Re: [O] email ui choices?
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: Juergen Christoffel jc.or...@cynix.net writes: I wonder if it's even necessary to have *any* sort of MUA set up in Emacs, if all you're doing is sending email? Many email programs paper over the distinction between sending and receiving/reading email, but I think the Emacs-based tools preserve that distinction pretty well. I'm wondering that too now! Message-mode is built in, and I use it in conjunction with the msmtp program, like so: (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) (setq sendmail-program msmtp) thank you for the pointer to msmtp Check the docstring for the *variable* `message-send-mail-function', and that should get you started. If you're only using a single account for sending, that should be significantly simpler. Look at `user-mail-address' and all that. Then just call `compose-mail'! To answer the original question, the org-mime library in Org's contrib/lisp directory is probably what you want for htmlizing buffers and sending them as email. I've made some progress on this but it's not quite perfect. I have this function: (defun mime-send-mail () org-mime-subtree and HTMLize (interactive) (org-mark-subtree) ;; wish I could get the PARENT headline here! ;; then figure out how to set subject to that headline! (let ((subject (nth 4 (org-heading-components (org-mime-subtree) (insert \nBest,\nMP.\n) (org-mime-htmlize) ;; had to redefine so it could be called non-interactively (command-execute 'mml-attach-file) (message-goto-to)) ) I've been thinking about it, and I would love to just have a link to the student paper within org itself, and have the attachment added automatically after org-mime-htmlize runs. I'm not sure exactly how to do that but if I figure it out I will let the group know. I vaguely recall I've seen other people describe such systems so I would appreciate guidance if it's available. Thanks again! m Hope that helps, Eric
[O] importing and compliting contacts [WAS:email ui choices?]
Also, I'm wondering what the best way is to deal with contacts. Can I import my existing contacts into org-contacts? And if so, do I get tab completion in a message-mode buffer for those contacts?
Re: [O] email ui choices?
Juergen Christoffel jc.or...@cynix.net writes: On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 08:16:29PM -0400, Matt Price wrote: [...] I want to fill out this form, key in a command, and have emacs prompt me for an email (or look the email up somewhere?) and generate a mail buffer with this subtree as its contents; optionally attach a .doc or .pdf attachement; and send the htmlized buffer for me, saving the sent mail either to my IMAP Sent folder or my local mbox Sent folder. Matt, you could either use Emacs' RMAIL-Mode to do this. Or you could try mutt (which is the perfect companion to things like org-mode, IMO) als your mailer. It would be nice if it had access to my contacts, either via GMail or through thunderbbird (those are synced, I think). I don't know about RMAIL and IMAP/Gmail (as I switched from RMAIL to mutt years ago) but you should find hwotos for setting up mutt in conjuntion with Gmail with Google. I wonder if it's even necessary to have *any* sort of MUA set up in Emacs, if all you're doing is sending email? Many email programs paper over the distinction between sending and receiving/reading email, but I think the Emacs-based tools preserve that distinction pretty well. Message-mode is built in, and I use it in conjunction with the msmtp program, like so: (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) (setq sendmail-program msmtp) Check the docstring for the *variable* `message-send-mail-function', and that should get you started. If you're only using a single account for sending, that should be significantly simpler. Look at `user-mail-address' and all that. Then just call `compose-mail'! To answer the original question, the org-mime library in Org's contrib/lisp directory is probably what you want for htmlizing buffers and sending them as email. Hope that helps, Eric
Re: [O] email ui choices?
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 08:16:29PM -0400, Matt Price wrote: [...] I want to fill out this form, key in a command, and have emacs prompt me for an email (or look the email up somewhere?) and generate a mail buffer with this subtree as its contents; optionally attach a .doc or .pdf attachement; and send the htmlized buffer for me, saving the sent mail either to my IMAP Sent folder or my local mbox Sent folder. Matt, you could either use Emacs' RMAIL-Mode to do this. Or you could try mutt (which is the perfect companion to things like org-mode, IMO) als your mailer. It would be nice if it had access to my contacts, either via GMail or through thunderbbird (those are synced, I think). I don't know about RMAIL and IMAP/Gmail (as I switched from RMAIL to mutt years ago) but you should find hwotos for setting up mutt in conjuntion with Gmail with Google. Regards, JC -- A great many of today's security technologies are secure only because no-one has ever bothered attacking them. -- Peter Gutmann
Re: [O] email ui choices?
Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: [...] I've been thinking about it, and I would love to just have a link to the student paper within org itself, and have the attachment added automatically after org-mime-htmlize runs. I'm not sure exactly how to do that but if I figure it out I will let the group know. I vaguely recall I've seen other people describe such systems so I would appreciate guidance if it's available. I'll include a shameless-plug-cum-general-recommendation: I use org-attach a lot to keep files associated with Org headings, and to me this feels like a natural use-case for that. I wrote a library called Gnorb (in the package manager) that provides some glue-code between Gnus and Org (and BBDB), and there are a few hooks in there that might be useful to you. It sounds like you're digesting quite a bit all at once, so you probably don't want to install all of Gnorb. If you're interested in some of the bits, I might be able to peel those off into separate functions: specifically, taking files from the org-attach directory and attaching them to outgoing emails being sent from an Org heading. I can't promise I could do it cleanly, but I'd be happy to look into it. Eric
Re: [O] email ui choices?
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) (setq sendmail-program msmtp) Emacs is pretty good at talking to smtp servers. You can simply add a header like this to your message (e.g. via `gnus-posting-styles' or `message-default-headers'): X-Message-Smtp-Method: smtp smtp.email.com 465 rasmus For saving the sent mail, Gnus uses the GCC header. I don't know what you'd do in the case of plain message.el. Rasmus -- Slaa Patienten ihjel, saa siger Feberen Pas
Re: [O] email ui choices?
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) (setq sendmail-program msmtp) Emacs is pretty good at talking to smtp servers. You can simply add a header like this to your message (e.g. via `gnus-posting-styles' or `message-default-headers'): X-Message-Smtp-Method: smtp smtp.email.com 465 rasmus For saving the sent mail, Gnus uses the GCC header. I don't know what you'd do in the case of plain message.el. I looked at my .gnus.el file, and found this: ;;; the following might be obviated by the X-SMTP-METHOD headers, ;;; except I don't think it will work for my case: the header is supposed to contain (defun cg-feed-msmtp () (if (message-mail-p) (save-excursion (let* ((from (save-restriction (message-narrow-to-headers) (message-fetch-field from))) (account (cond ;; I use email address as account label in ~/.msmtprc ((string-match e...@ericabrahamsen.net from) ea) ;; many accounts... )) (setq message-sendmail-extra-arguments (list '-a account)) (setq message-sendmail-envelope-from 'header) (add-hook 'message-send-mail-hook 'cg-feed-msmtp) the header is suppose to contain WHAT?!? I will never know how that comment was supposed to end, and it eats at me... E
Re: [O] email ui choices?
