[Orgmode] Re: Org suggestion: option which allows moving subtrees freely
+1 I always supposed there was some Good Reason (tm) for prohibiting this, which I hadn't yet understood, so I never asked for it before. But since PT asked, I'll join in. Scot On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:24 AM, PTspamfilteracco...@gmail.com wrote: Often I want to move an item or a subtree to an other location with M-up/down and I get the message Cannot move past superior level. I think there could be an option allowing this behavior. In practice I found sometimes it would be quicker and easier to move stuff under a different heading in the same file by simply using Meta+cursor keys than using the refill interface. +2 Now what I have to do in order to get it is to to M-right and then M-up, and M-left to accomplish the same results. Giovanni ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Org suggestion: option which allows moving subtrees freely
Carsten Dominik carsten.dominik at gmail.com writes: I do M-left M-up M-right to get past a parent. When moving down, M-left M-down M-right will get you to the end of that subtree, but otherwise it works just fine. It seems like something which org could also do if the user sets the option. If I move the tree up with M-up and it sees I'm at the parent heading then it could set the header level to the same as the parent's, move the item above the parent and leave it there, letting me do the rest of the positioning manually. So it would spare at least an M-left for the user which doesn't seem much, but small things add up in the long run. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Org suggestion: option which allows moving subtrees freely
PT spamfilteraccount at gmail.com writes: So it would spare at least an M-left for the user which doesn't seem much, but small things add up in the long run. Maybe the M-right part wouldn't be too hard either. If above the moved up header (which is now at the same level as its previous parent header after an automatic M-left) there is an other header on the same level then it could be put under it with an automatic M-right. It could spare 2 keypresses which would be a real improvement. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Org suggestion: option which allows moving subtrees freely
PT spamfilteracco...@gmail.com writes: Hi! So it would spare at least an M-left for the user which doesn't seem much, but small things add up in the long run. Maybe the M-right part wouldn't be too hard either. If above the moved up header (which is now at the same level as its previous parent header after an automatic M-left) there is an other header on the same level then it could be put under it with an automatic M-right. It could spare 2 keypresses which would be a real improvement. I can't see that this would be a big improvement. If you want to move the subtree that far away that the number of keystrokes invoced makes a difference, then probably you should have used refiling in the first run. At least I'm one of those that would accidentially destroy the document structure with such an automatic reparenting. ;-) Well, as optional feature I don't have an opinion. But I think you could add an around advice to `org-metaup' to get that behavior. Simply ad-do-it and catch a possible error. If there was none, you are ok. If there was one, you have to call `org-metaleft' followed by `org-metaup' again. Bye, Tassilo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Org suggestion: option which allows moving subtrees freely
On 2009-08-11 10:24 +0100, PT wrote: Often I want to move an item or a subtree to an other location with M-up/down and I get the message Cannot move past superior level. I think there could be an option allowing this behavior. In practice I found sometimes it would be quicker and easier to move stuff under a different heading in the same file by simply using Meta+cursor keys than using the refill interface. I agree with Carsten and Tassilo. I don't see this as an improvement. C-k and C-y is easy enough to move substrees and it can move them anywhere. -- Emacs uptime: 21 hours, 53 minutes, 48 seconds ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Org suggestion: option which allows moving subtrees freely
Leo sdl@gmail.com writes: On 2009-08-11 10:24 +0100, PT wrote: Often I want to move an item or a subtree to an other location with M-up/down and I get the message Cannot move past superior level. I think there could be an option allowing this behavior. In practice I found sometimes it would be quicker and easier to move stuff under a different heading in the same file by simply using Meta+cursor keys than using the refill interface. I agree with Carsten and Tassilo. I don't see this as an improvement. C-k and C-y is easy enough to move substrees and it can move them anywhere. I agree with Leo, Carsten, and Tassilo. When I move a subtree to a different tree entirely, I use C-k and C-y or refile. I appreciate that org/outline mode respects the integrity of the outline tree. Otherwise, IMO, M-up/down could easily wreak havoc with the structure of the document. - Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org suggestion: option which allows moving subtrees freely
Thank you all for your input, I am not going to make a change here. - Carsten On Aug 11, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Matt Lundin wrote: Leo sdl@gmail.com writes: On 2009-08-11 10:24 +0100, PT wrote: Often I want to move an item or a subtree to an other location with M-up/down and I get the message Cannot move past superior level. I think there could be an option allowing this behavior. In practice I found sometimes it would be quicker and easier to move stuff under a different heading in the same file by simply using Meta+cursor keys than using the refill interface. I agree with Carsten and Tassilo. I don't see this as an improvement. C-k and C-y is easy enough to move substrees and it can move them anywhere. I agree with Leo, Carsten, and Tassilo. When I move a subtree to a different tree entirely, I use C-k and C-y or refile. I appreciate that org/outline mode respects the integrity of the outline tree. Otherwise, IMO, M-up/down could easily wreak havoc with the structure of the document. - Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org suggestion: option which allows moving subtrees freely
I appreciate that org/outline mode respects the integrity of the outline tree. Otherwise, IMO, M-up/down could easily wreak havoc with the structure of the document. ditto. See I thought there was a Good Reason. Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
