Re: [O] [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3
Hi Samuel, Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: i meant that c-c c-' and c-c c- are both cumbersome for those users who press c-c by holding down the control key with the right hand and then pressing c with the left hand. c-c ' is not cumbersome for those users. I understand better now, thanks. What I don't understand is why keeping the right control key between C-c and C-' is harder than releasing the control key between C-c and ' (or as also proposed.) My experience (which seems the same than Nick's) is that holding the control key down is easier/faster. (I wonder if any serious ergonomical study has been done for Emacs beybindings depending on keyboards.) -- Bastien
Re: [O] Include heading title in HTML section-number cross-reference, like LaTex \nameref?
Hello, D. C. Toedt d...@toedt.com writes: (Org-mode maintainer [Bastien, still?], can you please let me know if / when this gets implemented in an official release.) I'm not Org's maintainer anymore, I'm just /de facto/ taking decisions in accordance with the other core maintainers, our level of trust lets us move forward happily. To come back to you original question: , | #+OPTIONS: H:7 TOC:nil @:t num:1 email:t author:t | | * Introduction to Technology Contracts | :PROPERTIES: | :CUSTOM_ID: IntroTechContracts | :END: | | Lorem ipsum etc. etc. | | * Dangerous Clauses | :PROPERTIES: | :CUSTOM_ID: DangerousClauses | :END: | | Lorem ipsum etc. etc. -- see Section [[#IntroTechContracts]]. ` Why don't you use [[#IntroTechContracts][Introduction to Technology Contracts]] as a link? It is the link stored by org-store-link, and later inserted by org-insert-link, and AFAICS it is correctly exported. But it's true there are a few things we can make more consistent in this area though, so thanks for bringing this up. Best, -- Bastien
Re: [O] Include heading title in HTML section-number cross-reference, like LaTex \nameref?
D. C. Toedt d...@toedt.com writes:
I found a problem when trying this on a bigger file (my book file): If $1
(actually, #$1) is for a link target that doesn't exist, then org-mode goes
into its No match - create this as a new heading? (y or n) routine. That
causes the rest of the export to fail. It'd be better if get-title could
do the same thing org-mode does natively, that is, including the text of $1
as italics to indicate a non-existent link.
Example file below:
#+MACRO: get-title (eval (save-excursion (org-open-link-from-string
[[#$1]]) (org-get-heading nil nil)))
#+MACRO: SECREF [[#$1][{{{get-title($1)}}}]]
#+OPTIONS: H:7 toc:nil num:1 email:t author:t
* Introduction to Technology Contracts
:PROPERTIES:
:CUSTOM_ID: IntroTechContracts
:END:
Lorem ipsum etc. etc.
* Dangerous Clauses
:PROPERTIES:
:CUSTOM_ID: DangerousClauses
:END:
Lorem ipsum etc. etc. -- see Section {{{SECREF(
BogusLinkTarget
)}}}
The following should work.
#+MACRO: get-title (eval (or (save-excursion (ignore-errors (let
((org-link-search-inhibit-query t)) (org-open-link-from-string [[#$1]])
(org-get-heading nil nil /$1/))
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] Error with org-adaptive-fill-function and mu4e
Hi Bastien, Am Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 08:53:03AM +0100, Bastien wrote: There is no orgtbl-line* variable in latest Org. What version of Org are you using? Also, do you have the same error with (add-hook 'message-mode-hook 'turn-on-orgstruct) (add-hook 'mail-mode-hook 'turn-on-orgstruct) thanks for your answer... I'm using 8.2.5h. With the code you suggest me, I do NOT get the error, but lists for instance do not work (i.e. there is no indentation, etc.). -- :: Igor Sosa Mayor :: joseleopoldo1...@gmail.com :: :: GnuPG: 0x1C1E2890 :: http://www.gnupg.org/ :: :: jabberid: rogorido ::::
Re: [O] Error with org-adaptive-fill-function and mu4e
Hi Igor, Igor Sosa Mayor joseleopoldo1...@gmail.com writes: Am Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 08:53:03AM +0100, Bastien wrote: There is no orgtbl-line* variable in latest Org. What version of Org are you using? Also, do you have the same error with (add-hook 'message-mode-hook 'turn-on-orgstruct) (add-hook 'mail-mode-hook 'turn-on-orgstruct) thanks for your answer... I'm using 8.2.5h. Thanks. Still, since orgtbl-line* is not in 8.2.5h, I suspect you didn't add (require 'org) early enough in your .emacs.el. The latest Org needs to be loaded before you use it in mu4a. With the code you suggest me, I do NOT get the error, but lists for instance do not work (i.e. there is no indentation, etc.). Lists in orgstruct works fine here in Gnus, but see above, as we need to sort this out first. -- Bastien
[O] Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3)
* Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! i meant that c-c c-' and c-c c- are both cumbersome for those users who press c-c by holding down the control key with the right hand and then pressing c with the left hand. c-c ' is not cumbersome for those users. Oh, this is a sensitive subject :-) For example: I am happily removing CAPS LOCK on all of my computers and replace it with an additional CTRL key. This way, I am using my left pinkie for all kinds of CTRL-combinations. As long as it is not combined with [`123q~] or TAB, I am fine. And: although I am living in a German speaking country, I am using US_intl keyboard settings. Most keyboard shortcuts make more sense since I switched. Unfortunately, software developers who define keyboard shortcuts have either settle for their own keyboard layout (mostly en_US) or keyboard shortcuts are part of the i18n layer which has also some drawbacks IMHO. The point is: when you are settling for keyboard shortcuts, you are going to do some assumptions on the environment of your users. So: what are these assumptions for Emacs/Org-mode? I guess this is the root question we should try to answer (and document). -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment
Hi Karl, Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at writes: So: what are these assumptions for Emacs/Org-mode? I guess this is the root question we should try to answer (and document). Well, this is a general Emacs issue. I guess the assumption is that keybindings are optimized for US keyboards layouts - that said, some core keybindings are based on mnemonic (C-f and C-b to move forward and backward), so optimized seems a bit fuzzy anyway... -- Bastien
[O] Error when editing src block
When `org-edit-src-code' fails to load the language mode, it leaves the buffer(s) in an unusable state. For example, evaluate M-: (add-hook 'emacs-lisp-mode-hook 'paredit-mode) Then C-c ' in this block #+begin_src emacs-lisp (save-excursion #+end_src - byte-code: Language mode `emacs-lisp-mode' fails with: Unmatched bracket or quote That's fine. But now C-c ' doesn't work and M-x org-edit-src-exit claims: org-edit-src-exit: This is not a sub-editing buffer, something is wrong Indeed. I guess, the source buffer and the overlay should be cleaned up. But since the worst that can happen is the language mode not loading correctly, maybe just downgrade the error to a warning? -- Florian Beck
Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment
* Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hi Karl, Hi Bastien! Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at writes: So: what are these assumptions for Emacs/Org-mode? I guess this is the root question we should try to answer (and document). Well, this is a general Emacs issue. Sure. I guess the assumption is that keybindings are optimized for US keyboards layouts - that said, some core keybindings are based on mnemonic (C-f and C-b to move forward and backward), so optimized seems a bit fuzzy anyway... Fair enough. So there has to be a decision whether or not to invest time/effort for users of QWERTZ keyboard layouts. If we should decide to ignore non US_intl/en_US-issues, I vote for making this decision very clear to new users with a prominent sentence in our documentation. Personally, I do think that tech-savvy users of non English speaking countries should definitely consider switching to US_intl layout for many reasons. From my experience, only a minority of text-savvy users are doing so. But this is also true for applying live-hacking as a habit in general :-( -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
