Y3K
Hello everyone; Of the more recent units that have been a major source of confusion for many Internet users, myself included, were the units for download speeds: K/sec versus kbps. It made a lot of users wonder why their 56K modem only downloaded files at 5K/sec instead of say- 40 kbps. It turns out the 5K/sec as indicated on the browser, is actually based on an 8-bit word length so 5K/sec actually represented 5x8 or 40 kilo-bits-per-second. That is a lot closer to 56 kbps even though typical connection speed is limited to the range of 40-50 kbps for most ISPs. -- === Dan Kwok, P.Eng. Vancouver, BC, Canada Intetron Consulting, Inc.Telephone 604.432.9874 Email dk...@intetron.com *FREE* EMC Tips @ our website http://www.intetron.com === - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: Y3K
Hello everyone; Of the more recent units that have been a major source of confusion for many Internet users, myself included, were the units for download speeds: K/sec versus kbps. It made a lot of users wonder why their 56K modem only downloaded files at 5K/sec instead of say- 40 kbps. It turns out the 5K/sec as indicated on the browser, is actually based on an 8-bit word length so 5K/sec actually represented 5x8 or 40 kilo-bits-per-second. That is a lot closer to 56 kbps even though typical connection speed is limited to the range of 40-50 kbps for most ISPs. -- === Dan Kwok Vancouver, BC, Canada Intetron Consulting, Inc.Telephone 604.432.9874 Email dk...@intetron.com *FREE* EMC Tips @ our website http://www.intetron.com === - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Y3K
Cycles per second Ghery Pettit Intel -Original Message- From: m...@cjbdev.demon.co.uk [mailto:m...@cjbdev.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 5:00 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Y3K Anyway, in waxing nostalgic, I wonder how many of us recall the CPS unit. :-) Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com When I was at school, we used fps Imperial units. Then everything changed and we used cgs (centimetre, gram, second). Then we changed again, to mks (metre, kilogram, second). And finally we moved to SI (Systeme International). Since we were using slide rules and log tables, getting the decimal point in the right place was mostly guess work anyway, so the metric changes weren't too bad, and I can now class myself as incompetent in all units of measurement. But I'm going to bite (though I'll regret it later no doubt) - what's CPS? Regards, Mark -- Mark Hone Wellman CJB Limited Email: m...@cjbdev.demon.co.uk Airport Service Road Tel: +44 (0)2392 629239 (Direct) Portsmouth, HampshireTel: +44 (0)2392 664911 PO3 5PG, ENGLAND Fax: +44 (0)2392 697864 - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: Y3K
Recall it? I still use it ! === m...@cjbdev.demon.co.uk (Mark) on 01/07/2000 07:00:20 AM Please respond to m...@cjbdev.demon.co.uk (Mark) To: emc-p...@ieee.org cc:(bcc: Robert E. Heller/US-Corporate/3M/US) Subject: Re: Y3K Anyway, in waxing nostalgic, I wonder how many of us recall the CPS unit. :-) Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com When I was at school, we used fps Imperial units. Then everything changed and we used cgs (centimetre, gram, second). Then we changed again, to mks (metre, kilogram, second). And finally we moved to SI (Systeme International). Since we were using slide rules and log tables, getting the decimal point in the right place was mostly guess work anyway, so the metric changes weren't too bad, and I can now class myself as incompetent in all units of measurement. But I'm going to bite (though I'll regret it later no doubt) - what's CPS? Regards, Mark -- Mark Hone Wellman CJB Limited Email: m...@cjbdev.demon.co.uk Airport Service Road Tel: +44 (0)2392 629239 (Direct) Portsmouth, HampshireTel: +44 (0)2392 664911 PO3 5PG, ENGLAND Fax: +44 (0)2392 697864 - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Y3K
