Re: [O] How to populate a 'list of figures'?

[Peter Frings]

> On 07 Sep 2016, at 12:52, Sharon Kimble  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm having great difficulty in being able to generate and populate a
> 'list of figures' in my orgmode-2-latex document. I currently have this
> as a figure in my org-mode file -

[snip]

> However, when I generate the pdf using xelatex all that it shows for my
> list of figures is 'List of Figures'!
> 
> So how can I get the list of figures to be populated please?

To get the list of figures (or any other reference, for that matter), you have 
to typeset your document twice. The first time, tex build a list of figures (in 
a separate file, with .lof extension); the second time, it inserts that list 
where the \listoffigures{} is. This is common to tex: you have to typeset twice 
to get the references and lists correct.

Cheers,
Peter.

Re: [O] Function that splits a CLOCK interval

[Peter Frings]

On 31 Mar 2015, at 18:59, Christoph LANGE math.semantic@gmail.com wrote:

 I use org's clocking facility to clock all my working time.  I frequently 
 find myself clocking time for a task T1, but later realize that I actually 
 spent part of this time on some other task T2.
[snip]
 The following function now automates the task of splitting:

Fantastic, just what I needed! 

One little thing, though. When I interrupt the function with C-g at the prompt, 
the current line is already duplicated. It would by nice that C-g left the 
buffer unchanged.

But other than that, this is a godsend for sloppy time-loggers like me.

Cheers,
Peter.

Re: [O] Org-mode Tables not showing correctly in graphical emacs

[Peter Frings]

Hi David,

On 26 Jun 2014, at 08:54, David Rose david.r...@jeppesen.com wrote:

 I am not sure if this is an actual bug or if I am just missing some
 new setting/configuration option, but when in a graphical emacs window
 org-mode table alignments are way off, yet when in a 'terminal' window
 emacs session tables are shown as expected. 

It will help a lot when you pick a mono-spaced (fixed width) font (courier, 
monaco, …). The Terminal mode uses such a font, as you can easily see by the 
width of the letter ‘i’.

Cheers,
Peter.

Re: [O] idea, in-line preview link

[peter . frings]

Good day all,

On 05 Apr 2012, at 13:55, Christian Moe wrote:

 One of my first Lisp projects was a link type that behaves a bit like what 
 you describe.
 
 I don't bother with placing the snippet inline, though, I just flash it as a 
 message in the minibuffer. But I also leave it on the kill ring, so I can C-y 
 it into my current buffer if I like.

From a UX pov, changing the clipboard/kill-ring behind the user’s back is a bad 
thing to do, especially when the intention of the user action is only to have a 
quick look at that link. Suppose org-mode copied a whole sub-tree when all you 
did was to expand it... just in case you wanted to copy a piece of it.

In my opinion, it’s better to provide an explicit command to 
copy/insert/open/... the content of that link.

Cheers,
Peter.

Re: [O] [babel] What is `, (backquote comma)?

[peter . frings]

On 21 Sep 2011, at 21:48, Jambunathan K wrote:

 I learnt more about all the strange looking `', creatures by cursorily
 reading the first link and casually looking at the flip-flop diagram
 seen on the second link.
 
 http://www.lisperati.com/syntax.html
 http://www.lisperati.com/looking.html
 
 I am surprised that a book that seems so playful could convey a
 fundamental/foundational idea in such simple and succinct terms.

I can heartily recommend the book “Land Of Lisp”, by the same author.


Cheers,
Peter
-- 
You can use an eraser on the drawing table, 
or a sledge hammer on the construction site. 
— Frank Lloyd Wright

Re: [O] Problem with shift-up

[peter . frings]

Good morning all,


I’ve got some answers for Bastien and Ista below. 


On 19 Aug 2011, at 22:10, Bastien wrote:

 Peter Frings peter.fri...@agfa.com writes:
 
 When loading the starter-kit from Kieran Healy [1], 
 
 AFAIU, this starter-kit relies on the commit c88c76b of Org:
 https://github.com/kjhealy/emacs-starter-kit/tree/master/src
 
 Please make sure to report what your exact version of Org is (M-x
 org-version), that might help.

org-mode 7.7. However, it does not seem like an org problem since it works fine 
with a minimal org set-up.


 In both cases, 'shift-select-mode’ is t.
 
 What is the value of `org-support-shift-select'?  Maybe the 
 starter-kit is setting this variable.

nil


 What the heck is ‘translating’ this key binding? 
 
 When a composed keybinding like S-up does not point to any command,
 Emacs translates it to up and use the associated command instead.
 
 How can I find the guilty one so I can do very cruel things to it?
 
 I suggest you ask to the author of the starter-kit :)

Might not be a bad idea :-)


On 19 Aug 2011, at 22:37, Ista Zahn wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Peter Frings peter.fri...@agfa.com wrote:
 
 (windmove-default-keybindings) is called in
 starter-kit-keybindings.org, and this does take of the shift +
 direction keys. The 'Helpful packages' section of starter-kit-org.org
 also looks suspicious.

Sorry, I forgot to mention… I disabled those windmove-default-keybindings and 
bound the windmove keys to A-M-left and friends. I also disabled those in the 
starter-kit-org.


I fear that debugging this issue will take way too much time from my work. I 
might go back to something simpler, although I was appealed to the neat 
structure and the use of org mode of setting up emacs. But that same neatness 
and de-structuring makes the whole thing a bit opaque. 

Thanks for the suggestions, and I’m open for more! :-)

Cheers,
Peter.

Re: [O] Problem with shift-up [solved]

[Peter Frings]

Hello all,

On 19 Aug 2011, at 22:10, Bastien wrote:

 Let us know if you make progress,


Yes, I did. I did find the offending command. Hooray!


(setq org-replace-disputed-keys t)

Was set in the init.el file of the starter-kit. 

Now, is it just me or is the relation between this variable and 
‘org-support-shift-select’ slightly confusing?

Anyway, it now works the way I want. Yippie!

Thanks for the patience and the support!
Peter.

Re: [O] missing todo's in agenda after emacs/org upgrade

[peter . frings]

Good morning gents,

I think you nailed it. Thanks!


* Summary
Having the todo list in a daily view is very convenient, but not provided 
out-of-the-box. The enabling of it used to be relatively simply with a single 
variable, but in more recent version it’s now reserved for org-savvy people. 
Hooray for http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-custom-agenda-commands.html


* What the problem was
In Emacs 7.7, the variable org-agenda-include-all-todo no longer affects the 
daily/weekly view as documented. 

** org-agenda-include-all-todo no longer works
The docstrings states:

 docstring 
Set  means weekly/daily agenda will always contain all TODO entries.
The TODO entries will be listed at the top of the agenda, before
the entries for specific days.
This option is deprecated, it is better to define a block agenda instead.


Note that it says it’s deprecated, but it’s still present and describes the 
behavior I was used to. But it doesn’t. Which is in-line what what Puneeth 
mentioned (commit 770c2ddfba5c173d1b33e7b247b49a8188994f76).