Re: [O] adding options to the minted environment of exported source blocks in latex
Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: At the moment, there is no Org way to add arbitrary options to listings or minted on a per block basis. There are basically two ways to implement this. Either we add an :options keyword and stuff options there: #+attr_latex: :options a=b,c=d #+begin_src ... Another option is to turn options into keywords: #+attr_latex: :a b :c d #+begin_src ... The latter is more elegant, but it requires to know about every minted/listings options. It is also possible to do something in-between, i.e., tell Org about a few selected keywords and stuff the others into :options. This is what is done for images. Org knows about :height and :width and uses :options for everything else. The latter would be great. The option I'm considering does not exist in minted, I add it in my preamble. Best, Alan
Re: [O] Error with org-adaptive-fill-function and mu4e
Hi Bastien, Thanks. Still, since orgtbl-line* is not in 8.2.5h, I suspect you didn't add (require 'org) early enough in your .emacs.el. thanks again for your answer (and for your work in orgmode). I put (requir 'org) in the first line of emacs.el, restart emacs and lists are still not working. C-h m tells me OrgStruct is loaded. As I said, with (add-hook 'message-mode-hook 'turn-on-orgstruct) (add-hook 'mail-mode-hook 'turn-on-orgstruct) there is no error with orgtbl-line-etc. anymore. -- :: Igor Sosa Mayor :: joseleopoldo1...@gmail.com :: :: GnuPG: 0x1C1E2890 :: http://www.gnupg.org/ :: :: jabberid: rogorido ::::
Re: [O] [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3
Bastien writes: What I don't understand is why keeping the right control key between C-c and C-' is harder than releasing the control key between C-c and ' (or as also proposed.) My experience (which seems the same than Nick's) is that holding the control key down is easier/faster. That depends on the keyboard layout, but if pressing ' requires the use of the right hand, then you'd need to switch to the laft for pressing Control (unless you were chording it with the right hand, which is probably a bad thing for anyone inflicted with RSI). (I wonder if any serious ergonomical study has been done for Emacs beybindings depending on keyboards.) Quite certainly not. There are oodles of keybindings that really don't work sensibly with anything but a UNIX keyboard and the whole concept is clearly inspired by the Lisp Machine Space Cadet keyboard. I wish I'd still have my Sun Type4 keyboard… Similarly, you really don't get why anybody thought \ was a good path separator until you take a look at the original PC/XT keyboard (it was also a non-modifier key on most terminal keyboards at the time, but / was more prominent there). Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf rackAttack: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds
[O] bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:25 AM, N. Jackson gentleundercurr...@gmail.comwrote: The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gnu.emacs.bug as well. Lars Ingebrigtsen la...@gnus.org writes: Lennart Borgman lennart.borg...@gmail.com writes: Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shift arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? Naturally I can't answer for the OP (and I don't know about disputed keys) but I can report that in general this problem persists in Emacs 24.3. On GNU Emacs 24.3.1 [1], shift select does not work in org mode. I'm not certain this is a bug, as my understanding is that the org authors did not design it to work with shift select? In any case, I use a very simple workaround which makes shift select work just fine in org mode; I've never had any problems with it. It looks like this (Note: It is of unknown provenance, aside from the attribution in the comment.): ;; This snippit from jisang-yoo on reddit to enable shift select in org ;; mode when cua-mode is on. (eval-after-load org '(progn (eval-after-load cua-base '(progn (defadvice org-call-for-shift-select (before org-call-for-shift-select-cua activate) (if (and cua-mode org-support-shift-select (not (use-region-p))) (cua-set-mark))) ;; End jisang-yoo snippit With this in my org settings, I have no problems with shift select except that you cannot start a selection on a timestamp (because shift with cursor keys adjusts timestamps), but I've learnt to automatically start my selection from the end of the line above the timestamp so I don't have any problems. I hope this information is of some use. [1] GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.2) of 2013-08-14 on buildvm-15.phx2.fedoraproject.org Thanks Jason. I can't test now myself. I think this problem illustrates very well why cua-mode must be made a first class citizen in Emacs. Without that problems like this are showing up for beginners.
[O] bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Lennart Borgman lennart.borg...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:25 AM, N. Jackson gentleundercurr...@gmail.comwrote: The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gnu.emacs.bug as well. Lars Ingebrigtsen la...@gnus.org writes: Lennart Borgman lennart.borg...@gmail.com writes: Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shift arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? Naturally I can't answer for the OP (and I don't know about disputed keys) but I can report that in general this problem persists in Emacs 24.3. Thanks Jason. I can't test now myself. I think this problem illustrates very well why cua-mode must be made a first class citizen in Emacs. Without that problems like this are showing up for beginners. Oh, sorry. I mean Jackson, of course.
Re: [O] Include heading title in HTML section-number cross-reference, like LaTex \nameref?
Why don't you use [[#IntroTechContracts][Introduction to Technology Contracts]] as a link? I routinely tweak the text of the target headings as I edit the document. For example, the section heading Introduction to Technology Contracts might become, say, Introduction: Why Technology Contracts are Fun. I don't want to have to manually revise the link text for the many internal cross-reference links that exist in the document. I'd really like to have a way for a link to automatically retrieve the heading text during HTML export. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hello, D. C. Toedt d...@toedt.com writes: (Org-mode maintainer [Bastien, still?], can you please let me know if / when this gets implemented in an official release.) I'm not Org's maintainer anymore, I'm just /de facto/ taking decisions in accordance with the other core maintainers, our level of trust lets us move forward happily. To come back to you original question: , | #+OPTIONS: H:7 TOC:nil @:t num:1 email:t author:t | | * Introduction to Technology Contracts | :PROPERTIES: | :CUSTOM_ID: IntroTechContracts | :END: | | Lorem ipsum etc. etc. | | * Dangerous Clauses | :PROPERTIES: | :CUSTOM_ID: DangerousClauses | :END: | | Lorem ipsum etc. etc. -- see Section [[#IntroTechContracts]]. ` Why don't you use [[#IntroTechContracts][Introduction to Technology Contracts]] as a link? It is the link stored by org-store-link, and later inserted by org-insert-link, and AFAICS it is correctly exported. But it's true there are a few things we can make more consistent in this area though, so thanks for bringing this up. Best, -- Bastien
Re: [O] Include heading title in HTML section-number cross-reference, like LaTex \nameref?
Excellent -- that seems to export just fine.
Interestingly, the export now generates the message, Position saved to
mark ring, go back with C-c . I presume that comes from the
((org-link-search-inhibit-query t)) argument in the let function. It doesn't
seem to harm the export results.
