Re: [ANN] Emergency bugfix release: Org mode 9.7.5
Ihor Radchenko writes: > I just released Org mode 9.7.5 that fixes a critical vulnerability. > The release is coordinated with emergency Emacs 29.4 release. Thank you a lot for your diligent and careful work on this! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Attaching tentative patch that makes Org mode throw an error when a > prompt is requested for an external URI. LGTM! Thanks. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org
Hi Ihor, Ihor Radchenko writes: > However, the page did not get updated. May you please check the build > logs? Is there anything fishy going on there? https://builds.sr.ht/~bzg/job/1246209 still says: "The remote resource "https://tracker.orgmode.org/news.org; is considered unsafe, and will not be downloaded." I've committed this: https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/orgweb/commit/f494af7c2f Perhaps there is a buggy combinaison of `org-resource-download-policy' and `org-safe-remote-resources' in general, in which case this needs to get fixed -- I didn't test further. If this does not work, I will have another look this afternoon. Thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] function and symbol for headline and olp for org-capture-templates
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Nafiz Islam writes: > >> Craig Topham has cleared me to contribute to Emacs. > > Bastien, may you please check the FSF records? Yes, things are okay. Thanks Nafiz! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] Add support for shortdoc link type
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bruno Cardoso writes: >>>> Please, proceed with the copyright agreement form. >>> >>> Thank you very much, Max. Just sent the form. >> >> Hi all. My copyright assignment with the FSF is complete. > > Bastien, may you please confirm? I do. Thanks Bruno for contributing! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH 1/2] org-capture: Allow entry template to start without heading
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien, may you please check FSF records? The record for Rens is valid. Thanks for your contributions! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] https://orgmode.org/elpa.html is obsolete [9.7-pre (release_9.6.29-1465-ge6c7b0.dirty @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]
Hi Ihor, Ihor Radchenko writes: > https://orgmode.org/elpa.html page is obsolete - it is describing > now-discontinued Org ELPA and is not referenced from anywhere apart > maybe from some links in the wild. We can remove this page. > Should we remove it and redirect https://orgmode.org/elpa.html to > https://orgmode.org/org.html#Installation ? Yes, the redirect is now in place. Thanks for suggesting this! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Update contact info
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien, may you please confirm? I do, thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
[BUG] Test - please ignore
Does Woof catch this? -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] Remove warning about org-clock-save.el lacking lexical-binding directive
Ihor Radchenko writes: > And they reverted the warning at the end. > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit?id=d51de0c5d90117bc1dc4bc5bc700253d71cd4579 Yes, it makes sense. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] tracker.orgmode.org does not track anything since March 8, 2024
Ihor Radchenko writes: > A few bug reports and patches arrived but nothing is reflected on the > Woof! list. Yes, confirmed, I will have a closer look at this today or tomorrow. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] Remove warning about org-clock-save.el lacking lexical-binding directive
Ihor Radchenko writes: > I think that it is premature. > This is a warning recently introduced on Emacs master, and it is still > being debated upon. See > https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/50e29988-d354-4d10-990f-31828dbe6...@gmail.com/t/#u Okay, fair enough. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] Commit a2e5685e4 introduces a regression
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Fixed, on main. > I removed the folding part, but forgot to add invisible property > handling. > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=c8bd2092b Great, thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] Silence a warning in org-table.el
Ihor Radchenko writes: > It just _seems_ trivial. This innocently-looking patch will break tests. > > Duplicate of https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/875y2oxfd8@red-bean.com/T/#u > Canceled. Doh! And I already reverted this myself! I'm getting old. Thanks. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] Exporting lists of >100 items to markdown
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Fixed, on bugfix. > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=24feef95e Thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
[PATCH] Silence a warning in org-table.el
The attached patch silences a warning. This seems trivial, if nobody bites I'll apply this tomorrow. Thanks! -- Bastien diff --git a/lisp/org-table.el b/lisp/org-table.el index 0c2dc27ed..3d40a02a1 100644 --- a/lisp/org-table.el +++ b/lisp/org-table.el @@ -2887,7 +2887,7 @@ list, `literal' is for the format specifier L." (if lispp (if (eq lispp 'literal) elements - (if (and (eq elements "") (not keep-empty)) + (if (and (string= elements "") (not keep-empty)) ;; FIXME: This branch of `if' is never used because ;; strings are never `eq' here. But changing to ;; `equal' breaks tests.
[BUG] Commit a2e5685e4 introduces a regression
Since commit a2e5685e4 ("Do not use org-fold to hide link parts"),
all parts of bracket links are entirely visible in agenda view.
Can anyone reproduce this?
