Re: EMC requirements

2002-05-21 Thread Martin Garwood

Hi Cecil,

In answer:
Malaysia  nil (for telecom or IT)
Philippines  nil
Thailand   nil
Vietnam   nil
Bangladesh   nil
Sri Lanka   nil
Myanmar   nil

Best,
Martin.


Martin Garwood
Principal Consultant, Approval Specialists
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> 
> 
> Hi All,
>   Does any one know what the EMC requirements are for the countries
> listed below.
> 
>   Malaysia
>   Philippines
>   Thailand
>   Vietnam
>   Bangladesh
>   Sri Lanka
>   Myanmar
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Cecil
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Re: EMC requirements

2002-05-21 Thread Fred Borda


Hello Cecil,

It may depend on the product, but I can offer what our experience has been. 
Our offices around the Asia-Pacific region usually approach the question 
from the point of view of wire line telecom equipment and not from the 
non-telecom ITE context.


With that said, as far as we know there is no requirement for separate EMC 
certification in any of these markets. In some, when we prepare a client's 
telecom approval package we'll include an EMC report (against CISPR22 or a 
variant) for reference, but it's only for reference in these markets.


Hope this helps.

-Fred Borda
Compliance International



At PM 02:53 05/21/02 -0400, cecil.gitt...@kodak.com wrote:



Hi All,
  Does any one know what the EMC requirements are for the countries
listed below.

  Malaysia
  Philippines
  Thailand
  Vietnam
  Bangladesh
  Sri Lanka
  Myanmar


Thanks

Cecil



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RE: Coaxial Switches

2002-05-21 Thread Michael Taylor
Dow-Key Microwave also makes all sorts of RF Switches. (805-650-6579)

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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 3:39 PM
To: richwo...@tycoint.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: Coaxial Switches



Mini-Circuits for low power and low cost immediately comes to mind.  Narda,
Systron Donner would supply high power switches.

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>Date: Tue, May 21, 2002, 9:45 AM
>

>
> Other than Adilent, what are some other sources for low power (<1W) and
high
> power (>100W) coaxial switches for frequencies up to 2 GHz?
>
> Richard Woods
> Sensormatic Electronics
> Tyco International
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Re: EMC requirements

2002-05-21 Thread Ted Rook

This is an inside joke right? 
Post a request so outrageous no one could take it seriously?
EMC requirements for what product type?
Is KODAK your employer?
Would KODAK like to recruit an EMC consultant?
This would be a good place to find one :-)

>>>  21-May-02 2:53:24 PM >>>
Hi All,
  Does any one know what the EMC requirements are for the countries
listed below.

  Malaysia
  Philippines
  Thailand
  Vietnam
  Bangladesh
  Sri Lanka
  Myanmar


Thanks

Cecil



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RE: Coaxial Switches

2002-05-21 Thread Dan Kinney (A)

Try http://www.jfwindustries.com/


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> Other than Adilent, what are some other sources for low power (<1W) and
> high
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> Richard Woods
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Re: Coaxial Switches

2002-05-21 Thread Ken Javor

Mini-Circuits for low power and low cost immediately comes to mind.  Narda,
Systron Donner would supply high power switches.

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>Date: Tue, May 21, 2002, 9:45 AM
>

>
> Other than Adilent, what are some other sources for low power (<1W) and high
> power (>100W) coaxial switches for frequencies up to 2 GHz?
>
> Richard Woods
> Sensormatic Electronics
> Tyco International
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Coaxial Switches

2002-05-21 Thread richwoods

Other than Adilent, what are some other sources for low power (<1W) and high
power (>100W) coaxial switches for frequencies up to 2 GHz?

Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International


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RE: Emission Standards for Cell Phones and Antennas in Switzerland

2002-05-21 Thread Gert Gremmen


Basically Switzerland accepts the R&TTE directive, as for the rest of
europe.
More info at the Bakom office .(http://www.bakom.ch/en/index.html ) No
notification is required
if harmonized standards are applied. Some contact is recommended  however,
as the Swiss authorities like to be in charge

Gert Gremmen
ce-test, qualified testing

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Subject: Emission Standards for Cell Phones and Antennas in Switzerland



Dear All,
Does anyone know where I can find emission standards for cell phones and
cellular transmitting and receiving antennas for Switzerland. I have been
informed that the level acceptable in Switzerland is lower than the IRPA
standard.
Thanks to anyone who can help
Best Regards
David Shidlowsky
Technical Writer
EMC Laboratory
ITL (Product Testing) Ltd.
Kfar Bin Nun
Israel
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ITUT K.44

2002-05-21 Thread Peter Tarver

We are in the process of performing evaluations to ITUT
K.45, which references K.44 for test circuits and methods.
In K.44, there are both couplers and decouplers referenced,
when connecting the surge generator to an EUT and between
the EUT/generator and adjunct equipment.  These devices are
not allowed to affect the surge waveshape.

What are used for the couplers and most especially the
decouplers?  Large value capacitive couplers and large value
inductive decouplers?  Something more sophisticated?



Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
Product Safety Manager
Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services
San Jose, CA
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EMC requirements

2002-05-21 Thread cecil . gittens


Hi All,
  Does any one know what the EMC requirements are for the countries
listed below.