One of these years I'll have to start poking around the Emacs-Lisp code to
try to puzzle out the workings of the functions being called, especially
org-get-heading
--- is there a comparable one (or arguments) to get the section number of a
heading?
Many thanks, Nicolas.
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote:
D. C. Toedt d...@toedt.com writes:
I found a problem when trying this on a bigger file (my book file): If
$1
(actually, #$1) is for a link target that doesn't exist, then org-mode
goes
into its No match - create this as a new heading? (y or n) routine.
That
causes the rest of the export to fail. It'd be better if get-title could
do the same thing org-mode does natively, that is, including the text of
$1
as italics to indicate a non-existent link.
Example file below:
#+MACRO: get-title (eval (save-excursion (org-open-link-from-string
[[#$1]]) (org-get-heading nil nil)))
#+MACRO: SECREF [[#$1][{{{get-title($1)}}}]]
#+OPTIONS: H:7 toc:nil num:1 email:t author:t
* Introduction to Technology Contracts
:PROPERTIES:
:CUSTOM_ID: IntroTechContracts
:END:
Lorem ipsum etc. etc.
* Dangerous Clauses
:PROPERTIES:
:CUSTOM_ID: DangerousClauses
:END:
Lorem ipsum etc. etc. -- see Section {{{SECREF(
BogusLinkTarget
)}}}
The following should work.
#+MACRO: get-title (eval (or (save-excursion (ignore-errors (let
((org-link-search-inhibit-query t)) (org-open-link-from-string [[#$1]])
(org-get-heading nil nil /$1/))
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment
Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at writes: Personally, I do think that tech-savvy users of non English speaking countries should definitely consider switching to US_intl layout for many reasons. What if the set of letters in English is a subset of the set of letters in your the tech-savvy users language? From my experience, only a minority of text-savvy users are doing so. Perhaps the objective that these users are maximizing another objective than the one you have in mind? —Rasmus -- If you can mix business and politics wonderful things can happen!
[O] org-dblock-write:count
Hi all, I just had an awesome conversation with Sacha about more effective daily/weekly reviewing with org-mode :-) One of the things we talked about was quantifying the number of tasks (TODO keywords) in any given state, as a means of becoming more aware of your progress over time. I have had some success in the past using the measure what you want to manage maxim[1], and wanted to start applying this to my horribly massive TODO.org file. Back in 2008, Carsten very generously implemented the `org-map-entries' API function at my request[2] in order to facilitate this kind of measurement, and I'm somewhat ashamed to say that I've only just started to take advantage of it: (defun org-count-matches (search) Count the number of matches from the given tag search in the current buffer, respecting any scope restriction. (interactive sMatch: ) (length (org-map-entries t search))) (defun org-dblock-write:count (params) Write a table showing the number of occurrences of each of the specified keywords and tag searches. Example usage: #+BEGIN:dynamic block #+BEGIN: count :keywords (\NEXT\ \DONE\) :searches (\@phone\ \@home\) | NEXT | 522 | | DONE | 69 | | @phone | 77 | | @home | 182 | #+END: (let ((keywords (plist-get params :keywords)) (searches (plist-get params :searches)) (format | %-10s | %3d |\n)) (insert (concat (mapconcat (lambda (keyword) (format format keyword (org-count-matches (concat / keyword keywords ) (mapconcat (lambda (search) (format format search (org-count-matches search))) searches ))) (backward-delete-char 1))) Sacha deserves a lot of credit for reminding me how easy it would be to do this :-) I suppose the next step would be to automate appending counts to a CSV file or transmitting them to some kind of graphing service like https://tempo-db.com/ (or preferably some free alternative like quantifiedawesome ;-) via a REST API. [1] http://blog.adamspiers.org/2011/05/15/email-nirvana/ [2] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2008-06/msg00208.html
Re: [O] Error with org-adaptive-fill-function and mu4e
Am Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 11:20:55AM +0100, Igor Sosa Mayor wrote: I put (requir 'org) in the first line of emacs.el, restart emacs and lists are still not working. C-h m tells me OrgStruct is loaded. As I well I have to be more precise: lists are not working if the item goes over one line. If the list item is shorter does not go over one line, then I can insert with M-RET one new item... -- :: Igor Sosa Mayor :: joseleopoldo1...@gmail.com :: :: GnuPG: 0x1C1E2890 :: http://www.gnupg.org/ :: :: jabberid: rogorido ::::
Re: [O] Error with org-adaptive-fill-function and mu4e
Hi Igor, Igor Sosa Mayor joseleopoldo1...@gmail.com writes: I put (requir 'org) in the first line of emacs.el If you are using 8.2.5h, from either Git or ELPA -- your first lines should be to modify the load-path (if using Git) or to initialize your ELPA archives. Otherwise (require 'org) will just require the Org distribution that is known by Emacs at this point. (Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but those things always need to be double-checked.) , restart emacs and lists are still not working. C-h m tells me OrgStruct is loaded. As I said, with (add-hook 'message-mode-hook 'turn-on-orgstruct) (add-hook 'mail-mode-hook 'turn-on-orgstruct) there is no error with orgtbl-line-etc. anymore. Good -- turn-on-orgstruct is enough for most purposes. -- Bastien
Re: [O] Error when editing src block
Hi Florian, Florian Beck f...@miszellen.de writes: But since the worst that can happen is the language mode not loading correctly, maybe just downgrade the error to a warning? Yes, that's what is done now in maint. Thanks for the suggestion. -- Bastien
[O] bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something
Lars Ingebrigtsen la...@gnus.org writes: Lennart Borgman lennart.borg...@gmail.com writes: Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shift arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? With Emacs from trunk: ~$ emacs RET C-x C-f test.org RET M-x cua-mode RET M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET M-: (insert blahblah) RET C-a S-right will select correctly here. ~$ emacs RET M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET M-: (setq org-replace-disputed-keys t) RET M-: (insert * A headline) RET C-a S-right will also select correctly instead of switching the TODO keyword. So I'm not really sure what is the bug here. Lennart, can you be more specific? Thanks! -- Bastien
Re: [O] Error with org-adaptive-fill-function and mu4e
Hi Bastien, If you are using 8.2.5h, from either Git or ELPA -- your first lines thanks again for your help. Normally I dont have any (require 'org). Orgmode is installed in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org/ by my package manager (pacman in archlinux). I load emacs Everything works in orgmode perfectly, org-version shows 8.2.5h, if I look up an org variable I can see that the help system points to org.el in the directory I mentioned, etc. That is: there are no other problems apart from this issue (but this problem is there since a couple of months at least). Good -- turn-on-orgstruct is enough for most purposes. Sure. But unfortunately it only works if the item is no longer than the 70 characters I have put as fill-column... It is not soo important. I just want to get rid of this issue, because I tend to use often lists in my emails... -- :: Igor Sosa Mayor :: joseleopoldo1...@gmail.com :: :: GnuPG: 0x1C1E2890 :: http://www.gnupg.org/ :: :: jabberid: rogorido ::::
[O] bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Lars Ingebrigtsen la...@gnus.org writes: Lennart Borgman lennart.borg...@gmail.com writes: Shift-select in cua-mode does not work in org-mode although org-replace-disputed-keys is t, org-disputed-keys are set for shift arrow keys and org-support-shift-select is always Is this problem still present in Emacs 24.3? With Emacs from trunk: ~$ emacs RET C-x C-f test.org RET M-x cua-mode RET M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET M-: (insert blahblah) RET C-a S-right will select correctly here. ~$ emacs RET M-: (setq org-support-shift-select t) RET M-: (setq org-replace-disputed-keys t) RET M-: (insert * A headline) RET C-a S-right will also select correctly instead of switching the TODO keyword. So I'm not really sure what is the bug here. Lennart, can you be more specific? Thanks! It would be very nice if the bug was gone, but please ask Jackson!