--
Bastien
[PATCH] Remove warning about org-clock-save.el lacking lexical-binding directive
Recent versions of Emacs complain about org-clock-save.el: ⛔ Warning (lexical-binding): File /home/bzg/.emacs.d/org-clock-save.el lacks `lexical-binding' directive on its first line The attached patch should fix this. Is it okay to add it to bugfix? Thanks, -- Bastien diff --git a/lisp/org-clock.el b/lisp/org-clock.el index 67feb6b35..806bc02de 100644 --- a/lisp/org-clock.el +++ b/lisp/org-clock.el @@ -3233,7 +3233,7 @@ The details of what will be saved are regulated by the variable org-clock-has-been-used (not (file-exists-p org-clock-persist-file (with-temp-file org-clock-persist-file - (insert (format ";; %s - %s at %s\n" + (insert (format ";; %s - %s at %s -*- lexical-binding: t; -*-\n" (file-name-nondirectory org-clock-persist-file) (system-name) (format-time-string (org-time-stamp-format t
[BUG] Exporting lists of >100 items to markdown
Exporting the attached document with a list of >100 items results in a misformed markdown list, with missing spaces at the beginning of items. Can anyone reproduce this? -- Bastien bug.org Description: Lotus Organizer
Re: [BUG] tracker.orgmode.org does not track anything since March 8, 2024
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Woof! does not seem to update the new emails any more. > https://tracker.orgmode.org/?sorting-by=date page only contains emails > back from March. No new bugs/requests/news are visible. I restarted Woof, let's see if the dog is barking again. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Maybe we should add an equivalent of `worg-publish-stop-on-error' to > orgweb publish process? Good idea, done. Let's see if it helps! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: columnview dynamic block - different time summing behaviour for EFFORT and CLOCKSUM
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Thanks! > The patch is ready to be merged. > Bastien, may you please confirm the FSF records? > Alexander should have the copyright signed. Yes, he has, thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] Ensure org-table-header displays without cursor inside table
Ihor Radchenko writes: > P.S. Bastien, may your please check Lei Zhe's copyright status? Yes, I confirm Lei Zhe copyright status is okay. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Update contact info
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien, may you check which name is used in the FSF records? I've taken this offlist. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] Create commands for org-read-date-minibuffer-local-map
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien, may you please check FSF records? Yes, Laurence copyright status is okay. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [WORG] 2680e65 * org-maintenance.org (Copyright assignments): Minor improvements
Adam Porter writes: > Sure. I've pushed that, adding a "co-authored-by" line for Bastien. Thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [WORG] 2680e65 * org-maintenance.org (Copyright assignments): Minor improvements
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Sounds reasonable. OKay -- feel free to go ahead with whatever version you find best. > It is a longer period compared to 5 business days mentioned in > https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/maintain.html, but the copyright clerk > is just a single guy taking care about all the requests... Hence my proposal to wait at least for one month. IMO it is not a problem if Org and other GNU packages propose distinct ping'ing policies as long as the shorter period (one month for Org) is not shorter than the one proposed for GNU in general (one week, IIUC.) -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [WORG] 2680e65 * org-maintenance.org (Copyright assignments): Minor improvements
Until Org maintainers get an email confirmation for when a copyright assignment process is done, we can simply suggest contributors to wait a month before pinging the copyright clerk and to CC Org maintainers when doing so. WDYT? -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [ANN] Emergency bugfix release: Org mode 9.6.23
Thanks a lot for your work on this! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org
Ihor Radchenko writes: > It looks like there is some problem with publishing index.org in > particular. I made several changes, but none of them is visible on > orgmode.org. At the same time, my changes to tools.org page are > visible. Yes -- perhaps this error has something to do with this: https://builds.sr.ht/~bzg/job/1176324#task-build-41 -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Worg build status?
Ihor Radchenko writes: > This is still a problem. Likely on Sourcehut side. Yes, I haven't received an answer from sr.ht yet, too bad. > For now, only Bastien can trigger the builds. In the meantime, I've set up a cron job to publish Worg every 12 hours, this is not entirely satisfactory, just a bit better. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Worg build status?
