Re: [O] org unavailable in ELPA package manager

2011-07-27 Thread Bastien
Hi Max,

hope you'll get this sorted out -- I'm sure Jambunathan will provide
usefull directions.

If you see anything that can be clearer in Worg's instructions, please
let us know.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] org unavailable in ELPA package manager

2011-07-26 Thread Jambunathan K

 - The ELPA instructions are for Emacs 22, not 23 (but like I said, I
 believe I had it working before)

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#installing-elpa

If you are using package.el from tromey.com then you need to delete it
from load-path.

Previous success story is here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-06/msg00374.html

Jambunathan K.



Re: [O] org unavailable in ELPA package manager

2011-07-26 Thread Max Roberts-Zirker
Bastien and Jambunathan,

- I am running Emacs 23.2.1
- launching Emacs from the terminal with ~$ emacs -Q made no difference (was
that just to open up the Lisp interpreter?)
- I just successfully upgraded to Org-Mode version 7.6 using the How do I
install Org-mode from a ELPA-compatible tarball? section from
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#installing-elpa

However, I'm not sure why this should have worked, since

- M-x list-packages RET displays [No match] in the bottom bar.
- I also seem to have lost the ability to evaluate (C-x e returns a no kdb
macro has been defined message).

I'm not sure what to do with
http://repo.or.cz/w/emacs.git/blob_plain/1a0a666f941c99882093d7bd08ced15033bc3f0c:/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.elbut
I assume since I'm now running Org-Mode 7.6 it is no longer necessary.

Max...


On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote:

 Hi Max,

 Max Roberts-Zirker mmma...@gmail.com writes:

  Thanks for the quick follow up. I'm encouraged to know that there is
  an active community here.

 There is :)

 Can we start again with the problem at hand?

 Here is how I read it:

 - you use Emacs 23.2
 - you do M-x list-packages RET
 - you don't see org as a proposed ELPA package.

 Is that right?  If so, does it happen when launching Emacs
 with ~$ emacs -Q ?

 Thanks for further details,

 --
  Bastien



Re: [O] org unavailable in ELPA package manager

2011-07-26 Thread Jambunathan K

 - I just successfully upgraded to Org-Mode version 7.6 using the How
 do I install Org-mode from a ELPA-compatible tarball? section from 
 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#installing-elpa

Good. But downloading by hand is kind of a pain.

 However, I'm not sure why this should have worked, since

 - M-x list-packages RET displays [No match] in the bottom bar.

What does C-h v package-archives report?

 I'm not sure what to do with http://repo.or.cz/w/emacs.git/blob_plain
 /1a0a666f941c99882093d7bd08ced15033bc3f0c:/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
 but I assume since I'm now running Org-Mode 7.6 it is no longer
 necessary.

If you want to use package manager with emacs-23 this step is
necessary. Copy it to ~/elisp and follow step 2.

Jambunathan K.



Re: [O] org unavailable in ELPA package manager

2011-07-26 Thread Max Roberts-Zirker
Thanks for sticking with me Jambunathan,

C-h v package-archives RET reports no match also, though there do appear to
be commands: package-archive-base, package-archive-upload-base,
package-archive-version, and package-archive-contents.

Also, when I run M-x package-list-packages, it connects me to the
tromey.comsite and provides a list of available packages (INCLUDING
ORG in red, which
I assume means it is already installed.)

Max...

P.S. The ~/elisp file was successfully copied, and I'm no longer getting a
load-path error when I start emacs, so I think that solved something.
Thanks.



On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.comwrote:


  - I just successfully upgraded to Org-Mode version 7.6 using the How
  do I install Org-mode from a ELPA-compatible tarball? section from
  http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#installing-elpa

 Good. But downloading by hand is kind of a pain.

  However, I'm not sure why this should have worked, since
 
  - M-x list-packages RET displays [No match] in the bottom bar.

 What does C-h v package-archives report?