** Terminology
Notice that org-agenda-include-all-todo’s docstring mentions ‘block agenda’, as 
does the ‘Agenda View’ chapter in the manual. But that term is nowhere to be 
found in Org’s customization options. You must first find ‘Agenda Custom 
Commands’, but there the docstring mentions “You can also define a set of 
commands, to create a __composite agenda__ buffer.” So there is a problem of 
terminology here.


* Thoughts
I do question this change a bit. I find it very convenient to have my to-do’s 
(scheduled or not) in my day view. Now, I must make a block agenda to get this. 
OK, I can handle that. However, out-of-the box behavior should suit beginners, 
and asking them to make a block agenda as the first thing to do is a bit heavy, 
no? (Have you seen the customization page for that? Frightening!)

So, to get what I used to have[1] I need to define a custom view like this:

(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
   '((h All to-do's and Agenda
  ((alltodo)
   (agenda )

[1] It’s not identical because of the block headers, but that might be 
something that is customizable. Haven’t checked it yet. 

Also, in the older version you could type `d’ or `w' to switch to day or week 
view from anywhere in the buffer; now you must make sure the cursor is on the 
agenda black and not in the todo black. This is a bit annoying.



* Example
Using GNU Emacs 23.3.1

The example uses the todo list from Suvayu’s mail:
 ~/planning/minimal.org 
 * TODO Plumber to fix leak
  2011-08-04 Thu
 
 * TODO RooStats tutorial
  SCHEDULED: 2011-01-25 Tue 09:00
 
 * TODO Analysis deadline
  DEADLINE: 2011-08-19 Fri 15:00

 * TODO Read Dune
  The above 3 entries show up in the agenda, but this one doesn’t.


And a minimal emacs init  file:
 ~/.emacs-minimal 
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.\\(org\\  |org_archive\\|txt\\)$ . 
org-mode))
(setq org-agenda-files '(~/planning/minimal.org))
(require 'org-install)
(require 'org-habit)

(global-set-key \C-ca 'org-agenda)


Start with
/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs --debug-init -Q -l ~/.emacs-minimal


** Behavior with Org 6.33x
Org-mode 6.33x as version with Emacs 23)

*** ‘out of the box’ setup

Do `C-c a a’

Weekly agenda shows=
Week-agenda (W33):
Monday 15 August 2011 W33
Tuesday16 August 2011
Wednesday  17 August 2011
Thursday   18 August 2011
Friday 19 August 2011
   8:00.. 
  10:00.. 
  12:00.. 
  14:00.. 
  minimal:15:00.. Deadline:   TODO Analysis deadline
  16:00.. 
  18:00.. 
  20:00.. 
  minimal:Sched.207x:  TODO RooStats tutorial
Saturday   20 August 2011
Sunday 21 August 2011
-

Daily agenda shows=
Day-agenda (W33):
Friday 19 August 2011
   8:00.. 
  10:00.. 
  12:00.. 
  14:00.. 
  minimal:15:00.. Deadline:   TODO Analysis deadline
  16:00.. 
  18:00.. 
  20:00.. 
  minimal:Sched.207x:  TODO RooStats tutorial


*** To include the TODO items
Add this to the init file (or evaluate):

(setq org-agenda-include-all-todo t)

Re: [O] missing todo's in agenda after emacs/org upgrade

[Peter Frings]

Hello Carsten,


On 19 Aug 2011, at 11:59, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 The two main issues you are having are these:
 
 1. There is no simple way for beginners to get both TODO and agenda in one 
 view
 2. Moving through time does not work in a block view when the cursor is in 
 the TODO list.

A third one would be the docstring of org-agenda-include-all-todo set, 
suggesting that it still works. If there is no intention to revive it, I’d 
suggest to simply remove the entire variable.

About issue 1, there could be a standard, ready-for-use custom command. But 
don’t bother if I’m the only one that finds it convenient.

Fixing 2 would be great. Maybe there are other keystrokes that can be delegated 
to other blocks (e.g. in order of appearance) if the currently-focussed block 
doesn’t handle them?



Cheers,
Peter.
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c++; // this makes c bigger but returns the old value

[O] Problem with shift-up

[Peter Frings]

Hi gang, 

sorry to bother you all again, but my transition to the new emacs is now taking 
days and I’m getting really frustrated. 

I’m trying to find out why shift-arrow on a date/time stamp no longer works 
with my brand new and shiny set-up.

Emacs 23, org-mode 7.7.

When running a minimal set-up (as described on the worg-FAQ), the shift-arrows 
keys work as expected: they change the date and time values in org’s timestamps.

When loading the starter-kit from Kieran Healy [1], things are not so smooth. 
I’ve been disabling all possible packages, trying to isolate the culprit, but 
to no avail. I searched the web and this mailing list, and found someone else 
with the same problem [2], but alas, no conclusive answer.

In both cases, 'shift-select-mode’ is t.

With the minimal set-up,  S-up is bound to this (using C-h k):
S-up runs the command org-shiftup, which is an interactive compiled
Lisp function in `org.el’.

With the starter-kit, it’s:
up (translated from S-up) runs the command previous-line, which is
an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple.el’.

What the heck is ‘translating’ this key binding? How can I find the guilty one 
so I can do very cruel things to it?

Pointers very much appreciated!
Peter.

[1] http://kjhealy.github.com/emacs-starter-kit/
[2] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/34329

[O] missing todo's in agenda after emacs/org upgrade

[Peter Frings]