Ihor Radchenko writes: > This is still a problem. Likely on Sourcehut side. > For now, only Bastien can trigger the builds. FWIW I've just asked the question here: https://lists.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/sr.ht-discuss/%3C87frwldwqw.fsf%40bzg.fr%3E -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org
Ihor Radchenko writes: > After > https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/orgweb/commit/d7b6524cf62a947db64d29c5bf879499ab8951d7, > not only blogs are included in the front page of orgmode.org, but also > bug reports and everything else. Yes, https://tracker.orgmode.org/index.org includes everything. > I do not see much problem listing announcements, blogs, and requests > there; but bug reports are probably not something we want to show to > newbies right at the front page. I restricted it to "news": https://tracker.orgmode.org/news.org > Also, what do you think about the following ideas: > > 1. Adding a header before the recent news list. Maybe something like >"Project heartbeat". > > 2. Moving recent news after features/install/quickstart/contribute >buttons. Yes, please go as you see fit. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Something like the attached maybe. Thanks! Applied: https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/woof/commit/177ea5b1 -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien Guerry writes: > >> Ihor Radchenko writes: >> >>> Wouldn't a cron job work? Similar to how we schedule CI for Org mode >>> tests. >> >> I've set this cron job to run every six hours and limited the number >> of entries to 5 to not clutter the homepage. > > Note that > https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/orgweb/commit/c9531ba7ad7647d7322c06e8dd8ee3fabbb992a8 > has stray unresolved conflict markers: > > +<<<<<<< HEAD Oups, fixed. > Also, it looks like https://tracker.orgmode.org/index.org does not sort > links by date. It would be nice if top 5 links were also the most recent. Yes, indeed. I'll see when I can hack on this. Help from Clojure hackers is welcome here: https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/woof -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Wouldn't a cron job work? Similar to how we schedule CI for Org mode > tests. I've set this cron job to run every six hours and limited the number of entries to 5 to not clutter the homepage. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [ANN] Please share useful blog posts on this list with the [BLOG] subject prefix
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien writes: > >> Adding [BLOG] or [TIP] in the subject prefix allows for such messages >> to be referenced on https://tracker.orgmode.org/news (along with [ANN] >> messages). >> >> It will then be possible to include these posts in the orgmode.org >> homepage, using e.g. https://tracker.orgmode.org/news.rss. >> >> This is experimental, let's see if this helps spread the word about >> useful blogs. > > I am looking at https://tracker.orgmode.org/news and I feel that mixing > blog/tip entries with important announcements may not be very good idea. > May we put the blogs into a separate tab, leaving announcements stand > out? Yes, this is a possibility. > Also, I do not see > https://list.orgmode.org/877cihmr45@posteo.net/T/#u listed. > May it be because in "[tip] Export to PDF with latexmk 'continuous > preview' option", "tip" is lowercase? This should not be case-sensitive - I will check when I have some free time. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] org-agenda: Make sure skipping warning/delay days never increases their number
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien, may you please check FSF records? Done, and confirmed things are in order. Welcome! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: A question about local/experimental branches
Ihor Radchenko writes: > AFAIU, Juan does not have write access to savannah. > Should we give it? Of course, if he is willing to use savannah. Any > other public repo is also fine. Juan, let me know if you need access: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html#devs Thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Wouldn't a cron job work? Similar to how we schedule CI for Org mode > tests. Yes, you're right! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [ANN] Please share useful blog posts on this list with the [BLOG] subject prefix
Ihor Radchenko writes: > As long as the fraction of non-English posts is small, I do not think > that it matters too much. (Of course, having a translation would be > helpful, but we cannot demand such thing.) I suggest we stick to the policy of using english as the language for the list: sharing posts written in other languages is okay as long as we share the summary in english in the emails. That's also better for search the list's archive IMHO. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [ANN] Please share useful blog posts on this list with the [BLOG] subject prefix
Hi Juan, Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Great! Just one question: can articles be shared in languages other than > English? In that case, would it be necessary to add some more > prefixes, such as "Spanish", "French", "Italian", "Greek", etc.? Yes, you can use "[BLOG] [Spanish] ..." so that people adapt their filters, but the second prefix won't have any effect on Woof. But because the language for discussing on this list is english, I believe the summary should be in english - then people can use i18n tools to get to the contents. How does this sound? -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org
Ihor Radchenko writes: > And we may trivially add the recent BLOG posts using something like > > #+INCLUDE: "https://tracker.orgmode.org/index.org; :lines 1-10 Yes, but the non-trivial thing is to schedule the CI regularily so that index.html is updating regularily. I believe integrating a RSS feed with some free JS code could work. Patch welcome! -- Bastien Guerry
[BLOG] Org Capturing Introduction
The org-capture function is quite useful for some workflows, however, the standard documentation for it quickly jumps into template writing without really explaining its use case. The following essay attempts to be a gentle introduction to org-capture. I will assume you are familiar with both Org and Emacs, but don’t know anything about org-capture. https://howardism.org/Technical/Emacs/capturing-intro.html -- Bastien Guerry
