every package map the property Assignee to whatever keyword used in external tools for representing that concept? I can see your point, that standard thing is good, if it's already here, I will definitely try comply to them. But your worrying people need to transition from one system such as org-jira to another such as org-x, I think they are not very often. Because if it happens, it would mean that the COMPANY/COMMUNITY has decided to switch from Jira to Redmine, can you imagine how often that can be? Besides, even if that really happens, it would also mean the COMPANY/COMMUNITY has got a way to transition from Jira to Redmine, so there would have already been a way to transit from org-jira to org-x: org-jira - Jira - Redmine - org-x (and vice versa). So my point is, if someone try to make transition easy, they should do it on the company level, such as from Jira to Redmine. Org mode feels kind of personal to me, and I feel good enough to be able to sync between company issue tracking system and my org-mode, no need for it to be able to transit to another issue tracking system's org-mode. Best Regards, Bao Haojun
Re: [O] org-jira.el... and Org conventions (Bastien, Carsten and all)
Hi Bao, Bao Haojun wrote: Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes: Bao Haojun wrote: I have implemented org-jira.el, bringing org-mode and Jira system together. Wrote a Wiki page for it on emacswiki: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgJiraMode Hope somebody find it useful, if he/she is also using Jira and loves org-mode. I had never heard of Jira, but your work definitely looks very promising. IMHO, it should be compared with org-x and its extension to Redmine, among others. Thanks for the praise! Jira is a commercial issue tracker, but it also seems to be OSS friendly (by allowing OSS community to use the software for free; Apache is using it, see http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheJira). Likewise I had not heard of org-x and Redmine, thanks for letting me know. But this triggers, for me, another concern which is the very wide variety of ways to define the same thing. So, my point is: wouldn't it be better if we proposed standard properties in Org (in the manual), and implemented mappings in the Org integration packages (org-jira, org-taskjuggler, org-redmine and the like)? So, say for example that, from now on, it's more standard in Org to use Assignee (or anything else) for representing who's assigned a task, and have every package map the property Assignee to whatever keyword used in external tools for representing that concept? I can see your point, that standard thing is good, if it's already here, I will definitely try comply to them. Thanks for your proposition. I will let others express their own meaning, but, seeing your answer, I wanted to recalibrate what I expressed. But your worrying people need to transition from one system such as org-jira to another such as org-x, I think they are not very often. Because if it happens, it would mean that the COMPANY/COMMUNITY has decided to switch from Jira to Redmine, can you imagine how often that can be? Besides, even if that really happens, it would also mean the COMPANY/COMMUNITY has got a way to transition from Jira to Redmine, so there would have already been a way to transit from org-jira to org-x: org-jira - Jira - Redmine - org-x (and vice versa). So my point is, if someone try to make transition easy, they should do it on the company level, such as from Jira to Redmine. Org mode feels kind of personal to me, and I feel good enough to be able to sync between company issue tracking system and my org-mode, no need for it to be able to transit to another issue tracking system's org-mode. You're right we could understand my proposition as being an easier way to change between bug tracking systems. But not only that. I gave the example of Task Juggler: wouldn't it be nice to be able -- at any point in time -- to generate a dependency graph through Task Juggler, while being able (at the same time, without touching anything) to get the tasks maintained in, let's say, Redmine (which does not offer a Gantt chart functionality IIRC)? So, the question is not really about switching from one system to another, but more about using 2 (or more) systems in parallel... While the former may be a rare occurrence in a project, I guess the latter is more a common wish. Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban
