Re: [O] ox-freemind.el / org-freemind.el

2014-09-02 Thread Felix Natter
Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net writes:

 Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net writes:

 hi,

 I am working on org-freeplane.el, a fork of org-freemind.el [1].

 [1] FreeMind and Freeplane are mind mapping programs and can thus
 be used to organize tree-structured information like org-mode does.
 Freeplane is a FreeMind fork, org-freeplane.el was necessary because
 users want to use the features of Freeplane.

 Can someone please point me to the code for converting node text to
 HTML in org-mode?

 org-freemind is derived from ox-html:

 ,
 | ;;; Define Back-End
 | (org-export-define-derived-backend 'freemind 'html ...)
 `

 so if org-freeplane derives from org-freemind, you have all the
 html-exporting functionality at your fingertips already, if I'm not
 mistaken. 

 hi Thorsten,

 thanks for the hint, seems my org-mode is hopelessly outdated (from
 emacs 24.3). 
 However, I cannot find any *-freemind.el in
 git://git.savannah.gnu.org/emacs.git, is that because it's non-free?
 (in git://orgmode.org/org-mode.git, it is included as
 contrib/lisp/ox-freemind.el, does the 'contrib' indicate non-free as
 well...?)

 for me its in:

 ,
 | /org-mode/contrib/lisp/ox-freemind.el
 `

For me too :-)

So the right way for ox-freeplane.el to be accepted in org-mode is to
extend or clone ox-freemind.el? Is there a chance that ox-freeplane.el
will move from contrib/ to lisp/ (when I sign the copyright papers)?

 Is ox-freemind.el derived (forked/copied) from org-freemind.el?
 Is anyone currently actively developing ox-freemind.el?

 Does org-freemind.el exist at all?

Yes, it's part of GNU Emacs 24.3:
/usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/org/org-freemind.el.gz

Thanks and Best Regards,
-- 
Felix Natter




Re: [O] ox-freemind.el / org-freemind.el

2014-09-02 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net writes:

 So the right way for ox-freeplane.el to be accepted in org-mode is to
 extend or clone ox-freemind.el?

Thats just a technical question, and it seems to make more sense than
starting from scratch. The maintainers accept libs, doesn't matter if
cloned or written from scratch, its more a question of quality and
usefullness.

 Is there a chance that ox-freeplane.el
 will move from contrib/ to lisp/ (when I sign the copyright papers)?

You can have a github repo and make a MELPA package, that way all Emacs
users who use MELPA can easily install your lib. Its not a *must* to
include an Org lib in Org-mode, but if you want to, you need to convince
the maintainers and probably sign the papers, yes.

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten




[O] ox-freemind.el / org-freemind.el (was: Re: Code to convert lists etc. to HTML for org-mode export filter?)

2014-09-01 Thread Felix Natter
Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net writes:

 hi,

 I am working on org-freeplane.el, a fork of org-freemind.el [1].

 [1] FreeMind and Freeplane are mind mapping programs and can thus
 be used to organize tree-structured information like org-mode does.
 Freeplane is a FreeMind fork, org-freeplane.el was necessary because
 users want to use the features of Freeplane.

 Can someone please point me to the code for converting node text to
 HTML in org-mode?

 org-freemind is derived from ox-html:

 ,
 | ;;; Define Back-End
 | (org-export-define-derived-backend 'freemind 'html ...)
 `

 so if org-freeplane derives from org-freemind, you have all the
 html-exporting functionality at your fingertips already, if I'm not
 mistaken. 

hi Thorsten,

thanks for the hint, seems my org-mode is hopelessly outdated (from
emacs 24.3). 
However, I cannot find any *-freemind.el in
git://git.savannah.gnu.org/emacs.git, is that because it's non-free?
(in git://orgmode.org/org-mode.git, it is included as
contrib/lisp/ox-freemind.el, does the 'contrib' indicate non-free as
well...?)

Is ox-freemind.el derived (forked/copied) from org-freemind.el?
Is anyone currently actively developing ox-freemind.el?

Also: In order to build on the latest org-mode, can I just put
contrib/lisp and lisp/ from git://orgmode.org/org-mode.git master branch
in my load-path?

Thanks and Best Regards,
-- 
Felix Natter




Re: [O] ox-freemind.el / org-freemind.el

2014-09-01 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net writes:

 Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net writes:

 hi,

 I am working on org-freeplane.el, a fork of org-freemind.el [1].

 [1] FreeMind and Freeplane are mind mapping programs and can thus
 be used to organize tree-structured information like org-mode does.
 Freeplane is a FreeMind fork, org-freeplane.el was necessary because
 users want to use the features of Freeplane.

 Can someone please point me to the code for converting node text to
 HTML in org-mode?

 org-freemind is derived from ox-html:

 ,
 | ;;; Define Back-End
 | (org-export-define-derived-backend 'freemind 'html ...)
 `

 so if org-freeplane derives from org-freemind, you have all the
 html-exporting functionality at your fingertips already, if I'm not
 mistaken. 

 hi Thorsten,

 thanks for the hint, seems my org-mode is hopelessly outdated (from
 emacs 24.3). 
 However, I cannot find any *-freemind.el in
 git://git.savannah.gnu.org/emacs.git, is that because it's non-free?
 (in git://orgmode.org/org-mode.git, it is included as
 contrib/lisp/ox-freemind.el, does the 'contrib' indicate non-free as
 well...?)

for me its in:

,
| /org-mode/contrib/lisp/ox-freemind.el
`

 Is ox-freemind.el derived (forked/copied) from org-freemind.el?
 Is anyone currently actively developing ox-freemind.el?

Does org-freemind.el exist at all? exporters a usually prefixed with
'ox-'. I have no idea about its state, did not even know about
freemind. 

 Also: In order to build on the latest org-mode, can I just put
 contrib/lisp and lisp/ from git://orgmode.org/org-mode.git master branch
 in my load-path?

There exists a dedicate Worg article about this topic, but I don't know
the URL.

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten