Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

[Thomas Gambone II]

Neil,

Are you using an off the shelf A20 board, or did you spin your own?

As for your distro, what was your approach?

Did you start from scratch / Linux From Source approach,
ending up with your development copy being nearly identical to the
production copy?

OR

Did you start with a light / customizable distro like gentoo, which has
package management maintained on the dev side.
Then you copy a subset of the system to create your production distro?

Continuing Jepler's work with the Odroid boards or similar to make a robust
embedded controller appliance with LinuxCNC would be excellent to learn.

Thank you,
-Tom


On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Rick Lair  wrote:

> I will have to look further into this, but Fagor Automation, of which we
> have two controls in our shop, is based off of a Linux software, and
> these are "Embedded", straight to the control, no desktop-ish look and
> feel.
>
> When you power the control on, it says "DECOMPRESSING LINUX",
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

[Thomas Gambone II]

Thank you for the offer to support, EBo!

With gentoo, I've gotten into it on the Odroid C1, though not too
successfully.
Can't figure out some quirkiness with slow booting that happens.

May be worth staring another thread to discuss.

Will revisit my unfinished attempt and loop back.

Thank you,
-Tom

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 3:23 PM, EBo <e...@sandien.com> wrote:

> If you end up working/developing on Gentoo, I will make time to lend a
> hand on that (or as much time as I can).
>
>EBo --
>
> On Dec 30 2015 11:56 AM, Thomas Gambone II wrote:
> > Neil,
> >
> > Are you using an off the shelf A20 board, or did you spin your own?
> >
> > As for your distro, what was your approach?
> >
> > Did you start from scratch / Linux From Source approach,
> > ending up with your development copy being nearly identical to the
> > production copy?
> >
> > OR
> >
> > Did you start with a light / customizable distro like gentoo, which
> > has
> > package management maintained on the dev side.
> > Then you copy a subset of the system to create your production
> > distro?
> >
> > Continuing Jepler's work with the Odroid boards or similar to make a
> > robust
> > embedded controller appliance with LinuxCNC would be excellent to
> > learn.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > -Tom
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I will have to look further into this, but Fagor Automation, of
> >> which we
> >> have two controls in our shop, is based off of a Linux software, and
> >> these are "Embedded", straight to the control, no desktop-ish look
> >> and
> >> feel.
> >>
> >> When you power the control on, it says "DECOMPRESSING LINUX",
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick Lair
> >> Superior Roll & Turning LLC
> >> 399 East Center Street
> >> Petersburg MI, 49270
> >> PH: 734-279-1831
> >> FAX: 734-279-1166
> >> www.superiorroll.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Moving closer to embedded

[Thomas Gambone II]

EBo,

Sure thing. Totally understandable, I've been all over the place too.

Thank you,
-Tom
On Dec 30, 2015 6:04 PM, "EBo" <e...@sandien.com> wrote:

> I am probably going to need a couple of weeks before I get back to the
> DC area and have access to all my stuff.  Can we postpone ramping up the
> Gentoo thread until then?  If you want to start before hand I do have a
> Gentoo laptop with me, but I have other obligations for the holidays
> that will keep me from doing to many extracurricular activities...
>
>    EBo --
>
> On Dec 30 2015 2:12 PM, Thomas Gambone II wrote:
> > Thank you for the offer to support, EBo!
> >
> > With gentoo, I've gotten into it on the Odroid C1, though not too
> > successfully.
> > Can't figure out some quirkiness with slow booting that happens.
> >
> > May be worth staring another thread to discuss.
> >
> > Will revisit my unfinished attempt and loop back.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > -Tom
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 3:23 PM, EBo <e...@sandien.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If you end up working/developing on Gentoo, I will make time to lend
> >> a
> >> hand on that (or as much time as I can).
> >>
> >>EBo --
> >>
> >> On Dec 30 2015 11:56 AM, Thomas Gambone II wrote:
> >> > Neil,
> >> >
> >> > Are you using an off the shelf A20 board, or did you spin your
> >> own?
> >> >
> >> > As for your distro, what was your approach?
> >> >
> >> > Did you start from scratch / Linux From Source approach,
> >> > ending up with your development copy being nearly identical to the
> >> > production copy?
> >> >
> >> > OR
> >> >
> >> > Did you start with a light / customizable distro like gentoo,
> >> which
> >> > has
> >> > package management maintained on the dev side.
> >> > Then you copy a subset of the system to create your production
> >> > distro?
> >> >
> >> > Continuing Jepler's work with the Odroid boards or similar to make
> >> a
> >> > robust
> >> > embedded controller appliance with LinuxCNC would be excellent to
> >> > learn.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you,
> >> > -Tom
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Rick Lair <r...@superiorroll.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I will have to look further into this, but Fagor Automation, of
> >> >> which we
> >> >> have two controls in our shop, is based off of a Linux software,
> >> and
> >> >> these are "Embedded", straight to the control, no desktop-ish
> >> look
> >> >> and
> >> >> feel.
> >> >>
> >> >> When you power the control on, it says "DECOMPRESSING LINUX",
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick Lair
> >> >> Superior Roll & Turning LLC
> >> >> 399 East Center Street
> >> >> Petersburg MI, 49270
> >> >> PH: 734-279-1831
> >> >> FAX: 734-279-1166
> >> >> www.superiorroll.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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Re: [Emc-developers] call for maintainers for keystick and mini guis

[Thomas Gambone II]

Hey All,

So, got LCNC master from github:jepler built, on Debian 8.2 (latest Jessie).

mini appears to work, not 100% tested yet.

keystick won't start. Not sure why, do I need a curses library? It built.
Don't see anything in the log that is very helpful, will post output later.

-Tom

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 8:48 AM, EBo  wrote:

> On Dec 23 2015 4:04 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> > On 23 December 2015 at 04:02, Jeff Epler 
> > wrote:
> >> Particularly in the case of keystick, we have very good evidence
> >> that
> >> it's received limited to no use since 2009.
> >
> > I don't use Keystick as a working interface. It is, however, useful
> > for some testing situations. (no graphics, ssh connection, that sort
> > of thing)
> >
> > However, in that use-case you might not notice that jogging was
> > broken. The normal use would be to see if it even starts and powers
> > up
> > a machine.
> >
> > Given that, I would prefer to keep it, even if it is known to be
> > broken.
>
> ok.  We have a volunteer .
>
> I can see either that or instructions and a toolset that specifically
> does remove tests.  I think we might already have that capability but
> just need some documentation on "how to test remotely via
> ssh/eth*/wifi/ascii-over-blinking-lights-at-100-baud...
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Re: [Emc-developers] call for maintainers for keystick and mini guis

[Thomas Gambone II]

Has the github mirror become the official repo?
The source link on the new homepage directs to jepler's github mirror.

Is it OK to submit pull requests to it, or should the linuxcnc.org one be
used?

Thank you,
-Tom


On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky <s...@highlab.com>
wrote:

> On 12/21/15 9:18 AM, Thomas Gambone II wrote:
>
>> Sebastian,
>>
>> Thank you for clarification.
>> I will take a look at the current state.
>>
>> Am I correct in saying that I will need to do the following:
>>
>> Build, test and perhaps fix the UI's on the master branch.
>> Backport this work into joints-axes branch, if any issues fix, and
>> retest on both branches.
>>
>
> I believe that both keystick and mini work in the master branch.
>
> The request-for-maintainers is specifically to update those UIs in the
> joints-axes branch, so that they keep working with the changes that branch
> brings about.
>
> I believe the current JA branch is "dgarr/ja10v3", because Dewey's the one
> who's been doing all the work.  Dewey, is that right?
>
> How do you feel about renaming the branch to "ja10", for simplicity?
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] call for maintainers for keystick and mini guis

[Thomas Gambone II]

What would one need to do the required testing after the maintenance?