Re: [O] org-jira.el... and Org conventions (Bastien, Carsten and all)
On 01/03/2012 10:53 AM, Bao Haojun wrote: So my point is, if someone try to make transition easy, they should do it on the company level, such as from Jira to Redmine. Org mode feels kind of personal to me, and I feel good enough to be able to sync between company issue tracking system and my org-mode, no need for it to be able to transit to another issue tracking system's org-mode. It shouldn't be necessary for the org-mode user to learn 'How Haojun thinks about ticket systems' to use jira, and then also learn 'how [someone] thinks about ticket systems' to then use the (imagined?) TRAC integration. It should be enough to understand 'How org-mode thinks about ticket systems'. Unfortunately, in order to do this, it is necessary for org-mode to have an opinon. :) Which it doesn't, yet. - Allen S. Rout
Re: [O] [babel][bug] org-babel-balanced-split (with Emacs-22)
Martyn Jago martyn.j...@btinternet.com writes: There is a bug running babel on Emacs 22.1.1 with a minimal init file. [...] The following fails: * Test fails #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent hello there #+end_src [...] The problem appears to be associated with the way `member' works: - on Emacs 23+ the following doesn't generate an error - on Emacs 22 it generates Wrong type argument: listp, 58 #+begin_src emacs-lisp (member 116 58) #+end_src `org-babel-balanced-split' appears to rely on not generating an error when the `member' LIST parameter is actually a number. Best, Martyn
Re: [O] [babel][bug] org-babel-balanced-split (with Emacs-22)
Martyn Jago martyn.j...@btinternet.com writes: Martyn Jago martyn.j...@btinternet.com writes: There is a bug running babel on Emacs 22.1.1 with a minimal init file. [...] The following fails: * Test fails #+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent hello there #+end_src [...] The problem appears to be associated with the way `member' works: - on Emacs 23+ the following doesn't generate an error - on Emacs 22 it generates Wrong type argument: listp, 58 #+begin_src emacs-lisp (member 116 58) #+end_src `org-babel-balanced-split' appears to rely on not generating an error when the `member' LIST parameter is actually a number. Ah, I see where this comes in, does the included alternative definition of this function fix the issue on Emacs22? If so I'll apply this change to the repository. Thanks, (defun org-babel-balanced-split (string alts) Split STRING on instances of ALTS. ALTS is a cons of two character options where each option may be either the numeric code of a single character or a list of character alternatives. For example to split on balanced instances of \[ \t]:\ set ALTS to '((32 9) . 58). (flet ((matches (ch spec) (or (and (numberp spec) (= spec ch)) (not (numberp spec) (member ch spec (matched (ch last) (if (consp alts) (and (matches ch (cdr alts)) (matches last (car alts))) (matches ch alts (let ((balance 0) (quote nil) (partial nil) (lst nil) (last 0)) (mapc (lambda (ch) ; split on [], (), balanced instances of [ \t]: (setq balance (+ balance (cond ((or (equal 91 ch) (equal 40 ch)) 1) ((or (equal 93 ch) (equal 41 ch)) -1) (t 0 (when (and (equal 34 ch) (not (equal 92 last))) (setq quote (not quote))) (setq partial (cons ch partial)) (when (and (= balance 0) (not quote) (matched ch last)) (setq lst (cons (apply #'string (nreverse (if (consp alts) (cddr partial) (cdr partial lst)) (setq partial nil)) (setq last ch)) (string-to-list string)) (nreverse (cons (apply #'string (nreverse partial)) lst) Best, Martyn -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
Re: [O] Please test the new Makefile
Rebased to 7.8.03. Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: I'm uncertain about the integration of the ODT exporter (although it works on my machine): it seems that the schema files should reside in etc/schema (and ETCDIR should include schema on install)? I went ahead and moved the schema dir from contrib to etc and adapted the Makefile to install it. Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ SD adaptation for Waldorf rackAttack V1.04R1: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada
Re: [O] [babel][bug] org-babel-balanced-split (with Emacs-22)
Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com writes: Martyn Jago martyn.j...@btinternet.com writes: Martyn Jago martyn.j...@btinternet.com writes: [...] The problem appears to be associated with the way `member' works: - on Emacs 23+ the following doesn't generate an error - on Emacs 22 it generates Wrong type argument: listp, 58 #+begin_src emacs-lisp (member 116 58) #+end_src `org-babel-balanced-split' appears to rely on not generating an error when the `member' LIST parameter is actually a number. Ah, I see where this comes in, does the included alternative definition of this function fix the issue on Emacs22? If so I'll apply this change to the repository. Thanks, (defun org-babel-balanced-split (string alts) Split STRING on instances of ALTS. ALTS is a cons of two character options where each option may be either the numeric code of a single character or a list of character alternatives. For example to split on balanced instances of \[ \t]:\ set ALTS to '((32 9) . 58). (flet ((matches (ch spec) (or (and (numberp spec) (= spec ch)) (not (numberp spec) (member ch spec [...] Hi Eric I fixed a typo on your fix, and added a regression test, and it now works on Emacs 22. Thanks! Best, Martyn --8---cut here---start-8--- (defun org-babel-balanced-split (string alts) Split STRING on instances of ALTS. ALTS is a cons of two character options where each option may be either the numeric code of a single character or a list of character alternatives. For example to split on balanced instances of \[ \t]:\ set ALTS to '((32 9) . 58). (flet ((matches (ch spec) (or (and (numberp spec) (= spec ch)) (and (not (numberp spec)) (member ch spec (matched (ch last) (if (consp alts) (and (matches ch (cdr alts)) (matches last (car alts))) (matches ch alts (let ((balance 0) (quote nil) (partial nil) (lst nil) (last 0)) (mapc (lambda (ch) ; split on [], (), balanced instances of [ \t]: (setq balance (+ balance (cond ((or (equal 91 ch) (equal 40 ch)) 1) ((or (equal 93 ch) (equal 41 ch)) -1) (t 0 (when (and (equal 34 ch) (not (equal 92 last))) (setq quote (not quote))) (setq partial (cons ch partial)) (when (and (= balance 0) (not quote) (matched ch last)) (setq lst (cons (apply #'string (nreverse (if (consp alts) (cddr partial) (cdr partial lst)) (setq partial nil)) (setq last ch)) (string-to-list string)) (nreverse (cons (apply #'string (nreverse partial)) lst) --8---cut here---end---8--- --8---cut here---start-8--- (ert-deftest test-ob/org-babel-balanced-split () (should (equal '(:a 1 b [2 3] c (4 :d (5 6))) (org-babel-balanced-split :a 1 :b [2 3] :c (4 :d (5 6)) '((32 9) . 58) --8---cut here---end---8---
[O] '=' and highlight
Hello.
Why org mode highlights this lines with bright text color:
={motion}indent code
== indent line
?
From the first '=' till '=='.
--
sergio.
Re: [O] [babel][bug] org-babel-balanced-split (with Emacs-22)
Martyn Jago martyn.j...@btinternet.com writes: Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com writes: Martyn Jago martyn.j...@btinternet.com writes: Martyn Jago martyn.j...@btinternet.com writes: [...] The problem appears to be associated with the way `member' works: - on Emacs 23+ the following doesn't generate an error - on Emacs 22 it generates Wrong type argument: listp, 58 #+begin_src emacs-lisp (member 116 58) #+end_src `org-babel-balanced-split' appears to rely on not generating an error when the `member' LIST parameter is actually a number. Ah, I see where this comes in, does the included alternative definition of this function fix the issue on Emacs22? If so I'll apply this change to the repository. Thanks, (defun org-babel-balanced-split (string alts) Split STRING on instances of ALTS. ALTS is a cons of two character options where each option may be either the numeric code of a single character or a list of character alternatives. For example to split on balanced instances of \[ \t]:\ set ALTS to '((32 9) . 