[O] date added into logbook?
Hi all — I've been slowly studying LISP to the point where I can at least READ some of the code written by the amazing people in the Org-Mode community, but I'm not yet at the point where I am willing to try to write to much myself, especially given my need to learn much more about the variables and functions in org-mode. (Well, I have been willing, but since it takes me five hours still to do something I can do in a few minutes in Python, I'm obviously just not there yet.) So, I am turning to you for this one. I have a desire to better track the history of notes and tasks, as they get created, refiled, etc. This involves several elements, but one of them involves a piece that I've wanted for a while: a way to keep the data that is lost when I refile an item from my default date-tree file — the date the item was created/added. Perhaps there is some obvious (but mysterious to me) variable I can set for this, but I haven't found it. What I want is to be able to have a string similar to the others added to the logbook (like - Refiled on [2012-05-28 Mon 11:33]), but for the date/time the item first appeared. Is anyone else already doing this? — Michael http://nonprofitnews.org http://gilbert.org
[O] indent fixup error on refile (more details)
Hi —
This is a resend of an earlier message, with more detail from the debugger
below.
I'm afraid I don't know exactly where this error was introduced (I do nightly
updates) and I have been on travels and haven't been monitoring the list
closely. So I apologize in advance is this is a lousy error message. But I
wanted to put it out there in case it was already something that had someone's
attention
When I refile from the agenda, I will frequently get this error:
org-fixup-indentation: Invalid search bound (wrong side of point)
The item is copied to the new location (as the new topmost item in the
location), but the indentation, as you might expect, is incorrect. Also as you
might expect, the item is not deleted from its original location. Bulk refiles
stop after just messing up the first one, of course.
Anyone else experiencing this? Has it been discussed and I just didn't managed
to search for it properly?
Debugger results:
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error Invalid search bound (wrong side of
point))
re-search-forward(\\(\\(?:CLO\\(?:CK\\|SED\\)\\|DEADLINE\\|SCHEDULED\\)\\|^[
]*[[]\\([0-9]\\{4\\}-[0-9]\\{2\\}-[0-9]\\{2\\} [^]
\n]*?\\)[]]\\(--?-?[[]\\([0-9]\\{4\\}-[0-9]\\{2\\}-[0-9]\\{2\\} [^]
\n]*?\\)[]]\\)?*$\\|^[]*:[a-zA-Z][a-zA-Z0-9_]*:.*$\\) 223 t)
org-fixup-indentation(-1)
org-promote()
org-map-region(org-promote 85 228)
org-paste-subtree(3)
org-refile(nil #buffer Notes.org (#(Family Friends (FamilyFriends.org)
0 16 (org-category-position 1 org-category #(MyPeople 0 8 ...) fontified
nil)) /Users/mcg/OrgMode/Projects/MCGprojects/FamilyFriends.org ^\\(\\*+\\)[
]+\\(?:\\(TODO\\|STARTED\\|DONE\\|WAITING\\|CANCELLED\\)[
]+\\)?\\(?:\\(\\[#.\\]\\)[ ]+\\)?\\(?:\\(?:\\[[0-9%/]+\\]\\)[
]+\\)?\\(Family Friends\\)[ ]*\\(?:\\[[0-9%/]+\\]\\)?\\(?:[
]+\\(:[[:alnum:]_@#%:]+:\\)\\)?[]*$ #marker at 1 in
FamilyFriends.org))
org-agenda-refile(nil nil t)
(lambda nil (interactive) (org-agenda-refile nil nil t))()
call-interactively((lambda nil (interactive) (org-agenda-refile nil nil t))
nil nil)
— Michael
http://nonprofitnews.org
http://gilbert.org
[O] indent fixup error on refile
Hi — I'm afraid I don't know exactly where this error was introduced (I do nightly updates) and I have been on travels and haven't been monitoring the list closely. So I apologize in advance is this is a lousy error message. But I wanted to put it out there in case it was already something that had someone's attention When I refile from the agenda, I will frequently get this error: org-fixup-indentation: Invalid search bound (wrong side of point) The item is copied to the new location (as the new topmost item in the location), but the indentation, as you might expect, is incorrect. Also as you might expect, the item is not deleted from its original location. Bulk refiles stop after just messing up the first one, of course. Anyone else experiencing this? Has it been discussed and I just didn't managed to search for it properly? — Michael http://nonprofitnews.org http://gilbert.org
[O] how to include effort in agenda prefix?
Hi all — I want to be able to skim across my agenda and see effort estimates. I have been looking at the variable org-agenda-prefix-format and wondering if use of the expression evaluation option in there is the way to do it. However, while I have configured this prefix to suit me in other ways, writing a suitable expression to include the effort of the item is beyond my current skills. Any advice? TIA! — Michael
Re: [O] how to narrow Clock Total on repeating tasks?
Hi all — Been through some rough family time and I worry that I may have missed a response to this question. I apologize if that's the case. If not, is there anyone with any insights? Basically, I'm just looking for a way to narrow the scope of the clock total to the current iteration of task, in the context of the column view of the agenda. Comparing effort to total doesn't make a lot of sense if the former is an estimate per iteration and the latter is an total over all iterations. At least not to me. There's always the likelihood that I'm just missing something. — Michael On Aug 1, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: I use the effort and clocking features of OM to a large degree and am trying to deepen that further. I have run into one problem that I don't know how to apprach. Quite possibly there is an obvious answer in the manual that I've missed and if so, please forgive me. (I have noticed that most of my questions don't, in fact, have such answers though.) I am trying to figure out how to limit the calculation of the clocking total to the latest iteration of a repeating task. The most obvious place where this plays out is in column view. I am working my way through my agenda in column view, estimating efforts or reviewing my effort estimates against real-time clocking. The clock total in this view shows the full total over all iterations of repeating tasks — not helpful for this use case. Am I being clear? (I hate to over-explain something to a group of this calibre.) Any advice on how to change that?
[O] how to narrow Clock Total on repeating tasks?
Hi — I use the effort and clocking features of OM to a large degree and am trying to deepen that further. I have run into one problem that I don't know how to apprach. Quite possibly there is an obvious answer in the manual that I've missed and if so, please forgive me. (I have noticed that most of my questions don't, in fact, have such answers though.) I am trying to figure out how to limit the calculation of the clocking total to the latest iteration of a repeating task. The most obvious place where this plays out is in column view. I am working my way through my agenda in column view, estimating efforts or reviewing my effort estimates against real-time clocking. The clock total in this view shows the full total over all iterations of repeating tasks — not helpful for this use case. Am I being clear? (I hate to over-explain something to a group of this calibre.) Any advice on how to change that? — Michael Nonprofit News http://nonprofitnews.org
[O] gnuplot question - Specify an entire line to be inserted in the Gnuplot script.