[ANN] Please share useful blog posts on this list with the [BLOG] subject prefix
Adding [BLOG] or [TIP] in the subject prefix allows for such messages to be referenced on https://tracker.orgmode.org/news (along with [ANN] messages). It will then be possible to include these posts in the orgmode.org homepage, using e.g. https://tracker.orgmode.org/news.rss. This is experimental, let's see if this helps spread the word about useful blogs. Thanks! -- Bastien
Re: A question about local/experimental branches
Ihor Radchenko writes: > I am not sure if experimental branches can go directly to our savannah, > like what Emacs does. > Bastien, WDYT? We did that in the past with Org repo, I see no reason for not doing it again with the current Git repo on Savannah: feel free to push experimental branches. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] FAQ asnwer for "How can I use arbitrary colors for words/sentences in HTML export?" is outdated
Max Nikulin writes: > Bastien, could you, please, have a look at the CI configuration. I do > not see recent builds in > https://builds.sr.ht/~bzg/worg I just triggered a new build myself. The secret key needed to launch the build has been shared with other users, including Ihor and you: can you (or Ihor) tell me if you see a shared key somewhere in your sr.ht profile? There has been a change in builds.sr.ht: now only pushes by the owner trigger a build, *unless* the owner shared the secret key with other users. So far I don't understand why users with whom I've shared the key cannot trigger a build. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [DISCUSSION] Add "Recent News" to orgmode.org
I'm all for any experiment that will help interesting Org post get more traction. If someone wants to play with https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/orgweb so that it includes latest Org posts from Sacha's URL, please go ahead! A complementary suggestion: let's activate the "Blog" tab on Woof (at https://tracker.orgmode.org) so that when people send an email to the list prefixed with [BLOG], it is referenced on this tab. Then, a RSS feed is available from https://tracker.orgmode.org/blog.rss that we can parse on orgmode.org. Let me know if activating the detection of BLOG posts on the mailing list sounds useful. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: org-contrib: Remove org-eval-light.el and org-evel.el
Ihor Radchenko writes: > According to https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/#org4b339dd, > org-eval-lite "... is a reworking of Carsten's org-eval with the goals > of a more uniform syntax, safer default execution rules, and increased > ease of execution. Written by Eric Schulte. Link to raw file. This > modules has been superseded by the Org Babel functionality, which is > ^^ > part of the Org core and documented in the manual." > > The same for org-eval. > > Considering how long Org Babel is a part of Org core, it is probably the > time to remove org-eval-light and org-eval from org-contrib - they are > of no use. Done in 0.5 too, thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] org-contrib/org-static-mathjax is not operational [9.7-pre (release_9.6.18-1153-gee395b.dirty @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]
Hi Ihor, Ihor Radchenko writes: > Since we observe no bug reports about org-static-mathjax, it does not > look like anyone at all is using it. > > Should we obsolete the library? I removed org-static-mathjax.el from org-contrib and released 0.5. Thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [FR] Org mode sr.ht project page: add familiar links for newcomers
Hi Ihor, Ihor Radchenko writes: > Sourcehut is known for unusual interface that looks foreign for users > coming from GitHub background. > > Some SourceHut projects employ an approach to use Github-compatible > terminology and link to the corresponding Sourcehut pages: > > [Issues] [Pull requests] [Discussions] [Wiki] > > I suggest doing the same, with the following mapping: > > [[orgmode.org/][Home page]] > [[https://tracker.orgmode.org/][Issues]] > [[mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org][New issue]] > [[https://tracker.orgmode.org/patches][Pull requests]] > [[https://list.orgmode.org/][Discussions]] > [[https://orgmode.org/worg/][Wiki]] Done here: https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org/commit/b6234e0 Feel free to enhance it! > It would also be nice to have "New issue" button in > https://tracker.orgmode.org/ Noted here: https://lists.sr.ht/~bzg/woof/%3C87wmqulzne.fsf%40bzg.fr%3E -- Bastien Guerry
Re: bug#66291: [Leo Vivier] [PATCH] orgalist: Update bug:31361 workaround for new upstream signature
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: > >> To answer Ihor's question : I'm out of touch concerning Org development, >> so maintaining a package such as Orgalist may be problematic at some >> point, indeed. > > Then, may we need to ask someone to help maintaining orgalist? > Similar question about a number of Org mode libraries where you are > listed as a maintainer. Yes, we definitely need to do this! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Ada/SPARK support in Babel
Ihor Radchenko writes: > My initial assessment is that we might include babel support for Ada if > it is accompanied by good set of tests, so that we do not need to worry > too much about things breaking even if there is no ob-ada maintainer. > > ... and let's see if the original author is still interested to continue > with his request. FWIW +1 -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] org-ctags: Fix regexp to not break radio targets
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Martin Marshall writes: > >> Ihor Radchenko writes: >>> I also see that you submitted a number of patches recently. >>> For now, your contribution size is fairly small, but if you plan to >>> contribute a lot more, please consider signing FSF copyright assignment. >>> See https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html#copyright >> >> Thanks, I submitted a copyright assignment a year or two ago with >> respect to a pull-request submitted for the which-key package. Not sure >> if it's project-specific, or if I'll need to submit a separate one >> (which I'm happy to do of course). > > If your assignment has "GNU Emacs" in it, you are good to go. > > Bastien, may you please check FSF records? Yes, Martin's FSF record is okay. Thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH v2] org-id: allow using parent's existing id in links to headlines