58). (flet ((matches (ch spec) (or (and (numberp spec) (= spec ch)) (not (numberp spec) (member ch spec [...] Hi Eric I fixed a typo on your fix, and added a regression test, and it now works on Emacs 22. Thanks! Great, both the test case and a fixed version of this function are now applied to the git repository. Thanks, Best, Martyn (defun org-babel-balanced-split (string alts) Split STRING on instances of ALTS. ALTS is a cons of two character options where each option may be either the numeric code of a single character or a list of character alternatives. For example to split on balanced instances of \[ \t]:\ set ALTS to '((32 9) . 58). (flet ((matches (ch spec) (or (and (numberp spec) (= spec ch)) (and (not (numberp spec)) (member ch spec (matched (ch last) (if (consp alts) (and (matches ch (cdr alts)) (matches last (car alts))) (matches ch alts (let ((balance 0) (quote nil) (partial nil) (lst nil) (last 0)) (mapc (lambda (ch) ; split on [], (), balanced instances of [ \t]: (setq balance (+ balance (cond ((or (equal 91 ch) (equal 40 ch)) 1) ((or (equal 93 ch) (equal 41 ch)) -1) (t 0 (when (and (equal 34 ch) (not (equal 92 last))) (setq quote (not quote))) (setq partial (cons ch partial)) (when (and (= balance 0) (not quote) (matched ch last)) (setq lst (cons (apply #'string (nreverse (if (consp alts) (cddr partial) (cdr partial lst)) (setq partial nil)) (setq last ch)) (string-to-list string)) (nreverse (cons (apply #'string (nreverse partial)) lst) (ert-deftest test-ob/org-babel-balanced-split () (should (equal '(:a 1 b [2 3] c (4 :d (5 6))) (org-babel-balanced-split :a 1 :b [2 3] :c (4 :d (5 6)) '((32 9) . 58) -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
Re: [O] [babel][bug] org-babel-balanced-split (with Emacs-22)
Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com writes: Great, both the test case and a fixed version of this function are now applied to the git repository. You've pushed it to both maint and master? Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ Wavetables for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldUserWavetables
Re: [O] '=' and highlight
sergio mail...@sergio.spb.ru wrote:
Hello.
Why org mode highlights this lines with bright text color:
={motion}indent code
== indent line
?
From the first '=' till '=='.
Hints:
(info (org) Emphasis and monospace)
Put the cursor on a character in the indicated range and do
C-u C-x =
Look at the face property.
Nick
Re: [O] [babel][bug] org-babel-balanced-split (with Emacs-22)
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com writes: Great, both the test case and a fixed version of this function are now applied to the git repository. You've pushed it to both maint and master? Yes, I'm now pushing bug-fix commits to maint as well as master. Achim. -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
Re: [O] [babel][bug] org-babel-balanced-split (with Emacs-22)
Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com writes: Yes, I'm now pushing bug-fix commits to maint as well as master. That way you duplicate the commit (the same change now has two ID). I think it would be preferrable to push bugfixes to maint and then merge maint back into master. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ DIY Stuff: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/DIY.html
Re: [O] '=' and highlight
On 01/03/2012 11:07 PM, Nick Dokos wrote: Look at the face property. face (org-code) -- sergio.
Re: [O] calendar problem with schedule
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: Richard Riley rile...@gmail.com wrote: Ive not been using org mode for a while, just came back to and using latest 24 snapshot from git I get , | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function window-combination-p) | window-combination-p(#window 8 nil) | calendar-generate-window(1 2012) | calendar-basic-setup(nil) | calendar() You likely have a mixture of old and new files (what I call a frankenstein install): calendar-generate-window calls window-combined-p in the current version, and there is no window-combination-p function, which leads me to believe that you have old calendar code. I recommend a thorough cleaning, rebuilding and reinstalling of emacs. You might want to try a restart of emacs first just to see if it works, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Nick PS. Happy New Year! Well, it was a complete new rebuild from git. I'll delete the lot and try again, but a complete remake shouldnt exhibit this behaviour and I have no local debian version installed either. cheers, r.
