Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-05-29 Thread Eric Schulte
François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:

 Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:

 Oh, nice!  I added a pointer in Worg:
 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tools/index.html

 At the end of that page, there is: See the page Org Blogs and Wikis.,
 with Org Blogs and Wikis clickable.  However, the pointer resolves to
 file:///home/emacs/install/git/worg/org-blog-wiki.html.  Some http://;
 was likely intended there?

 François


I just pushed up a fix for this link, and also added mention of
org-ehtml to the Org-mode blog/wiki page.

Cheers,

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte



Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-05-27 Thread François Pinard
Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:

 Oh, nice!  I added a pointer in Worg:
 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tools/index.html

At the end of that page, there is: See the page Org Blogs and Wikis.,
with Org Blogs and Wikis clickable.  However, the pointer resolves to
file:///home/emacs/install/git/worg/org-blog-wiki.html.  Some http://;
was likely intended there?

François



Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-04-10 Thread 'Mash (Thomas Herbert)
On 2013-04-01 13:12+0200, David Engster wrote:
 I'd like to use Org as a static site generator. I know quite a few
 people use Org to manage their sites, so I'd like to know what's already
 available and what I'd need to add to make this working properly.

 I know of course how to export a bunch of Org files to HTML through the
 publishing features. However, that's not really cutting it, I'm afraid.

 Thing of a typical HTML5 template having a header, nav, footer,
 and article. I'd like Org to include the different exported files into
 the article section, and the rest to remain the same. The nav would
 contain a global navigation menu, also highlighting the current active
 section (though CSS, no JS please).

 Has anybode done something like this?

 -David


I rolled my own called Orgile.

http://toshine.org/etc/orgile-emacs-org-mode-file-html-parser-php-publishing-tool/

I would love someone to help me develop classOrgile.php the org-mode
file to HTML parser can be used as a stand-alone PHP class in what
ever tool you want.

I am not much of a developer so this is a garden-shed effort, but as
you can see with http://toshine.org it turned out pretty clean, and
allows me to stay in Emacs and just push up the .org file via Git and
Orgile does the rest.

Note: I have tweaked my current Orgile code on my current site versus
the public version on github, so may need to compare the two and
republish to github.

'Mash



Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-04-10 Thread Bastien
'Mash (Thomas Herbert) mash...@toshine.net writes:

 I rolled my own called Orgile.

 http://toshine.org/etc/orgile-emacs-org-mode-file-html-parser-php-publishing-tool/

Oh, nice!  I added a pointer in Worg:
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tools/index.html

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-04-06 Thread Ian Barton
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 11:02:56AM -0500, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
 Ian Barton writes:

  On 01/04/13 13:08, Vincent Beffara wrote:
 
  Yes, I mean, I know which html you need for that, simply within o-blog you 
  need to manage between relative paths, absolute paths, canonical paths and 
  so on in the template, to match the right section,  - mainly it should be 
  a matter of let-ing the right variable to the right value at the right 
  point in the template and catching it when generating the toc, but I never 
  took the time to get it right ...
  I've also just found this, which uses Org only as a markup tool and
  Jekyll to generate the site:
 
  http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-jekyll.html
  I had a look at the too, but it felt just a little bit too convoluted 
  compared to managing everything from Org. Besides, it seems to lose 
  fontification of code snippets and the like?
 
  /v
 
  As the original author of that page, I agree that using Jekyll is
  convoluted, but it gives you much more control. However I now use
  Pelican: https://pelican.readthedocs.org/en/3.1.1/
 
  There are a few reasons for this. Pelican is written in Python, which I
  find easier to hack on. It is more flexible than Jekyll, which I found
  hard to get to work the way I wanted with categories and tags.
 
  I wrote a yaml importer for Pelican so I could use my old jekyll posts.
  However, Pelican understands Markdown, which I think the new exporter
  supports.
 
  So my work flow now is Emacs- export as html - run Jekyll
 
  Ian.

 Heya Ian,

 I've been planning to switch my blog over to pelican.  It's cool to hear
 you say this.

 Is there any special elisp you use for the export, including converting
 things like the title, etc?