  Emacs Starter Kit for the Social Sciences: 
Documentation
  :section-numbers t :table-of-contents nil :style
  link rel=\stylesheet\\n 
href=\http://kieranhealy.org/css/blueprint/org-screen.css\\n 
type=\text/css\/)
 )
 org-export-preprocess-before-normalizing-links-hook 
'(org-remove-file-link-modifiers)
 org-use-speed-commands t
 org-replace-disputed-keys t
 org-mode-hook '(org-mode-reftex-setup
 #[nil \300\301\302\303\304$\207
   [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all 
append local] 5]
 (lambda nil (local-set-key \216 (quote 
outline-next-visible-heading))
  (local-set-key \220 (quote 
outline-previous-visible-heading))
  (local-set-key \225 (quote outline-up-heading))
  (local-set-key \227 (quote org-table-copy-region))
  (local-set-key \231 (quote org-table-paste-rectangle))
  (local-set-key \214 (quote org-table-sort-lines))
  (local-set-key \311 (quote org-toggle-iimage-in-org))
  (make-variable-buffer-local (quote yas/trigger-key))
  (setq yas/trigger-key [tab])
  (add-to-list (quote org-tab-first-hook) (quote 
yas/org-very-safe-expand))
  (define-key yas/keymap [tab] (quote yas/next-field)))
 #[nil \300\301\302\303\304$\207
   [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook 
org-babel-show-result-all append local]
   5]
 org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-hashes)
 org-refile-targets '((org-agenda-files :maxlevel . 1))
 org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-clock-update-time-maybe org-babel-hash-at-point
  org-babel-execute-safely-maybe)
 org-tab-follows-link t
 org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'y-or-n-p
 org-shiftright-final-hook '(windmove-right)
 org-export-interblocks '((lob org-babel-exp-lob-one-liners)
  (src org-babel-exp-inline-src-blocks))
 org-clock-out-hook '(org-clock-remove-empty-clock-drawer)
 org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
 org-from-is-user-regexp \\Peter Frings\\
 org-export-preprocess-before-selecting-backend-code-hook 
'(org-beamer-select-beamer-code)
 org-confirm-babel-evaluate nil
 org-tags-column -80
 org-modules '(org-bbdb org-bibtex org-gnus org-info org-jsinfo org-irc 
org-mac-message
   org-mew org-mhe org-rmail org-vm org-wl)
 org-shiftleft-final-hook '(windmove-left)
 org-remember-templates '((Case 99 * TODO [[case:%^{Case}]] - %?\n  %i
   ~/planning/AxReqd.org Cases)
  (Todo 116 * TODO %^{Todo}\n %?%i\n 
~/planning/notes.org Todo)
  (Idea 105 * %^{Idea}\n %?%i\n 
~/planning/notes.org Ideas))
 org-ellipsis  ✎
 org-export-html-style-extra link rel=\stylesheet\ 
href=\http://kieranhealy.org/css/kjh-org-custom.css\; type=\text/css\link 
rel=\stylesheet\ href=\http://kieranhealy.org/css/blueprint/print.css\; 
type=\text/css\ media=\print\ !--[if IE]link rel=\stylesheet\ 
href=\http://kieranhealy.org/css/blueprint/ie.css\; type=\text/css\ 
media=\screen,projection\![endif]--
 org-export-latex-minted-options '((bgcolor bg) (fontsize \\small))
 org-src-tab-acts-natively t
 org-export-latex-final-hook '(org-beamer-amend-header org-beamer-fix-toc
   org-beamer-auto-fragile-frames
   org-beamer-place-default-actions-for-lists)
 org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
 org-export-blocks '((src org-babel-exp-src-block nil)
 (comment org-export-blocks-format-comment t)
 (ditaa org-export-blocks-format-ditaa nil)
 (dot org-export-blocks-format-dot nil))
 )

Re: [O] missing todo's in agenda after emacs/org upgrade

[peter . frings]

Hi Suvayu,

 This is quite an extensive setup. What do you get with only the
 following options:
[remainder at end]

I have removed all customizations, started with an empty org-agenda-files list, 
opened my main planning file and added it to the agenda list. That’s about the 
most basic setup I can get. I do have the logged work now, that is already 
something, but still no TODO items on the current day (in day view). Oh, BTW, 
the Agenda TODO list shows all todo items… go figure!

I switched on 'Org Agenda Include All Todo’, although the description says I 
should better use a block agenda. However, the ‘out of the box’ agenda should 
show the TODO items, no?


I restored my previous set-up and voila, all was there. Grrr. Note that I 
mistakenly reported org-mode’s version of previous setup (with Carbon Emacs) as 
6.6; it’s actually 7.4.


I’ll compare the two set-ups to see if there’s anything obvious (I did that 
already, but having a second look never hurts).

Thanks,
Peter.


[Remainder…]
 
 (setq org-agenda-files
  '(~/planning/planning.org ~/planning/todo.org
   ~/planning/notes.org ~/planning/time-sheet.org)
  org-agenda-include-diary t
  org-todo-keywords
  '((sequence TODO(t) BUSY(b) WAITING(w) |
  DONE(d) CANCELLED(c) POSTPONED(p
 
 I think your best bet is to try to isolate which part of your setup is
 interfering. I would start with the most basic setup and systematically
 add more until I hit the problem.
 
 GL
 
 -- 
 Suvayu
 
 Open source is the future. It sets us free.

Re: [O] missing todo's in agenda after emacs/org upgrade

[peter . frings]

Hi Suvayu,

On 18 Aug 2011, at 18:44, suvayu ali wrote:

 It might be helpful to know how your TODO entries are formatted. Maybe
 its not the setup, but how the agenda files are formatted that was
 causing the issue?
 
 In any case, good to hear it is resolved now.

That’s the problem, the issue is *not* resolved… the todo items show up in the 
global todo list, but still not in the daily agenda view.

So I believe the TODO items are formatted `according to spec’ :-).
E.g., “** TODO Fix the daily agenda view”.

I tried the really minimal set-up, as documented on worg [1], and as it is it 
is not showing TODO items in the agenda, either. But when I switch on 'Org 
Agenda Include All Todo’, it does! With the same agenda files (thus I really 
assume they’re properly formatted). So, one step closer… but no cigar.

I’m now comparing the org settings between the two set-ups (as included in the 
org bug report facility), but I don’t notice anything obvious… it’s 
frustrating! But tomorrow is another day, and maybe with a fresh mind… who 
knows?


Thanks!
Peter.

[1] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html

Re: [O] LaTeX export: underscores and the syntax package

[Peter Frings]

Good morning Nicholas,

Your suggested change in org-exp.el did the trick, thanks! I have not observed 
any side-effects, but then again, my files aren’t that complicated either, only 
using rather simple markup and a few floating images, no complex math or so… 

I wouldn’t mind having it changed as a fix, if only to avoid clashes with the 
syntax package, which I use a lot. Furthermore, I personally dislike 
underscores: they’re ugly and harder to type than a hyphen, but since they’re 
generated automatically those arguments don’t stand a chance :-)

Anyway, now I know where to look I can always change it after installing a new 
release of org :-)


Cheers,
Peter.


On 14 May 2011, at 05:50, Nick Dokos wrote:

 On May 12, 2011, at 9:00 AM, peter.fri...@agfa.com wrote:
 
 Good afternoon all,
 
 I spent the best part of the afternoon trying to figure out why an 
 org-generated .tex file wouldn’t compile with my set-up. It turns out that 
 the `syntax’ package messes a bit with the definition of an underscore, 
 making it impossible to use the underscore in a \label.
 
 Unfortunately, the LaTeX exporter uses underscores in its section labels.
 
 
 I'm really replying to Peter here, not to Robert, but I cannot find
 Peter's original mail.
 
 You can change the underscore to e.g. a hyphen and get
 
 ,
 | \subsubsection{Experiment 1}
 | \label{sec-1-1-1}
 `
 
 in the LaTeX output, by changing it in org-exp.el around line 1300 (I
 don't want this to end up on patchwork, so I am trying to camouflage it
 by boxquoting it - I hope that works for hiding the patch from patchwork
 and also gives you enough context to make the change if you so desire):
 
 ,
 | diff --git a/lisp/org-exp.el b/lisp/org-exp.el
 | index cda1f98..ac07c68 100644
 | --- a/lisp/org-exp.el
 | +++ b/lisp/org-exp.el
 | @@ -1298,7 +1298,7 @@ Also find all ID and CUSTOM_ID properties and store 
 them.
 |(org-outline-level
 |   (setq target (org-solidify-link-text
 | (format sec-%s (replace-regexp-in-string
 | - \\. _
 | + \\. -
 |   (org-section-number level)
 |   (setq last-section-target target)
 |   (push (cons target target) target-alist)
 `
 
 What I don't know is if this change will break something, either in
 the LaTeX exporter or in the other exporters. So you might test it
 and report any problems and if there are no problems, maybe you can
 suggest it as a permanent fix. In my limited experimentation, exporting
 a simple org file to latex/pdf, text and html, I did not observe any
 problems, but that does not mean that they don't exist.
 
