[Emc-developers] curiosity is killing the cat

[Gene Heskett]

So the question re master for armhf is in 3 parts:

1: Are you about to switch to building against gtk3?

2: How long till python2 support will be turned off?

3: Is there anything I can do with my build scripts or my config to 
hasten those dates with my feedback?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-developers] curiosity is killing the cat

[Rene Hopf via Emc-developers]

On 04.06.21 19:20, Gene Heskett wrote:

So the question re master for armhf is in 3 parts:

1: Are you about to switch to building against gtk3?
yes, very soon, but I have not decided on a date. few issues are still 
being worked on.


2: How long till python2 support will be turned off?

at the same time.


3: Is there anything I can do with my build scripts or my config to
hasten those dates with my feedback?

check out master-gtk3 branch, and test all your configs.


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Re: [Emc-developers] curiosity is killing the cat

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 04 June 2021 13:31:36 Rene Hopf via Emc-developers wrote:

> On 04.06.21 19:20, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > So the question re master for armhf is in 3 parts:
> >
> > 1: Are you about to switch to building against gtk3?
>
> yes, very soon, but I have not decided on a date. few issues are still
> being worked on.
>
> > 2: How long till python2 support will be turned off?
>
> at the same time.
>
> > 3: Is there anything I can do with my build scripts or my config to
> > hasten those dates with my feedback?
>
> check out master-gtk3 branch, and test all your configs.
>
I will start with whats about tied for my most complex machine, the 6040 
mill, currently without a 4th axis that works.  In that case I'm 
assuming a change in the /etc/apt/sources.d/linuxcnc.list from "master" 
to "master-gtk3", then fix any dependencies if I can?  Part of my pyvcp 
gui stuff for the mister control is missfiring recently but the machine 
is running normally otherwise.

I'll check for a misswire in pyvcp before I switch to master-gtk3 though.
The 4th axis, currently commented out, is midst a conversion from a way 
too fast and not enough hold belt drive, to a smaller harmonic drive I 
have yet to make, my ender-5 plus is awaiting parts to make a new bowden 
tube. One of the shark fittings failed to hold & froze it all up.

Thank you Rene. 

> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-developers] curiosity is killing the cat

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 04 June 2021 13:31:36 Rene Hopf via Emc-developers wrote:

> On 04.06.21 19:20, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > So the question re master for armhf is in 3 parts:
> >
> > 1: Are you about to switch to building against gtk3?
>
> yes, very soon, but I have not decided on a date. few issues are still
> being worked on.
>
> > 2: How long till python2 support will be turned off?
>
> at the same time.
>
> > 3: Is there anything I can do with my build scripts or my config to
> > hasten those dates with my feedback?
>
> check out master-gtk3 branch, and test all your configs.
>
That machine won't fly unless the buildbot is building it. Its currently 
on master-rtpreempt. In which case I need the exact buildbot address, 
or, transplant my makeit scripts from the rpi4, which ought to work but 
hasn't been tested.  Your choice.

Thanks Rene.


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Re: [Emc-developers] curiosity is killing the cat

[Dr. Nikolaus Klepp]

Anno domini 2021 Fri, 4 Jun 19:31:36 +0200
 Rene Hopf via Emc-developers scripsit:
> 
> On 04.06.21 19:20, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > So the question re master for armhf is in 3 parts:
> >
> > 1: Are you about to switch to building against gtk3?
> yes, very soon, but I have not decided on a date. few issues are still 
> being worked on.
> >
> > 2: How long till python2 support will be turned off?
> at the same time.
> >
> > 3: Is there anything I can do with my build scripts or my config to
> > hasten those dates with my feedback?
> check out master-gtk3 branch, and test all your configs.

nativecam does not work with python3, so all configs with ncam will need some 
work. But that's a different story I think.

BTW master-gtk3 builds and runs fine on devuan chimaera, including the HTML 
documentation.

Nik


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Re: [Emc-developers] curiosity is killing the cat

[Rene Hopf via Emc-developers]

On 04.06.21 22:12, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:

Anno domini 2021 Fri, 4 Jun 19:31:36 +0200
  Rene Hopf via Emc-developers scripsit:

On 04.06.21 19:20, Gene Heskett wrote:

So the question re master for armhf is in 3 parts:

1: Are you about to switch to building against gtk3?

yes, very soon, but I have not decided on a date. few issues are still
being worked on.

2: How long till python2 support will be turned off?

at the same time.

3: Is there anything I can do with my build scripts or my config to
hasten those dates with my feedback?

check out master-gtk3 branch, and test all your configs.

nativecam does not work with python3, so all configs with ncam will need some 
work. But that's a different story I think.