Hi — There is a single line in the OM manual (currently on p32) which reads: lineSpecify an entire line to be inserted in the Gnuplot script. I am trying to insert a couple of horizontal reference lines in a simple plot. I have the plot working, but I need an example of this to help me along. The Gnuplot manual is a monster all its own and I'm not even sure the format is exactly the same. At any rate, I'm a little stuck. Any advice? — Michael Nonprofit News http://nonprofitnews.org
[O] stop rebuilding of agenda upon secondary filtering? (7.6 behavior)
Hi — Upon upgrading to 7.6, I am noticing that my agenda now rebuilds as I move between various secondary filters. This is a substantial slowdown to my regular workflow. Is there a setting I could use to adjust this behavior? Other advice? TIA — Michael
[O] bulk relative time shift (in org file)?
Hi — I've spent a fair amount of time with the manual and have hints that this might be possible, but I'm not piecing it together. Basically what I want to do is this: - select a number of items with time stamps in an org file (either by region or, if I must, all items subsidiary to a headline) - change all of their deadlines (or some other time stamp) by a set number of days, relative to the date they currently have - the result is a bulk rescheduling, with the relative timing of the items remaining intact Additional points: - I would prefer to select the type of timestamp to change, but I can probably work with it changing all of them. (Note that some items have both Scheduled and Deadline timestamps. Some even have other, inactive timestamps. Plus, there are also timestamps in the Logbook on some items.) - I would prefer to do this in the org file, not in the Agenda. This is a planning activity. - I can see how I might do this by cloning the subtree, but that seems like an ugly hack, involving deleting the original. Any guidance? TIA! — Michael The Gilbert Center: http://gilbert.org Nonprofit News: http://nonprofitnews.org
Re: [Orgmode] paralyzing bug: orgmode typeface gibberish
On Oct 13,2010, at 7:51 PM, Jeff Horn wrote: I surmise it's a font-lock or faces issue. But I don't know enough about that sort of thing to help much... Maybe examine the faces? Customize group org-faces. See if the font is set to webdings, dingbats, or something similar. I had already looked at my faces customizations and couldn't see anything usual about them. Then I went ahead and reset all faces customization to defaults. No change in this odd behavior. But Thank you, Jeff. Your note prompted me to return to this line of investigation. I decided to just trash my customization file altogether as a test. Lo and behold, that fixed the problem. I have to rebuild my customizations, but that is a solvable problem. I still have no idea how this came about, why there was nothing visible wrong with the settings, and why resetting them from within Aquamacs didn't fix it. But, good enough! Thank you, again. — Michael On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Michael Gilbert m...@gilbert.org wrote: My setup: Aquamacs 2.1 (Emacs 23), Orgmode 7.01h. This came about a few minutes ago, after a routine reboot. When set to org-mode, my buffers now display some gibberish typeface that I don't recognize (forgive the attachment): Same buffer, when flipped to text-mode: I am totally lost as to how to approach this. And, after a year of entwining myself deeper and deeper into org-mode, I am dead in the water. Maybe I will go take a walk. I understand there is an Outside World to visit. Anyway, any thoughts? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] anyone composing email in orgmode and sending with Mail.app?
Hi all — Slowly but surely Orgmode absorbs my various workflows. The latest one that I'm struggling with is email. I've read about org-mime and I'm not sure I'm ready to install an emacs email client. I know there are various mac os integration tools, but I'm fuzzy on how to do one particular workflow. As a result, I'm still clinging to Markdown for email. Raw orgmode, unfortunately, is not as readable to my clients and colleagues as Markdown is. Thus, I want to figure out a better workflow for sending email from Orgmode via Mail.app, perhaps with a plain text export of some kind or with HTML or RTF formatted email. Anyone doing anything like this? — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org-clock-current-task?
On Aug 6,2010, at 2:30 AM, Bastien wrote: Did org-clock-current-task actually end up in orgmode in February? I see mention of it on the list, but I'm not seeing it in the application. Yes, this was added in february: , | commit 30ffaca5aa2cbffbfa2dd21335c058c75a22ed33 | Author: Bastien Guerry b...@altern.org | Date: Wed Feb 24 16:28:43 2010 +0100 | | Added org-clock-current-task which stores the last clocked in entry. | | The `org-clock-set-current' and `org-clock-delete-current' functions | handle this variable. The variable only stores the last clocked in | entry, not the history of clocked in tasks. ` Try C-h v org-clock-current-task to see the variable. Oops. Put that down to a simple typo that I didn't see it. THANK you. — M ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] org-clock-current-task?
Hi - Did org-clock-current-task actually end up in orgmode in February? I see mention of it on the list, but I'm not seeing it in the application. — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] camel.el, for CamelCase links
On Aug 3,2010, at 9:27 AM, Bastien wrote: David O'Toole dto1...@gmail.com writes: http://github.com/dto/folio/blob/master/camel.el Someone asked about this recently, i have some partially working code. I'm not a big fan of CamelCase links because it encourages the habit of creating many files -- but that may be useful for some. I'm on the fence about that one. I would definitely love an easier way to create remote files and headings. This might help with the file end of that. A question for people people on the list: I'm not sure of the conventions with CamelCase and wikis (and a quick search didn't reveal the answer), but I'm wondering what might work to complete the model — that is to say include creation of remote headings as well as remote files. For example, perhaps using the # sign convention, we would write 'CamelCase#usage' and the first part would act as has been described. The second part (after the # sign) would reference a (top level?) heading in that file. If the heading existed, then great. If not, then it's created as part of the same trigger. Perhaps this is all old hat, but I couldn't dig up answers for myself, so I thought I would run it by you all. — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] org-mobile-create-sumo-agenda might be the culprit?
