Re: [O] Recurring events with ranges broken
On Apr 15, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Philipp M. wrote: > On 15 April 2011 05:04, Matt Lundin wrote: > "Philipp M." writes: > > > It would be the proper way to set up timetables for a semester. > > The workaround I use is mentioned in the FAQ http://orgmode.org/worg/ > > org-faq.html#org-diary-class > > Unfortunately the FAQ doesn't state that putting the time in the > > heading is the only way to get the time into the agenda and that all > > other attempts you might expect to do what you want break silently. > > The following works fine for me here: > > * My classes > %%(org-diary-class 2 20 2011 5 30 2011 4) 9:00am-10:00am Emacs 101 > > > This works fine for the agenda but still fails to be exported properly as an > iCalendar, which is my main problem. One way to address this would be to modify icalendar.el to make it understand org-diary-class. Start with a function like calendar--convert-cyclic-to-ical and modify it to read and convert org-diary-class entries as well. icalendar.el should really have hooks to allow other functions to be plugged into it, but it does not. So you can just amend one of its functions and define that after you loaded icalendar.el, or use advice. Another way would of cause be to put functionality into org-icalendar to search for and convert such entries. HTH - Carsten
Re: [O] Recurring events with ranges broken
On 15 April 2011 05:04, Matt Lundin wrote: > "Philipp M." writes: > > > It would be the proper way to set up timetables for a semester. > > The workaround I use is mentioned in the FAQ http://orgmode.org/worg/ > > org-faq.html#org-diary-class > > Unfortunately the FAQ doesn't state that putting the time in the > > heading is the only way to get the time into the agenda and that all > > other attempts you might expect to do what you want break silently. > > The following works fine for me here: > > * My classes > %%(org-diary-class 2 20 2011 5 30 2011 4) 9:00am-10:00am Emacs 101 > > This works fine for the agenda but still fails to be exported properly as an iCalendar, which is my main problem. Regards, Philipp
Re: [O] Recurring events with ranges broken
"Philipp M." writes: > It would be the proper way to set up timetables for a semester. > The workaround I use is mentioned in the FAQ http://orgmode.org/worg/ > org-faq.html#org-diary-class > Unfortunately the FAQ doesn't state that putting the time in the > heading is the only way to get the time into the agenda and that all > other attempts you might expect to do what you want break silently. The following works fine for me here: * My classes %%(org-diary-class 2 20 2011 5 30 2011 4) 9:00am-10:00am Emacs 101 This method will cause the agenda to display the string following the sexp (e.g., Emacs 101) rather than the headline. Best, Matt
Re: [O] Recurring events with ranges broken
On Apr 13, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Philipp M. wrote: > I apologize for the poor wording of my mail. > > > On 11 April 2011 10:18, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: > "Philipp M." writes: > > Hi, Philipp, > > In the recent org-mode realease something > could ou be more precise, please? > > In org-mode 7.5. > > > recurring ranges with timestamps > > are not properly recognized in the agenda. > > This wont work: > > <2011-04-07 Thu +1w>--<2011-04-20 Wed> > uh! Has it ever worked ?-) > > and > > Could you please give us an idea approximately > when it was working? > > I don't think it ever worked. > > Could you also, please, explain to me what's the > rationale behind this kind of time range? > Why do intend to use it? > > It would be the proper way to set up timetables for a semester. > The workaround I use is mentioned in the FAQ > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#org-diary-class > Unfortunately the FAQ doesn't state that putting the time in the heading is > the only way to get the time into the agenda and that all other attempts you > might expect to do what you want break silently. > Also it doesn't state the drawbacks of doing it like this (exporting breaks). Since you have now figured it out, why don't you change the FAQ to reflect that knowledge? The FAQ is user-editable. - Carsten > > > The _repeater interval_, indicates that the event applies > not only on the given date, but again and again after a > certain interval. > > > <2011-04-07 Thu +1w>--<2011-04-20 Wed> > > when the first date is passed e.g. 21st of April <2011-04-21 Thr> > how can it match with a negative interval, since the second member is > at the <2011-04-20 Wed> ? > > > I hope the usecase explains how I would want that to work. > > > cheers, > Giovanni > > regards, > Philipp - Carsten