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) (setq sendmail-program msmtp) Emacs is pretty good at talking to smtp servers. You can simply add a header like this to your message (e.g. via `gnus-posting-styles' or `message-default-headers'): X-Message-Smtp-Method: smtp smtp.email.com 465 rasmus For saving the sent mail, Gnus uses the GCC header. I don't know what you'd do in the case of plain message.el. I looked at my .gnus.el file, and found this: ;;; the following might be obviated by the X-SMTP-METHOD headers, ;;; except I don't think it will work for my case: the header is supposed to contain How very frustrating My guess is that you have got bit rot on your system. Better call a professional. In any case, I have moved ALL sending configuration to gnus-posting-style and it's brilliant. Before I was messing with hooks to change variables before dispatching. (setq gnus-posting-styles '(((lambda () (rasmus/gnus-posting-style-identify '(.*) '((To. mymail\\.net)) nil mymail)) (GCC nnimap+mail:mymail/sent) (X-Message-SMTP-Method smtp mymail.net 465 rasmus) (signature (or (ignore-errors (cookie (concat user-emacs-directory signatures) )) Send from my Emacs)) (Face (gnus-random-face)) (address ras...@mymail.net) (Organization nil) (eval (setq smtpmail-stream-type 'ssl))) ;; work email omitted ((lambda () (rasmus/gnus-posting-style-identify '(gmx\\|gmane\\|sunsite\\|emacs) '((To . rasmus@gmx\\.us)) '(message-news-p) gmx)) (name Rasmus) (address ras...@gmx.us) (Organization nil) (GCC nnimap+mail:gmx/sent) (X-Message-SMTP-Method smtp mail.gmx.com 587 ras...@gmx.us) (eval (setq smtpmail-stream-type nil) `gnus-configure-posting-styles' is handy when changing profile OTG. Rasmus -- The Kids call him Billy the Saint
Re: [O] email ui choices?
Rasmus writes: In any case, I have moved ALL sending configuration to gnus-posting-style and it's brilliant. Before I was messing with hooks to change variables before dispatching. I agree, gnus-posting-styles is the way to go. Check: (info (gnus) Posting Styles) Best, -- Jorge.
Re: [O] importing and compliting contacts [WAS:email ui choices?]
On 2015-07-14 Tue 04:12, Matt Price wrote: Also, I'm wondering what the best way is to deal with contacts. Can I import my existing contacts into org-contacts? And if so, do I get tab completion in a message-mode buffer for those contacts? I wrote a little python script that reads vCard files and generates org-contacts: https://gist.github.com/tmalsburg/9747104 Titus signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [O] importing and compliting contacts [WAS:email ui choices?]
Matt Price writes: Also, I'm wondering what the best way is to deal with contacts. Can I import my existing contacts into org-contacts? Where do you have your contacts right now? And if so, do I get tab completion in a message-mode buffer for those contacts? Yes, at least I'm sure about it in the default message mode which is the one that I use. -- Jorge.
[O] long code blocks making Org Mode very slow
I'm trying to run a long Python code block (~4000 lines) in org mode. The code is sandwiched between: #+begin_src python python code block #+end_src It runs fine, but org mode becomes incredibly slow - when typing text there is about a 10 second delay before the character appears on the screen. If I reduce the number of lines of code in the block there is a noticeable increase in speed. I am not using line numbers, and the delay is not ameliorated by turning off fontification. If I add a semi-colon before #+begin_src, to comment it off (get rid of src environment), then org mode returns to it's normal speed. Do I just have to accept that long code blocks can't be entered into Org Mode? Any help would be appreciated. I am running Org Mode (version 8.2.10) on Windows 8. Thanks Angus M
Re: [O] long code blocks making Org Mode very slow
Angus M anguscmelvi...@gmail.com writes: I'm trying to run a long Python code block (~4000 lines) in org mode. The code is sandwiched between: #+begin_src python python code block #+end_src It runs fine, but org mode becomes incredibly slow - when typing text there is about a 10 second delay before the character appears on the screen. If I reduce the number of lines of code in the block there is a noticeable increase in speed. That's because a) emacs is single-threaded and b) babel blocks are executed synchronously. emacs waits for the code block to finish executing before going on with its business. See e.g. the thread at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/83704 I am not using line numbers, and the delay is not ameliorated by turning off fontification. If I add a semi-colon before #+begin_src, to comment it off (get rid of src environment), then org mode returns to it's normal speed. Do I just have to accept that long code blocks can't be entered into Org Mode? Now I'm confused: are you executing the code block or aren't you? IIUC, code blocks can be of arbitrary length: but if you try to run one, you gotta wait till it finishes. Is that what you are complaining about or do you see something else? Any help would be appreciated. I am running Org Mode (version 8.2.10) on Windows 8. Nick