  I'm not sure what to do with http://repo.or.cz/w/emacs.git/blob_plain
  /1a0a666f941c99882093d7bd08ced15033bc3f0c:/lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
  but I assume since I'm now running Org-Mode 7.6 it is no longer
  necessary.

 If you want to use package manager with emacs-23 this step is
 necessary. Copy it to ~/elisp and follow step 2.

 Jambunathan K.



Re: [O] org unavailable in ELPA package manager

2011-07-26 Thread Jambunathan K
Max Roberts-Zirker mmma...@gmail.com writes:

 Thanks for sticking with me Jambunathan,

 C-h v package-archives RET reports no match also, though there do
 appear to be commands: package-archive-base,
 package-archive-upload-base, package-archive-version, and
 package-archive-contents.

C-h v package-archives MUST report something like as below.

((gnu . http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/;))



 Also, when I run M-x package-list-packages, it connects me to the 
 tromey.com site and provides a list of available packages (INCLUDING
 ORG in red, which I assume means it is already installed.)

You aren't following the instructions correctly.

,
| If you are using package.el from tromey.com then you need to delete it
| from load-path.
`

Use M-x locate-library RET package RET

and delete those package.el and package.elc files before installing the
package.el file that the FAQ points to.

Jambunathan K.



 Max...

 P.S. The ~/elisp file was successfully copied, and I'm no longer
 getting a load-path error when I start emacs, so I think that solved
 something.  Thanks.



 On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Jambunathan K 
 kjambunat...@gmail.com wrote:


  - I just successfully upgraded to Org-Mode version 7.6 using
 the How
  do I install Org-mode from a ELPA-compatible tarball? section
 from
  http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#installing-elpa

 Good. But downloading by hand is kind of a pain.

  However, I'm not sure why this should have worked, since
 
  - M-x list-packages RET displays [No match] in the bottom
 bar.

 What does C-h v package-archives report?

  I'm not sure what to do with http://repo.or.cz/w/emacs.git/
 blob_plain
  /1a0a666f941c99882093d7bd08ced15033bc3f0c:/lisp/emacs-lisp/
 package.el
  but I assume since I'm now running Org-Mode 7.6 it is no longer
  necessary.

 If you want to use package manager with emacs-23 this step is
 necessary. Copy it to ~/elisp and follow step 2.

 Jambunathan K.



Re: [O] org unavailable in ELPA package manager

2011-07-26 Thread Max Roberts-Zirker
Not sure what to say Jambunathan:

- I type C-h v and a blue input field (Minibuffer I assume?) appears:
Describe variable: I type package-archives and hit RET, and it says [no
match]. It doesn't report anything.

- Where would I delete tromey.com from load-path?  It isn't in my ~/.emacs
file or ~/elisp

- M-x locate-library RET package RET returns No library package in search
path. I'll guess that that doesn't make sense to you either. Where would
M-x package-list-packages be getting the list from?

Max...


On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.comwrote:

 Max Roberts-Zirker mmma...@gmail.com writes:

  Thanks for sticking with me Jambunathan,
 
  C-h v package-archives RET reports no match also, though there do
  appear to be commands: package-archive-base,
  package-archive-upload-base, package-archive-version, and
  package-archive-contents.

 C-h v package-archives MUST report something like as below.

 ((gnu . http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/;))


 
  Also, when I run M-x package-list-packages, it connects me to the
  tromey.com site and provides a list of available packages (INCLUDING
  ORG in red, which I assume means it is already installed.)

 You aren't following the instructions correctly.

 ,
 | If you are using package.el from tromey.com then you need to delete it
 | from load-path.
 `

 Use M-x locate-library RET package RET

 and delete those package.el and package.elc files before installing the
 package.el file that the FAQ points to.

 Jambunathan K.


 
  Max...
 
  P.S. The ~/elisp file was successfully copied, and I'm no longer
  getting a load-path error when I start emacs, so I think that solved
  something.  Thanks.
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Jambunathan K 
  kjambunat...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
   - I just successfully upgraded to Org-Mode version 7.6 using
  the How
   do I install Org-mode from a ELPA-compatible tarball? section
  from
   http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#installing-elpa
 
  Good. But downloading by hand is kind of a pain.
 