Re: [O] another blog exporter
Hi Bastien, On 02/09/2014 08:55 AM, Bastien wrote: Hi Robert, Robert Klein rokl...@roklein.de writes: I put ox-blog on github: https://github.com/roklein/ox-blog Thanks for your work on this, looks neat. Do you have an example website produced by ox-blog? Also, I see you use a new #+ATTR_BLOG keyword. Is this needed for images and such? I'd expect #+ATTR_HTML would be enough here, users won't want to use both #+ATTR_HTML and #+ATTR_BLOG I guess. I posted the latest three posts on http://www.xyzzy.de using ox-blog. I can use #+ATTR_HTML, but I wasn't sure about using new attributes, e.g. :highlight and :lineno for source blocks. I didn't want to pollute ATTR_HTML with things that are of no use for the HTML exporter. If you don't see a problem in #+ATTR_HTML, I'll happily change this. Thanks for the feed-back! Best regards Robert
[O] bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something
Hi Jackson, can you tell me what exactly the bug is wrt cua-mode and org-mode? See my previous recipes in this thread for references. If the bug is here for Emacs 24.3, can you try downloading and installing the latest Org stable version (http://orgmode.org) and see if the bug is still there? Thanks in advance for your help, -- Bastien
Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment
* Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at writes: Personally, I do think that tech-savvy users of non English speaking countries should definitely consider switching to US_intl layout for many reasons. What if the set of letters in English is a subset of the set of letters in your the tech-savvy users language? This is the case with the German language. However, there are ways to enter German umlauts with us_intl layout (digraph). With Microsoft Windows as an exception, it is possible to switch keyboard layouts on keyboard shortcuts. However, when I am coding, I am only using English variable names and comments. So most of the time, I am happy with 7-bit ASCII characters. If you do not code nor use strange environments like LaTeX, you might as well ignore my comments about tech-savvy people which was maybe a bit too general. From my experience, only a minority of text-savvy users are doing so. Perhaps the objective that these users are maximizing another objective than the one you have in mind? Yes, you are absolutely right. So tech-savvy is probably too unspecific as a term. However, coders seems to be narrow as well. Maybe you can think of a term in between? ;-) -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
Re: [O] org-edit-src-code window setup
On 2/7/14 6:01 PM, John Hendy wrote:
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Michael Bach pha...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear org-mode Developers and Users,
(Org-mode version 8.2.5g from git)
I want to change the behaviour of C-c ' when inside a source block.
What I am after is best described in a schematic:
+---+---+
| | |
| | 2 |
| | |
| | |
+ 1 +---+
| | |
| | 3 |
| | |
| | |
+---+---+
I am editing the .org file in window 1 ('org'). I want C-c ' to display
the code block contents in window 2 ('source'). In window 3 I want to
have the interpreter for the language I am editing ('interpreter').
Can you clarify whether you simply want to obtain this view in Emacs
and are not sure how, or if you are asking for a way to automate the
process via a keyboard binding/macros/function in order to do this
automatically on every use of =C-c '=?
I set this view up myself and also remember that there is a way to
automate this. My problem is not with the setup per se, but with the
behaviour that if I repeatedly press =C-c '= in the mentioned window
setup, the org src buffer is alternatingly displayed in window 2 and 3,
which is annoying (distracting)
I would like the interpreter buffer to stay in window 3 and the org src
buffer always be displayed in window 2 if I press =C-c '=.
Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3)
hi karl, it is true that there are assumptions about the user's environment. the strongest is probably qwerty, followed by european language, english, and common layouts. as a native english speaker, i am aware that i am fortunate in that regard. i get to use utf-8 without making my text files larger, unlike some asian speakers, for example. HOWEVER: my point was not about the user's environment at all. it applies to whatever environment is chosen for the assumptions. on qwerty, c is on the lhs. ' is on the rhs. /that/ is why c-c c-' is more cumbersome for using two hands for modifiers. remember: using one hand for both modifier and key is never an option. === hope that clarifies. samuel On 2/9/14, Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at wrote: * Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! i meant that c-c c-' and c-c c- are both cumbersome for those users who press c-c by holding down the control key with the right hand and then pressing c with the left hand. c-c ' is not cumbersome for those users. Oh, this is a sensitive subject :-) For example: I am happily removing CAPS LOCK on all of my computers and replace it with an additional CTRL key. This way, I am using my left pinkie for all kinds of CTRL-combinations. As long as it is not combined with [`123q~] or TAB, I am fine. And: although I am living in a German speaking country, I am using US_intl keyboard settings. Most keyboard shortcuts make more sense since I switched. Unfortunately, software developers who define keyboard shortcuts have either settle for their own keyboard layout (mostly en_US) or keyboard shortcuts are part of the i18n layer which has also some drawbacks IMHO. The point is: when you are settling for keyboard shortcuts, you are going to do some assumptions on the environment of your users. So: what are these assumptions for Emacs/Org-mode? I guess this is the root question we should try to answer (and document). -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. ANYBODY can get it. Denmark: free Karina Hansen NOW.
Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: remember: using one hand for both modifier and key is never an option. Why? For me C-c C-' is very easy with one hand, I don't even need to move the fingers. -- Bastien
Re: [O] [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: For me the following keys need shift or Alt-Gr: ^, , `, !, ?, and ~. Oh, do you really need the Alt-Gr key for `?' and `!' ? Does that mean you don't use `C-c !' or that you rarely use it? Of course, this may have nothing to do with the keybinding itself, but I'm curious. If i can throw in my 2-cents, I have been using Alt-O or(Meta-O if you prefer) for a Ctrl-C, Ctrl-C substitute in org-mode for years. Now i use a combination of an activation key (Alt-O or f4) and a kind of fast-key mnemonic map. I need mnemonics because there is just too much in org-mode, and i prefer to just type an extra key rather than have to bend to hit a semi-random modifier + cryptic keymap entry. so: Alt+o,a = agenda, Alt+o,0 = capture - inbox Alt+o,1 = agenda file 1 Alt+o, A,h = agenda - home tag Alt+o,T,c = org table convert region Alt+o,T,C,b = org table convert buffer. Basically, two keys to most used personal functions. To save the pinkies, alt and shift are the only modifiers. alt for the activator, and shift to dig into a personalised sub-menu. I tried binding to FNkeys, but i could not memorise them. the ah = at home comes naturally to me. I for one will follow this idea with interest. Tim.
Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment
rsi. one of the worst things you can do is use a single hand for more than one key. On 2/9/14, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: remember: using one hand for both modifier and key is never an option. Why? For me C-c C-' is very easy with one hand, I don't even need to move the fingers. -- Bastien -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. ANYBODY can get it. Denmark: free Karina Hansen NOW.
[O] org-odt table with borders on all sides
Is this possible? Please help. Thanks. Rajat.
Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment
Bastien writes: Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: remember: using one hand for both modifier and key is never an option. Why? For me C-c C-' is very easy with one hand, I don't even need to move the fingers. I'd think you need to curl the pinky at least unless you're talking about a laptop keyboard with a favorable position for the Ctrl key. It's really a bad thing if you've developed certain types of RSI and may even be impossible if you have coordinative disabilities or can only use one hand. This is what sticky or locked modifiers were invented for (check how your favourite OS lets you set up accessibility features). Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ SD adaptation for Waldorf rackAttack V1.04R1: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada
[O] Mismatch in url escaping between org and exported html
Hello list, If I insert a http:// link containing question marks, the verbatim link being inserted in the org document has the question mark escaped. For example the link http://mpcjanssen.nl/fossil/simpletask/tktview?name=ee0504fc8c is actually inserted as: [[http://mpcjanssen.nl/fossil/simpletask/tktview?name%3Dee0504fc8c][bug]] This works fine when clicking the link from emacs, but breaks when exporting to html. Then it is exported as: a href=http://mpcjanssen.nl/fossil/simpletask/tktview?name%3Dee0504fc8c bug/a This will not work. Is this an error in the html exporter or in org mode itself? I would expect the link to be included verbatim in the .org file. Regards, Mark
[O] create/export a table + cell and table borders?
Is it possible, in org-mode, to create a table and export it to a 'foobar.txt' but showing the table borders and cell borders please? I couldn't find any mention of it in the org-mode manual, but that doesn't mean that it can't be done. Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, emacs 24.3.50.1 Registered Linux user 561944 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment
* Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de wrote: Bastien writes: Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: remember: using one hand for both modifier and key is never an option. Why? For me C-c C-' is very easy with one hand, I don't even need to move the fingers. I'd think you need to curl the pinky at least unless you're talking about a laptop keyboard with a favorable position for the Ctrl key. I am using Lenovo UltraNav USB keyboards on Windows and Linux machines and an Apple BT keyboard on a Mac. On all of them I can type C-c with a *completely relaxed* left pinkie and a left index finger thanks to an additional CTRL key instead of the CAPS LOCK. My left pinkie seldom moves away from the left CAPS LOCK position. In fact, I never use the original left CTRL key at all. And more or less thanks to bad habit, I never use the right CTRL key. Unfortunately, I do not touch type all the time. And I know, that my typing behavior is not optimized. However, it's that fast that changing my typing habits at this point seems to be a hard thing to do for very little benefit. I never had any physical issues related to typing. I tend to think that this is because of the CAPSLOCK/CTRL trick. I get the impression from this thread, that this varies from user to user. -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
[O] external setup file for org-html-preamble?
Hello, I'm exporting my org-mode files to HTML. I've been using: # Local Variables: # org-html-preamble: # End: to insert a custom HTML preamble and postamble for my org files for HTML export. Just now for simplicity, I'm trying to move the preamble and postamble to an external setup file. In my org-mode file, I now have #+SETUPFILE: setup.org and my setup.org file looks like this: http://ix.io/apQ However, when I try to export to HTML, I get Invalid format string Can anyone spot the problem in my setup file? http://ix.io/apQ Thanks!
Re: [O] create/export a table + cell and table borders?
Hello, Sharon Kimble boudic...@talktalk.net writes: Is it possible, in org-mode, to create a table and export it to a 'foobar.txt' but showing the table borders and cell borders please? I couldn't find any mention of it in the org-mode manual, but that doesn't mean that it can't be done. | / | | | |---++---| | | a | b | |---++---| | | c | d | |---++---| See (info (org) Column groups) First and last rules are not required if you export to UTF-8. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] Mismatch in url escaping between org and exported html
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Mark Janssen mpc.jans...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, If I insert a http:// link containing question marks, the verbatim link being inserted in the org document has the question mark escaped. Seems (setq org-url-hexify-p nil) will give me the required behavior. Mark
Re: [O] Proposal/request for input: slidify export for html slides
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Charles Berry ccbe...@ucsd.edu wrote:
I still think it makes sense to allow :eval no. This seems more
Org-ish since the ideology is to have one set of Org syntax where
possible, which translates to any number of languages. [...]
In principal, it makes sense to map babel header args to knitr chunk
options. At least when the headers arg and chunk option do about the
same thing.
But there is some effort and overhead involved, so only the most
useful (IMO) have been mapped. Right now, `:noweb yes' will expand the
reference(s) in place before export, and `:exports none' will not export
the block. Maybe one day ...
Understood, and no worries. I'm making progress. When you say expand
references, I'm not sure I follow what that means. References =
references to variables? So something like :var something=something?
More a matter of what my workflow is (so the issue doesn't arise). I use
the cache=TRUE chunk option on the knitr side to save the results of long
running computations. When I start work, I execute a src block that loads
knitr and knits the *.Rnw (or *.Rmd, etc), which has the side effect of
loading the cached objects. Then I edit the *.org document. If I am
working on R code, I run the code interactively either from the src edit
buffer or I C-c C-c the src block. Its handy to leave the results in the
*.org buffer for reference - they get stripped on export. Maybe I edit
a figure caption (knitr option fig.cap=R character object), equations,
or text. When I am ready to see the formatted doc, I export via ravel,
knit, and view. The cached objects get rebuilt as needed.
Ah. I think I follow this. If you knit the exported .org - Rmd file
in the same R session that Org is using, if you change the .org and
re-export to .Rmd, knitr is smart enough not to re-run the code? Is
that what you mean? That also must imply that export to .Rmd doesn't
execute any of the Org babel code, right (otherwise there would be no
benefit to your workflow since you'd be waiting for Org anyway)?
If that's the case, I think I could roll with that -- I'd just have
:eval yes if exporting to .Rmd - knitr, and do a replace-string to
:eval no if I was going to export to Beamer.
My workflow might be odd in that I tend to futz with plot parameters
once, get the desired image, and then set :eval no for the rest of my
document work so I don't have to wait for plots on iterative exports.
I try to put all my setup code (load packages, data
reading/manipulation, etc.) in it's own block so that I can easily run
that whenever I first open the document. From there I only need to
re-run a plot block if necessary and I'll just temporarily change
:eval no - yes and then back again after execution.
Not odd at all if it saves you time.
But if it takes long to rebuild the objects in that first src block, you
might want to try the cache=TRUE route.
