Re: [Orgmode] Re: org-mode PDAs

2007-09-18 Thread Daniel M German


 Leo On 2007-09-17 13:50 +0100, Sven Bretfeld wrote:
  Hi,
  
  On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 01:23:35PM +0300, Cezar wrote:
  
  Hello,
  
  I would like to know if there are any PDA or Smartphone devices to use
  with org-mode, and be able to sync between them with ease.
  
  This would be of major interest. Is it besser to wait for the official
  release of the OpenMoko? I have heard that one can install a complete
  Emacs on this.
  
  Bye,
  
  Sven

 Leo Can someone help me understand the advantage of running Emacs in pda?
 Leo Emacs is an keyboard driven application and pda sucks at keyboard
 Leo input. How would these two things match?

My Nokia N800 replaces my laptop in several trips. I have a bluetooth
keyboard for it. Using with a stylus would be difficult, but not
impossible. It is a matter of how hard I want it. And I want org on my
n800 ;)

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[Orgmode] Re: org-mode PDAs

2007-09-17 Thread Leo
On 2007-09-17 13:50 +0100, Sven Bretfeld wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 01:23:35PM +0300, Cezar wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
   I would like to know if there are any PDA or Smartphone devices to use
   with org-mode, and be able to sync between them with ease.

 This would be of major interest. Is it besser to wait for the official
 release of the OpenMoko? I have heard that one can install a complete
 Emacs on this.

 Bye,

 Sven

Can someone help me understand the advantage of running Emacs in pda?
Emacs is an keyboard driven application and pda sucks at keyboard
input. How would these two things match?

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[Orgmode] Re: org-mode PDAs

2007-09-17 Thread Cezar
Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can someone help me understand the advantage of running Emacs in pda?
 Emacs is an keyboard driven application and pda sucks at keyboard
 input. How would these two things match?

The new smartphones have a qwerty keyboard (see blackbery, and palm
treo). I don't know how fast you can be, but it's about bringing our
favorite working enviroment to our pocket since most of us have
everything inside emacs (mail, org, text editor, etc).

At least thats what I feel the need for, an emacs to go :P

Cheers,
Cezar



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: org-mode PDAs

2007-09-17 Thread Scott Jaderholm
On 9/17/07, Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can someone help me understand the advantage of running Emacs in pda?
 Emacs is an keyboard driven application and pda sucks at keyboard
 input. How would these two things match?


I don't think that most people would choose to run Emacs on a PDA (phone) if
they had a desktop/laptop available. The scenario where Emacs on a phone
seems attractive is when your only options are Emacs on your phone or
writing on your hand.

As someone who's used Emacs on a HTC Mogul though[1], I completely agree
with your point. Generally PDAs/phones don't make very good Emacs devices,
not so much because typing on their keyboards is slow, but because almost
all physical phone keyboards (excluding external keyboards) lack Control and
Meta keys. As you can imagine, Emacs without Control or Meta is not very
useful or fun.

Cheers,
Scott

Footnotes:
[1] I used SSH, which had the added benefit that I didn't have to worry
about syncing my org-mode files.
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