Hi — I wrote a message to the list recently about mobileorg failing to generate files to sync. I have a little more detail. A hunch really, since I am not savvy in Lisp at all. But it looks to me like org-mobile.el is getting to org-mobile-create-sumo-agenda and then stopping. There is no error message, but I think somehow that's where it stops. I have one custom agenda of any important (I believe Carsten in fact wrote it for an earlier request I have): (setq org-agenda-custom-commands '((d Due today agenda ((org-deadline-warning-days 0) (org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-deadline-is-shown t) (org-agenda-skip-function (lambda () (let* ((dl (org-entry-get nil DEADLINE))) (if (or (not dl) (equal dl ) (org-time dl (org-time-today))) (progn (outline-next-heading) (point (I Import diary from iCal agenda ((org-agenda-mode-hook (lambda () (org-mac-iCal) ) ;; ...other commands here ) Am I on the right track? Any advice? — Michael My earlier message: My goal was to make the initial connection with the App on my phone. I'm using Dropbox and my startup file includes: (setq org-mobile-inbox-for-pull ~/OrgMode/Flagged.org) (setq org-mobile-directory ~/Documents/Dropbox/MobileOrg) I run M-x org-mobile-push and it seems to do something. But no files are pushed to the MobileOrg folder. I set debug-on-error and I get no error. I've reloaded .el files. Any advice? Next steps? TIA. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] first time setting up mobile-org -- no files produced
Hi — Using Dropbox. Startup includes: (setq org-mobile-inbox-for-pull ~/OrgMode/Flagged.org) (setq org-mobile-directory ~/Documents/Dropbox/MobileOrg) M-x org-mobile-push does something. But no files are pushed to the MobileOrg folder. I set debug-on-error and I get no error. I've reloaded .el files. Next steps? I'm sure this is glaringly obvious to someone TIA. — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] highlight confusion in agenda
Hi — I have a frequent navigation issue in the agenda and I'm curious if anyone else deals with this or has a solution. Like many users I have the currently selected line in the agenda set to be highlighted (an absolute lifesaver). But although I am not very mouse-oriented, as an Aquamacs user I find that the line where the mouse happens to be hovering (not having selected anything) is mostly highlighted in exactly the same was as the selected line. This is a cause of frequent error on my part. I only notice this in the agenda, not in other files. Is there any way to turn off the latter effect? TIA — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
On Jul 16,2010, at 10:36 AM, David Maus wrote: Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly): (add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar Imenu))) Um... Wrong type of quote? It's 'org-mode-hook (ASCII 39) not ’org-mode-hook (Unicode 8217) Yep. When there wasn't an obvious answer, I found the same thing. Thank you regardless, David. What effect is it that the incorrect character has on the LISP processing? The error returned was related the name of the variable... Also, I guess this is a possible bug in the documentation: Looks like the single quote in the PDF version of the manual is Unicode 8217. (And of course I copied and pasted, to avoid getting anything wrong when I typed it!) Would that be something worth correcting? I have this vague notion that I've encountered it elsewhere. The HTML version of the manual is rendered correctly, but the PDF is not, I think. A quick scan suggests this — the renderer turns all the single quotes into curly quotes, even when they are being used in code. — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly): (add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar Imenu))) Um... Wrong type of quote? It's 'org-mode-hook (ASCII 39) not ’org-mode-hook (Unicode 8217) Yep. When there wasn't an obvious answer, I found the same thing. Thank you regardless, David. What effect is it that the incorrect character has on the LISP processing? The error returned was related the name of the variable... Also, I guess this is a possible bug in the documentation: Looks like the single quote in the PDF version of the manual is Unicode 8217. (And of course I copied and pasted, to avoid getting anything wrong when I typed it!) Would that be something worth correcting? I have this vague notion that I've encountered it elsewhere. The HTML version of the manual is rendered correctly, but the PDF is not, I think. A quick scan suggests this — the renderer turns all the single quotes into curly quotes, even when they are being used in code. Yes. Unfortunately I don't know a way to fix this. I am ignorant of LATEX and your particular architectural challenges of course. But the way scripts like John Grubers SmartyPants does it is by only converting those quote marks that are outside of tags indicating that the section is code or other exempt section (in HTML these would be pre, code, kbd, orscript). — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: can you require a certain template with lognotedone?
I require a note when certain TODOs are changed to DONE. These are almost always some sort of structured logging. Is there a way to call org-capture and/or require a certain template for that note? That would be a very powerful workflow for me. You could use org-after-todo-state-change-hook to call a function that invokes org-capture, using arbitrary tests to see if the current entry has a particular property, etc. Thank you. This may be beyond my skill right now. And as Darlan pointed out to me offlist, this might be something that should be framed more generically. I do need to start learning about hooks though. — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] how to include time when setting deadlines?
Hi — I understand the time format in orgmode, but something is eluding me. Many of my projects have specific times for deadlines (that is to say, time of day on the date due). I can't see how to enter that other than by hand. When I type C-c C-d, I get the wonderful date prompt system. But I have not been able to discover how to get that to prompt me for the time or to include a time, like it includes month and day, etc. I've spent some time with the manual and searching the archives, but my search skills haven't prevailed. Any advice? TIA — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] how to include time when setting deadlines?
I understand the time format in orgmode, but something is eluding me. Many of my projects have specific times for deadlines (that is to say, time of day on the date due). I can't see how to enter that other than by hand. When I type C-c C-d, I get the wonderful date prompt system. But I have not been able to discover how to get that to prompt me for the time or to include a time, like it includes month and day, etc. I've spent some time with the manual and searching the archives, but my search skills haven't prevailed. Any advice? What you get is really a date time prompt and not just a date prompt. You could enter date in any of the ways given in the org-manual [1]. There is just one example on how to enter the time, given in the manual 22 sept 0:34 -- 2006-09-22 0:34 But, entering time this way works with whatever format you use for entering the date. Enter the date and then enter time with a space separating the date and time. That part I understand. Here is my habit: I type C-c Cd and then use the SHIFT-arrow key in the minibuffer to select the date. I see that I can type in one of many strings that would give me the date and time, but I was looking for something equally simple. Not that entering the date + time string in one format or another isn't also simple. Playing with that a bit, I just discovered that I can still select the DATE in that manner in the minibuffer and if I then just type in the time in place, I get the fully formed DATE+TIME deadline. That works. I think I was naively assuming there was a similar navigation shortcut for the TIME component. Thank you! — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: why would org-mode-hook be a void variable?
I guess my main question is why org-mode-hook would be a void variable. Did I not capture something from the instructions in the manual? Is there something that needs to be set before hand? I'm just not sure where to look. Did you initialize org-mode with (require 'org-install) Yes. Made sure of it. No change. Any other ideas? — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] can you require a certain template with lognotedone?