Re: [O] ox-latex: default packages cleaning
On 2015-07-07, at 16:53, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: Hi, Hi, and sorry for my delay – I have a huge email backlog... We could do some cleaning of org-default-package-alist before Org 8.3. Yes, yes, yes! * tolerance Why is \\tolerance=1000 part of org-default-package-alist? Is this value good for all languages? If we keep it, it should be configurable. But people who explicitly wants this behavior can probably add it themselves. If it's a means to archive high-quality paragraphs, maybe microtype is probably the 'proper' fix... My suggestion: forget about \tolerance. It’s low-level TeX stuff, hardly anybody knows what it does, really (it is one of the dozen or two parameters governing the line-breaking algorithm), and most people would not see any difference anyway. I wouldn’t add microtype, OTOH. One reason: it issues a lot of warnings when you use a font it does not know. It doesn’t hurt, but some people don’t like warnings. Also, some people might not really /want/ microtype – it messes around with font widths, and even with the default settings (which are rather conservative), it can look a bit strange. * Fixltx2e This packages is depreciated with TL2015 cf. LaTeX News 22. We can use \RequirePackage[current]{latexrelease} but there's no point in that AFAIK latexrelease only useful for backwards compatibility. Didn’t even know that. * marvosym¹ * Wasysym² My opinion: remove both. Rasmus Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] email ui choices?
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: [...] I'll include a shameless-plug-cum-general-recommendation: I use org-attach a lot to keep files associated with Org headings, and to me this feels like a natural use-case for that. Yes, it sounds like a pretty good idea. I am trying to figure out a couple of attachment issues; to start with, I was hoping to set a dnd-handler, anmd have drag-and-dropping local files create an attachment. I am close, but the actual attachment isn't being created. This is what I have: (setq dnd-protocol-alist `((^\\(file\\):// . mwp-file-dnd) ,@dnd-protocol-alist)) (defun mwp-file-dnd (uri action) (cond ((eq major-mode 'org-mode) ;; (message uri) (insert [[%s][Description Property) (org-attach-attach uri nil lns ) ;; this appears to work, but doesn't create the link ) (t (let ((dnd-protocol-alist (rassq-delete-all 'mwp-file-dnd (copy-alist dnd-protocol-alist (dnd-handle-one-url nil action uri))) )) I wrote a library called Gnorb (in the package manager) that provides some glue-code between Gnus and Org (and BBDB), and there are a few hooks in there that might be useful to you. It sounds like you're digesting quite a bit all at once, so you probably don't want to install all of Gnorb. If you're interested in some of the bits, I might be able to peel those off into separate functions: specifically, taking files from the org-attach directory and attaching them to outgoing emails being sent from an Org heading. I can't promise I could do it cleanly, but I'd be happy to look into it. If you could do that, that would be just super. Right now my lone mailing function sends me to message-mode: (defun mime-send-mail () org-mime-subtree and HTMLize (interactive) (org-mark-subtree) (let ((subject (nth 4 (org-heading-components (org-mime-subtree) (insert \nBest,\nMP.\n) (org-mime-htmlize) (command-execute 'mml-attach-file) (message-goto-to) ) ) mml-attach-file asks a whole bunch of questions about mime type, etc. I don't know how to fill those values in automatically, but I guess it would be, in pseudo code (dolist (thisfile org-attach-all-attachments) (mml-attach-file thisfile FILL IN OTHER ARGUMENTS) If you have something like that in gnorb that'd be awesome. Thanks once again, Matt
[O] file or headline-local template for new subtree?
I have this new system, in which I create a new subtree for every paper I grade. I'd love to have the new subtree automatically populated by a mostly-empty table on cration. Is this something I can do on a per-file basis; or perhaps even something I can change with every level 1 heading? I can think of a couple uses for this, actually. Thx, matt
Re: [O] long code blocks making Org Mode very slow
Angus M anguscmelvi...@gmail.com writes: I'm trying to run a long Python code block (~4000 lines) in org mode. The code is sandwiched between: #+begin_src python python code block #+end_src It runs fine, but org mode becomes incredibly slow - when typing text there is about a 10 second delay before the character appears on the screen. If I reduce the number of lines of code in the block there is a noticeable increase in speed. I am not using line numbers, and the delay is not ameliorated by turning off fontification. If I add a semi-colon before #+begin_src, to comment it off (get rid of src environment), then org mode returns to it's normal speed. The best thing to do, now, is run the profiler: M-x profiler-start ... type one character (which takes 10 s to be rendered) M-x profiler-report Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban
Re: [O] file or headline-local template for new subtree?
Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: I have this new system, in which I create a new subtree for every paper I grade. I'd love to have the new subtree automatically populated by a mostly-empty table on cration. Is this something I can do on a per-file basis; or perhaps even something I can change with every level 1 heading? I can think of a couple uses for this, actually. I'm fond of org-structure-template-alist, but it might not be powerful enough for what you want here. On a per file basis you could bind some letter in org-structure-template-alist. ATM it cannot guess how to insert a subtree. But there's org-insert-subheading. Rasmus -- El Rey ha muerto. ¡Larga vida al Rey!
Re: [O] long code blocks making Org Mode very slow
Sebastien Vauban sva-news@... writes: Angus M anguscmelville@... writes: I'm trying to run a long Python code block (~4000 lines) in org mode. The code is sandwiched between: #+begin_src python python code block #+end_src It runs fine, but org mode becomes incredibly slow - when typing text there is about a 10 second delay before the character appears on the screen. If I reduce the number of lines of code in the block there is a noticeable increase in speed. I am not using line numbers, and the delay is not ameliorated by turning off fontification. If I add a semi-colon before #+begin_src, to comment it off (get rid of src environment), then org mode returns to it's normal speed. The best thing to do, now, is run the profiler: M-x profiler-start ... type one character (which takes 10 s to be rendered) M-x profiler-report Best regards, Seb Many thanks. I've run the profiler, but am not quite sure what to make of the result (fully expanded): - ...1199 99% - while 1194 98% - cond 1194 98% - setq1194 98% - org-footnote-at-reference-p1194 98% - if1194 98% - save-excursion 1179 97% - org-footnote-in-valid-context-p 1179 97% - let1179 97% - unwind-protect1179 97% - progn1179 97% - not 1179 97% - or 1179 97% - org-in-block-p1177 97% - let 1177 97% - unwind-protect 1177 97% - progn 1177 97% - catch 1177 97% - let 1177 97% - mapc1168 96% - #lambda 0x1bd609a3 1168 96% - let 1168 96% - if 1168 96% - org-between-regexps-p 1168 96% - let1168 96% - unwind-protect1168 96% - progn1167 96% - let 1167 96% - or 672 55% - save-excursion 672 55% outline-next-heading478 39% outline-previous-heading193 15% - save-excursion 495 40% - and495 40% - or291 24% - org-at-regexp-p1 0% - catch 1 0% - save-excursion 1 0% let 1 0% not 115 9% - save-excursion 9 0% outline-previous-heading 8 0% outline-next-heading 1 0% - org-in-verbatim-emphasis 2 0% - let 2 0% - unwind-protect 2 0% - progn 2 0% - and 2 0% - org-in-regexp 2 0% - catch 2 0% - let 2 0% - save-excursion 1 0% - beginning-of-line 1 0%
Re: [O] long code blocks making Org Mode very slow
Nick Dokos ndokos at gmail.com writes: Many thanks for your help Nick - see comments below I'm trying to run a long Python code block (~4000 lines) in org mode. The code is sandwiched between: #+begin_src python python code block #+end_src It runs fine, but org mode becomes incredibly slow - when typing text there is about a 10 second delay before the character appears on the screen. If I reduce the number of lines of code in the block there is a noticeable increase in speed. That's because a) emacs is single-threaded and b) babel blocks are executed synchronously. emacs waits for the code block to finish executing before going on with its business. Perhaps I should have been clearer: org mode is incredibly slow to respond (to a key press or to scrolling) even before a block is executed. It is not an issue with waiting for a code block to finish executing. I am not using line numbers, and the delay is not ameliorated by turning off fontification. If I add a semi-colon before #+begin_src, to comment it off (get rid of src environment), then org mode returns to it's normal speed. Do I just have to accept that long code blocks can't be entered into Org Mode? Now I'm confused: are you executing the code block or aren't you? IIUC, code blocks can be of arbitrary length: but if you try to run one, you gotta wait till it finishes. Is that what you are complaining about or do you see something else? No, I wasn't executing the code block. I just wanted to point out that the org mode slow down was only when the system could see that the long code block was present, i.e. by removing the src environment, by commenting off the #+begin_src marker, the delay disappeared.