Hi, Ihor Radchenko writes: > "Rick Lupton" writes: > >> On Fri, 9 Feb 2024, at 12:09 PM, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >>> May you please update on your FSF copyright assignment status? >> >> I believe the agreement is all signed and completed. > > Bastien, may your please check FSF records? Done, and it is well in order. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] Fix org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-deadline-is-shown bug
Hi Ihor, Ihor Radchenko writes: > No response from Bastien. Yes, sorry for that. In general, don't wait for my answer unless you really needed it: you've got pre-approval as co-maintainer, I don't want my current lack of availability to be a blocker. Thanks, -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] FAQ asnwer for "How can I use arbitrary colors for words/sentences in HTML export?" is outdated
Hi Max, Max Nikulin writes: > Bastien, could you, please, have a look at the CI configuration. I do > not see recent builds in > https://builds.sr.ht/~bzg/worg Thanks for the heads up. I've triggered the build for Worg. There is something wrong with the CI configuration, not sure what yet, I need to investigate. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] [WORG] Spurious file: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-R/tmp.html [9.7-pre (release_9.6.16-1057-gdea778 @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]
Hi Ihor, Ihor Radchenko writes: > It looks like https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-R/tmp.html is a > draft of https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-R/org-R.html. > tmp.html/tmp.org is also not referenced from anywhere. > > Should we remove it? Sure, please go ahead. Thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] doc/org-manual.org (Summary): Clarify the Org markup is human-readable
Jean Louis writes: > It's primary use was for Emacs users to make notes, TODO tasks, > etc. It is secondary that it became leightweight markup language that > can export to various documents. IMHO it has always been a _lightweight markup language_, used for notes and TODO tasks, then soon enough for exporting too. I got interested to Org back circa 2006 after I stopped working on a small library called bhl.el: https://www.nongnu.org/bhl/ BHL was a lightweight markup language targetting export only. Org was vastly superior in all accounts, so I contributed to Org. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Provide org-insert-subitem
Hi Adam, Adam Porter writes: > The "C-M-RET" binding doesn't feel quite right to me. Using "shift" > feels like a mnemonic for "sub", whereas "C-M" seems like it should do > something much less frequently used, since it requires two > modifiers. I agree that S- suggests "sub". I've been playing around with C-RET, M-RET, S-RET and I do believe there is room for improvement here, along with a dedicated keybinding for `org-insert-subheading/subitem'. I will refine my proposal later on. > Ihor also made some good points in his message about the combinations > of commands to insert before/after, with/without TODO, etc, and that > "M- " is already a quick way to insert a subheading (I > wasn't aware of the option > `org-cycle-level-after-item/entry-creation'). So maybe this idea of > mine isn't as important as I thought. :) Even if we end up not binding a new key for `org-insert-subheading', it will be good to add org-clone-item and org-insert-subitem and perhaps to improve bindings in this area. I will think again about this. Thanks! -- Bastien
Re: Provide org-insert-subitem
Ihor Radchenko writes: >> S-RET already "copy down" a table cells, so I'm really suggesting a >> generalization of the current keybinding. > > This makes sense. > >> - S-RET on a list item calls `org-insert-subitem`, a new command. > > Did you mean `org-clone-item'? Yes, sorry (`org-clone-item' is better than `org-item-copy-down', the other idea that comes naturally.) >> - C-M-RET on a heading calls `org-insert-subheading', the existing >> command. >> >> - C-M-RET on a list item calls `org-insert-subitem', a new command. >> >> I like C-M-RET better than S-RET because inserting a subheading is >> like a "subkey" or inserting a heading. > > I tried to play around a bit with various flavours of X- commands > and I am not sure if I like C-M-RET: > > 1. For org-insert-heading, we have multiple variants that allow >inserting heading at point, after current subtree, and the same >variants for TODO heading. We don't have enough key combinations left >to allow all the equivalents for subheadings. > > 2. With `org-cycle-level-after-item/entry-creation' set to t (default), >it is actually very easy to create a subheading/subitem using the >available C/M-[S]- commands. Just do M- . And the same >will work for inserting todo headings. I'm not sure I follow the reasoning here: do you say that we don't need to find a keybinding for `org-insert-subheading/subitem' because it is already easy enough to insert a subheading/item using a certain combinaison of commands? Or do you suggest we need to find another prefix than "C-M-"? Which one? What matter the most to me here is the consistency of commands, but if the keybindings can reflect that, all the better. -- Bastien
Re: [PATCH] Justify/align image previews in org-mode
Ihor Radchenko writes: >> From eb1b287c009c2f7eb83e7e31d64980ba79f44527 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 >> From: Karthik Chikmagalur >> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 12:56:33 -0800 >> Subject: [PATCH] org: Add image alignment > > Bastien, may you please confirm that Karthik's FSF assignment is in > order? Yes it is, since 2021. Thanks for contributing! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] orgmode.org is not up-to-date with the latest orgweb master
Ihor Radchenko writes: > I have recently merged Chinese translation for orgmode.org: > https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/orgweb/commit/73e825a91bb6dd432d88b1b960e42c1f6a4a6f12 > > However, https://orgmode.org/ does not reflect the changes. > > Bastien, may you please check the publish scripts? I've launched it, the translation is online now. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] Should we remove the obsolete org-contrib/org-track.el?
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Shall we remove the obsolete org-track.el? > It is an obsolete library, marked obsolete 11 years ago, inside > minimally maintained repository. I suspect that it is now safe to remove > it :) Indeed, done! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] [WORG] Maintenance: on the frequency of bugfix releases
Ihor Radchenko writes: > I think that upper limit for bugfix release frequency is slightly in > odds with the previous > > Org development is the work of volunteers, and we cannot promise to > follow a release schedule. You're right -- I've rephrase it like so: Security fixes trigger an immediate bugfix release. For other important fixes, we generally wait a week between bugfix releases. Whenever possible for the maintainers, we wait less than two weeks before releasing important fixes. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] [WORG] Maintenance: on the frequency of bugfix releases
Ihor Radchenko writes: > What do you think about the attached patch? I like the idea. I've pushed a slightly different version: https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/worg/commit/45d6c45759 Security fixes trigger an immediate bugfix release. Other important fixes should be accumulated for more than one week and for less than two weeks before a bugfix release. It's important to allow immediate release for security fixes only, and to let the dust settle for at least a week for other fixes. Is it okay for you? -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] [PATCH] Add yank-media and DND handler [9.6.7 (9.6.7-g6eb773 @ /home/viz/lib/emacs/straight/build/org/)]
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Before I proceed with installing it; Bastien, may you please confirm > Visuwesh's copyright assignment status? Confirmed and added to Worg. Thanks Visuwesh for contributing! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Provide org-insert-subitem
Hi Adam, Ihor Radchenko writes: > Adam Porter writes: > >> Well, it's been a few years since I forgot to bump this thread. [0] :) >> I just rediscovered it after wondering why the command >> org-insert-subheading still doesn't have a default binding. May we >> revisit this? I find myself wanting to insert a subheading almost every >> day, and I have to "M-x org-insert-subheading RET". >> >> Of course I could bind it myself, and in one of my configs I have, but I >> still think it deserves a default binding, even if it were to be a >> "smart" command that worked like org-table-copy-down when in a table and >> does org-insert-subheading otherwise (because I still think that "S-RET" >> is an obviously appropriate binding for this command). >> >> What do you think? =) > > I think that it still makes sense, even after all these years ;) +1! Thanks for reviving this thread. I would suggest a larger set of enhancements here: - S-RET on a heading copies down the heading. For that we would need a new command `org-clone-subtree' bound to S-RET that would immediately copy the heading at point. This command would accept a universal argument to allow for a number a clones and two universal arguments for adding a time shift. `org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift' would continue to be bound to `C-c C-x c' but would be really a call to `org-clone-subtree' - S-RET on a list item calls `org-insert-subitem`, a new command. - C-M-RET on a heading calls `org-insert-subheading', the existing command. - C-M-RET on a list item calls `org-insert-subitem', a new command. S-RET already "copy down" a table cells, so I'm really suggesting a generalization of the current keybinding. I like C-M-RET better than S-RET because inserting a subheading is like a "subkey" or inserting a heading. These improvements seem consistent. WDYT? -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] Move files when using org-babel-tangle-publish
Ihor Radchenko writes: >> Yes I have assigned copyright to the FSF already. > > Bastien, may you please confirm? I do - I added Antero to the list of FSF-signed contributors on Worg. Thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Org site is down
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien Guerry writes: > >> Let's see if Woof can track new patches and tasks, for example. >> I'll monitor this, you don't need to worry about it right now. > > I do see patches and requests being added after the update, but not > bugs. The latest registered bug report is from Nov 1 - see > https://tracker.orgmode.org/bugs?sorting-by=date Is it still a problem? I have some time this week-end to look into this more closely, please report any oddity. Thanks, -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Suggestion: User-contributed use-cases on orgmode.org ?
Ihor Radchenko writes: > I don't think so. We intentionally keep Org mailing list as a single > place for all the discussions, not just Org development. > AFAIU, Bastien is firmly into this policy (CCing him in case if I > misunderstood). You didn't misunderstood: I firmly believe that we should use the Org mailing list as the reference channel for Org discussions. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] https://tracker.orgmode.org/ is down (error 502)
Ihor Radchenko writes: >> Is it necessary to bring updates.orgmode.org up? > > I do not think so. OK. > We might put a redirect to tracker.orgmode.org though - some people are > not yet aware about the new address (see > https://old.reddit.com/r/orgmode/comments/17y0fme/is_the_update_page_for_org_mode_broken_or_has_it/) Done, with a few redirections - see the new config: https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/worg/commit/473f69ed67 -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] https://tracker.orgmode.org/ is down (error 502)
Ihor Radchenko writes: > https://tracker.orgmode.org/ Is up again. > and https://updates.orgmode.org/ are > currently down, both returning 502. Is it necessary to bring updates.orgmode.org up? -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [ELPA] New package: ob-asymptote.el
Ihor Radchenko writes: >> It should be available within 24-48 hours at: >> >> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/ob-asymptote.html Good news, thanks! > I am thus removing ob-asymptote from org-contrib. > https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org-contrib/commit/a56fb90b1696bb015abfbb04df08a1ebc589d686 Thanks. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] doc/org-manual.org: Checkboxes, add checkbox states examples