Jim: I just plotted 7 decades of test data to check this out. Did you also know that if you use a linear Y axis instead of your recommended log format, that the data plots as a perfectly straight line? Incredible! I'll bet there's some fundamental, yet hidden truth, in this relationship. Next, I'm going to make BOTH axes log, and see what happens then. Ed :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA. USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military Avionics EMC Services Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) -Original Message- From: oover...@lexmark.com [SMTP:oover...@lexmark.com] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 8:59 AM To: james_al...@milgo.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Y3K I saw a CPS to Hz conversion chart in a military (AF) test report back in the 70s. The 'X' axis (CPS) was decimal and the 'Y' axis (Hz) was Log. It provided an interesting conversion curve. It even had a formula to do the conversion long hand. We need more of this type of aids today =; james_allan%milgo@interlock.lexmark.com on 01/07/2000 09:43:34 AM Please respond to james_allan%milgo@interlock.lexmark.com To: rpickard%hypercom@interlock.lexmark.com, emc-pstc%ieee@interlock.lexmark.com cc:(bcc: Oscar Overton/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: RE: Y3K Seems like I remember a trade magazine editorial many years ago when Hertz was first being used in the US by NASA. This editor was of the opinion that Steinmetz was the first practical user of alternating current systems and thus deserved the honor more than Hertz. Since Steinmetzes was a bit of a mouthful he proposed using only his initials as an abbreviation. Steinmetz was named Charles P. which abbreviated to CPS. Jim Allan Senior Compliance Engineer Milgo Solutions Inc. E-mail james_al...@milgo.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: Y3K
Not so strange these circuits from 1926- figs 34 and 34 are examples. Parallel , Yes. Ralph - Original Message - From: Egon H. Varju e...@varju.bc.ca To: EMC-PSTC emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Y3K Roger, way back in the days of the caveman, 1M ohms = 1000 ohms. Guess going metric changed everything. Strange ... During my dinosaur hunting days, 1M ohm used to be = 1 000 000 ohms. Maybe we grew up in parallel universes ... Egon :-) __ Egon H. Varju, PEng E.H. Varju Associates Ltd. North Vancouver, Canada Tel: 1 604 985 5710 HAVE MODEM Fax: 1 604 273 5815 WILL TRAVEL E-mail: e...@varju.bc.ca eva...@compuserve.com egon.va...@csa-international.org __ - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). attachment: audio.jpg
Re: Y3K
I forgot everybody... you don't know what CPS is ??? that Hertz... Bill Owsley, EMC Engineer EMC Design - Do It First... Do It Last... But It must be Done... - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
The Big K
I ran into this uppercase K problem many years ago when I kept trying to write KHz in documents and the word processing group kept sending the finished text to me using kHz. I finally got the WP manager to show me their style manual, which referenced back to, IIRC, Mil-Std-800 (a standard on government documents). Sure enough, the US Gov said the right way to do it was to use kHz. The WP manager said something about confusing people who might think I was trying to say degrees Kelvinhertz. (Honest!) But I kept wondering if maybe the Mil Standard had a typo (from what I had seen of Mil Standards, typos were not unusual). Maybe nobody had ever noticed that before! Gee, if I were able to get that fixed, I could make a little change for the better in this world. And then everybody in the world could properly use the more rational KHz. So let's revisit my view of how everything really should be. First, 10^^3 should certainly remain kilo, but should use an uppercase K, since the unit is on the positive exponential side of zero. So, we have KHz. This is non-negotiable. The unfortunates who have been using kilometer instead of Kilometer will be grandfathered with a special dispensation for its continued use, but these folks will eventually die off, leaving everyone else in harmonious agreement. Next, we should fix that vexing 10^^-3 notation. Yes, the milli, which is forever getting confused with the micro. The only sensible thing to do is to drop the milli in favor of a -3 unit which is harmonized with the +3 unit. I think we should call this -3 unit the killi. And since it is on the negative exponential side of zero, it should always be lowercase. Thus, the killifarad, 1*10^^-3 Farads. Or the killihertz, or the killimeter. Well, it makes sense to me. Regards, Ed :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA. USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military Avionics EMC Services Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: Y3K