Re: [O] email ui choices?
Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: [...] I'll include a shameless-plug-cum-general-recommendation: I use org-attach a lot to keep files associated with Org headings, and to me this feels like a natural use-case for that. Yes, it sounds like a pretty good idea. I am trying to figure out a couple of attachment issues; to start with, I was hoping to set a dnd-handler, anmd have drag-and-dropping local files create an attachment. I am close, but the actual attachment isn't being created. This is what I have: (setq dnd-protocol-alist `((^\\(file\\):// . mwp-file-dnd) ,@dnd-protocol-alist)) (defun mwp-file-dnd (uri action) (cond ((eq major-mode 'org-mode) ;; (message uri) (insert [[%s][Description Property) (org-attach-attach uri nil lns ) ;; this appears to work, but doesn't create the link ) (t (let ((dnd-protocol-alist (rassq-delete-all 'mwp-file-dnd (copy-alist dnd-protocol-alist (dnd-handle-one-url nil action uri))) )) Unfortunately I've never used drag-and-drop anything, so won't really be able to help there. [...] It sounds like you're digesting quite a bit all at once, so you probably don't want to install all of Gnorb. If you're interested in some of the bits, I might be able to peel those off into separate functions: specifically, taking files from the org-attach directory and attaching them to outgoing emails being sent from an Org heading. I can't promise I could do it cleanly, but I'd be happy to look into it. If you could do that, that would be just super. Right now my lone mailing function sends me to message-mode: (defun mime-send-mail () org-mime-subtree and HTMLize (interactive) (org-mark-subtree) (let ((subject (nth 4 (org-heading-components (org-mime-subtree) (insert \nBest,\nMP.\n) (org-mime-htmlize) (command-execute 'mml-attach-file) (message-goto-to) ) ) mml-attach-file asks a whole bunch of questions about mime type, etc. I don't know how to fill those values in automatically, but I guess it would be, in pseudo code (dolist (thisfile org-attach-all-attachments) (mml-attach-file thisfile FILL IN OTHER ARGUMENTS) If you have something like that in gnorb that'd be awesome. Thanks once again, I've extracted some code that ought to be useful. (defun org-attachment-list (optional id) Get a list of files (absolute filenames) attached to the current heading, or the heading indicated by optional argument ID. (when (featurep 'org-attach) (let* ((attach-dir (save-excursion (when id (org-id-goto id)) (org-attach-dir t))) (files (mapcar (lambda (f) (expand-file-name f attach-dir)) (org-attach-file-list attach-dir files))) (defun query-attach-files (files) (map-y-or-n-p (lambda (a) (format Attach %s to outgoing message? (file-name-nondirectory a))) (lambda (a) (mml-attach-file a (mm-default-file-encoding a) nil attachment)) files '(file files attach))) Then your entry point function could use those functions: (defun mime-send-mail () org-mime-subtree and HTMLize (interactive) (org-mark-subtree) (let ((subject (nth 4 (org-heading-components))) (files (org-attachment-list))) (org-mime-subtree) (insert \nBest,\nMP.\n) (org-mime-htmlize) (query-attach-files files) (message-goto-to))) See how that works for now -- there will be plenty of adjustments you might want to make. One thing that occurred to me is, because `org-mime-subtree' uses the export process, you can use property substitution in the body of the subtree/email. So if you have a property like GRADE or something, you can insert that into the body at export time using {{{property(GRADE)}}}. You didn't really ask for that, but I'll bet it might come in handy. Eric
Re: [O] email ui choices?