Hi — I asked Darlan this off-list and then I realized that it might be of broader interest. I require a note when certain TODOs are changed to DONE. These are almost always some sort of structured logging. Is there a way to call org-capture and/or require a certain template for that note? That would be a very powerful workflow for me. TIA — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Symbol's function definition is void: org-face-from-face-or-color
Hi all — Another in a long line of newbie questions I'm running 6.33x on Aquamacs. Whenever I rebuild my agenda, I get this message: Symbol's function definition is void: org-face-from-face-or-color. I know enough to get a backtrace, but not enough to read it. I've appended it below. Can anyone help point the way? TIA, as usual. — Michael Backtrace: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function org-face-from-face-or-color) (org-face-from-face-or-color (quote priority) nil (cdr (assoc p org-priority-faces))) (cond ((org-face-from-face-or-color ... nil ...)) ((and ... ...)) ((equal p l) (quote italic)) ((equal p h) (quote bold))) (overlay-put ov (quote face) (cond (...) (...) (... ...) (... ...))) (while (re-search-forward \\[#\\(.\\)\\] nil t) (setq h (or ... org-highest-priority) l (or ... org-lowest-priority) p (string-to-char ...) b (match-beginning 0) e (if ... ... ...) ov (make-overlay b e)) (overlay-put ov (quote face) (cond ... ... ... ...)) (overlay-put ov (quote org-type) (quote org-priority))) (let ((inhibit-read-only t) b e p ov h l) (goto-char (point-min)) (while (re-search-forward \\[#\\(.\\)\\] nil t) (setq h ... l ... p ... b ... e ... ov ...) (overlay-put ov ... ...) (overlay-put ov ... ...))) (save-excursion (let (... b e p ov h l) (goto-char ...) (while ... ... ... ...))) org-agenda-fontify-priorities() (progn (org-agenda-fontify-priorities)) (if org-agenda-fontify-priorities (progn (org-agenda-fontify-priorities))) (when org-agenda-fontify-priorities (org-agenda-fontify-priorities)) (save-excursion (let (...) (goto-char ...) (while ... ...) (org-agenda-align-tags) (unless org-agenda-with-colors ...)) (if (and ... org-agenda-overriding-columns-format) (org-set-local ... org-agenda-overriding-columns-format)) (if (and ... org-agenda-view-columns-initially) (org-agenda-columns)) (when org-agenda-fontify-priorities (org-agenda-fontify-priorities)) (when (and org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks org-blocker-hook) (org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks)) (org-agenda-mark-clocking-task) (when org-agenda-entry-text-mode (org-agenda-entry-text-hide) (org-agenda-entry-text-show)) (if (functionp ...) (org-habit-insert-consistency-graphs)) (run-hooks (quote org-finalize-agenda-hook)) (setq org-agenda-type (org-get-at-bol ...)) (when (get ... :preset-filter) (org-agenda-filter-apply org-agenda-filter))) (if org-agenda-multi nil (save-excursion (let ... ... ... ... ...) (if ... ...) (if ... ...) (when org-agenda-fontify-priorities ...) (when ... ...) (org-agenda-mark-clocking-task) (when org-agenda-entry-text-mode ... ...) (if ... ...) (run-hooks ...) (setq org-agenda-type ...) (when ... ...))) (unless org-agenda-multi (save-excursion (let ... ... ... ... ...) (if ... ...) (if ... ...) (when org-agenda-fontify-priorities ...) (when ... ...) (org-agenda-mark-clocking-task) (when org-agenda-entry-text-mode ... ...) (if ... ...) (run-hooks ...) (setq org-agenda-type ...) (when ... ...))) org-finalize-agenda() (let* ((org-agenda-start-on-weekday ...) (thefiles ...) (files thefiles) (today ...) (sd ...) (start ...) (day-numbers ...) (day-cnt 0) (inhibit-redisplay ...) s e rtn rtnall file date d start-pos end-pos todayp nd wd clocktable-start clocktable-end) (setq org-agenda-redo-command (list ... ... start-day ndays)) (setq ndays (or ndays org-agenda-ndays) nd ndays) (while ( ndays 1) (push ... day-numbers) (setq ndays ...)) (setq day-numbers (nreverse day-numbers)) (setq clocktable-start (car day-numbers) clocktable-end (1+ ...)) (org-prepare-agenda Day/Week) (org-set-local (quote org-starting-day) (car day-numbers)) (org-set-local (quote org-include-all-loc) include-all) (org-set-local (quote org-agenda-span) (org-agenda-ndays-to-span nd)) (when (and ... ...) (setq files thefiles rtnall nil) (while ... ...) (when rtnall ... ... ... ...)) (unless org-agenda-compact-blocks (let* ... ... ...) (add-text-properties s ... ...) (org-agenda-mark-header-line s)) (while (setq d ...) (setq date ... wd ... s ...) (if ... ... ...) (setq files thefiles rtnall nil) (while ... ...) (if org-agenda-include-diary ...) (if ... ...)) (when (and org-agenda-clockreport-mode clocktable-start) (let ... ... ... ... ... ... ...)) (goto-char (point-min)) (or org-agenda-multi (org-fit-agenda-window)) (unless (and ... ...) (goto-char ...) (recenter -1) (if ... ...)) (goto-char (or start-pos 1)) (add-text-properties (point-min) (point-max) (quote ...)) (org-finalize-agenda) (setq buffer-read-only t) (message )) org-agenda-list(nil) (let ((org-deadline-warning-days 0) (org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-deadline-is-shown t) (org-agenda-skip-function ...)) (org-agenda-list current-prefix-arg)) eval((let ((org-deadline-warning-days 0) (org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-deadline-is-shown t) (org-agenda-skip-function ...)) (org-agenda-list current-prefix-arg))) org-let(((org-deadline-warning-days 0) (org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-deadline-is-shown t)
Re: [Orgmode] Symbol's function definition is void: org-face-from-face-or-color
On Jul 9,2010, at 12:18 AM, David Maus wrote: I'm running 6.33x on Aquamacs. Whenever I rebuild my agenda, I get this message: Symbol's function definition is void: org-face-from-face-or-color. I know enough to get a backtrace, but not enough to read it. I've appended it below. Can anyone help point the way? Looks like a mixup of Org mode version: The function `org-face-from-face-or-color' was introduced February, 25th 2010 (commit 6fbdb8074e0c83b6a2160cf31665d2d0a99c3d77), in January 2010 6.34c was released. 6.33 doesn't have this function. Could you check if there are other Org versions besides the one shipped with Aquamacs are in your load path? Thank you, David. That was the insight I needed. I normally pull from the most recent build, but somehow an (require 'org) had slipped into the top of my startup file. Solved! — M ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] trouble with Imenu integration
And another Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly): (add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar Imenu))) But I get this error: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable ’org-mode-hook) (add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar Imenu))) eval((add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar Imenu eval-last-sexp-1(nil) eval-last-sexp(nil) call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil) What am I missing? — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] why would org-mode-hook be a void variable? (was: trouble with Imenu integration)
I guess my main question is why org-mode-hook would be a void variable. Did I not capture something from the instructions in the manual? Is there something that needs to be set before hand? I'm just not sure where to look. — Michael On Jul 9,2010, at 3:33 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly): (add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar Imenu))) But I get this error: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable ’org-mode-hook) (add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar Imenu))) eval((add-hook ’org-mode-hook (lambda nil (imenu-add-to-menubar Imenu eval-last-sexp-1(nil) eval-last-sexp(nil) call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] moving past state changes into logbook drawer?