Re: [O] calendar problem with schedule
Richard Riley rile...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it was a complete new rebuild from git. I'll delete the lot and try again, but a complete remake shouldnt exhibit this behaviour and I have no local debian version installed either. cheers, r. [I presume that you are rebuilding emacs, correct?] Are you doing a ``make bootstrap''? After the build, can you do just M-x calendar?
Re: [O] [babel][bug] org-babel-balanced-split (with Emacs-22)
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com writes: Yes, I'm now pushing bug-fix commits to maint as well as master. That way you duplicate the commit (the same change now has two ID). I think it would be preferrable to push bugfixes to maint and then merge maint back into master. Alright, that does sound preferable. I'll leave the previous commits as is so as not to force a non-fast-forward commit, but moving forward I'll commit bug fixes to maint and then merge maint into master. Thanks, Regards, Achim. -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
Re: [O] [PATCH] * doc/org.texi (Agenda commands): Document org-clock-report-include-clocking-task
Hi Bastien, Bastien wrote: Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca writes: Add reference to this variable when describing the agenda clock report. Applied, thanks. Here's the documentation patch. I won't be offended if you decide not to apply it since we don't document every customizable variable in org-mode. I think this one is important. This one appears important because its default value is not set as one would or could expect. Shouldn't we set it to `t' by default? Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban
Re: [O] '=' and highlight
sergio mail...@sergio.spb.ru wrote: On 01/03/2012 11:07 PM, Nick Dokos wrote: Look at the face property. face (org-code) ...and what does M-x describe-face RET org-code RET say?
Re: [O] calendar problem with schedule
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: Richard Riley rile...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it was a complete new rebuild from git. I'll delete the lot and try again, but a complete remake shouldnt exhibit this behaviour and I have no local debian version installed either. cheers, r. [I presume that you are rebuilding emacs, correct?] Are you doing a ``make bootstrap''? After the build, can you do just M-x calendar? embarassed whistle I forgot I had added org-mode to el-get packages yonks ago. So here's a prize for being spot on : !! all up and running now I jusr use the emacs 24 org. thanks, r.
Re: [O] '=' and highlight
On 01/04/2012 01:42 AM, Nick Dokos wrote: ...and what does M-x describe-face RET org-code RET say? Face for fixed-width text like code snippets. ... Foreground: unspecified ... Inherit: shadow ... How org-mode decides, when to use this face? -- sergio.
Re: [O] '=' and highlight
Hi Sergio, sergio wrote: On 01/04/2012 01:42 AM, Nick Dokos wrote: ...and what does M-x describe-face RET org-code RET say? Face for fixed-width text like code snippets. ... Foreground: unspecified ... Inherit: shadow ... How org-mode decides, when to use this face? See the 2 following vars: - org-emphasis-alist Variable: Special syntax for emphasized text. - org-emphasis-regexp-components Variable: Components used to build the regular expression for emphasis. Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban
Re: [O] '=' and highlight
sergio mail...@sergio.spb.ru wrote: On 01/04/2012 01:42 AM, Nick Dokos wrote: ...and what does M-x describe-face RET org-code RET say? Face for fixed-width text like code snippets. ... Foreground: unspecified ... Inherit: shadow ... ... and what does M-x describe-face RET shadow RET say? How org-mode decides, when to use this face? Did you check (info (org) Emphasis and monospace)?
[O] Inserting new images
I'm looking for a good way to insert sketches into org files. I'm preparing notes that consist of text and diagrams. As I'm outlining, I was thinking that it would be great if I could bind a key command to insert a link to an svg file and then launch inkscape or something similar to edit the file. If anyone has done anything similar or has any ideas, I would be interested to hear them. By the way, I looked at inkmacs and had some issues with dbus-proxy, so I'm completely open to quick and dirty solutions. Thanks! Derek
Re: [O] '=' and highlight
Hi Sergio,
sergio mail...@sergio.spb.ru writes:
How org-mode decides, when to use this face?