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 07:10:20AM -0400, Matt Price wrote: [...] (defun mime-send-mail () org-mime-subtree and HTMLize (interactive) (org-mark-subtree) ;; wish I could get the PARENT headline here! ;; then figure out how to set subject to that headline! Matt, you can get to the PARENT headline like this: (defun org-inspect () (interactive) (org-mark-subtree) (save-excursion (re-search-backward ^\\* ) (message (nth 4 (org-heading-components))) (sit-for 2))) and still have your marked subtree afterwards. Inserting these as headers should be possible: - set up a buffer with your subtree - go to the beginning of the buffer - add To: your target address - add Subject: the heading component - add empty line Call (mail-send-and-exit) to send the message. Tested in Aquamacs under OSX with its defaults, this brought up a Thunderbird [*] window with the To and Subject filled in from the buffer. Selecting another MUA via Emacs' variables might work the same. --jc [*] Yes, while I use mutt, Thunderbird is, for organizational reasons, my unbeloved default mailer on this machine. -- A great many of today's security technologies are secure only because no-one has ever bothered attacking them. -- Peter Gutmann
Re: [O] email ui choices?
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Juergen Christoffel jc.or...@cynix.net wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 07:10:20AM -0400, Matt Price wrote: [...] (defun mime-send-mail () org-mime-subtree and HTMLize (interactive) (org-mark-subtree) ;; wish I could get the PARENT headline here! ;; then figure out how to set subject to that headline! Matt, you can get to the PARENT headline like this: (defun org-inspect () (interactive) (org-mark-subtree) (save-excursion (re-search-backward ^\\* ) (message (nth 4 (org-heading-components))) (sit-for 2))) and still have your marked subtree afterwards. Inserting these as headers should be possible: - set up a buffer with your subtree - go to the beginning of the buffer - add To: your target address - add Subject: the heading component - add empty line Call (mail-send-and-exit) to send the message. Tested in Aquamacs under OSX with its defaults, this brought up a Thunderbird [*] window with the To and Subject filled in from the buffer. Selecting another MUA via Emacs' variables might work the same. Huh, that is totally cool. Do you think it would be possible to do the same thing with a mime/multipart message? WHen I try to run org-mime-htmlize first, thunderbird doesn't recognize the parts. --jc [*] Yes, while I use mutt, Thunderbird is, for organizational reasons, my unbeloved default mailer on this machine. -- A great many of today's security technologies are secure only because no-one has ever bothered attacking them. -- Peter Gutmann
Re: [O] email ui choices?