   However, I'm not sure why this should have worked, since
  
   - M-x list-packages RET displays [No match] in the bottom
  bar.
 
  What does C-h v package-archives report?
 
   I'm not sure what to do with http://repo.or.cz/w/emacs.git/
  blob_plain
   /1a0a666f941c99882093d7bd08ced15033bc3f0c:/lisp/emacs-lisp/
  package.el
   but I assume since I'm now running Org-Mode 7.6 it is no longer
   necessary.
 
  If you want to use package manager with emacs-23 this step is
  necessary. Copy it to ~/elisp and follow step 2.
 
  Jambunathan K.



Re: [O] org unavailable in ELPA package manager

2011-07-26 Thread Jambunathan K

Max

It looks like you are totally new to Emacs. Sorry if I sounded harsh. I
will help you out privately with this. Let us take our discussions off
the list.

Jambunathan K.



Re: [O] org unavailable in ELPA package manager

2011-07-25 Thread Bastien
Hi Max,

Max Roberts-Zirker mmma...@gmail.com writes:

 Thanks for the quick follow up. I'm encouraged to know that there is
 an active community here.

There is :)

Can we start again with the problem at hand?

Here is how I read it:

- you use Emacs 23.2
- you do M-x list-packages RET
- you don't see org as a proposed ELPA package.

Is that right?  If so, does it happen when launching Emacs
with ~$ emacs -Q ?

Thanks for further details,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] org unavailable in ELPA package manager

2011-07-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Max,

Max Roberts-Zirker mmma...@gmail.com writes:

 Following step 4 of the Worg instructions to install ELPA
 (http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#installing-via-elpa) in order to
 upgrade to a newer version of Org-Mode:

 If you are here it means that org is unavailable in the GNU's
 archives. Report this discrepancy to Orgmode mailing
 list. mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org 

 I'm reporting that I didn't find org as an option when I (finally) got
 the ELPA package manager installed. I'll try updating from a tarball.

What version of Emacs are you using?

I just did M-x list-packages RET and Org is listed here, version
20110724, indicating this is yesterday's snapshot.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] org unavailable in ELPA package manager

2011-07-24 Thread Max Roberts-Zirker
Bastien,

Thanks for the quick follow up. I'm encouraged to know that there is an
active community here.

I'm using Emacs 23, but I've been trying to get my org files to sync between
Ubuntu (which has 'GNU Emacs 23', 'Emacs Snapshot (Client)', and 'Emacs
Snapshot (GTK)'), OSX with Aquamacs, and my Android phone. I believe that I
got the package manager installed on one of the linux emacs clients as I was
looking through a list of packages to install, but I can't remember which
one. Now M-x list-packages RET shows [No match], so I can't confirm it.
I'm confused why it would have worked before and not now.

A few considerations:
- The ELPA instructions are for Emacs 22, not 23 (but like I said, I believe
I had it working before)
- I didn't change the ~/elisp/ path from the package manager installation
instructions
- If I skip ahead in the Worg instructions to test whether the installation
was successful by locating the library, I get the following return: Library
is file /usr/share/emacs/23.2/lisp/org/org.elc

Anything else I might be missing?

Max...

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote:

 Hi Max,

 Max Roberts-Zirker mmma...@gmail.com writes:

  Following step 4 of the Worg instructions to install ELPA
  (http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#installing-via-elpa) in order to
  upgrade to a newer version of Org-Mode:
 
  If you are here it means that org is unavailable in the GNU's
  archives. Report this discrepancy to Orgmode mailing
  list. mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org 
 
  I'm reporting that I didn't find org as an option when I (finally) got
  the ELPA package manager installed. I'll try updating from a tarball.

 What version of Emacs are you using?

 I just did M-x list-packages RET and Org is listed here, version
 20110724, indicating this is yesterday's snapshot.

 --
  Bastien