I'm a bit hung up on including non-code-generated images. I'm working
through one of my presentations to convert to slidify (and may write
up a Worg tutorial or just one on my blog to add to collective
knowledge) but am not sure of the right universal Org syntax that
will work with multiple backends. I'm most used to something like
this:
#+begin_center
#+attr_backend :height {6cm, 400px, etc.}
[[./path/to/image.png]]
#+end_center
That's not seeming to work with ox-ravel thus far. I'd love not to
have to change the Org image syntax to straight markdown just for my
occasional use of slidify.
Thanks again -- you've been immensely helpful in getting me started!
John
Chuck
p.s. the weird fontification you noted one posting up in this thread seems
like something to raise with the slidify/knitr devs after checking the
*.Rmd to be sure there is no org/ravel induced problem.
Will do, but I'm really thinking it's got to be crud that exported
from my various latex lines/settings. If things persist after making
sure none of that made it through to .Rmd, I'll submit an example file
to either knitr or slidify github issues.
Re: [O] external setup file for org-html-preamble?
Hello, Peter Salazar cycleofs...@gmail.com writes: Just now for simplicity, I'm trying to move the preamble and postamble to an external setup file. In my org-mode file, I now have #+SETUPFILE: setup.org and my setup.org file looks like this: http://ix.io/apQ However, when I try to export to HTML, I get Invalid format string Can anyone spot the problem in my setup file? http://ix.io/apQ You need to escape % in the first BIND value. See `org-html-preamble-format' docstring. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] Include heading title in HTML section-number cross-reference, like LaTex \nameref?
D. C. Toedt d...@toedt.com writes: --- is there a comparable one (or arguments) to get the section number of a heading? There is `org-export-get-headline-number' but is only accessible during export, so it cannot be called from a macro or a Babel block. Anyway, in your case, you just need to use [[#custom-id]]. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3
Tim O'Callaghan t...@dspsrv.com writes: Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: For me the following keys need shift or Alt-Gr: ^, , `, !, ?, and ~. Oh, do you really need the Alt-Gr key for `?' and `!' ? Does that mean you don't use `C-c !' or that you rarely use it? Of course, this may have nothing to do with the keybinding itself, but I'm curious. If i can throw in my 2-cents, I have been using Alt-O or(Meta-O if you prefer) for a Ctrl-C, Ctrl-C substitute in org-mode for years. Now i use a combination of an activation key (Alt-O or f4) and a kind of fast-key mnemonic map. I need mnemonics because there is just too much in org-mode, and i prefer to just type an extra key rather than have to bend to hit a semi-random modifier + cryptic keymap entry. so: Alt+o,a = agenda, Alt+o,0 = capture - inbox Alt+o,1 = agenda file 1 Alt+o, A,h = agenda - home tag Alt+o,T,c = org table convert region Alt+o,T,C,b = org table convert buffer. Basically, two keys to most used personal functions. To save the pinkies, alt and shift are the only modifiers. alt for the activator, and shift to dig into a personalised sub-menu. I tried binding to FNkeys, but i could not memorise them. the ah = at home comes naturally to me. I for one will follow this idea with interest. I have a similar setup. I use f7 as a prefix key for many org operations (personal ones as well as generic ones, mostly the less common ones but also a few of the very common: e.g. I use f7f7 instead of `C-c a a'). One problem I had was that there are lots of things under that keymap that I didn't use often enough to memorise, so I would end up looking in my keydefs file to figure out where some operation was (and no, I can't remember the names of the functions either...) I recently found out that if after f7 I press C-h, I get a description of the keymap. That's probably well known in some circles, but I only found out about it recently, reading the Key Binding Conventions section in the elisp manual: , |* Don't bind `C-h' following any prefix character (including `C-c'). | If you don't bind `C-h', it is automatically available as a help | character for listing the subcommands of the prefix character. ` That's *very* useful to me - if you don't know about it already, try it: I think you'll find it very useful too! -- Nick
[O] Proposal for images in markdown export (ox-md)
Hi,
I've been playing around with the ox-md lately and wondered about the
idea of shifting the exported image syntax if any html options are
present. While the markdown file could be changed prior to re-export
to something else, it would seem that specifying options in Org might
imply they want might want those options applied to the markdown file
as well.
Or I'm perhaps wrong about this given the aim of markdown, but in that
case I'd at least propose a change to the current behavior of
#+begin/end_center.
The current behavior is such that no image attributes can be specified
(that I've found), which sort of makes sense given that markdown
doesn't have any image tweaking syntax. If you google around on how to
do this, the answer is simply to use straight img ... html instead
of the typical  format.
So, my proposal would be that if either are present, Org could
(should?) use html image specifications instead of markdown.
2) Behavior with centering:
- org
#+begin_center
[[./img.png]]
#+end_center
- exported to markdown (doesn't work when converting to .html)
div class=center
/div
2) attributes
- org
#+attr_html: :style display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right:
auto; height: 400px
[[./img.png]]
- markdown
The second works in that the image is displayed as-is from the file.
For conversion from .md to something else, this only works if the
image is the exact size required for the resultant document. I'd
prefer not to have to resize every image I want to use in a markdown
document just for that markdown document.
I'm a bit confused about the div behavior, as I've encountered at
least one suggestion that this should work, but at least with knitr
and knit2html, this doesn't render properly (it just prints the
verbatim text, ).
- http://stackoverflow.com/a/1228126/495990
Is there a reason Org uses this for #+begin_center?
The documentation says that the html backend behavior will be used
where ox-md doesn't have support, and the html behavior for
#+begin/end_center is to export an image like so:
div class=figurepimg ... //div
There's corresponding css in the header for the figure class:
.figure { padding: 1em; }
.figure p { text-align: center; }
Based, on this, one *might* make the case that ox-html should take
over when attributes are specified. Just one thought process :)
Thanks for any feedback,
John
Re: [O] [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3
Bastien b...@gnu.org writes: A few comments on the last three: - is not a punctuation character, I find C-c instead of C-c ' good. Is it true that is not a punctuation character? In any event, C-c is likely to pose the same problem as C-c '. For icicle users, C-c will be shadowed by the keybinding for icicle-search-text-property. At least that's my current working hypothesis. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com
[O] day boundaries later than midnight?