Hi — I am just now transitioning to logging state changes into a logbook drawer. But I have legacy agenda files with hundreds of lines that were not put into that drawer. Does anyone know of a convenient way to move all the past state changes into the suitable drawer? If that in the manual, I'm afraid I missed it. TIA! — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] tabular logging of values in habits and other repeating tasks
Hi — So, I think there must be a way to do this, but I'm stumped. Here's what I am trying to set up: I want to be able to log a series of values (rather than just DONE or note) for my habits. For example: Did I run today? can be tracked with regular logging. But OK, you ran. How many miles? can't, as far as I can tell. I know I can set those tasks to offer up an interface for notes, but each of those notes is a distinct item, right? I want to find a way to leverage the power of orgmode tables/columns by logging a value (or possibly more than one) in a single table with a line for each repetition of the task. So, for one habit the value might be miles run. I'm a tango dancer, so for another the value might be minutes of drills done. I can imagine circumstances with more than one column as well. For example, if I were tracking exercise in general, I might want one column for the type of exercise and another for the number of minutes performed. In general, I am trying to break my ties to a number of simpler data-logging tools (web apps, text files) and just centralize this into Org-Mode where it belongs. Any advice? — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] tabular logging of values in habits and other repeating tasks
On Jul 5,2010, at 2:01 AM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote: You can create a table in the task and possibly a template (with org capture) to easily add a new line to this table. Whenever you complete the task you add the information to the table and mark the task as DONE. An advantage of this is that you can use the org-babel powers to make whatever you want with the information. Thank you, Darlan — that is more or less what I thought. But here's the thing (which betrays by rather shallow understanding of org-mode at this point): I know how to create such a table. But what I don't know is how to get the prompt to enter a new row. The notes function for tasks that are marked done don't navigate you to a previously defined block of text, if I'm not mistaken. So, there would be a lot of hand-navigation to make each entry. Perhaps Im misunderstanding something, but I am seeking the ease of use of the notes prompt, but with each new entry being not a separate note, but a row in that table. Thoughts? — Michael At Mon, 5 Jul 2010 00:46:38 -0700, Michael Gilbert m...@gilbert.org wrote: performed. In general, I am trying to break my ties to a number of simpler data-logging tools (web apps, text files) and just centralize this into Org-Mode where it belongs. Any advice? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] tabular logging of values in habits and other repeating tasks
Darlan — Thank you for the additional hand-holding. This will be very useful to me. Much obliged! — Michael On Jul 5,2010, at 2:06 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote: What I though is something like the task below --8---cut here---start-8--- * TODO Running :PROPERTIES: :STYLE:habit :END: | Date | Place| Distance | |--+--+--| | [2010-07-03 Sáb] | Park Something | 6km | | [2010-07-05 Seg] | Some other place | 5km | --8---cut here---end---8--- You then create a template that adds a line after the hline in the table. That way the most recent completed task would be in the top. Whenever you do the task you call org-capture with the template to add a new line to the table and then mark the task as done. It is true that adding the line and marking the task as done are not a single thing, but with org-capture you can add a line to the table from any buffer without needing to go until the task heading and the table keeps everything more organized. Also, you can give this table a name and do whatever you want with it using org babel super powers. You could easily calculate the mean distance that you run, the variance, maybe even plot the distances that you run in each day (there is probably a way to use the inactive timestamps as values for the x axis). This would not be possible if you store the information as notes in the task. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] preventing automatic rebuild of agenda on refiling?
I may have missed when this happened or if it's been discussed already, but I'm noticing that recent Org-mode automatically rebuilds the agenda each time I refile a task. This can dramatically slow down the process of refiling a lot of items. Is there a setting to change this? As far as I am aware of: No, you currently cannot disable it for a single refile operation. But, if you refile a lot of items you might try Agenda's bulk action: http://orgmode.org/manual/Agenda-commands.html Bulk actions actually do not rebuld the agenda. But if I'm not mistaken, they involve refiling all the marked items to the same destination. That hasn't been my workflow at all. This is a frustrating change. I guess my option now is to jump to the item in question, refile it, then jump back. But given that in my current workflow I refile scores of items during my daily prep... Ugh. I'm sure there was a good reason for the change, but it just doesn't suit how I've come to use Org-mode. Anyway, if there are any other ideas out there other than waiting for the roundtrip of the rebuild or jumping back and forth to the source files, I would be interested in hearing them! TIA! — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: preventing automatic rebuild of agenda on refiling?
I may have missed when this happened or if it's been discussed already, but I'm noticing that recent Org-mode automatically rebuilds the agenda each time I refile a task. This can dramatically slow down the process of refiling a lot of items. Is there a setting to change this? As far as I am aware of: No, you currently cannot disable it for a single refile operation. But, if you refile a lot of items you might try Agenda's bulk action: http://orgmode.org/manual/Agenda-commands.html Bulk actions actually do not rebuld the agenda. But if I'm not mistaken, they involve refiling all the marked items to the same destination. That hasn't been my workflow at all. This is a frustrating change. I guess my option now is to jump to the item in question, refile it, then jump back. But given that in my current workflow I refile scores of items during my daily prep... Ugh. I'm sure there was a good reason for the change, but it just doesn't suit how I've come to use Org-mode. Anyway, if there are any other ideas out there other than waiting for the roundtrip of the rebuild or jumping back and forth to the source files, I would be interested in hearing them! If you give a triple prefix argument to org-agenda-refile, the agenda will not be rebuilt. If you'd like this as the default behavior, you can bind it to a key (or change the original binding): (define-key org-agenda-mode-map \C-c\C-w (lambda () (interactive) (org-agenda-refile nil nil t))) Fantastic. I can experiment with adapting my workflow, but this is so useful. Deeply appreciated. — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] preventing automatic rebuild of agenda on refiling?