See the docstring of `org-emphasis-regexp-components':
,
| Components used to build the regular expression for emphasis.
| This is a list with five entries. Terminology: In an emphasis string
| like *strong word* , we call the initial space PREMATCH, the final
| space POSTMATCH, the stars MARKERS, s and d are BORDER characters
| and trong wor is the body. The different components in this variable
| specify what is allowed/forbidden in each part:
|
| pre Chars allowed as prematch. Beginning of line will be allowed
too.
| post Chars allowed as postmatch. End of line will be allowed too.
| border The chars *forbidden* as border characters.
| body-regexp A regexp like . to match a body character. Don't use
| non-shy groups here, and don't allow newline here.
| newline The maximum number of newlines allowed in an emphasis exp.
|
| Use customize to modify this, or restart Emacs after changing it.
`
In your case, I think you want to prevent =...= to emphasize
(i.e. shadow) the text when the border character is `{'.
HTH,
--
Bastien
Re: [O] [PATCH] * doc/org.texi (Agenda commands): Document org-clock-report-include-clocking-task
Hi Sébastien, Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes: This one appears important because its default value is not set as one would or could expect. Shouldn't we set it to `t' by default? I can see two use cases for clock reports: transient reports (for quick checks about time spent) and persistent reports (for the boss.) I guess the second use case is the most common one, so excluding running clocks by default (setq `org-clock-report-include-clocking-task' nil) looks ok to me. -- Bastien
[O] Standard property proposal (was: org-jira.el... and Org conventions (Bastien, Carsten and all))
Hi! * Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com wrote: But this triggers, for me, another concern which is the very wide variety of ways to define the same thing. [...] Totally agree to that. So, my point is: wouldn't it be better if we proposed standard properties in Org (in the manual), and implemented mappings in the Org integration packages (org-jira, org-taskjuggler, org-redmine and the like)? So, say for example that, from now on, it's more standard in Org to use Assignee (or anything else) for representing who's assigned a task, and have every package map the property Assignee to whatever keyword used in external tools for representing that concept? I'd say that this issue is a HUGE one for the future of Org-mode. It is ubiquitous to users all over. I myself had troubles adopting org-contacts[1][2] because of only one single email property defined. When I started developing software that *massively* converts user data into Org-mode format[3], I felt this strange itch, whether my property definitions are well chosen or not ... I *love* the fact that Org-mode is so lightweight and so heavy the same time - just as the user wants it. But using conventions also has some drawbacks. Whenever someone wants to define a certain format with properties for example, she has to define her own way. If there is an Org-mode extension using similar data, users woun't notice until some data show up on this list and another Org-mode user is adding a hint. So a free-to-use recommendation list of standard properties would be *very* fine. Part of my research work is in the field of information architecture for personal information management. If I can be of any help in some kind of discussion and definition process, I'd be glad. [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/47478 [2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/45347 [3] https://github.com/novoid/Memacs -- Karl Voit
Re: [O] Inserting new images
Derek Thomas derekctho...@gmail.com writes: I'm looking for a good way to insert sketches into org files. I'm preparing notes that consist of text and diagrams. As I'm outlining, I was thinking that it would be great if I could bind a key command to insert a link to an svg file and then launch inkscape or something similar to edit the file. If anyone has done anything similar or has any ideas, I would be interested to hear them. By the way, I looked at inkmacs and had some issues with dbus-proxy, so I'm completely open to quick and dirty solutions. Thanks! Derek I'm a fan of custom links. IIUC, you should be able to accomplish much of what you want with the information here: http://orgmode.org/manual/Adding-hyperlink-types.html#Adding-hyperlink-types hth, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com
Re: [O] The reportmode report does not count the running clock