 Nick

Re: [O] Formal description of Org files

[Peter Frings]

On 15 Apr 2011, at 12:57, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Apr 15, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote:
 
 Am 15.04.2011 09:58, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
 Hi,
 
 I have a question.
 
 At FOSDEM, someone asked me if there was a formal description of the 
 structure of Org files, in some language that would be the input for a 
 parser (or parser generator?) so that Org file could be easily parsed.

snip

 Hi,
 
 maybe Backus-Naur was meant?
 
 That is very well possible.  Sounds like a word I would not have 
 recognized
 So would on Org-mode grammar start like this?

 headline ::= *+ opt-todo-keyword
opt-priority-cookie
title
opt-tags
 
 opt-todo-keyword ::= whitespace todo-keyword | “”
snip

Yes, that seems like extended BN. [1]
Good luck with it! You’ll need it... :-)

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Backus–Naur_Form


Cheers,
Peter.
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c++; // this makes c bigger but returns the old value

Re: [O] Formal description of Org files

[Peter Frings]

On 15 Apr 2011, at 14:58, Christian Egli wrote:

 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:
 
 At FOSDEM, someone asked me if there was a formal description of the
 structure of Org files, in some language that would be the input for a
 parser (or parser generator?) so that Org file could be easily parsed.
 
 Maybe the person was talking about antlr[1], ANother Tool for Language
 Recognition, a language tool that provides a framework for constructing
 recognizers, interpreters, compilers, and translators from grammatical
 descriptions containing actions in a variety of target languages”.
snip

 Sounds like an interesting project.

Wow, if that thing can export syntax diagrams in PNG or PDF I’d be really 
happy. Looks very interesting — albeit serious overkill for what I’d use it :-).

thanks,
Peter.
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Re: [Orgmode] Help with translating the new variable `org-clock-clocktable-language-setup'

[peter . frings]

(nl Bestand N Tijdstip Taak Duur ALLES Totale duur Duur 
bestand)

Note: the translation for Heading is similar to the french translation: it 
means task. A literal translation would be Kop or Hoofding.

Also note that a two-character code may not be enough to express the 
differences between similar languages such as dutch and flemish, UK english and 
US british, French and Canadian frenchs, ... Not that it matters that much...


Cheers,
Peter.
-- 
PROGRAMMEUR 
Onbegrepen persoon die op een onbegrijpelijke manier een onbegrijpelijk 
probleem oplost, dat enkel door een programmeur gecreëerd kon worden.


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[Orgmode] Bug: exporting overwrites existing file [7.4]

[peter . frings]

Good afternoon all,

I may have made a stupid mistake, but this is what happened...

I had a file, cmm.tex, made by hand. I also have an org document,
cmm.org. Can you see it coming? I then wanted to see what the result
would be of exporting that org file as a latex file...  Bye bye original
tex file.

The question is: would it be possible to check for an existing file,
maybe check an org-generated header line or so, and warn/prompt idiots like
me if that tex file was not made by the org exporter?

Thanks,
Dummy User.


Emacs  : GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.5.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0)
 of 2008-11-01 on leopard.local
Package: Org-mode version 7.4


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Re: [Orgmode] Bug: Agenda's `Goto Today' doesn't in Day view [7.4]

[peter . frings]

On 14 Jan 2011, at 13:30, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Jan 2, 2011, at 5:23 PM, David Maus wrote:
 
 At Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:21:56 +0100,
 peter.fri...@agfa.com wrote:
 
 'Goto Today' seems to go to the first day of the week instead of the
 current day when the agenda is in Day view.
 
  Is this still a problem?  I don't seem to be able to reproduce this problem.


Julien Danjou's patch 544 for the 'jumping to a date' problem indeed fixes this 
problem as well.


[1] http://patchwork.newartisans.com/patch/544/

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Re: [Orgmode] Bug: Agenda's `Goto Today' doesn't in Day view [7.4]

[peter . frings]

On 14 Jan 2011, at 13:30, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 
 On Jan 2, 2011, at 5:23 PM, David Maus wrote:
 
 At Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:21:56 +0100,
 peter.fri...@agfa.com wrote:
 
 'Goto Today' seems to go to the first day of the week instead of the
 current day when the agenda is in Day view.
 
 
 Is this still a problem?  I don't seem to be able to reproduce this problem.

Yes. I haven't upgraded to anything newer than reported, so maybe it has 
disappeared in later version

Peter.

 
 It works as expected when in week view.
 
 I can also confirm the previously reported bug that `Jump to date'
 changes the Agenda view -- in my case from Day to Week.
 
 
 Emacs  : GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.5.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0)
 of 2008-11-01 on leopard.local
 Package: Org-mode version 7.4
 
 I can confirm this for
 
 Org-mode version 7.4 (release_7.4.95.ga2ac)
 
 GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.0)
 of 2010-12-11 on raven, modified by Debian
 
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[Orgmode] Bug: Agenda's `Goto Today' doesn't in Day view [7.4]

[peter . frings]

'Goto Today' seems to go to the first day of the week instead of the
current day when the agenda is in Day view.

It works as expected when in week view.

I can also confirm the previously reported bug that `Jump to date' 
changes the Agenda view -- in my case from Day to Week.


Emacs  : GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.5.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0)
 of 2008-11-01 on leopard.local
Package: Org-mode version 7.4


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Re: [Orgmode] org-mode and htmlslidy

[Peter Frings]

On 11 Nov 2010, at 14:17, John Hendy wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.com wrote:
 In looking for the perfect slide show generation from org-mode I have so far 
 checked the following and found that they have serious problems:
 epresenter - Keyboard gets stuck, little control over display.
 org-s5 - No support for pages overflowing, e.g. when showing a long slides I 
 would like to scroll
 What about beamer? To date I haven't found anything I like as much! It just 
 seems to do about everything... even if that means hunting down the 
 occasional obscure code to force it to do my will!
 
 You can combine it with impressive! and do some fantastic things during 
 presentations: http://impressive.sourceforge.net/


I've been using mindmaps as a presentation tool and have had very positive 
reactions from the audience.

- The overview is almost always in sight.
- It's easy to move to the next topic (you need software that can collapse and 
expand subtrees, most of them do)
- You can leave two or more topics open (depends on the size of course)
- It's easy to go back to a previous point.
- You can edit things if needed.
- It's different.

OK, that last point might not be a real benefit, but it is often refreshing to 
the audience, and it grabs the attention pretty well :-)

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Re: [Orgmode] Bastien is going to become the maintainer of Org mode in January

[peter . frings]

On 15 Nov 2010, at 12:51, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 after 7 years of responsibility for Org-mode, it is time for
 me to let go and step down as the maintainer of Org-mode.