Hi — I may have missed when this happened or if it's been discussed already, but I'm noticing that recent Org-mode automatically rebuilds the agenda each time I refile a task. This can dramatically slow down the process of refiling a lot of items. Is there a setting to change this? TIA — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] filter agenda by priority?
Hi all — Been through the manual. Might be missing something obvious. But, is there a straightforward way to filter the Agenda by Priority? I find that I would actually USE priorities more if I could figure out how to do this. TIA! — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] workflow objective... how to display ONE task, take notes on it, etc
Thank you to Tycho Bernt. You both got be down the right rode. I've now managed to find several acceptable ways to do this. — Michael On Mar 10,2010, at 3:32 PM, Michael Gilbert wrote: Org-mode just keeps growing on me. Now I have workflow I want to check out. It's my habit to try to clear my screen of everything except the one task I am working on (and logging) and its associated documents and tools. I want to try to implement this in orgmode. Ideally, it would look something like this: - select a task from the AGENDA - drill down to a view of just that task with only the task subordinate items visible - edit those subordinate items, especially notes - log the time I spend there - log out, save notes, change task status - return to agenda Am I missing some obvious built-in way to do this? (I find that this has happened so often, regardless of how esoteric my objective) that I had better ask. Or could someone help me think through how it might be done? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] due today agenda command stopped working
Hi — A while back, Carsten helped me out with a due today custom agenda command. This is it: (setq org-agenda-custom-commands '((d Due today agenda ((org-deadline-warning-days 0) (org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-deadline-is-shown t) (org-agenda-skip-function (lambda () (let* ((dl (org-entry-get nil DEADLINE))) (if (or (not dl) (equal dl ) (org-time dl (org-time-today))) (progn (outline-next-heading) (point ) I routinely keep up with org-mode updates and recently this stopped working properly. What it does now is list a small subset of the items due today. After an hour looking at them, I can't figure out why it's leaving most of them out. The pattern just isn't clear to me. I'm wondering if something this command depends upon has changed. Well, probably it has, but the questions are: What changed? And is there another solution to the due today custom command? Any thoughts? — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] workflow objective... how to display ONE task, take notes on it, etc
Hi — Org-mode just keeps growing on me. Now I have workflow I want to check out. It's my habit to try to clear my screen of everything except the one task I am working on (and logging) and its associated documents and tools. I want to try to implement this in orgmode. Ideally, it would look something like this: - select a task from the AGENDA - drill down to a view of just that task with only the task subordinate items visible - edit those subordinate items, especially notes - log the time I spend there - log out, save notes, change task status - return to agenda Am I missing some obvious built-in way to do this? (I find that this has happened so often, regardless of how esoteric my objective) that I had better ask. Or could someone help me think through how it might be done? Sadly, I'm an emacs and elisp newbie, so that will be a barrier, but any help would be most appreciated. TIA — Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Org-mode related bug reintroduced in Aquamacs (was: Refile error - Kill is not a (set of) trees)
Carsten - In August of last year, you cleared up a big with the Aquamacs team (see below). It seems that this bug has been reintroduced with latest builds of Aquamacs. -- Michael On Aug 15,2009, at 9:15 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Michael, hi Stefan, I have now finally been able to reproduce this problem. It is a bug in Aquamacs 2.0. Could one of you please propagate this issue to the Aquamacs maintainer? In Aquamacs Distribution 2.0preview2, at least the following commands fail to set the kill ring appropriately: (copy-region-as-kill beg end) (kill-kill-region beg end) After these commands, in normal Emacs operations, (current-kill 0) will return the content of the copied/killed region. Not so in Aquamacs. This breaks Org-mode and presumably other packages that will use these function calls. This used to work in earlier version of Aquamacs. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] agenda actions unexpectedly open files
Hi -- This is so odd. Most of the time, but not always, when I mark an item as DONE in the agenda, it pops open the file containing the item. I'm just now noticing that it's doing the same thing when I clock in. This obviously really messes with my workflow. This started someplace along my upgrade process, but I can't put my finger on when. I'm running Aquamacs Distribution 2.0preview3 (GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1) with org-mode 6.32, but this has been happening for a few weeks now. Any advice? -- Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] org-agenda-skip-entry-if 'notdeadline?
Hi -- Still trying to figure out how to show only (current) deadlines in my agenda. I use org-agenda-skip-entry-if 'notdeadline but that still seems to include all the scheduled items who have deadlines (some time in the future, but not currently). I apologize for missing something obvious, but ... any advice? -- Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] agenda with only deadlines?
Hi -- I'm still struggling with this one: My main agenda view has both scheduled and deadlined items, but I'm interested in creating a custom view that shows only items who have a deadline of today or past due. This isn't working for me: (setq org-agenda-custom-commands '((d Due today agenda ((org-deadline-warning-days 0) (org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-deadline-is-shown t) (org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 'notdeadline )) This one shows all sorts if items that have deadlines in the future, displaying them as scheduled. Yes, many items item have both timestamps. Suggestions? TIA! -- Michael P.S. Also, the documentation often lists various settings as examples. I am not an experienced emacs user, so I am curious... how do I go about finding comprehensive lists of settings for various contexts? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] total effort in filtered column view of agenda?
Hi -- When I filter the agenda in come way, the total at the top of the EFFORT column is still unfiltered. That is to say it isn't the total of the items displayed. I can see the point of this, but in my case I am playing with filters to help me narrow tasks to the time available. Is there a way for me to change how that total functions so that it coincides with (ie: only shows the total for) the tasks displayed? TIA -- Michael Michael C. Gilbert -- m...@gilbert.org The Gilbert Center -- http://gilbert.org Nonprofit Online News -- http://nonprofitnews.org There can be no joy of life without joy of work. -- Aquinas ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Can effort be edited conveniently outside column view?
Bernt, Manish, Carsten -- Thank you each for perspectives and tips. I now have more options for more contexts for effort editing. Thank you! -- M P.S. An FWIW, effort editing a bunch of items in context of each other works very well in column view for me. But since I tend to compose and take notes in outline view, the one-off method Carsten described is very helpful. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Is it possible to edit Effort remotely from the Agenda?