speaking of garbled use of units, How many buy hardrives in bits? everyone I hear says bytes as in a 10 megabyte HD. They even abbreviate is as 10 MB when it should be called a 10 Megabit drive (10 Mb) with little b as big B is for Byte. = Best Regards Hans Mellberg EMC Consultant __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: Y3K
Our magazine's standard is k for both 1000 and for 1024. So, 1024 bytes appears as 1 kbyte (we always spell out byte. I suppose we'd use k for Boltzmann's constant. Upper case K is for Kelvin. We use M for mega (1 million) and m for milli (1/1000). We also use M for the binary, as in 1 Mbytes. /\ | Martin Rowe | / \ | Senior Technical Editor | /\ /\ | Test Measurement World | / \/ \/\ | voice 617-558-4426 |/\ /\ / \/ | fax 617-928-4426 | \/ \/ | e-mail m.r...@ieee.org | \ / | http://www.tmworld.com |\/ -- According to IEEE's standard dictionary of Electrical and Electronics Terms, there are two meanings for k (lower case) and two for K (upper case): K:cathode (vacuum tube) K:kelvin k:kilo k:Bolzmann's constant Note: They do NOT list M (caps) as Mega, but do list m (lower case) as milli. The 1998 EMC Encyclopedia shows M = mega and m = milli. Mike Hopkins KeyTek - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Inquiry on Restrictions and Bans of Mercury in Product compon ents
John, Thanks for the feedback. Folks, If a product is already certified to EN61010-1 for Low Voltage Directive compiance, does it also have to meet EN60950? Does anyone have a copy of the English version of the Sweden Ordinance SFS 1991:1290? Please email copy to me at paul.j.sm...@teradyne.com. If the english version is in hardcopy, please fax it to me 603-843-7526. Thanks for your help. Best Regards,Paul J Smith Teradyne, Inc., paul.j.sm...@teradyne.com Fax 603-843-7526 Crabb, John jo...@exchange.scotland.ncr.com on 01/07/2000 04:21:29 AM To: Paul J Smith/Bos/Teradyne@Teradyne cc: Subject: RE: Inquiry on Restrictions and Bans of Mercury in Product compon ents Annex ZC, A-Deviations, in EN 60950 includes the following Swedish National deviation:- Clause 1.5.1 Sweden (Ordinance SFS 1991:1290) Add the following: Note:Switches containing mercury such as thermostats, relays and level controllers are not allowed. Regards, John Crabb, Development Excellence (Product Safety) , NCR Financial Solutions Group Ltd., Kingsway West, Dundee, Scotland. DD2 3XX E-Mail :john.cr...@scotland.ncr.com Tel: +44 (0)1382-592289 (direct ). Fax +44 (0)1382-622243. VoicePlus 6-341-2289. -Original Message- From: Paul J Smith [SMTP:paul_j_sm...@notes.teradyne.com] Sent: 04 January 2000 21:45 To: s...@world.std.com; n...@world.std.com; t...@world.std.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Inquiry on Restrictions and Bans of Mercury in Product components Folks, Can anyone provide specific text or reference that provides a specific restriction, limitation or ban to import into Europe or North America of any component or system that includes relays with mercury in it . I only found a ban for Mercury content of all kinds of batteries ( except button cells) in Directive 91/157/EEC Further, can someone provide any reference to a similar ban or restriction on electronics use of Cadmium, Lead, Nickel, Tin, or Beryllium? Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks Best Regards,Paul J Smith Teradyne, Inc., Boston, MA 02118 paul.j.sm...@teradyne.com Voice 617-422-2997 Fax 603-843-7526 or Fax 627-422-2801 - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Inquiry on Restrictions and Bans of Mercury in Product components