 Thanks!
  - Chris


Hi Chris,

No, nothing special. I just use org's standard publish functions. However, I 
publish only the body part of the html and place the yaml tags in the org file. 
A typical org file for a blog post would look like:


#+STARTUP: showall indent
#+STARTUP: hidestars
#+OPTIONS: H:2 num:nil tags:nil toc:nil timestamps:nil
#+BEGIN_HTML
---
title: My Fire Steel Crumbles to Dust.
date: 2013-02-17
tags: [gear]
category: blog

---
#+END_HTML

After my walk over Moel Famau and Moel Arthur I was looking forward
to making a hot drink. My brew kit lives permanently in the boot of



org pubish then creates a file with a yaml header and html body text. Then I 
just run Pelican to publish the post. I have written a Pelican yaml reader 
which converts the yaml files to allow Pelican to process them. I'll document 
the whole process over the next couple of days and put it on Worg. I keep 
meaning to contribute my yaml reader back to Pelican, but it's quite specific 
to publishing org-mode files and not really a general purpose yaml importer.


--

Best wishes,

Ian.



Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-04-06 Thread Christopher Allan Webber
Cool, thanks for that info!

Ian Barton writes:

 On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 11:02:56AM -0500, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
 Ian Barton writes:

  On 01/04/13 13:08, Vincent Beffara wrote:
 
  Yes, I mean, I know which html you need for that, simply within o-blog 
  you need to manage between relative paths, absolute paths, canonical 
  paths and so on in the template, to match the right section,  - mainly it 
  should be a matter of let-ing the right variable to the right value at 
  the right point in the template and catching it when generating the toc, 
  but I never took the time to get it right ...
  I've also just found this, which uses Org only as a markup tool and
  Jekyll to generate the site:
 
  http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-jekyll.html
  I had a look at the too, but it felt just a little bit too convoluted 
  compared to managing everything from Org. Besides, it seems to lose 
  fontification of code snippets and the like?
 
  /v
 
  As the original author of that page, I agree that using Jekyll is
  convoluted, but it gives you much more control. However I now use
  Pelican: https://pelican.readthedocs.org/en/3.1.1/
 
  There are a few reasons for this. Pelican is written in Python, which I
  find easier to hack on. It is more flexible than Jekyll, which I found
  hard to get to work the way I wanted with categories and tags.
 
  I wrote a yaml importer for Pelican so I could use my old jekyll posts.
  However, Pelican understands Markdown, which I think the new exporter
  supports.
 
  So my work flow now is Emacs- export as html - run Jekyll
 
  Ian.

 Heya Ian,

 I've been planning to switch my blog over to pelican.  It's cool to hear
 you say this.

 Is there any special elisp you use for the export, including converting
 things like the title, etc?

 Thanks!
  - Chris


 Hi Chris,

 No, nothing special. I just use org's standard publish functions. However, I 
 publish only the body part of the html and place the yaml tags in the org 
 file. A typical org file for a blog post would look like:


 #+STARTUP: showall indent
 #+STARTUP: hidestars
 #+OPTIONS: H:2 num:nil tags:nil toc:nil timestamps:nil
 #+BEGIN_HTML
 ---
 title: My Fire Steel Crumbles to Dust.
 date: 2013-02-17
 tags: [gear]
 category: blog

 ---
 #+END_HTML

 After my walk over Moel Famau and Moel Arthur I was looking forward
 to making a hot drink. My brew kit lives permanently in the boot of



 org pubish then creates a file with a yaml header and html body text. Then I 
 just run Pelican to publish the post. I have written a Pelican yaml reader 
 which converts the yaml files to allow Pelican to process them. I'll document 
 the whole process over the next couple of days and put it on Worg. I keep 
 meaning to contribute my yaml reader back to Pelican, but it's quite specific 
 to publishing org-mode files and not really a general purpose yaml importer.


 --

 Best wishes,

 Ian.




Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-04-06 Thread Ian Barton

On 06/04/13 16:15, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:

Cool, thanks for that info!

Ian Barton writes:


On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 11:02:56AM -0500, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:

Ian Barton writes:


On 01/04/13 13:08, Vincent Beffara wrote:


Yes, I mean, I know which html you need for that, simply within o-blog you need 
to manage between relative paths, absolute paths, canonical paths and so on in 
the template, to match the right section,  - mainly it should be a matter of 
let-ing the right variable to the right value at the right point in the 
template and catching it when generating the toc, but I never took the time to 
get it right ...