  Malaysia
  Philippines
  Thailand
  Vietnam
  Bangladesh
  Sri Lanka
  Myanmar


Thanks

Cecil



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Microwave Sweeper

2002-05-21 Thread Lfresearch
Hi all,

I have a microwave sweeper, 400 MHz to 18 GHz I believe, that I'd like to 
find another home for. Anyone interested before I put it on e-bay?

Thanks,

Derek N. Walton
Owner,
L. F. Research EMC Design and Test Facility
12790 Route 76,
Poplar Grove,
IL 61065
www.lfresearch.com


RE: Emission Standards for Cell Phones and Antennas in Switzerland

2002-05-21 Thread Robert Wilson

Oddly enough, in Switzerland (and Germany, Austria etc.) they aren't
called "cellphones". They are called "Handys". Part of a new "language"
called "DENGLISH" (Deutsch + English). Useless fact-of-the-day.

Bob Wilson
TIR Systems Ltd.
Vancouver.

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To: Emc-Pstc Group (E-mail)
Subject: Emission Standards for Cell Phones and Antennas in Switzerland


Dear All,
Does anyone know where I can find emission standards for cell phones and
cellular transmitting and receiving antennas for Switzerland. I have
been
informed that the level acceptable in Switzerland is lower than the IRPA
standard.
Thanks to anyone who can help
Best Regards
David Shidlowsky
Technical Writer
EMC Laboratory
ITL (Product Testing) Ltd.
Kfar Bin Nun
Israel
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RE: Radio approval i Japan

2002-05-21 Thread Massey, Doug C.

I would add these links to Fred's very thorough reply:

TELEC: http://www.telec.or.jp/eng/index_e.htm

IDA : http://www.ida.gov.sg/Website/IDAhome.nsf/Home?OpenForm

I've found both to be very informative, including procedures and application
forms on both sites.

Doug Massey
LXE, Inc.

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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:38 PM
To: Kim Boll Jensen
Cc: treg; EMC-PSTC
Subject: Re: Radio approval i Japan



Hello Kim,

Basic approval requirements for radio devices are as follows:

Japan
Approval is issued by the Telecom Engineering Center (TELEC). In addition 
to a detailed application procedure that must be completed in Japanese and 
according to TELEC's format, testing of the equipment is required either at 
TELEC or at an accredited laboratory. There are no such laboratories 
outside of Japan right now. Testing is to standards published by the 
Association of Radio Industries and Businesses (ARIB).

We were asked to look at a device for Japan not long ago operating in the 
433 MHz band and were told that the frequency was not available for that 
application. You should look into these specifics for your device (or have 
someone do it). Bluetooth should be no problem.

The applicant for the approval may be a foreign company.

Once the equipment is approved by TELEC it must be labeled accordingly.


Korea
Approval for radio equipment is issued by Radio Research Laboratory (RRL), 
which is organized under the Ministry of Information and Communications 
(MIC). The application procedure is handled all in Korean, and testing must 
be performed at RRL or an accredited laboratory. I don't know of any of 
these labs located outside Korea. Testing is to Korean national standards.

The applicant for the approval must be a Korean company.

Approved equipment must be labeled.


Taiwan
Approval is issued by the Directorate General of Telecommunications (DGT). 
Testing must be completed to the LP-0002 standard for low power devices by 
an accredited laboratory. There are laboratories in Taiwan, as well as some 
(perhaps only one?) recognized outside of Taiwan through the APEC TEL MRA 
or other MRAs.

The applicant for approval for most equipment must be a Taiwan company that 
holds a radio license.

Approved equipment must be labeled.


Singapore
Approval is issued by the InfoComm Development Authority of Singapore 
(IDA). Equipment must comply with the technical conditions of IDA standards 
(TS 14 for the RFID, TS SSS for the Bluetooth device), however IDA will not 
require testing of the equipment. They will review existing international 
test reports to grant the approval.

The applicant for approval must be a Singapore company that holds an IDA 
dealer's license.

Approved equipment must be labeled.


I hope this very basic information helps. By all means contact me off-list 
if you'd like to go into detail on products.

Best regards,

-Fred Borda
Compliance International



At PM 09:12 05/20/02 +0200, Kim Boll Jensen wrote:
>Hi All
>
>Can some one update me with information on the following:
>
>433 MHz SRD and Bluetooth product approval requirements in:
>
>Japan
>Korea
>Taiwan
>Singapore
>
>I need information on both EMC, Radio and Safety.
>
>Best regards,
>
>
>Kim Boll Jensen
>Bolls Raadgivning


Fred Borda
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SV: Emission Standards for Cell Phones and Antennas in Switzerlan d

2002-05-21 Thread h . knudsen

Dear David,

Switzerland recognizes the EU R&TTE directive, you may find the appropriate
standard at the list on:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/re
flist/radiotte.html 

Look for the emission requirements in the appropriate radio standard,
article 3.2 in the R&TTE directive.