John, Thanks for your reply. Following up on this deviation for restricting switched containing mercury- When a country as Sweden did in 1995 becomes a member of the EU does anyone know if the A deviations cited in EN60950 was relaxed or removed? re: Annex ZC, A-Deviations, in EN 60950 :Swedish National deviation:- Clause 1.5.1 Sweden (Ordinance SFS 1991:1290) Thanks. If questions, please contact me ASAP. Best Regards,Paul J Smith Teradyne, Inc., paul.j.sm...@teradyne.com Fax 603-843-7526 Crabb, John jo...@exchange.scotland.ncr.com on 01/07/2000 04:21:29 AM To: Paul J Smith/Bos/Teradyne@Teradyne cc: Subject: RE: Inquiry on Restrictions and Bans of Mercury in Product compon ents Annex ZC, A-Deviations, in EN 60950 includes the following Swedish National deviation:- Clause 1.5.1 Sweden (Ordinance SFS 1991:1290) Add the following: Note:Switches containing mercury such as thermostats, relays and level controllers are not allowed. Regards, John Crabb, Development Excellence (Product Safety) , NCR Financial Solutions Group Ltd., Kingsway West, Dundee, Scotland. DD2 3XX E-Mail :john.cr...@scotland.ncr.com Tel: +44 (0)1382-592289 (direct ). Fax +44 (0)1382-622243. VoicePlus 6-341-2289. -Original Message- From: Paul J Smith [SMTP:paul_j_sm...@notes.teradyne.com] Sent: 04 January 2000 21:45 To: s...@world.std.com; n...@world.std.com; t...@world.std.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Inquiry on Restrictions and Bans of Mercury in Product components Folks, Can anyone provide specific text or reference that provides a specific restriction, limitation or ban to import into Europe or North America of any component or system that includes relays with mercury in it . I only found a ban for Mercury content of all kinds of batteries ( except button cells) in Directive 91/157/EEC Further, can someone provide any reference to a similar ban or restriction on electronics use of Cadmium, Lead, Nickel, Tin, or Beryllium? Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks Best Regards,Paul J Smith Teradyne, Inc., Boston, MA 02118 paul.j.sm...@teradyne.com Voice 617-422-2997 Fax 603-843-7526 or Fax 627-422-2801 - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Y3K
I saw a CPS to Hz conversion chart in a military (AF) test report back in the 70s. The 'X' axis (CPS) was decimal and the 'Y' axis (Hz) was Log. It provided an interesting conversion curve. It even had a formula to do the conversion long hand. We need more of this type of aids today =; james_allan%milgo@interlock.lexmark.com on 01/07/2000 09:43:34 AM Please respond to james_allan%milgo@interlock.lexmark.com To: rpickard%hypercom@interlock.lexmark.com, emc-pstc%ieee@interlock.lexmark.com cc:(bcc: Oscar Overton/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: RE: Y3K Seems like I remember a trade magazine editorial many years ago when Hertz was first being used in the US by NASA. This editor was of the opinion that Steinmetz was the first practical user of alternating current systems and thus deserved the honor more than Hertz. Since Steinmetzes was a bit of a mouthful he proposed using only his initials as an abbreviation. Steinmetz was named Charles P. which abbreviated to CPS. Jim Allan Senior Compliance Engineer Milgo Solutions Inc. E-mail james_al...@milgo.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Y3K
From a previous life where we tried to build computer boxes using plastic, it was; CPS = Cheap Plastic S... sometimes referred to as case hardened latex. Bill Owsley, EMC Engineer EMC Design - Do It First... Do It Last... But It must be Done... - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Y3K