Sławomir Grochowski writes: >> Applied, with a minor modification, using 1. instead of 1) for the >> list items. > > When will you merge the patch? https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/ > emacs/org-mode.git/ Done now. > And when update will be visible on site https://orgmode.org/org.html# > Checkboxes ? When we release the main branch as a new stable version of Org, so not so soon. Best, -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] Fix org-[beginning|end]-of-line with arguments
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tomohisa Kuranari writes: > >> Finally, the copyright assignment process was completed on 2023/09/20. > > Bastien, may you please check FSF records? Done, I confirm Tomohisa Kuranari's record is okay. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] doc/org-manual.org: Checkboxes, add checkbox states examples
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien writes: > >> I added you as a contributor on >> https://orgmode.org/worg/contributors.html > > I think that you added him second time :) Ahah, good catch! > @@ 260,6 260,7 @@ within GNU Emacs: > ... > +- Slawomir Grochowski > - Sławomir Grochowski I fixed this by keeping the second occurrence with "ł"... -- Bastien
Re: [PATCH] doc/org-manual.org: Checkboxes, add checkbox states examples
Hi Sławomir, Sławomir Grochowski writes: > I have added some examples to the org-manual. > Patch in attachment and also a screenshot of generated html. Applied, with a minor modification, using 1. instead of 1) for the list items. I added you as a contributor on https://orgmode.org/worg/contributors.html Thanks! -- Bastien
Re: Org site is down
Ihor Radchenko writes: > I just fixed a bug in > https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87bkc744ub.fsf@localhost/ > So far, it is still listed in https://tracker.orgmode.org/bugs?sorting-by=date It's probably the Woof bug mentioned before. Let's see if Woof can track new patches and tasks, for example. I'll monitor this, you don't need to worry about it right now. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Org site is down
Ihor Radchenko writes: >> It should be back now, please report any problem you may notice. > > There are still issues with some bugs not being closed despite my emails > containing the trigger keywords. However, it looks similar to > https://lists.sr.ht/~bzg/woof/%3C87ilhjiw7g.fsf%40localhost%3E, so I > assume that I just need to wait until the problem is solved. Yes, this is probably the error. Did you manage to get other bugs close? or to add tasks and patches? This will prove that the inbox monitoring works correctly. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Org site is down
Bastien writes: > https://tracker.orgmode.org is back too but tracking new emails will > not work for the next two hours or so. I'll confirm when it's back. It should be back now, please report any problem you may notice. -- Bastien
Re: Org site is down
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Daniel Fleischer writes: > >> Orgmode.org appears to be down. > > Working on my side. Yes, the web part of the maintenance is over, the website is back. https://tracker.orgmode.org is back too but tracking new emails will not work for the next two hours or so. I'll confirm when it's back. -- Bastien
orgmode.org down for maintenance
https://orgmode.org is temporarily down for maintenance. I expect the serveur to be up and running in less than two hours. -- Bastien
Re: Org site is down
Daniel Fleischer writes: > Orgmode.org appears to be down. Yes, see my message: it should come back in two hours. -- Bastien
Re: [PATCH] Fix warning about using `eq' to compare strings.
Ihor Radchenko writes: > I added a FIXME explaining the issue to make the problem more clear. Good idea, thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [PATCH] Fix warning about using `eq' to compare strings.
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien writes: > >> Karl Fogel writes: >> >>> Hi, everyone. Small fix attached -- it just makes a warning go >>> away. >> >> Applied against the main branch, thanks! > > Unfortunately, fixing this warning breaks org-table logic and tests. > See previous discussion in > https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/20230827214320.46754-1-salu...@me.com/ Ouch. Reverted. I took back control over my zombie clone and put him back to sleep in his coffin. -- Bastien
Re: Preferred posting style
Hi, yaxp writes: > Which posting style is preferable in this list? Interleaved and bottom posting are preferred. Top posting should definitely be avoided. -- Bastien
Re: [PATCH] Fix warning about using `eq' to compare strings.
Hi Karl, Karl Fogel writes: > Hi, everyone. Small fix attached -- it just makes a warning go > away. Applied against the main branch, thanks! -- Bastien
Re: [BUG] CI jobs do not appear to be running
Ihor Radchenko writes: >> I've also updated the script which mirrors the main Org repository to >> GitHub and Sourcehut, things are kept in sync every 3 hours. > > It does not look like there is any improvement. Both cron jobs are now fixed, one that sync Org's repos every six hours (instead of three) and one that checks every three hours for changes in Org's repo and runs tests if needed. I'll keep an eye on these scripts over the week-end, let me know if something does not work as expected. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] CI jobs do not appear to be running
Ihor Radchenko writes: > It does not look like there is any improvement. Yes, something is wrong with cron. I'll have a look this week-end, I don't have a stable connection right now. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] CI jobs do not appear to be running
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Still nothing, even though I did not address some recent > failures, like "FAILED ob-octave/session-multiline". I've pushed a fix, it should be okay now. I've also updated the script which mirrors the main Org repository to GitHub and Sourcehut, things are kept in sync every 3 hours. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] CI jobs do not appear to be running
Hi Ihor, Ihor Radchenko writes: > May you also check if new commits in Org repo still trigger the check? New commits in Org repo don't trigger the checks directly. Instead, there is a cron job running every three hours and running the checks iff there are new commits. > https://lists.sr.ht/~bzg/org-build-failures ran the tests right after > <https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org-mode-tests/commit/6a6d21723d7b60020a711382cdb40a3c3bbd9112>, > but my recent Org commits did not trigger anything. Perhaps your email was sent less than three hours after the last checks (I didn't check). Can you check again after the next commits? The cron job on the machine is configured correctly and should run. I'll see what's wrong if it does not run. Thanks! -- Bastien
Re: Should we move constants.el by Carsten Dominik to Org orphanage?
