Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-26 Thread Juanma Barranquero

On 3/26/07, Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


See the attached image. Completion is after o. (Which looks like c.)


Do you have ClearType on?

Juanma


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Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-26 Thread LENNART BORGMAN


- Original Message -
From: Juanma Barranquero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:47 am
Subject: Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

 On 3/26/07, Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  See the attached image. Completion is after o. (Which looks 
 like c.)
 
 Do you have ClearType on?

Yes, but it still may be a problem with the KVM switch again. Just checked on 
another display and I do not see that problem there. (However later is w2k and 
the one where I see the problem is XP.)



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Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-26 Thread Lennart Borgman (gmail)

Juanma Barranquero wrote:

On 3/26/07, LENNART BORGMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Do you have ClearType on?

Yes


Does it happen also with ClearType off? (I think you could've tried
this without me asking it ;-)


Ehum, no. I thought there was no use in trying that, but no, it does not 
happen with ClearType off.


So now I have some reasons having ClearType on and at least one having 
it off ;-|




but it still may be a problem with the KVM switch again.


Do you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch?


Yes.


Just checked on another display and I do not see that problem
there. (However later is w2k and the one where I see the
problem is XP.)


So you didn't really check on another display, but another computer
setup... And AFAIK, W2K does not support ClearType.


Yes, a totally different setup. No ClearType, no KVM, w2k.



Does it happen with the stock CVS Emacs too? Five months ago I
committed a patch from Ben North that could be related (Ben's patch
definitely fixed a problem with bold faces in ClearType-enabled
Windows, BTW).


Yes, it happens with the stock CVS Emacs too. (I always - tbh nearly - 
with the stock CVS Emacs first. Even if I see no reason that there 
should be any difference.)




2006-10-27  Ben North  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (tiny change)

   * w32term.c (x_draw_glyph_string_foreground): Set background mode
   to TRANSPARENT before using overstrike to simulate bold faces.

   * xfaces.c (best_matching_font): Fix logic to decide whether to
   use overstriking to simulate bold-face (it was reversed).



CVS Emacs from 2007-03-21.


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Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-26 Thread Juanma Barranquero

On 3/26/07, Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ehum, no. I thought there was no use in trying that


Oh, of course, I asked about ClearType because it obviously had no
relation whatsoever... :)


So now I have some reasons having ClearType on and at least one having
it off ;-|


There are issues with ClearType; see for example this item from
admin/FOR-RELEASE:

** Drew Adams 12 Aug bug rpt: overlay  display artifact: trace left behind
Windows only bug. Bug appears only when Cleartype enabled, probably related
to the hack introduced on 2005-07-01 to fix some other Cleartype problem.

In fact, your problem could be related to the original problem fixed
by Jason's original patch of 2005-07-01.

BTW, what font are you using in your tests? Or does it happen with any font?

Juanma


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Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-26 Thread Lennart Borgman (gmail)

Juanma Barranquero wrote:

There are issues with ClearType; see for example this item from
admin/FOR-RELEASE:

** Drew Adams 12 Aug bug rpt: overlay  display artifact: trace left behind
Windows only bug. Bug appears only when Cleartype enabled, probably related
to the hack introduced on 2005-07-01 to fix some other Cleartype problem.


Yes, I have seen some traces of background coloring remaining on the 
screen, but I wonder whether that is an overlay only thing. I will try 
to observe it again.


BTW, what font are you using in your tests? Or does it happen with any 
font?



The default. I have never tried changing font, actually. If you have any 
suggestions for testing then please point me to some quick recipe for 
changing fonts to.



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Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-26 Thread Juanma Barranquero

On 3/26/07, Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yes, I have seen some traces of background coloring remaining on the
screen, but I wonder whether that is an overlay only thing.


What do you mean with an overlay only thing? That only happens with overlays?


The default.


What is the default font?


I have never tried changing font, actually. If you have any
suggestions for testing then please point me to some quick recipe for
changing fonts to.


Try the dejavu fonts. They're quite nice.

Juanma


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Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-26 Thread Lennart Borgman (gmail)

Juanma Barranquero wrote:
 On 3/26/07, Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, I have seen some traces of background coloring remaining on the
 screen, but I wonder whether that is an overlay only thing.

 What do you mean with an overlay only thing? That only happens with
 overlays?

I just read citation of the bug report you made:

** Drew Adams 12 Aug bug rpt: OVERLAY display artifact: trace left behind

 The default.

 What is the default font?

 -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1

 I have never tried changing font, actually. If you have any
 suggestions for testing then please point me to some quick recipe for
 changing fonts to.

 Try the dejavu fonts. They're quite nice.


Ok, I have downloaded and installed the Dejavu LGC TT fonts. But what do 
I do now? In Emacs on w32?



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Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-26 Thread Juanma Barranquero

On 3/26/07, Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I just read citation of the bug report you made:


Yes, sorry.


  -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1


I can see the problem with Courier New. It doesn't happen for me with DejaVu.


Ok, I have downloaded and installed the Dejavu LGC TT fonts. But what do
I do now? In Emacs on w32?


What I do is to define a fontset in the registry
(HKLM\Software\GNU\Emacs), i.e., an Emacs.Fontset-0 string value with

-*-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-r-normal-*-13-*-*-*-c-*-fontset-dejavu

and Emacs.Font = fontset-dejavu

Juanma


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Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-26 Thread Lennart Borgman (gmail)

Juanma Barranquero wrote:


Ok, I have downloaded and installed the Dejavu LGC TT fonts. But what do
I do now? In Emacs on w32?


What I do is to define a fontset in the registry
(HKLM\Software\GNU\Emacs), i.e., an Emacs.Fontset-0 string value with

-*-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-r-normal-*-13-*-*-*-c-*-fontset-dejavu

and Emacs.Font = fontset-dejavu



Thanks. I do not see the problem with this font either. Now I just have 
to get used to it... ;-)



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Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-25 Thread Lennart Borgman

See the attached image. Completion is after o. (Which looks like c.)


In GNU Emacs 22.0.96.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2007-03-21

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Re: Bold font hides end of previous character

2007-03-25 Thread Eli Zaretskii
 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:39:54 +0200
 From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 See the attached image. Completion is after o. (Which looks like c.)

I cannot reproduce this on my machine, neither with the default font,
nor with the one I set up in my .emacs (-outline-Courier
New-normal-r-normal-normal-15-112-96-96-c-90-iso8859-1).


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