What can I say that hasn't been said before? Discovering org-mode was indeed 
one of those Wow! moments, so thank you for bringing it into my life. 

Carsten, enjoy the peace this may bring, and to Bastien, well, may I wish you 
lots of strength ... you'll need it :-)


So long, and thanks for the fish!
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Re: [Orgmode] [WISH] Org Importers

[Peter Frings]

On 28 Oct 2010, at 11:15, Scot Becker wrote:

 Jambunathan,
 
 (2) could be useful but a bit far-fetched at the
 moment.
  
 Really?  Lots of us track changes with git, sometimes by means of one of the 
 Emacs interfaces for it like Magit.  You may be thinking of some 
 interface-level features which aren't available by this method, like the 
 ability to annotate changes in the same place you make them, I suppose.  But 
 working this way has a lot of 'features' that track changes doesn't.

We once thought of having some markup in our LaTeX files to track changes, 
offering annotations. If I recall correctly, we had a command 
\changed{old}{new}{comment}.
You could leave out the new or old text part: newly added  text would be 
\changed{}{bla bla}{this is new text!}, deleted text would be 
\changed{completely wrong}{}{what an idiot}. The command would render the 
old/new text differently (gray, strikethrough, blue, whatever) and add the 
comment as a margin note.

Maybe something like this would be useful/feasible in Org? (not that I have a 
need for this -- we never implemented that command, either).

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Re: [Orgmode] Modify time entry from agenda?

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On 15 Sep 2010, at 01:20, Nathan Neff wrote:

 I think it would be really cool to be able to modify clock-in/clock-out times
 from the agenda.

1+ 

I often fid myself in the same situation. Having a  'roll edit' function would 
really kick you-know-what. I.e., you're clocked into task A, then clock into B, 
only an hour too late. And then, with a single magical C-R-S-M-Tab r keystroke 
you adjust *both* times at the same time: the end time of task A and the start 
time of task B.

In general, it would help me a lot if there would be a way to check clocked 
times: warn/highlight larger gaps and overlaps, and provide some tools to fix 
found 'problems' easily.

Keep on Orging!
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org mode and emacs email

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On 31 Mar 2010, at 21:09, Gary wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 08:53:17PM +0100, Leo wrote:
 
 although many people have been saying it is
 intimidating, it is not.
 
 Oh yes it is :)

I kind of agree. This brings up another question, related to the recent 
discussion about making a 'ready to fly' emacs/org-mode package, suitable for 
the non-emacs-sapiens that are attracted by org-mode.

I can imagine those people would like to send their carefully crafted org 
buffers by email. Do you expect them to set up gnus/vm/wanderlust/... ? I guess 
not.

So, wouldn't it be good if org could send those nicely formatted emails using 
their mail clients? 'M-x org-send-email' and woosh, there it goes!

Org prepares the body, then tells the mail app to prepare an mail with it. On 
the mac with Mail.app that's fairly easy to do with Applescript, and I guess 
other mac clients provide similar access. On Windows or *nix I don't know, but 
I can only assume similar functionality exists.

Maybe we needs some hooks in some places to encode images and such, and a way 
to deal with the communication with the mail client, ... 

Wooosh, it would be nice.

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Re: [Orgmode] possible bug: TAB after elipsis

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On 26 Mar 2010, at 07:32, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Anthony Lander wrote:
 
 If the cursor is after the elipsis on a folded entry like this:
 
   Some entry...|
 
 pressing TAB doesn't expand the entry, or in fact, do anything useful at 
 all. Is it possible to get it to expand the entry, or am I missing something?
 
 Cursor after the dots means the cursor is no longer in the headline,
 in fact it is no longer in the entry at all.

Well, that may be technically correct, but from a UI point of view it isn't. 
We're still one the same (head)_line_, no?

Not that I find this an important issue to fix, mind you :-)

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Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: hide target brackets

[Peter Frings]

On 18 Mar 2010, at 17:36, Scott Otterson wrote:

 So, here's my feature request:  Hide the target angle brackets in the same 
 way that square brackets are hidden for hyperlinks.

1+

The hidden angle brackets could be exposed by hitting delete when at the 
 right side of the target (similar to how hidden hyperlink text is exposed 
 now).

And by using the literal/descriptive links menu/command.

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Re: [Orgmode] Proposed key binding changes: archiving and attachments

[Peter Frings]

On 30 Oct 2009, at 10:54, Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs wrote:


Carsten Dominik schrieb:

The main reason is that I think there should be a single default key
for archiving, and that the user sets a variable to decide what the
default archiving method should be.  I would like this key to be `C- 
c C-a' which

is why the org-attach key would have to move as well.


[snip]


In the agenda
aarchive with org-archive-default-command


If that hit me by surprise there would be some cussing involved, I
guess. What's the planned default for org-archive-default-command? If
I get a fair warning I'd set it to org-toggle-archive-tag.


I kind of agree that one-letter commands should be `safe': they should  
not do anything that cannot be easily undone; it's just too easy to  
hit them by accident. If it cannot be undone, I prefer the C-x ... key  
sequence, or have the `a' prompt for something.


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Re: [Orgmode] Documentation wishlist items

[Peter Frings]

On 16 Sep 2009, at 14:17, Jean-Marie Gaillourdet wrote:

Another interesting source for inspiration might be the tutorials of  
the TikZ/PGF Manual. http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pgf/base/doc/generic/pgf/pgfmanual.pdf 
 page 20 till 54


I agree, the tikz manual is really good.

Another well done piece of documentation (and a superb program as  
well) is that of lilypond: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/index


Some people have spent a *lot* of their time on that. Chapeau!


I agree that org-mode could use gentler documentation, but I think  
that is by itself a tremendous chore. And then to keep up with all the  
improvements that Carsten et all produce at an almost daily rate...


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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

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On 08 Sep 2009, at 16:24, Richard Moreland wrote:

I've been working with Carsten on a free iPhone app for Org.  We are  
still working out some of the details, but so far we have it running  
on the phone in a fairly usable state.  It needs some polish, but it  
is very nice to see my Org data easily accessible on a mobile device  
with offline access.  To be clear, we aren't trying to run Emacs on  
the device.  The goal is to view Org files and agendas as well as  
capture new notes.


Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:  
http://ncogni.to/mobileorg-demo1.mov

Once we feel the basics are worked out, we will solicit a request  
for beta testers and feedback, but for now you'll have to be  
satisfied with the demo video :)



Wow indeed. Some things immediately came up when viewing the movie; I  
hope you don't mind me posting them so soon.


I imagine the app does not require a live connection to the server. In  
order to work offline, I think that the app must

- clearly show the time of downloading each document,
- be able to capture and store multiple notes when offline and forward  
them when online. A way of reviewing the stored notes, possibly edit  
or remove them would be a bonus.