Best regards 

Helge Knudsen
Test & Approval manager
Niros Telecommunication
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Dear All,
Does anyone know where I can find emission standards for cell phones and
cellular transmitting and receiving antennas for Switzerland. I have been
informed that the level acceptable in Switzerland is lower than the IRPA
standard.
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RE: Emission Standards for Cell Phones and Antennas in Switzerlan d

2002-05-21 Thread richwoods

Switzerland has adopted the RTTE Directive. In doing so, any CENELEC
exposure standards that address your products would be applicable for the
general public. Those standards are based upon the Council Recommendation
which in turn is based upon ICNIRP 1998 guidelines for exposure of the
general public.
 
Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International


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Dear All,
Does anyone know where I can find emission standards for cell phones and
cellular transmitting and receiving antennas for Switzerland. I have been
informed that the level acceptable in Switzerland is lower than the IRPA
standard.
Thanks to anyone who can help
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David Shidlowsky
Technical Writer
EMC Laboratory
ITL (Product Testing) Ltd.
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EFT Capacitive Clamp

2002-05-21 Thread Gibling, Vic

Hi to you all,

Referring to EN61000-4-4 Figure 7 General set-up for laboratory type test.
Two reference planes are shown. One along the bottom edge of the figure
which I believe implies a plane beneath ALL equipment shown - e.g. the floor
of a screened room - and a second plane specifically beneath the capacitive
clamp.

If testing is performed in a screened room, is the second reference ground
plane required?
If it is required should it be bonded to the overall reference plane ( it is
insulated from the overall reference plane by floor tiles)?
If not required should the clamp be bonded to the overall reference plane?

Your views and comments would be most appreciated.

Thank you

Vic Gibling
Compliance Engineer
Marconi Applied Technologies

 

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Emission Standards for Cell Phones and Antennas in Switzerland

2002-05-21 Thread IEEE-EMC User Group

Dear All,
Does anyone know where I can find emission standards for cell phones and
cellular transmitting and receiving antennas for Switzerland. I have been
informed that the level acceptable in Switzerland is lower than the IRPA
standard.
Thanks to anyone who can help
Best Regards
David Shidlowsky
Technical Writer
EMC Laboratory
ITL (Product Testing) Ltd.
Kfar Bin Nun
Israel
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Fax: +972-8-9797702
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Re: Radio approval i Japan

2002-05-21 Thread Fred Borda

Hello Kim,

Basic approval requirements for radio devices are as follows:

Japan
Approval is issued by the Telecom Engineering Center (TELEC). In addition 
to a detailed application procedure that must be completed in Japanese and 
according to TELEC's format, testing of the equipment is required either at 
TELEC or at an accredited laboratory. There are no such laboratories 
outside of Japan right now. Testing is to standards published by the 
Association of Radio Industries and Businesses (ARIB).


We were asked to look at a device for Japan not long ago operating in the 
433 MHz band and were told that the frequency was not available for that 
application. You should look into these specifics for your device (or have 
someone do it). Bluetooth should be no problem.


The applicant for the approval may be a foreign company.

Once the equipment is approved by TELEC it must be labeled accordingly.


Korea
Approval for radio equipment is issued by Radio Research Laboratory (RRL), 
which is organized under the Ministry of Information and Communications 
(MIC). The application procedure is handled all in Korean, and testing must 
be performed at RRL or an accredited laboratory. I don't know of any of 
these labs located outside Korea. Testing is to Korean national standards.


The applicant for the approval must be a Korean company.

Approved equipment must be labeled.


Taiwan
Approval is issued by the Directorate General of Telecommunications (DGT). 
Testing must be completed to the LP-0002 standard for low power devices by 
an accredited laboratory. There are laboratories in Taiwan, as well as some 
(perhaps only one?) recognized outside of Taiwan through the APEC TEL MRA 
or other MRAs.


The applicant for approval for most equipment must be a Taiwan company that 
holds a radio license.


Approved equipment must be labeled.


Singapore
Approval is issued by the InfoComm Development Authority of Singapore 
(IDA). Equipment must comply with the technical conditions of IDA standards 
(TS 14 for the RFID, TS SSS for the Bluetooth device), however IDA will not 
require testing of the equipment. They will review existing international 
test reports to grant the approval.


The applicant for approval must be a Singapore company that holds an IDA 
dealer's license.


Approved equipment must be labeled.


I hope this very basic information helps. By all means contact me off-list 
if you'd like to go into detail on products.


Best regards,

-Fred Borda
Compliance International



At PM 09:12 05/20/02 +0200, Kim Boll Jensen wrote:

Hi All

Can some one update me with information on the following:

433 MHz SRD and Bluetooth product approval requirements in:

Japan
Korea
Taiwan
Singapore

I need information on both EMC, Radio and Safety.

Best regards,


Kim Boll Jensen
Bolls Raadgivning



Fred Borda
Director
Marketing & Business Development
Compliance International
www.typeapproval.com
--
The experts in telecommunications equipment type approval
across the Asia-Pacific region
--
4713 First Street, Suite 280
Pleasanton, California 94566-7362 USA
Tel  +1.925.417.5571 (direct)
Fax  +1.925.417.5574
Mobile  +1.650.740.5762
fbo...@typeapproval.com



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