I've also just found this, which uses Org only as a markup tool and
Jekyll to generate the site:

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-jekyll.html

I had a look at the too, but it felt just a little bit too convoluted compared 
to managing everything from Org. Besides, it seems to lose fontification of 
code snippets and the like?

/v


As the original author of that page, I agree that using Jekyll is
convoluted, but it gives you much more control. However I now use
Pelican: https://pelican.readthedocs.org/en/3.1.1/

There are a few reasons for this. Pelican is written in Python, which I
find easier to hack on. It is more flexible than Jekyll, which I found
hard to get to work the way I wanted with categories and tags.

I wrote a yaml importer for Pelican so I could use my old jekyll posts.
However, Pelican understands Markdown, which I think the new exporter
supports.

So my work flow now is Emacs- export as html - run Jekyll

Ian.


Heya Ian,

I've been planning to switch my blog over to pelican.  It's cool to hear
you say this.

Is there any special elisp you use for the export, including converting
things like the title, etc?

Thanks!
  - Chris



Hi Chris,

No, nothing special. I just use org's standard publish functions. However, I 
publish only the body part of the html and place the yaml tags in the org file. 
A typical org file for a blog post would look like:


#+STARTUP: showall indent
#+STARTUP: hidestars
#+OPTIONS: H:2 num:nil tags:nil toc:nil timestamps:nil
#+BEGIN_HTML
---
title: My Fire Steel Crumbles to Dust.
date: 2013-02-17
tags: [gear]
category: blog

---
#+END_HTML

After my walk over Moel Famau and Moel Arthur I was looking forward
to making a hot drink. My brew kit lives permanently in the boot of



org pubish then creates a file with a yaml header and html body text. Then I 
just run Pelican to publish the post. I have written a Pelican yaml reader 
which converts the yaml files to allow Pelican to process them. I'll document 
the whole process over the next couple of days and put it on Worg. I keep 
meaning to contribute my yaml reader back to Pelican, but it's quite specific 
to publishing org-mode files and not really a general purpose yaml importer.


--



I have just written a short post at: 
http://www.ian-barton.com/posts/2013/Apr/06/blogging-with-emacs-org-mode-and-pelican/ 
which describes how I use org-mode and Pelican.


I'll write a more comprehensive explanation for Worg.

Ian.




Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-04-05 Thread Christopher Allan Webber
Ian Barton writes:

 On 01/04/13 13:08, Vincent Beffara wrote:

 Yes, I mean, I know which html you need for that, simply within o-blog you 
 need to manage between relative paths, absolute paths, canonical paths and 
 so on in the template, to match the right section,  - mainly it should be a 
 matter of let-ing the right variable to the right value at the right point 
 in the template and catching it when generating the toc, but I never took 
 the time to get it right ...
 I've also just found this, which uses Org only as a markup tool and
 Jekyll to generate the site:

 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-jekyll.html
 I had a look at the too, but it felt just a little bit too convoluted 
 compared to managing everything from Org. Besides, it seems to lose 
 fontification of code snippets and the like?

 /v

 As the original author of that page, I agree that using Jekyll is 
 convoluted, but it gives you much more control. However I now use 
 Pelican: https://pelican.readthedocs.org/en/3.1.1/

 There are a few reasons for this. Pelican is written in Python, which I 
 find easier to hack on. It is more flexible than Jekyll, which I found 
 hard to get to work the way I wanted with categories and tags.

 I wrote a yaml importer for Pelican so I could use my old jekyll posts. 
 However, Pelican understands Markdown, which I think the new exporter 
 supports.

 So my work flow now is Emacs- export as html - run Jekyll

 Ian.

Heya Ian,

I've been planning to switch my blog over to pelican.  It's cool to hear
you say this.

Is there any special elisp you use for the export, including converting
things like the title, etc?

Thanks!
 - Chris



[O] Org as a static site generator

2013-04-01 Thread David Engster
I'd like to use Org as a static site generator. I know quite a few
people use Org to manage their sites, so I'd like to know what's already
available and what I'd need to add to make this working properly.

I know of course how to export a bunch of Org files to HTML through the
publishing features. However, that's not really cutting it, I'm afraid.