Thank you,
-Tom

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Jeff Epler  wrote:

> In his curent joints-axes branch, dgarr/ja10v2, Dewey Garrett has
> removed the keystick (curses) and mini (sherline tcl/tk) user
> interfaces, because they need significant maintainance to be compatible
> with that branch.
>
> We have repeatedly stated that we hope that one major item in the next
> major LinuxCNC release is joints-axes.  This means that if no maintainer
> steps forward for these components, they will not be in the next version
> of LinuxCNC after the 2.7.x series.
>
> Please let us know if you are a developer (current or new) who hopes to
> maintain one of these UIs.  We can help you with advice and information,
> but right now I'm not aware of anyone who is planning to take the time
> to do the work and more importantly test keystick and mini once they're
> rehabilitated.
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] call for maintainers for keystick and mini guis

[Thomas Gambone II]

Sebastian,

Thank you for clarification.
I will take a look at the current state.

Am I correct in saying that I will need to do the following:

Build, test and perhaps fix the UI's on the master branch.
Backport this work into joints-axes branch, if any issues fix, and retest
on both branches.

Thank you,
-Tom


On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky <s...@highlab.com>
wrote:

> On 12/21/15 3:35 AM, Thomas Gambone II wrote:
>
>> What would one need to do the required testing after the maintenance?
>>
>
> I think you should make sure it compiles and runs with some fairly
> standard sim configs, and that at least the basic features work (come out
> of estop, home, jog, mdi, run programs, single step). I'd consider that a
> basic "good enough to ship" test.
>
> Then of course the maintainer's main responsibility is to respond to
> feedback from users and fix bugs as needed. Though based on the lack of
> feedback for the past many years, I don't think those UIs have a lot of
> users.
>
> --
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>
>
>
>
>> Thank you,
>> -Tom
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Jeff Epler <jep...@unpythonic.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> In his curent joints-axes branch, dgarr/ja10v2, Dewey Garrett has
>>> removed the keystick (curses) and mini (sherline tcl/tk) user
>>> interfaces, because they need significant maintainance to be compatible
>>> with that branch.
>>>
>>> We have repeatedly stated that we hope that one major item in the next
>>> major LinuxCNC release is joints-axes.  This means that if no maintainer
>>> steps forward for these components, they will not be in the next version
>>> of LinuxCNC after the 2.7.x series.
>>>
>>> Please let us know if you are a developer (current or new) who hopes to
>>> maintain one of these UIs.  We can help you with advice and information,
>>> but right now I'm not aware of anyone who is planning to take the time
>>> to do the work and more importantly test keystick and mini once they're
>>> rehabilitated.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
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[Emc-developers] LinuxCNC on ARM + Mesa

[Thomas Gambone II]

Hello all!

First time mailing back to the list.

Wanted to ask the list / Jeff Epler a couple specific questions related to
his work on the ARM platform (Odroid U3) + Mesa 7i90 (SPI).

In looking through the available daughter cards from Mesa, there's nothing
quite as nice as the 7i76, 7i77, or 7i78 (DB25) boards available with the
HD50 interface (kind used by 7i90).

Notably, I don't see any card in the HD50 family that has built in stepgen.

What card(s) can you recommend to use with the 7i90 for general 3-axis+ CNC
control.

As well, in reading the detailed version of Jeff's blog post regarding the
Odroid U3 (http://emergent.unpythonic.net/odroid-u3), he mentions that
because the ethernet connection on the board is connected via USB[2.0] it
is no good for use with hostmot2_eth.

I've got a new XU4, which is basically the U3, with a beefier octa-core
processor (still Samsung Exynos) and USB3.0 ports. The ethernet is hooked
in via USB3.0 and is gigabit on this board.

Would it be possible to use a hostmot2_eth board (like the 7i76E) with a
USB3.0 to gigabit ethernet connection?

Thank you,
-Tom
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