I could imagine that captured but not yet forwarded notes appear in  
the 'capture.org' document entry (on the App), marked as not-forwarded  
and being editable and removable. After syncing, these notes become  
part of the real capture.org document and thus read-only, just like  
the rest.



Oh well, you probably thought of all that, so I'll just shut up now...

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time

[Peter Frings]

On 27 Aug 2009, at 06:47, Charles Philip Chan wrote:


Carsten Dominik domi...@uva.nl writes:


[snip]

5. The cursor keys left and right are remapped to a
  function that does nothing, except showing a message
  that you should now use f/b to move through time.


Looks good, but like others have said, I prefer the left and right
keys to move the cursor.


(1+ vote)

Marking and copying text from the agenda is something that I do often.  
Or activating a link. So navigating in the agenda's text has its  
merits. Although I'll probably be blamed for not being a true emacs- 
devotee, but I do use the arrow keys for that...


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Latest Org and Carbon Emacs

[Peter Frings]

On 09 Jul 2009, at 23:32, Matthew Lundin wrote:


Karl Maihofer ignora...@gmx.de writes:


Until now I used Org with Debian GNU/Linux. Today I bought a MacBook
Pro 13 and I spent the evening making my first steps with MacOS. I
installed the Carbon Emacs package and configured Emacs to use the
latest Org-Version that I copied to ~/elisp/org-mode/.


If I remember correctly. the old org lisp files are located in
/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/textmodes.

I found it easiest to install the new org files directly to the
Emacs.app directory.



I've seen this approach mentioned several times, but I think it makes  
things more complicated then they should be. By keeping the app and  
the libs in separate places, the two can be updated independently.  
Emacs provides ample ways of supporting this style -- actually, I  
guess it was meant to work that way, until the bundles came along...


Of course, it's very convenient when you download Carbon Emacs (or  
others) that everything is in place, but since when do Linuxers care  
about convenience? :-)


Cheers,
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Re: [Orgmode] Release 6.28

[peter . frings]

On 26 Jun 2009, at 10:03, Carsten Dominik wrote:


I have changed the key bindings now:


Your response time continues to amaze me! And your willingness to  
accept requests... Chapeau!


[shortcuts snipped]


This does feel pretty consistent to me and breaks as
little habits and tutorials as possible.


Great, thanks a lot!

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Re: [Orgmode] Release 6.28

[Peter Frings]

On 25 Jun 2009, at 15:19, Bastien wrote:


Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:
Bulk action

===

[snip]

I'm a bit disoriented with the new keybinding for `s' -- I got used
to it the same way I'm used to `C-x C-s'.


Same here. It'll take some time to adopt. But...


Also, I think it would be nice to make this bulk action feature more
consistent with bulk action mechanisms from other packages like dired,
buff-menu.el or bookmark-mode.el.


I also support this request.


Here is how the keys are mapped on various modes:

| key | dired   bookmark-mode  buff-menu | Org   |
|-++---|

[snip]

| D   | delete marked  | include diary |

[snip]

I propose to use [dmuUx] the same way in Org.  We could move the  
daily,

weekly, monthly view to respectively D,W,M.


Mapping the D to 'daily view' would not make it the same as in dired.

Of course, if the perception of the Agenda's content and behavior is  
sufficiently different from that of dired, the keybindings do not have  
to be the same. Maybe it's worth looking at how other packages (like  
gnus and friends) are treating their summaries?



Having said all that, I'll take whatever bindings org-mode ships with;  
you can always change them :-)


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Re: [Orgmode] Release 6.28

[peter . frings]

On 25 Jun 2009, at 16:24, Carsten Dominik wrote:



On Jun 25, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Bastien wrote:


Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:


Bulk action





With `d' and `w' in place, `m' and `y' are consistent, logical.   
However, I don't believe anyone uses monthly views, I am sure

that no-one uses yearly views, right?  So I will negotiate over
`m', i someone can propose a viable alternative that makes sense.


With 'd' and 'w' in place, I would keep the 'm', even if it is less  
used (especially for less used interactions, consistency is a must).




I strongly hesitate to use x for action, because it has
been exit for so many years, and because I don't want
anyone to execute this command by accident


Through, but for many new [org-mode] users it wont be a problem.  
AFAIK, `x' in dired requires a confirmation, so you've got an escape  
hatch. The `x' could be remapped to `Q' (I believe gnus makes the same  
distinction between q and Q).


A possible way out it that we can switch between two sets of  
keybindings, a 'compatibility' one and a 'dired'-like one. Default  
would be the compatibility set.



Sometimes one spends much more time thinking about such things than  
actually implementing stuff... :-(  But in the end, it is usually  
worth it.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Sourceforge community award

[Peter Frings]

On 12 Jun 2009, at 00:59, Memnon Anon wrote:


Hi!

Leo sdl@gmail.com writes:


On 2009-06-11 21:49 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:

I am attaching the picture to this email, you can also retrieve it
from

http://orgmode.org/Org-mode-scc.png


That screen shot looks very beautiful. There's one minor glitch. The
font is non anti-alias.


I agree, the screenshot is nice and shows some of the great features  
of

orgmode. I just want to add another think for consideration:

Pictures often give people their first impression of a software, as
stupid as it is. What do you all think of the used colors?


I'm afraid I have to agree... The first impression I had was Auw...  
Too many heavy colors, big non-aliased text... It lacks a certain  
style, which is a pity because org-mode itself has plenty of it.


I'm also not sure the unicorn should be pasted into the window like  
that, as if it is part of the content.


Sorry I can't be more constructive at this time :-(

Cheers, and all the luck!
Peter.



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Sourceforge community award

[Peter Frings]

On 12 Jun 2009, at 05:58, Carsten Dominik wrote:


On Jun 12, 2009, at 12:59 AM, Memnon Anon wrote:


Leo sdl@gmail.com writes:


On 2009-06-11 21:49 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:

I am attaching the picture to this email, you can also retrieve it
from

http://orgmode.org/Org-mode-scc.png


That screen shot looks very beautiful. There's one minor glitch. The
font is non anti-alias.


Pictures often give people their first impression of a software, as
stupid as it is. What do you all think of the used colors?


I do to some extend agree with you.  The buffer picture does
look very colored and a bit unrealistic.  A real buffer would
look less colored because the distribution between text and
functional elements would be different.  These lines are so short
to make them readable at all in a screenshot.


Will readable lines make the case? It all boils down to the question  
you pose: what's its function?.



I actually do use these colors currently and find them quite
workable.


I think there's a difference between what's workable and what's  
`attractive at first sight'. These days everything must be web20,  
soft, polished, nice graphics, ...  Too attract people, it must not be  
workable, but pretty. I agree with the poster about the 90s look.


If the function of the screenshot/logo is to attract people and make  
them click through, it must be appealing AND pick their interest. The  
one screenshot on worg with the R plots has some of those qualities,  
but I think it's too dark and contains too much info (window is too  
big for a scaled-down screenshot).


The alternative --only the logo-- is not bad, but I would add a  
slogan, such as Your life in plain text; short and bold. The logo by  
itself is not well-known and might not invoke this Hey, what would  
that be? Let me see! reaction.