Hi all, I found this thread from 2006 which talked about the possibility of org-agenda considering day boundaries later than midnight: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/369 I'm surely not the only night owls who regularly completes (or even schedules) tasks after midnight but before going to sleep. Yes, I know it's the healthiest way to live - but realistically it would be far more useful for me if org-agenda treated something like 4am as the day boundary. I understand from that thread that supporting this is technically quite tricky. Did any progress ever get made on this front since 2006, and if not, is it ever likely to? Thanks! Adam
[O] Equation references using RefTex
Hello, My apologies if this is a redundant topic but having searched the mailing list archives, it is not clear what the state of the art is at this time. I am trying to use org-mode as a replacement for tex and auctex/reftex, but I really miss the ability of reftex to keep track of equation labels. Can reftex keep track of equation labels in an org-mode document? I would love to be able to do C-c = and have identical behavior in org-mode and latex. Is anyone working on this? How can I help? Thanks, Stephen -- Sent with my mu4e
Re: [O] [babel] shell does not unquote
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: hi eric, the object is to make the code inside a babel shell block as similar to a real shell script as possible. also, calling it using #+call should be like calling it from another shell script. this isn't possible in babel at present. the script cannot use $@ for its positional parameters. it could use noweb, but that requires the creation of an extraneous block merely to do a call, instead of supplying the value in the call line. A couple of languages already support a :cmdline header argument. I've just added shell block support for :cmdline, so the following is now possible. #+begin_src sh :cmdline foo bar baz echo $2 #+end_src #+RESULTS: : bar if making this possible is not desirable, then i will not request it, but i wanted to explain why this object is not achieved with existing babel options that i am aware of. I hope the above is sufficient, if not I'm not personally able to do much more on this front, although I'm always happy to review patches. Best, thanks. samuel -- Eric Schulte https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte PGP: 0x614CA05D
Re: [O] mis-alignment in org-tables with Tibetan characters
Bastien b...@gnu.org writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: I've been using that patch or something like it for nearly a year now, with no adverse effects. I'm on the road right now, give me a day and I'll take a closer look at what I've got... Great -- thanks in advance! I'll then wait before releasing a new minor version and merging it into Emacs for Emacs 24.4. To other core maintainers: if you see important issues that needs to be fixed in maint, let me know. Sorry this took a while to get to... I think it was a little simpler than I thought -- at least I hope that's true, and I'm not missing something really obvious. There are two patches attached, a simple one that handles re-justification of table fields during field movement, and another that allows for narrowing of columns with double-width strings. The second patch is uglier, and doesn't work 100% well (you get misalignment if you try to narrow a double-wide to an odd number of single-width characters), but it's better than nothing. Please test! Eric From f03f4755b2d3e62d9f88845d93390a364805c131 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:56:18 +0800 Subject: [PATCH 1/9] Make table field justification respect string width --- lisp/org-table.el | 7 +-- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/org-table.el b/lisp/org-table.el index 520ac8a..33ae63e 100644 --- a/lisp/org-table.el +++ b/lisp/org-table.el @@ -973,14 +973,16 @@ Optional argument NEW may specify text to replace the current field content. (progn (setq s (match-string 1) o (match-string 0) - l (max 1 (- (match-end 0) (match-beginning 0) 3)) + l (max 1 + (- (org-string-width + (buffer-substring +(match-end 0) (match-beginning 0))) 3)) e (not (= (match-beginning 2) (match-end 2 (setq f (format (if num %%%ds %s %%-%ds %s) l (if e | (setq org-table-may-need-update t) )) n (format f s)) (if new - (if (= (length new) l) ;; FIXME: length - str-width? + (if (= (org-string-width new) l) (setq n (format f new)) (setq n (concat new |) org-table-may-need-update t))) (if (equal (string-to-char n) ?-) (setq n (concat n))) -- 1.8.5.4 From 85aee797a97194d9c29d7baac641f3849f7f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:46:33 +0800 Subject: [PATCH 2/9] Make table column narrowing play nice with variable-width strings --- lisp/org-table.el | 19 ++- 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/org-table.el b/lisp/org-table.el index 33ae63e..32dd025 100644 --- a/lisp/org-table.el +++ b/lisp/org-table.el @@ -758,7 +758,7 @@ When nil, simply write \#ERROR\ in corrupted fields.) (hfmt1 (concat (make-string sp2 ?-) %s (make-string sp1 ?-) +)) emptystrings links dates emph raise narrow - falign falign1 fmax f1 len c e space) + falign falign1 fmax f1 f2 len c e space) (untabify beg end) (remove-text-properties beg end '(org-cwidth t org-dwidth t display t)) ;; Check if we have links or dates @@ -843,10 +843,19 @@ When nil, simply write \#ERROR\ in corrupted fields.) (unless ( f1 1) (user-error Cannot narrow field starting with wide link \%s\ (match-string 0 xx))) - (add-text-properties f1 (length xx) (list 'org-cwidth t) xx) - (add-text-properties (- f1 2) f1 - (list 'display org-narrow-column-arrow) - xx) + (setq f2 (length xx)) + (if (= (org-string-width xx) + f2) + (setq f2 f1) + (setq f2 1) + (while ( (org-string-width (substring xx 0 f2)) + f1) + (setq f2 (1+ f2 + (add-text-properties f2 (length xx) (list 'org-cwidth t) xx) + (add-text-properties (if (= (string-width (substring xx (1- f2) f2)) 2) + (1- f2) (- f2 2)) f2 + (list 'display org-narrow-column-arrow) + xx) ;; Get the maximum width for each column (push (apply 'max (or fmax 1) 1 (mapcar 'org-string-width column)) lengths) -- 1.8.5.4
Re: [O] Proposal/request for input: slidify export for html slides
John Hendy jw.hendy at gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Charles Berry ccberry at ucsd.edu wrote:
[snip]
But there is some effort and overhead involved, so only the most
useful (IMO) have been mapped. Right now, `:noweb yes' will expand the
reference(s) in place before export, and `:exports none' will not export
the block. Maybe one day ...
Understood, and no worries. I'm making progress. When you say expand
references, I'm not sure I follow what that means. References =
references to variables? So something like :var something=something?
'References' refers to noweb references. See
http://orgmode.org/org.html#noweb
More a matter of what my workflow is (so the issue doesn't arise). I use
the cache=TRUE chunk option on the knitr side to save the results of
long
running computations. When I start work, I execute a src block that
loads
knitr and knits the *.Rnw (or *.Rmd, etc), which has the side effect of
loading the cached objects. Then I edit the *.org document. If I am
working on R code, I run the code interactively either from the src edit
buffer or I C-c C-c the src block. Its handy to leave the results in the
*.org buffer for reference - they get stripped on export. Maybe I edit
a figure caption (knitr option fig.cap=R character object), equations,
or text. When I am ready to see the formatted doc, I export via ravel,
knit, and view. The cached objects get rebuilt as needed.
Ah. I think I follow this. If you knit the exported .org - Rmd file
in the same R session that Org is using, if you change the .org and
re-export to .Rmd, knitr is smart enough not to re-run the code? Is
that what you mean?
Almost. ox-ravel does not call knitr. The ravel backends advice
`org-babel-exp-do-export' when a ravel backend runs so R code src blocks
are not run, but are turned into chunks (for knitr, Sweave, or ...) and
exported as such.
When you want to actually process the resulting document, you have to call
on knitr or some other R report generator to do the work.
That also must imply that export to .Rmd doesn't
execute any of the Org babel code, right (otherwise there would be no
benefit to your workflow since you'd be waiting for Org anyway)?
Correct for R src blocks. But emacs-lisp and other languages are treated as
under the parent backends.
If that's the case, I think I could roll with that -- I'd just have
:eval yes if exporting to .Rmd - knitr, and do a replace-string to
:eval no if I was going to export to Beamer.
In R scr blocks, :eval is ignored by ravel and so need not change when
ravel is run.