According to IEEE's standard dictionary of Electrical and Electronics Terms, there are two meanings for k (lower case) and two for K (upper case): K: cathode (vacuum tube) K: kelvin k: kilo k: Bolzmann's constant Note: They do NOT list M (caps) as Mega, but do list m (lower case) as milli. The 1998 EMC Encyclopedia shows M = mega and m = milli. Mike Hopkins KeyTek -Original Message- From: Gary McInturff [SMTP:gmcintu...@telect.com] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:50 PM To: 'Egon H. Varju'; EMC-PSTC Subject: RE: Y3K Oh my last birthday my children wanted to know if I was really, really sad when the Dinosaur's all died - heavy sigh! Anyway - M is for Mega or 1,000,000 and K for Kilo or 1,000 But I'm sorta betting you're getting tired of hearing that. Gary -Original Message- From: Egon H. Varju [mailto:e...@varju.bc.ca] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 9:17 AM To: EMC-PSTC Subject:Re: Y3K Roger, way back in the days of the caveman, 1M ohms = 1000 ohms. Guess going metric changed everything. Strange ... During my dinosaur hunting days, 1M ohm used to be = 1 000 000 ohms. Maybe we grew up in parallel universes ... Egon :-) __ Egon H. Varju, PEng E.H. Varju Associates Ltd. North Vancouver, Canada Tel: 1 604 985 5710 HAVE MODEM Fax: 1 604 273 5815 WILL TRAVEL E-mail: e...@varju.bc.ca eva...@compuserve.com egon.va...@csa-international.org __ - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: Y3K
Gary, as a European school kid, we had it driven into us that: K is for the binary world, i.e. 1K=1024 k is the metric symbol for 1000 The trouble comes in when folks get sloppy and substitute willy nilly. Perhaps we should measure current in volts...;-))) Derek. Gary McInturff wrote: Oh my last birthday my children wanted to know if I was really, really sad when the Dinosaur's all died - heavy sigh! Anyway - M is for Mega or 1,000,000 and K for Kilo or 1,000 But I'm sorta betting you're getting tired of hearing that. Gary -Original Message- From: Egon H. Varju [mailto:e...@varju.bc.ca] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 9:17 AM To: EMC-PSTC Subject:Re: Y3K Roger, way back in the days of the caveman, 1M ohms = 1000 ohms. Guess going metric changed everything. Strange ... During my dinosaur hunting days, 1M ohm used to be = 1 000 000 ohms. Maybe we grew up in parallel universes ... Egon :-) __ Egon H. Varju, PEng E.H. Varju Associates Ltd. North Vancouver, Canada Tel: 1 604 985 5710 HAVE MODEM Fax: 1 604 273 5815 WILL TRAVEL E-mail: e...@varju.bc.ca eva...@compuserve.com egon.va...@csa-international.org __ - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: Y3K
Anyway, in waxing nostalgic, I wonder how many of us recall the CPS unit. :-) Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com When I was at school, we used fps Imperial units. Then everything changed and we used cgs (centimetre, gram, second). Then we changed again, to mks (metre, kilogram, second). And finally we moved to SI (Systeme International). Since we were using slide rules and log tables, getting the decimal point in the right place was mostly guess work anyway, so the metric changes weren't too bad, and I can now class myself as incompetent in all units of measurement. But I'm going to bite (though I'll regret it later no doubt) - what's CPS? Regards, Mark -- Mark Hone Wellman CJB Limited Email: m...@cjbdev.demon.co.uk Airport Service Road Tel: +44 (0)2392 629239 (Direct) Portsmouth, HampshireTel: +44 (0)2392 664911 PO3 5PG, ENGLAND Fax: +44 (0)2392 697864 - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Y2K glitch
Look at the bright side Tania, if they took your deposit on the fourth of January 1900 it will have earned one large chunk by January of 2000! ;} Brent DeWitt Datex-Ohmeda -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grant, Tania (Tania) Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 3:22 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; 'Ken Javor' Subject: RE: Y2K glitch So! ;) They got their money, didn't they?Of course they are compliant! However, I would not be depositing money via the ATM in this case! Tania Grant, tgr...@lucent.com tgr...@lucent.com Lucent Technologies, Communications Applications Group -- From: Ken Javor [SMTP:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:21 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: FW: Y2K glitch Here's a little (real) Y2 K glitch from Hungary. The attached picture is of an automatic teller machine receipt. The date is circled in orange, as is a proud disclaimer beneath stating that the OTP Bank's ATMs are Y2K compliant. Enjoy!File: OTPy2k.jpg - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