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien Guerry writes: > >> I see no reason not to use >> https://github.com/cdominik/constants-for-Emacs as the source for >> constants.el, the package seems stable (as its name suggests...) > > I was mostly concerned that a pull request back from 2020 is still > open. AFAICT the PR is about whitespaces in the README, so not a blocker. > That said, there is indeed no rush and actually no urgent need to do > anything - it is not like we are getting an large inflow of bug reports > related to constants.el. Indeed :) -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [BUG] CI jobs do not appear to be running
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Yasushi SHOJI writes: > >> It appears that Emacs 27 lacks the optional argument for >> `get-buffer-create`, while `org-element-parse-secondary-string` >> relies on it. This problem was introduced by the commit 37d6bde27fe2. > > This was not caught by our CI tests for some reason, despite > make test EMACS=emacs-27 failing locally. > And the last message in https://lists.sr.ht/~bzg/org-build-failures is a > month ago. There was a problem with the oauth token not being able to interact with the (legacy) builds.sr.ht API. I've updated the script so that it now uses the hut utility (see https://git.sr.ht/~emersion/hut) and tests are running again. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Should we move constants.el by Carsten Dominik to Org orphanage?
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Maske writes: > >> There are some links, that I am afraid don't work: >> ... >> ‘constants.el’ by Carsten Dominik [...] >> http://www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools. >> >> >> # That link is dead. Maybe this would be the correct one: >> https://staff.fnwi.uva.nl/c.dominik/#orgf869524 > > The source code at https://github.com/cdominik/constants-for-Emacs has > not been changed since the end of 2020, and I have last seen Carsten > being active on mailing lists at the beginning of 2021. (My guess is that Carsten still skims through the list from time to time.) > So, we may instead consider marking the package at > https://orgmode.org/worg/org-orphanage.html and maybe inside > https://sr.ht/~bzg/org/ project. I see no reason not to use https://github.com/cdominik/constants-for-Emacs as the source for constants.el, the package seems stable (as its name suggests...) I've fixed the link in the manual. Of course, if Carsten wants to move the package to Org orphanage, no problem. Thanks, -- Bastien
Re: Unclear where ob-spice.el is being maintained
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Committed. Note that ob-spice was _not_ listed in the README. > https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org-contrib/commit/be51e9833b4f3393f4003c88131ba0a0a172c10d Indeed! > We may consider tagging a new release. Yes, please go ahead as you see fit. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: Unclear where ob-spice.el is being maintained
Ihor Radchenko writes: > "Christopher M. Miles" writes: > >> Thanks, Updated now. >>> ... >>>> Jonas Bernoulli writes: >>>> >>>>> In 2022 I changed Melpa to get ob-spice.el from >>>>> https://repo.or.cz/ob-spice.git in response to >>>>> https://github.com/melpa/melpa/issues/7872#issuecomment-1034945112. >>>>> >>>>> But org-contrib still contains that file and the README at the new >>>>> location still contains > > Bastien, it looks like we can now remove ob-spice from org-contrib. > Please, confirm. I do, thanks. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [MAINTENANCE] Org orphanage?
Jonas Bernoulli writes: > Please make your "membership" public at > https://github.com/orgs/emacsorphanage/people. Done, thanks! -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?
Ihor Radchenko writes: > org-inlinetask.el cannot exist outside Org core without all the extra > support for inlinetasks across Org codebase. I'm aware of this. > So, what you are suggesting will completely remove inlinetasks > feature. I suggest removing the support for inline tasks *as they are designed today*, yes. I suggest reassessing the real problem we are trying to solve here, and see if we can come up with an approach that does not complexify Org's core syntax too much. E.g. perhaps allowing a :noheadingexport: tag to prevent the export of a heading would fit 90% of what is expected from inline tasks in the example you gave. > Yup. That's why I think that we need to make inlinetasks have distinct > syntax. I'm reluctant to supercharge Org's core syntax for this feature. I may be wrong, but I'd love to see if inline tasks are widely used, and if so, for what specific purpose. Again, if the core feature is to prevent some headings from being exported, then other approaches can be explored. -- Bastien Guerry
Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?
Ihor Radchenko writes: >> I see. So not only inline tasks are ugly syntactic-wise, but they >> also have a specific behavior when exporting. All this pleas for an >> external module, not for something we support in Org's core IMHO. > > I do not think that it would be possible. In order to support > inlinetasks in agenda/sparse trees/todo setting/tag setting, we need to > modify the internals. I see no way around that. Maybe we are miscommunicating: my suggestion is to _remove_ lisp/org-inlinetask.el from Org's core. > Too many aspects of Org are designed for one specific heading syntax. > Even modifying inlinetask *... syntax will likely require adding > more special support where things "magically" work for now because > inlinetasks often look the same as headings. And that's part of the confusion: inline tasks _look like_ normal tasks while behaving differently. -- Bastien Guerry