Re: [O] Recurring events with ranges broken
I apologize for the poor wording of my mail. On 11 April 2011 10:18, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: > "Philipp M." writes: > > Hi, Philipp, > > In the recent org-mode realease something > could ou be more precise, please? > In org-mode 7.5. > > recurring ranges with timestamps > > are not properly recognized in the agenda. > > This wont work: > > <2011-04-07 Thu +1w>--<2011-04-20 Wed> > uh! Has it ever worked ?-) > and Could you please give us an idea approximately > when it was working? > I don't think it ever worked. > Could you also, please, explain to me what's the > rationale behind this kind of time range? > Why do intend to use it? > It would be the proper way to set up timetables for a semester. The workaround I use is mentioned in the FAQ http://orgmode.org/worg/org -faq.html#org-diary-class Unfortunately the FAQ doesn't state that putting the time in the heading is the only way to get the time into the agenda and that all other attempts you might expect to do what you want break silently. Also it doesn't state the drawbacks of doing it like this (exporting breaks). > The _repeater interval_, indicates that the event applies > not only on the given date, but again and again after a > certain interval. > > > <2011-04-07 Thu +1w>--<2011-04-20 Wed> > > when the first date is passed e.g. 21st of April <2011-04-21 Thr> > how can it match with a negative interval, since the second member is > at the <2011-04-20 Wed> ? > > I hope the usecase explains how I would want that to work. > > cheers, > Giovanni > regards, Philipp
Re: [O] Recurring events with ranges broken
Hello, recurring ranges with timestamps are not properly recognized in the agenda. This wont work: <2011-04-07 Thu +1w>--<2011-04-20 Wed> uh! Has it ever worked ?-) Could you please give us an idea approximately when it was working? Could you also, please, explain to me what's the rationale behind this kind of time range? Why do intend to use it? I'm not sure the intention of the original poster but I'd find that feature handy. This notation would mean: repeat event each week until the date 2011-04-20 - after that date stop. I know I wanted this in the past and it didn't work. Maybe there is other way - I was not motivated enough to dig deeper. Cheers, Radek.
Re: [O] Recurring events with ranges broken
"Philipp M." writes: Hi, Philipp, > In the recent org-mode realease something could ou be more precise, please? > recurring ranges with timestamps > are not properly recognized in the agenda. > This wont work: > <2011-04-07 Thu +1w>--<2011-04-20 Wed> uh! Has it ever worked ?-) Could you please give us an idea approximately when it was working? Could you also, please, explain to me what's the rationale behind this kind of time range? Why do intend to use it? The _repeater interval_, indicates that the event applies not only on the given date, but again and again after a certain interval. > <2011-04-07 Thu +1w>--<2011-04-20 Wed> when the first date is passed e.g. 21st of April <2011-04-21 Thr> how can it match with a negative interval, since the second member is at the <2011-04-20 Wed> ? cheers, Giovanni
[O] Recurring events with ranges broken
In the recent org-mode realease something recurring ranges with timestamps are not properly recognized in the agenda. This wont work: <2011-04-07 Thu +1w>--<2011-04-20 Wed> Things get even messier when timestamps are involved: <2011-04-07 Thu 17:30-18:40 +1w>--<2011-04-20 Wed> The usual fix is to use a diary sexp and put the time in the heading: * 17:30-18:40 foo <%%(and (= 3 (calendar-day-of-week date)) (diary-block 4 1 2011 9 30 2011)))> Which in turn breaks exporting to iCalendar and is an ugly hack. Unfortunately I'm not good enough at lisp to fix it myself, so I'd volunteer for testing if someone is interested to fix it. As I can see it their are multiple solutions: Either allow the diary sexp to use time or change the way the ranges work.