Hmmm, are there any marketeers on this list?

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[Orgmode] mail delivery problems...

[peter . frings]

Hi Bastien,

for some odd reasons my posts to emacs-orgmode@gnu.org all fail...


This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es)  
failed:


 emacs-orgmode@gnu.org


(message too big? nope, smaller ones fail as well...)

So I guess our conversation didn't make it, and neither did the  
screenshots. Is it worth reposting them? If so, could you forward them?


Thanks,
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[Orgmode] small problem in agenda time line?

[Peter Frings]

Good day, org-ers

I have seen a *small* problem in the Agenda's log mode.

Org-mode version 6.26d
GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.5.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of  
2008-11-01



I have this in time-sheets.org:


* Project AI
** Enhancement PT 2009-04-30 Thu 10:00-11:00 +1w
   CLOCK: [2009-05-14 Thu 09:55]--[2009-05-14 Thu 10:45] =  0:50


But, the Agenda shows this:

Day-agenda (W20):
Thursday   14 May 2009
   9:00.. 
  planning:9:12- 9:55 Clocked:   (0:43) BUSY Notifications
  time-sheet: 10:00-11:00 Clocked:   (0:50) Enhancement PT
  time-sheet: 10:00-11:00 Enhancement PT
  10:00.. 
  11:00.. 


The agenda's clocktable shows the proper time:

Day-agenda (W20):
...
| time-sheet.org | 2 | time-sheet.org | Enhancement PT 2009-04-30 Thu  
10:00-11:00 +1w |  | 0:50 |  |

...


I would expect that the actual log entry shows the clocked time, not  
the repeating one.



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Footnotes and org-export, revisited

[Peter Frings]

On Dec 17, 2008, at 6:18 PM, Sivaram Neelakantan wrote:


Paul R paul.r...@gmail.com writes:


* Usage 1, anonymous footnotes

[snip]


And then we will have that one feature request to cross reference a
previous footnote!  :-)  In the above case, how would a person go
about asking someone to refer to an earlier footnote?


* Usage 2, keyword named footnotes

[snip]



Unless I've got it wrong, wouldn't it be better to do something like

[fn:kenpo { Kenpo is the name of several martial arts}]
(keep the keyword and definition in one place?)

And all future references go as 'see [fn:kenpo] to understand the
meaning'.


Maybe re-use the same concepts of urls? And combine anonymous and  
labeled footnotes at once? And references?


labeled: [[fn:label][text]]
anonymous: [[fn:]][text]]
reference: [[fn:label]]

(In the reference form, the reference could become a clickable link.)

Example 1:
This is the body of the text.[[fn:xyz][And this is the text of the  
footnote]] It indeed is a silly piece of text, but what would you  
expect?[[fn:abc][It's showing off references to previous footnotes, as  
well.[fn:xyz]]]


Example 2:
You can also use the references to put the footnote text out of the  
body text[[fn:xyzzy]].


[[fn:xyzzy][This footnote illustrates the out-of-the-body principle.]]


Maybe too many brackets?

Cheers,
Peter.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Footnotes and org-export, revisited

[Peter Frings]

Sorry, let a typo slip in:

On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:34 AM, peter.fri...@agfa.com wrote:

[snip]


labeled: [[fn:label][text]]
anonymous: [[fn:]][text]]
reference: [[fn:label]]


Must of course be:

anonymous: [[fn:][text]]

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Re: [Orgmode] Language question

[Peter Frings]

On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:13, Womick, Don wrote:


's always indicates possession, never plurality.

I don't think there's a hard-and-fast choice between IDs and ids,
but IDs looks better to me, since it's clear that you're using an
abbreviation. But if you write id (singular), be consistent and  
write

ids (plural).


I'm not a native English speaker, but since the Chicago Manual of  
Style is within reach...


About the plural:
quote
* Letters, nouns coinages, numbers: So far as it can be done without  
confusion, single or multiple letters used as words, hyphenated  
coinages used as nouns, and numbers (wether spelled out or in figures)  
firm the plural by adding s alone:


the three Rs
YMCAs
...

* Abbreviations with periods, lowercase letters used as nouns, and  
capital letters that would be confusing if /s/ alone were added form  
the plural with an apostrohpe and an s:


Ph.D's
x's and y's
SOS's
...
/quote

About the capitalization:
I can't find it right now (might have read it somewhere else), but I  
think the rule is rather simple:


Acronyms should be written in uppercase when they are spelled out in  
speech, e.g. ID (Ey-Dee). When they're being used as words, they're  
written in lowercase, e.g., 'radar'.



Combining the two, I think it's IDs.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Does this happen to you? Aquamacs messes with you! (but I still like my Mac)

[Peter Frings]

On 07 Nov 2008, at 16:33, Peter Jones wrote:


Ben Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I normally use Aquamacs.  It's very pretty, and uses the mouse  
without

having to start an X server.


[snip]

Ben, Aquamacs isn't the only option for Emacs on Mac OS X, it's  
actually

the worst option for Emacs on Mac OS X, IMHO.


I second that. I've been using Carbon Emacs 22.2.50.1 and its  
predecessors for years now, trying Aquamacs now and then, but never  
felt the urge to switch. Do check it out.


The 'official' stable release is on http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/emacs-e.html 
 -- and I just noticed he's got the 22.3 release available :-)


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[Orgmode] bug in LaTeX exporter (org-mode 6.07)

[peter . frings]

Hi all,

It seems that the LaTeX exporter doe not escape the ampersand  
character and braces when inside a table.



Exporting this:
=== org-mode snippet 
* Example
This is an ampersand: , and these are curly braces {}.

| Below is an ampersand | and the same curly braces |
|  | { and }   |
=

Results in:
 Exported LaTeX =

% Created 2008-10-21 Tue 16:31
\documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{article}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage{hyperref}


\title{* Example}
\author{Peter Frings}
\date{21 October 2008}

\begin{document}

\maketitle

\setcounter{tocdepth}{3}
\tableofcontents

This is an ampersand: \, and these are curly braces \{\}.

\begin{tabular}{ll}
 Below is an ampersandand the same curly braces  \\
 { and }\\
\end{tabular}


\end{document}
=


Unrelated: what trick/mode/command do you guys use to make those nice  
snippets like:

,---[xxx]
| blah
| blah
`---

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Re: [Orgmode] How to get a clock table without the file level?

[Peter Frings]

On 07 Sep 2008, at 08:30, Carsten Dominik wrote:


On Sep 5, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Peter Frings wrote:

Is it possible to build a clocktable with the agenda as scope, but  
summing up all times per headline level, and not per file. Some  
files have the same level 1 entries, and these should be summed up.


Hi Peter,

this is indeed neither currently possible, nor easily implemented.

One of he basic concepts of Org-mode is that you keep things  
together that belong together.  Why do you have related things in  
two separate files?  Would it not be easier and better to reorganize  
this basic structure?


Yes, I've been thinking about that as well. Right now, it's only 1 or  
two rows I need to sum up manually, and I can still handle that... so  
this is absolutely not a serious issue.