Thing of a typical HTML5 template having a header, nav, footer,
and article. I'd like Org to include the different exported files into
the article section, and the rest to remain the same. The nav would
contain a global navigation menu, also highlighting the current active
section (though CSS, no JS please).

Has anybode done something like this?

-David



Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-04-01 Thread Vincent Beffara
Hi,

I am using o-blog for that, it is pretty great. One Org file for everything, 
and it actually splits it into one page per marked headline. You can use one of 
the headlines as a template for the nav section of the page, shared across all 
pages. (As you can tell from the name, it is intended as a blogging tool, but 
you don't have to use it that way ...)

The default template might not be to your taste (I don't like it at all, 
personally, so I made my own essentially from scratch) but you can customize it 
easily enough. And it might actually be close to what you are looking for.

Page: http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/vincent.beffara/
Source: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kdu6myi2ov7y78e/3Ljz5Eipq9
 Thing of a typical HTML5 template having a header, nav, footer,
 and article. I'd like Org to include the different exported files into
 the article section, and the rest to remain the same. The nav would
 contain a global navigation menu, also highlighting the current active
 section (though CSS, no JS please).

I never quite managed to do that ... but it should definitely be doable.

/v



Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-04-01 Thread David Engster
Vincent Beffara writes:
 I am using o-blog for that, it is pretty great. 

Thanks, that looks pretty nice. I'll take a look.

 Thing of a typical HTML5 template having a header, nav, footer,
 and article. I'd like Org to include the different exported files into
 the article section, and the rest to remain the same. The nav would
 contain a global navigation menu, also highlighting the current active
 section (though CSS, no JS please).

 I never quite managed to do that ... but it should definitely be doable.

It's really simple to do. You just have to include some 'id' in the
body which indicates to which section it belongs to.

I've also just found this, which uses Org only as a markup tool and
Jekyll to generate the site:

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-jekyll.html

But doing everything in Org is tempting, of course. And then just serve
that stuff with ElNode. :-)

-David



Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-04-01 Thread Vincent Beffara
   Thing of a typical HTML5 template having a header, nav, footer,
   and article. I'd like Org to include the different exported files into
   the article section, and the rest to remain the same. The nav would
   contain a global navigation menu, also highlighting the current active
   section (though CSS, no JS please).
  
  I never quite managed to do that ... but it should definitely be doable.
 
 It's really simple to do. You just have to include some 'id' in the
 body which indicates to which section it belongs to.

Yes, I mean, I know which html you need for that, simply within o-blog you need 
to manage between relative paths, absolute paths, canonical paths and so on in 
the template, to match the right section,  - mainly it should be a matter of 
let-ing the right variable to the right value at the right point in the 
template and catching it when generating the toc, but I never took the time to 
get it right ...
 I've also just found this, which uses Org only as a markup tool and
 Jekyll to generate the site:
 
 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-jekyll.html
I had a look at the too, but it felt just a little bit too convoluted compared 
to managing everything from Org. Besides, it seems to lose fontification of 
code snippets and the like?

/v



Re: [O] Org as a static site generator

2013-04-01 Thread Ian Barton

On 01/04/13 13:08, Vincent Beffara wrote:


Yes, I mean, I know which html you need for that, simply within o-blog you need 
to manage between relative paths, absolute paths, canonical paths and so on in 
the template, to match the right section,  - mainly it should be a matter of 
let-ing the right variable to the right value at the right point in the 
template and catching it when generating the toc, but I never took the time to 
get it right ...

I've also just found this, which uses Org only as a markup tool and
Jekyll to generate the site:

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-jekyll.html

I had a look at the too, but it felt just a little bit too convoluted compared 
to managing everything from Org. Besides, it seems to lose fontification of 
code snippets and the like?

/v

As the original author of that page, I agree that using Jekyll is 
convoluted, but it gives you much more control. However I now use 
Pelican: https://pelican.readthedocs.org/en/3.1.1/


There are a few reasons for this. Pelican is written in Python, which I 
find easier to hack on. It is more flexible than Jekyll, which I found 
hard to get to work the way I wanted with categories and tags.


I wrote a yaml importer for Pelican so I could use my old jekyll posts. 
However, Pelican understands Markdown, which I think the new exporter 
supports.


So my work flow now is Emacs- export as html - run Jekyll

Ian.