A few weeks into stable org usage (thanks again for getting Aquamacs to fix that issue) and I am starting to push past basic knowledge. I realize that there are many things that can be editing remotely from the agenda. One of the properties I most want to be able to edit is Effort. Is this possible? If you display effort in the agenda in column view (C-c C-x C-c), you can edit the effort by using Shift-right or Shift-left or e. This is working wonderfully, albeit with some lag. Thank you! -- Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Can effort be edited conveniently outside column view?
Hi -- Still working on developing my use of effort estimates. Is there a way to conveniently enter an effort estimate without entering column mode? I have gotten used to the easy ways to add deadlines and priorities in outline view and wondering if there was something similar. -- Michael Michael C. Gilbert -- m...@gilbert.org The Gilbert Center -- http://gilbert.org Nonprofit Online News -- http://nonprofitnews.org There can be no joy of life without joy of work. -- Aquinas ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] orgmode opening source file from agenda when marking as done
Hi all -- I seem to have mysteriously flipped some setting or other. Now, whenever I set a repeating item in my agenda as done, orgmode opens up the source file with that item in it, in a split frame. I have no idea why or what I'm supposed to do with that, but it sure slows down my workflow. Any tips on what's happening here? -- Michael Michael C. Gilbert -- m...@gilbert.org The Gilbert Center -- http://gilbert.org Nonprofit Online News -- http://nonprofitnews.org There can be no joy of life without joy of work. -- Aquinas ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: orgmode opening source file from agenda when marking as done
On Aug 17,2009, at 12:31 PM, Samuel Wales wrote: A long shot: check the value of your after todo state change hook. Sorry. Noob still. What does that mean? -- M ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: orgmode opening source file from agenda when marking as done
On Aug 17,2009, at 1:16 PM, Samuel Wales wrote: org-after-todo-state-change-hook is a variable defined in `org.el'. Thank you, John for the detailed explanation. Thank you, Samuel, for this help. The value, alas, is nil. Other ideas? -- M ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Refile error - Kill is not a (set of) trees
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: could you please do the following: - Run Emacs with a minimal configuration - Make me a test file that will let me reproduce the bug if possible. I followed Chris Mann's example and did the following: 1) Create a file `reproduce.org', with the following contents: Level1-1 ** Level2-1 *** TODO Level3-1 SCHEDULED: 2009-08-05 Wed ** Level2-2 * Level1-2 2) Ran emacs clean, with no preferences file. 3) Executed this, to make sure I was using the latest orgmode: (setq load-path (cons ~/Applications/Text/Aquamacs/contrib/org/lisp load-path)) Checked to make sure. Yes, it's 6.29trans 4) Moved the points to Level3-1. C-c C-w. Attempt to refile to Level1-2. 5) The kill is not a (set of) trees etc. Running: Aquamacs, Emacs 23.1.1 Org-Mode 6.29trans I am at the end of this. My pile of things to refile is now so huge that my agenda is incomprehensible. I really do not know what to do here. The error is real. I hope that this reproduction is in some way useful. Is there something else I can do? Backtrace? Examine the kill- ring? -- Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Refile error - Kill is not a (set of) trees
On Aug 15,2009, at 12:04 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Michael, On Aug 15, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: could you please do the following: - Run Emacs with a minimal configuration - Make me a test file that will let me reproduce the bug if possible. I followed Chris Mann's example and did the following: 1) Create a file `reproduce.org', with the following contents: Level1-1 Is there a star missing here before Level1-1? Yes, just a copy error here in my email. The original file has the star. ** Level2-1 *** TODO Level3-1 SCHEDULED: 2009-08-05 Wed ** Level2-2 * Level1-2 2) Ran emacs clean, with no preferences file. 3) Executed this, to make sure I was using the latest orgmode: (setq load-path (cons ~/Applications/Text/Aquamacs/contrib/org/ lisp load-path)) Checked to make sure. Yes, it's 6.29trans 4) Moved the points to Level3-1. C-c C-w. Attempt to refile to Level1-2. So you are refiling en entry to the same position where is was before? OK, this it not forbidden. No. I think that is meant to move it DOWN to the bottom entry. 5) The kill is not a (set of) trees etc. For me it works just fine. I just tried in AquaEmacs. Huh. This is so strange. Wish we could reproduce this OYM. Running: Aquamacs, Emacs 23.1.1 Org-Mode 6.29trans I am at the end of this. My pile of things to refile is now so huge that my agenda is incomprehensible. I really do not know what to do here. The error is real. I hope that this reproduction is in some way useful. Is there something else I can do? Backtrace? Examine the kill-ring? Yes, backtrace, and the content of the kill ring would be interesting. Backtrace with uncompiled code if possible, press C-u C-c C-x ! before trying to create the bug. Here's the backtrace: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error The kill is not a (set of) tree(s) - please use S-insertchar to yank anyway) signal(error (The kill is not a (set of) tree(s) - please use S- insertchar to yank anyway)) ad-Orig-error(%s The kill is not a (set of) tree(s) - please use S-insertchar to yank anyway) apply(ad-Orig-error (%s The kill is not a (set of) tree(s) - please use S-insertchar to yank anyway)) (setq ad-return-value (apply (quote ad-Orig-error) args)) (if aquamacs-ring-bell-on-error-flag (progn (aquamacs-bell) (setq ad-return-value ...)) (setq ad-return-value (apply ... args))) (let (ad-return-value) (if aquamacs-ring-bell-on-error-flag (progn ... ...) (setq ad-return-value ...)) ad-return-value) error(%s The kill is not a (set of) tree(s) - please use S- insertchar to yank anyway) (if (org-kill-is-subtree-p tree) nil (error %s (substitute- command-keys The kill is not a (set of) tree(s) - please use \\[yank] to yank anyway))) (unless (org-kill-is-subtree-p tree) (error %s (substitute- command-keys The kill is not a (set of) tree(s) - please use \\[yank] to yank anyway))) org-paste-subtree(2) (save-restriction (widen) (if pos (progn ... ... ... ...) (setq level 1) (if ... ... ... ...)) (if (not ...) (newline)) (bookmark-set org-refile-last-stored) (org-paste-subtree level) (if (fboundp ...) (deactivate-mark)) (run-hooks (quote org-after-refile-insert-hook))) (save-excursion (save-restriction (widen) (if pos ... ... ...) (if ... ...) (bookmark-set org-refile-last-stored) (org-paste- subtree level) (if ... ...) (run-hooks ...))) (save-excursion (set-buffer (setq nbuf ...)) (setq reversed (org- notes-order-reversed-p)) (save-excursion (save- restriction ... ... ... ... ... ... ...))) (if goto (progn (switch-to-buffer nbuf) (goto-char pos) (org-show- context ...)) (if regionp (progn ... ...) (org-copy-subtree 1 nil t)) (save-excursion (set-buffer ...) (setq reversed ...) (save- excursion ...)) (if regionp (delete-region ... ...) (org-cut-subtree)) (when (featurep ...) (org-inlinetask-remove-END-maybe)) (setq org- markers-to-move nil) (message Refiled to \%s\ (car it))) (progn (setq file (nth 1 it) re (nth 2 it) pos (nth 3 it)) (if (and ... pos ... ...) (error Cannot refile to position inside the tree or region)) (setq nbuf (or ... ...)) (if goto (progn ... ... ...) (if regionp ... ...) (save-excursion ... ... ...) (if regionp ... ...) (when ... ...) (setq org-markers-to-move nil) (message Refiled to \%s\ ...))) (if (setq it (or rfloc ...)) (progn (setq file ... re ... pos ...) (if ... ...) (setq nbuf ...) (if goto ... ... ... ... ... ... ...))) (when (setq it (or rfloc ...)) (setq file (nth 1 it) re (nth 2 it) pos (nth 3 it)) (if (and ... pos ... ...) (error Cannot refile to position inside the tree or region)) (setq nbuf (or ... ...)) (if goto (progn ... ... ...) (if regionp ... ...) (save- excursion ... ... ...) (if regionp ... ...) (when ... ...) (setq org- markers-to-move nil) (message Refiled to \%s\ ...))) (if (equal goto (quote ...)) (org-refile-goto-last-stored) (when (setq
[Orgmode] Thank you, Carsten, others (was: Refile error - Kill is not a (set of) trees)
On Aug 15,2009, at 9:15 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Michael, hi Stefan, I have now finally been able to reproduce this problem. It is a bug in Aquamacs 2.0. Could one of you please propagate this issue to the Aquamacs maintainer? snip Thank you for your patience and persistence, Carsten. Looks like Stefan passed this on the the Aquamacs list. I might make a little donation (I can't contribute code, which is what they want) over there to see if I can bring attention to this issue, but I hope that knowing they have broken org-mode and other things might matter. We will see. Thank you, again. -- Michael Michael C. Gilbert -- m...@gilbert.org The Gilbert Center -- http://gilbert.org Nonprofit Online News -- http://nonprofitnews.org There can be no joy of life without joy of work. -- Aquinas ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Refile error - Kill is not a (set of) trees
Hi -- I have more information on this error. I think I've traced it down to whether the command is actually killing the current element in the first place. I had a clipboard management function working in Quicksilver and got rid of that in order to test this better. I got an error on refiling, but it was a different error this time. One about the element being empty, IIRC. Am I misunderstanding refile? Do I have to do more than have the cursor on the line to be moved? And is there a way I can further backtrace this so that it might be useful for troubleshooting by others? Or screencast the error so you can see I am not making this up? I am enamored of orgmode now, but I'm on the verge of abandoning it because I have a notes file from which I cannot conveniently refile tasks and it's becoming unmanageable. -- Michael On Jun 26,2009, at 1:14 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: I am unable to reproduce this problem. - Carsten On Jun 25, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Michael Gilbert wrote: I am a noob - drawn to the alien world of Emacs (from my familiar Mac environment) by OrgMode. I am uncertain enough that I don't rightly know if this is best described as an OrgMode error or an Emacs error. Most likely a human error, I guess. I am using last night's Aquamacs build: GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i386- apple-darwin9.7.0, NS apple-appkit-949.46) of 2009-06-23 on BRAEBURN.PSY.CMU.EDU - Aquamacs Distribution 2.0dev. Org-mode 6.21b. In OrgMode, I am trying to learn to refile tasks. I use C-c C-w on a TODO item in a notes file. It goes through the process of allowing me to select the destination for the item. But then it throws an error - Kill is not a (set of) trees etc - every time. Doesn't kill the TODO and obviously doesn't yank it to the new location. Are you selecting a region before calling the command? That region might be not a valid tree. I have done this with the point (that's the emacs word for cursor, right?) in a TODO item. I have done it with the entire item selected as a region. I am happy to backtrace this or test in whatever way is needed. I knew I was getting into something complex here. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Refile error - Kill is not a (set of) trees
I am a noob - drawn to the alien world of Emacs (from my familiar Mac environment) by OrgMode. I am uncertain enough that I don't rightly know if this is best described as an OrgMode error or an Emacs error. Most likely a human error, I guess. I am using last night's Aquamacs build: GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i386- apple-darwin9.7.0, NS apple-appkit-949.46) of 2009-06-23 on BRAEBURN.PSY.CMU.EDU - Aquamacs Distribution 2.0dev. Org-mode 6.21b. In OrgMode, I am trying to learn to refile tasks. I use C-c C-w on a TODO item in a notes file. It goes through the process of allowing me to select the destination for the item. But then it throws an error - Kill is not a (set of) trees etc - every time. Doesn't kill the TODO and obviously doesn't yank it to the new location. Are you selecting a region before calling the command? That region might be not a valid tree. I have done this with the point (that's the emacs word for cursor, right?) in a TODO item. I have done it with the entire item selected as a region. I am happy to backtrace this or test in whatever way is needed. I knew I was getting into something complex here. -- Michael Michael C. Gilbert -- m...@gilbert.org The Gilbert Center -- http://gilbert.org Nonprofit Online News -- http://nonprofitnews.org There can be no joy of life without joy of work. -- Aquinas ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Refile error - Kill is not a (set of) trees
Hi all -- I am a noob - drawn to the alien world of Emacs (from my familiar Mac environment) by OrgMode. I am uncertain enough that I don't rightly know if this is best described as an OrgMode error or an Emacs error. Most likely a human error, I guess. I am using last night's Aquamacs build: GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i386- apple-darwin9.7.0, NS apple-appkit-949.46) of 2009-06-23 on BRAEBURN.PSY.CMU.EDU - Aquamacs Distribution 2.0dev. Org-mode 6.21b. In OrgMode, I am trying to learn to refile tasks. I use C-c C-w on a TODO item in a notes file. It goes through the process of allowing me to select the destination for the item. But then it throws an error - Kill is not a (set of) trees etc - every time. Doesn't kill the TODO and obviously doesn't yank it to the new location. Any advice? -- Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