The reason I have these tasks spread across several agenda files is  
the following. I have one larger file in which I keep the planning and  
logging for a large project. In another file I keep a log of the more  
`interrupt-driven' but often recurring tasks (e.g. maintaining a wiki,  
fixing bugs, etc.).


However, we need to fill in time sheets in a SAP web application -- 
note that I use the term 'application' very loosely here!--, and many  
of the activities in both files are to be recorded under the same  
category. Unfortunately, I'm never sure which SAP category to use for  
some taks, so I needed a way to remember them. Therefore, I made these  
categories as level-1 topics, and organized my tasks to my liking as  
sub-topics. So I can now log time for the level-2 topic 'filling in  
time sheets', and it will show up under the proper SAP category in the  
clock table.


Now, all activity in the planning file needs to be reported as 'REQD  
G50101'; in the other file there's also a whole set of tasks that fall  
under that same category. Therefore, I have 'REQD G50101' as a level-1  
topic in both files, and structure the rest below it.


I know it is a kludge, but it works relatively well for me.

I know I can simply put the project planning in the same file as the  
rest, but both files are relatively large, and it makes navigation a  
bit harder than I want. Also, keeping these things in two files sounds  
very logical to me :-)


As I said, it's not a big deal; I'm very happy with org-mode and I  
intent to keep it that way!


Thanks,
Peter.



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[Orgmode] getting rid of file level in clocktable?

[peter . frings]

Hi all,

I have the following clocktable:

#+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 4  :scope agenda :block thisweek :step  
week


Weekly report starting on: 2008-08-04 Mon
| File   | L |  
Headline |Time |
|   |  |
|+--- 
+--+-+--- 
+---+--|
||   | *Total  
time* | *35:36* |   |
|  |
|+--- 
+--+-+--- 
+---+--|
| planning.org   |   | *File  
time*  | *19:41* |   |
|  |
| planning.org   | 1 | xx yy: REQD
(G1005001) |   19:41 |   |   |  |
| planning.org   | 2 | xx  
zz| | 19:41  
|   |  |

...
|+--- 
+--+-+--- 
+---+--|
| notes.org  |   | *File  
time*  |  *0:15* |   |
|  |
| notes.org  | 1 |  
Todo |0:15 |
|   |  |
| notes.org  | 2 | verify which  
colors  | |  0:15 |   |  |

...
|+--- 
+--+-+--- 
+---+--|
| time-sheet.org |   | *File  
time*  | *15:40* |   |
|  |
| time-sheet.org | 1 | xx yy: REQD  
(G1005001)   |9:26 |   |   |  |
| time-sheet.org | 2 | xx  
zz|   | |  4:17  
|   |  |

...
#+END:

However, I would rather omit the file level, and thus have 1) no  
'File' column nor *File Time* rows, and 2) group the same entries  
across different files in the same summary entry.


I could of course reorganize the setup and put everything in a single  
file, but this system now works reasonably well for me. I'd rather not  
change it too much.


I have searched the documentation and googled hard, but found no  
[obvious] solution. And my elisp skills are nearly non-existant... Is  
there any kind and smart soul that knows how to tackle this?


Thanks,
Peter.



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[Orgmode] Providing clock context when stopping the clock (enhancement request)

[Peter Frings]

Hi all,

summary: provide the context of the running clock in the note buffer  
when clocking out.



I might not be doing well in the 'getting organized' department,  
because I often forget what I was doing... :-)  So I have a little  
enhancement request that would make my life a little easier...


Here's the situation: I have org-log-note-clock-out set so I can enter  
a little note about what it was I was doing. Now, I often get  
interrupts while banging away at the keyboard (not necessarily in  
emacs). Often, I don't get the time (or I simply forget) to switch to  
emacs, clock out and describe what I was doing. Especially not when  
someone is standing next to me jumping up and down in a very stressful  
manner.


So, when I return to my desk, maybe a hour later, I need to enter the  
interrupt in my time sheets. So I enter a brief note under the right  
heading in my time sheet, clock in, and org-mode of course first wants  
me first to clock out. It prompts me for what I was doing... and I  
don't know anymore (it's not uncommon to work on several different  
things during a single day, interrupting one interrupt for another --  
and sometimes getting a stack overflow...). So there I am, staring at  
the clock-out note buffer, trying to remember what the heck I was  
doing before I got interrupted. Now, org-mode helpfully mentions the  
time on which the active clock was started, which is nice, but not  
enough. It would be *really* helpful when it would show the heading  
(maybe context) of the running clock, right there, in the note buffer,  
staring at my face.[1]


I know one can first jump to the active clock, read it, and then  
proceed to clock out/in. But you wouldn't need to do all that when the  
note buffer shows the context, would you? It sure would help me.


Does this make sense?

Thanks,
Peter -- who is still learning org-mode, and appreciating it a lot!


BTW: there's a small typo in the description of org-log-note-clock-out:
Non-nil means, recored a note when ...
s/recored/record/


[1] slightly off-topic: this is similar to what Don Norman (in The  
Psychology of Everyday Things) refers as 'knowledge in the world'  
versus 'knowledge in the brain'. The more info and context a system  
provides, the less the user has to remember, and the easier it is for  
him to use the system.



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: how to remove ... from the end of a heading

[Peter Frings]

On 27 Jul 2008, at 05:54, Cezar Halmagean wrote:


Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi Cezar

are you sure you want to get rid of this indication
that a potentially large amount of text is hidden below this
line and will be killed silently when you press `C-k'?

  (setq org-ellipsis  )


Yes, I looks bad... maybe if there was a different indication then it
would make sense but I only have a few lines of text for each task
anyways so I don't really need it.


I use a pencil character (unicode 270E - ✎). That yields something  
like this:


inline: pastedGraphic.png



Cheers,
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Re: [Orgmode] Mac OS, emacs-org/remember

[peter . frings]

On 23 Jul 2008, at 01:40, Carsten Dominik wrote:

- How to get mail.app mail references (and other apps) into emacs  
buffer

 (the copy url in the mail.app works - I would want to see the
 subject/author of the message, than a cryptic url. I know, I can
 edit that what I want, but I would rather have this automatic)


Org-mode comes with org-mac-message.el.  You need to load this file,  
for example by
configuring the variable org-modules.  With that loaded, Emacs can  
follow message links.  To create such a link from an email, define a  
remember template like this:


(Emailtask ?e * TODO %?\n  %(org-mac-message-get-link) ~/org/ 
gtd.org Tasks nil)



The %(org-mac-message-get-link) will result in a nice link showing  
the message subject and linking to the message.


Great. Another highly appreciated way of adding email links to an org- 
file would be by dragging a particular mail from Mail.app onto emacs.  
This does work when dropping e.g. files and URLs (might by courtesy of  
mac-win.el ?). Anyone have an idea of how to enable this for mails as  
well?


[GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (i386-apple-darwin8.11.1, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of  
2008-04-02 on seijiz.local]



Learning org-mode and loving it more and more!

Cheers,
Peter.



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