It should be easy to port, but afaik currently unmaintained. If somebody 
starts, I'm willing to help.




BTW master-gtk3 builds and runs fine on devuan chimaera, including the HTML 
documentation.

Nik



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Re: [Emc-developers] curiosity is killing the cat

[Rene Hopf via Emc-developers]

On 04.06.21 21:07, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Friday 04 June 2021 13:31:36 Rene Hopf via Emc-developers wrote:


On 04.06.21 19:20, Gene Heskett wrote:

So the question re master for armhf is in 3 parts:

1: Are you about to switch to building against gtk3?

yes, very soon, but I have not decided on a date. few issues are still
being worked on.


2: How long till python2 support will be turned off?

at the same time.


3: Is there anything I can do with my build scripts or my config to
hasten those dates with my feedback?

check out master-gtk3 branch, and test all your configs.


That machine won't fly unless the buildbot is building it. Its currently
on master-rtpreempt. In which case I need the exact buildbot address,
or, transplant my makeit scripts from the rpi4, which ought to work but
hasn't been tested.  Your choice.

Thanks Rene.


buildbot is building it and packaging works, but I dont think non-master 
branches are uploaded anywhere.


but you can build packages on an other machine.





Cheers, Gene Heskett

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[Emc-developers] GWiz Wizard

[John Thornton]

I noticed that the GWiz Wizard has not been touched for 12 years and 
seems to be unfinished. Should we depreciate that from master and remove 
it from the documents?


JT



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Re: [Emc-developers] GWiz Wizard

[andy pugh]

On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 23:35, John Thornton  wrote:
>
> I noticed that the GWiz Wizard has not been touched for 12 years and
> seems to be unfinished. Should we depreciate that from master and remove
> it from the documents?

Probably. I think it was a good idea, but failed to gain traction.

Who was the original developer? Are they still active to give an opinion?

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Re: [Emc-developers] GWiz Wizard

[John Thornton]

Kenneth Lerman is the author. I've not seen him around, but have not 
looked real hard.


JT

On 6/4/2021 5:59 PM, andy pugh wrote:

On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 23:35, John Thornton  wrote:

I noticed that the GWiz Wizard has not been touched for 12 years and
seems to be unfinished. Should we depreciate that from master and remove
it from the documents?

Probably. I think it was a good idea, but failed to gain traction.

Who was the original developer? Are they still active to give an opinion?



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Re: [Emc-developers] GWiz Wizard

[Jon Elson]

On 06/04/2021 05:35 PM, John Thornton wrote:
I noticed that the GWiz Wizard has not been touched for 12 
years and seems to be unfinished. Should we depreciate 
that from master and remove it from the documents?


I was interesting in this as an extension to LinuxCNC.  I 
converted one of my personal "wizards"
to python a long time ago to see how difficult it was.  
Recently, I published source code for ALL my wizards on my 
web site.  These are all in c, and generate g-code 
compatible with LinuxCNC.

(See http://pico-systems.com/gcode.html for the links.)
If somebody wanted to convert these to GWiz, or straight 
Python, please be my guest.


I use these programs very often to generate my G-code for 
machining panels.
Probably, others have similar programs that could 
collectively make up a pretty good set of wizards.


Jon


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[Emc-developers] Buildot Homepage

[Phill Carter]

I have attached an update homepage for the Buildbot. It can be viewed for 
correctness here:

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Re: [Emc-developers] GWiz Wizard

[Robert Murphy]

John

That sounds like a project I should rope my son into. Part of his
Physics degree at Uni is C & Python, probably his Mechatronics degree as
well. 'Bout time to get him doing something useful, other than computing
primes.

Rob

On 5/6/21 9:42 am, Jon Elson wrote:

On 06/04/2021 05:35 PM, John Thornton wrote:

I noticed that the GWiz Wizard has not been touched for 12 years and
seems to be unfinished. Should we depreciate that from master and
remove it from the documents?


I was interesting in this as an extension to LinuxCNC.  I converted
one of my personal "wizards"
to python a long time ago to see how difficult it was.  Recently, I
published source code for ALL my wizards on my web site.  These are
all in c, and generate g-code compatible with LinuxCNC.
(See http://pico-systems.com/gcode.html for the links.)
If somebody wanted to convert these to GWiz, or straight Python,
please be my guest.

I use these programs very often to generate my G-code for machining
panels.
Probably, others have similar programs that could collectively make up
a pretty good set of wizards.

Jon


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