Hi François, pin...@iro.umontreal.ca (François Pinard) writes: Hello, everybody. Let me wish you all that the Year Started Well, and will continue that way all along! Thanks! Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Note that there is a million variables which are not referred to in the manual - simply too many to mention them all. A million? You *always* exaggerate! :-) Well, I counted more than 1070 variables... describing 5 of them per page would take 214 pages. Not something I'd like to read :) It might be useful to mentions this one, otherwise I would urge restraint. A good way to find unknown variables is described here: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-customize.html The manual should be reference, and should mention all variables. A textual search in the manual should yield anything worth finding. Emacs is The All-Mighty Self-Documenting Editor ;) Wrt documentation, Emacs is its own reference, by letting you access everything with C-h v org-*. The manual is a secondary reference: one that contains the most useful things to know about Org to use it efficiently. It should cover 100% of the core feature, and most of the rest -- but there is a trade-off in this last area. Between readability and completeness. However nicely and carefully the customization has been organized, one should ideally not have to guess and retry customize branches in hope of finding something, or peruse the sources, after having tried the manual. Do not misread me, I'm not at all saying that there is something wrong with the customization, or the availability of the sources! :-) Another point: there is a lot to do to improve the current docstrings and the manual. This is a matter of 1) pulling from git, 2) modifying the file, 3) run `C-x v =' in the buffer, 4) send the patch. :) Maybe an appendix to the manual could be mechanically generated out of all customization information, with some Makefile/Emacs machinery for keeping it up-to-date? Easier said than done, I know... But I would like at least to throw the idea in the field. This crossed my mind recently. See this file: http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/u/org.org which presents all functions/options/variables from some org*el files. The code to produce this is here: http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/u/org-lto.el This is broken in many respect -- no cleanup is done on the docstring, and there is nearly no formatting. Also, it does not export well (see http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/u/org.html) If you're interested in improving this, please go ahead, I'd be interested in getting something working along these lines. Best regards, -- Bastien
[O] Property inheritance issue with agenda view
Hi, I am experiencing an issue with the display and inheritance of self-defined properties in the agenda column view. That's what I did: In Preference.el (Aquamacs), I set (setq org-use-properties-inheritance t). In xxx.org file, #+COLUMNS: %50ITEM %TAGS %PRIORITY %10TIMESTAMP %20Project %TODO %30CATEGORY . ... * Project Property column test 2012-01-03 Tue :PROPERTIES: :Project: Apple :END: ** Read book DEADLINE: 2012-01-31 Tue I expected to see in agenda column view for parent and child in the Project Column Apple. However, I only got that for the parent. Any advice? Thanks, CK
Re: [O] The reportmode report does not count the running clock
Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Hi François, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Note that there is a million variables which are not referred to in the manual - simply too many to mention them all. A million? You *always* exaggerate! :-) Well, I counted more than 1070 variables... describing 5 of them per page would take 214 pages. Not something I'd like to read :) That's why I suggested an appendix. We search in them, more than we really read them. On the other hand, it would considerably augment the weight of a printed manual, and so, be more harmful to our forests. Wrt documentation, Emacs is its own reference, by letting you access everything with C-h v org-*. Emacs has impressive ways to offer its own documentation. Still a bit uneasy to use C-h v (or C-h f) on everything. M-x apropos org- RET is more handy and searchable, yet the documentation is likely limited to the first line of each docstring (so at least this convention for a complete sentence in the first line of a docstring). Another point: there is a lot to do to improve the current docstrings and the manual. This is a matter of 1) pulling from git, 2) modifying the file, 3) run `C-x v =' in the buffer, 4) send the patch. [...] If you're interested in improving this, please go ahead, I'd be interested in getting something working along these lines. Oh, the problem is surely not the lack of interest, but the sore lack of free hours in a week, and the quantity of ways to occupy those rare hours already (something Org mode is tremendously helpful at organizing, by the way). Surely that given enough free time, I would just love to contribute. The truth is that I can only offer tiny crumbs. In any case, I'm saving your message and notes (who knows the future!). François