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) (setq sendmail-program msmtp) Emacs is pretty good at talking to smtp servers. You can simply add a header like this to your message (e.g. via `gnus-posting-styles' or `message-default-headers'): X-Message-Smtp-Method: smtp smtp.email.com 465 rasmus For saving the sent mail, Gnus uses the GCC header. I don't know what you'd do in the case of plain message.el. I looked at my .gnus.el file, and found this: ;;; the following might be obviated by the X-SMTP-METHOD headers, ;;; except I don't think it will work for my case: the header is supposed to contain How very frustrating My guess is that you have got bit rot on your system. Better call a professional. In any case, I have moved ALL sending configuration to gnus-posting-style and it's brilliant. Before I was messing with hooks to change variables before dispatching. (setq gnus-posting-styles '(((lambda () (rasmus/gnus-posting-style-identify '(.*) '((To. mymail\\.net)) nil mymail)) (GCC nnimap+mail:mymail/sent) (X-Message-SMTP-Method smtp mymail.net 465 rasmus) (signature (or (ignore-errors (cookie (concat user-emacs-directory signatures) )) Send from my Emacs)) (Face (gnus-random-face)) (address ras...@mymail.net) (Organization nil) (eval (setq smtpmail-stream-type 'ssl))) ;; work email omitted ((lambda () (rasmus/gnus-posting-style-identify '(gmx\\|gmane\\|sunsite\\|emacs) '((To . rasmus@gmx\\.us)) '(message-news-p) gmx)) (name Rasmus) (address ras...@gmx.us) (Organization nil) (GCC nnimap+mail:gmx/sent) (X-Message-SMTP-Method smtp mail.gmx.com 587 ras...@gmx.us) (eval (setq smtpmail-stream-type nil) `gnus-configure-posting-styles' is handy when changing profile OTG. But how does this handle composing new blank messages? What does `rasmus/gnus-posting-style-identity' do exactly? E
Re: [O] ox-latex: default packages cleaning
On 2015-07-07, at 21:35, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to second microtype. In fact as far as I know, now a days it is recommended to load that for almost all documents with significant text on TeX.SX. As I wrote a minute ago, I would rather not add microtype, though it's a minor thing, really. I would also suggest removing inputenc. At the moment, it is loaded with the AUTO option. AFAIK, this is redundant since most recent (meaning for quite a few years) TeX engines already use the encoding of the file if nothing is specified. Can you elaborate on that? AFAIK, XeTeX and LuaTeX use UTF-8 by default, but pdfetex (which is the default LaTeX engine) does not. And quite a lot of people ose pdfetex (me included;-)). I haven't heard about any heuristic determination of encoding by TeX (and I hope nothing like that happens, since it could be disastrous). The next one would be fontenc, now it is loaded with T1. I'm not sure if this is needed. Maybe LaTeX experts like Marcin or Fabrice could comment. Thanks for calling me an expert, though I'm not one regarding fonts and their encodings;-). With fontenc, the thing is tricky. I do not know much about other languages, but you actually can't use LaTeX to typeset texts in Polish without changing the default LaTeX's font encoding (which is OT1, and it doesn't support some Polish letters). (Usually, I do not use fontenc for that, since there is a specialized package for Polish typesetting.) I guess that removing fontenc for non-English texts might lead to erroneous results – at least in case of presence of certain Polish words (e.g., some names in bibliographies). I guess we don’t want that. OTOH, one thing we /might/ want to add is \usepackage{lmodern}. The Latin Modern family of fonts is a drop-in replacement for the default Computer Modern, but with all sorts of accented characters. Using this font family has the advantage that accented characters are not build from letters and accents, but are single glyphs in the font. AFAIR, this makes words containing accented letters hyphenatable. Not a huge gain, but sometimes may be important (especially in some languages, and with narrow columns). We could also take this opportunity to provide users an easy way to switch between TeX engines. I second that! Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] file or headline-local template for new subtree?
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: I have this new system, in which I create a new subtree for every paper I grade. I'd love to have the new subtree automatically populated by a mostly-empty table on cration. Is this something I can do on a per-file basis; or perhaps even something I can change with every level 1 heading? I can think of a couple uses for this, actually. I'm fond of org-structure-template-alist, but it might not be powerful enough for what you want here. On a per file basis you could bind some letter in org-structure-template-alist. ATM it cannot guess how to insert a subtree. But there's org-insert-subheading. Something I do alot of is have Org Capture templates as files. This lets me write a more complex capture template (in my case for one of several “roles” that I take on ad-hoc but recurring basis during meetings). I call the template with an entry like the following in org-capture-templates. (Mg Grammarian entry (file+headline ~/Documents/OrgMaster/org/Toastmasters.org Miscellaneous and Non-Goal roles 2015) (file ~/.init/emacs/org-capture-templates/grammarian.org_template) :jump-to-captured t :immediate-finish t) In this specific case, it places the entry under a special pre-defined Org heading, but I could always call org-capture with a `C-0' (zero) prefix to insert a template at point. I can edit the template file as things change, and it can be pretty complex (some of my represent Projects: A header, several sub headers as tasks, etc.).