[snip]
I'm a bit hung up on including non-code-generated images. I'm working
through one of my presentations to convert to slidify (and may write
up a Worg tutorial or just one on my blog to add to collective
knowledge) but am not sure of the right universal Org syntax that
will work with multiple backends. I'm most used to something like
this:
#+begin_center
#+attr_backend :height {6cm, 400px, etc.}
[[./path/to/image.png]]
#+end_center
That's not seeming to work with ox-ravel thus far. I'd love not to
have to change the Org image syntax to straight markdown just for my
occasional use of slidify.
It's not related to ox-ravel, which uses the same transcoders as the parent
backends for everything except inline src and src blocks.
I'm not sure how to get what you seem to want.
Maybe use a custom link
http://orgmode.org/org.html#Adding-hyperlink-types
or ask about html/md links in a fresh thread?
HTH,
Chuck
Re: [O] Proposal/request for input: slidify export for html slides
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Charles Berry ccbe...@ucsd.edu wrote:
John Hendy jw.hendy at gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Charles Berry ccberry at ucsd.edu wrote:
[snip]
Ah. I think I follow this. If you knit the exported .org - Rmd file
in the same R session that Org is using, if you change the .org and
re-export to .Rmd, knitr is smart enough not to re-run the code? Is
that what you mean?
Almost. ox-ravel does not call knitr. The ravel backends advice
`org-babel-exp-do-export' when a ravel backend runs so R code src blocks
are not run, but are turned into chunks (for knitr, Sweave, or ...) and
exported as such.
When you want to actually process the resulting document, you have to call
on knitr or some other R report generator to do the work.
I think I stated it ambiguously before. I think we're on the same
page. Org - Rmd. Then process Rmd in an Emacs R session. If you
re-export from Org - Rmd, only new code block changes are re-run,
correct?
That also must imply that export to .Rmd doesn't
execute any of the Org babel code, right (otherwise there would be no
benefit to your workflow since you'd be waiting for Org anyway)?
Correct for R src blocks. But emacs-lisp and other languages are treated as
under the parent backends.
If that's the case, I think I could roll with that -- I'd just have
:eval yes if exporting to .Rmd - knitr, and do a replace-string to
:eval no if I was going to export to Beamer.
In R scr blocks, :eval is ignored by ravel and so need not change when
ravel is run.
Ah, that makes more sense. I guess I had all mine set to :eval no and
never experienced that ox-ravel doesn't actually run them. Thanks for
that.
[snip]
I'm a bit hung up on including non-code-generated images. I'm working
through one of my presentations to convert to slidify (and may write
up a Worg tutorial or just one on my blog to add to collective
knowledge) but am not sure of the right universal Org syntax that
will work with multiple backends. I'm most used to something like
this:
#+begin_center
#+attr_backend :height {6cm, 400px, etc.}
[[./path/to/image.png]]
#+end_center
That's not seeming to work with ox-ravel thus far. I'd love not to
have to change the Org image syntax to straight markdown just for my
occasional use of slidify.
It's not related to ox-ravel, which uses the same transcoders as the parent
backends for everything except inline src and src blocks.
I'm not sure how to get what you seem to want.
What I mean is how do I just add an image via existing Org syntax and
get it sized correctly in the Org - Rmd - html process? None of the
attributes seem to be carried through to markdown with ox-md or
ox-ravel. So my question might be more clear if I said, Say you have
an image that's 1600x900px and you want it in your slidify deck at
400px tall. How would you do that?
ox-ravel works fine by just specifying knitr fig.height/width if
you're going to generate your plots during the process of knitting.
You create the plot at exactly the size you want. But how might you
resize an existing plot depending on the format? If you want an html
equivalent to the latex article class, you might want a different plot
size than if you want to export to slidify. Would one have to go
through and replace all the fig.height/width arguments and re-run all
the plot code just to get proper image sizing? Once there are
perfectly good images laying around... it doesn't seem like one should
have to re-generate them just because a different size is desired.
Maybe use a custom link
http://orgmode.org/org.html#Adding-hyperlink-types
or ask about html/md links in a fresh thread?
I posted another ML post along these lines earlier today. Since
markdown is just a middle destination onto html, I'm interested in
getting Org's built-in image attributes passed along for the whole
trip. I don't see a way to even center an image at present. The direct
img tag could be put in Org... but that breaks the spirit of
keeping Org's syntax flexible enough to let me export to another
backend if I want. Thus, the ideal goal would be something like:
#+begin_center
#+attr_latex: :height 6cm
#+attr_html: :height 400px
#+attr_ravel: :height 400px
[[./img.png]]
#+end_center
Thus I get a centered image at some appropriate size for each backend.
Otherwise I'll be having to do #+begin/end_latex and #+begin/end_html
for every image in my document.
Does that make more sense?
John
HTH,
Chuck
Re: [O] external setup file for org-html-preamble?
Yes! That was exactly it! Thank you. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Peter Salazar cycleofs...@gmail.com writes: Just now for simplicity, I'm trying to move the preamble and postamble to an external setup file. In my org-mode file, I now have #+SETUPFILE: setup.org and my setup.org file looks like this: http://ix.io/apQ However, when I try to export to HTML, I get Invalid format string Can anyone spot the problem in my setup file? http://ix.io/apQ You need to escape % in the first BIND value. See `org-html-preamble-format' docstring. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
[O] copy title text string from #+TITLE field?
Next question: is there a way to take the text from the #+TITLE: field of an org file and insert it, as text, somewhere else within the file (i.e. inside an HTML block)? I can't do this manually because my various org files all use an #+INCLUDE: reference to the same org file, which contains some HTML blocks. For each different org file, I'd like to copy the title text string from #+TITLE field and insert it inside an H1/H1 field in an HTML block in the included file. Is this possible? Thanks!
Re: [O] copy title text string from #+TITLE field?
Peter Salazar cycleofs...@gmail.com writes:
Next question: is there a way to take the text from the #+TITLE: field
of an org file and insert it, as text, somewhere else within the file
(i.e. inside an HTML block)?
I can't do this manually because my various org files all use an
#+INCLUDE: reference to the same org file, which contains some HTML
blocks. For each different org file, I'd like to copy the title text
string from #+TITLE field and insert it inside an H1/H1 field in
an HTML block in the included file.
Is this possible? Thanks!
{{{title}}} should do it. See
(info (org) Macro replacement)
--
Nick
Re: [O] copy title text string from #+TITLE field?
Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com writes:
Peter Salazar cycleofs...@gmail.com writes:
Next question: is there a way to take the text from the #+TITLE: field
of an org file and insert it, as text, somewhere else within the file
(i.e. inside an HTML block)?
I can't do this manually because my various org files all use an
#+INCLUDE: reference to the same org file, which contains some HTML
blocks. For each different org file, I'd like to copy the title text
string from #+TITLE field and insert it inside an H1/H1 field in
an HTML block in the included file.
Is this possible? Thanks!
{{{title}}} should do it. See
(info (org) Macro replacement)
Actually, I'm not sure it will do: macro replacement takes place during
export, so it may or may not be enough, depending on what you really
want to do.
--
Nick
[O] bug#5753: something, something, org-mode, shift-select, something
Hi Jackson, thanks for your thorough reply. Can you try the two recipes I gave here: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5753#26 and tell me where it does not produce the expected output? Thanks in advance, -- Bastien
