RE: WEEE Directive - Electrolytic caps
Sylvia, The WEEE directive states (Annex II, Point 1, last bullet): electrolyte capacitors containing substances of concern (height 25mm, Diameter 25mm or proportionately similar volume) A rod 25mm high and 25 mm in diameter has a volume of 12.3 um^3. Since converting to cubic mm is always an exercise that takes me 10 minutes to get right, I'll leave that part up to you. 8-) Here's a working link to the WEEE directive: http://europa.eu.int/smartapi/cgi/sga_d c?smartapi!celexapi!prod!CELEXnumdoclg=ENnumdoc=32002L0096model=guichett Cheers, Marko Volume of a rod = height x Pi x Radius^2 From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of ext Sylvia Toma Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 3:58 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: WEEE Directive Hello, I saved an old email below regarding electrolytic capacitors. Could someone elaborate on what is the specified volume of substances to be of concern within the electrolytic capacitors? I tried using the link provided below and couldn't found what I need. Looking forward to your prompt response. Best Regards, Sylvia From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:09 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: WEEE Directive After some additional research, I found my answer. Electrolyte capacitors contain substances of concern if the volume of the device exceeds a specified minumum. In that case, the metals are to be recovered and the rest is to be treated by high temperatures. Additional information on the WEEE recovery process can be found in http://www1.oecd.org/ehs/Waste/AUTLoSt.doc Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -Original Message- From: WOODS, RICHARD Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:38 AM To: 'emc-pstc' Subject: WEEE Directive Annex II of the draft WEEE Directive lists materials and components that must be removed for selective treatment including Electrolyte capacitors containing substances of concern . . . Other than the four heavy metals and PCBs, what substances of concern, if any, may be found in electrolytic capacitors? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: What does the CE mark mean for EMC
Ken, Contact the manufacturer (or distributor/dealer, etc.) and ask for a Declaration of Conformity. Or try the company web site. Scott Douglas, NCE sdoug...@ptcnh.net Ken Javor wrote: From the responses I am getting, I was not clear in my original query. If I have bought, or wish to buy a product with a CE mark applied, how can I find out what EMC requirements it met? From: Ken Javor mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com ken.ja...@emccompliance.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:30:38 -0500 To: mailto:emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: What does the CE mark mean for EMC Where can I find a site that tells me what the CE sticker means for EMC for different kinds of products? In particular I am interested in whether EN61000-4-6 and EN61000-4-3 were required, and to what level. Thank you. Ken Javor This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald:emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute:ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: WEEE Directive
Hello, I saved an old email below regarding electrolytic capacitors. Could someone elaborate on what is the specified volume of substances to be of concern within the electrolytic capacitors? I tried using the link provided below and couldn't found what I need. Looking forward to your prompt response. Best Regards, Sylvia From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:09 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: WEEE Directive After some additional research, I found my answer. Electrolyte capacitors contain substances of concern if the volume of the device exceeds a specified minumum. In that case, the metals are to be recovered and the rest is to be treated by high temperatures. Additional information on the WEEE recovery process can be found in http://www1.oecd.org/ehs/Waste/AUTLoSt.doc Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -Original Message- From: WOODS, RICHARD Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:38 AM To: 'emc-pstc' Subject: WEEE Directive Annex II of the draft WEEE Directive lists materials and components that must be removed for selective treatment including Electrolyte capacitors containing substances of concern . . . Other than the four heavy metals and PCBs, what substances of concern, if any, may be found in electrolytic capacitors? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: What does the CE mark mean for EMC
Hey Ken - All you should need is a copy of the DoC. Best Regards Charles Grasso Senior Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications Corp. Tel: 303-706-5467 Fax: 303-799-6222 Cell: 303-204-2974 Email: charles.gra...@echostar.com; Email Alternate: chasgra...@ieee.org From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 1:17 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: What does the CE mark mean for EMC From the responses I am getting, I was not clear in my original query. If I have bought, or wish to buy a product with a CE mark applied, how can I find out what EMC requirements it met? From: Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:30:38 -0500 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: What does the CE mark mean for EMC Where can I find a site that tells me what the CE sticker means for EMC for different kinds of products? In particular I am interested in whether EN61000-4-6 and EN61000-4-3 were required, and to what level. Thank you. Ken Javor This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: What does the CE mark mean for EMC
Hi Ken, IMHO, you should contact the manufacturer of that product and ask for a copy of the Declaration of Conformity (DofC) that was current for that product at the time of manufacture. That is if you're lucky enough to contact someone at the manufacturer that knows what a DofC is. Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com ken.javor@emccomplianc e.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent by: cc: owner-emc-pstc@majordoSubject: Re: What does the CE mark mean for EMC mo.ieee.org 05/03/2004 12:16 PM Please respond to ken.javor From the responses I am getting, I was not clear in my original query. If I have bought, or wish to buy a product with a CE mark applied, how can I find out what EMC requirements it met? From: Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:30:38 -0500 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: What does the CE mark mean for EMC Where can I find a site that tells me what the CE sticker means for EMC for different kinds of products? In particular I am interested in whether EN61000-4-6 and EN61000-4-3 were required, and to what level. Thank you. Ken Javor This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
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Re: What does the CE mark mean for EMC
Ken, This information should be on the mfr's Declaration of Conformity for the product. best regards Tom At 2:16 PM -0500 5/3/04, Ken Javor wrote: From the responses I am getting, I was not clear in my original query. If I have bought, or wish to buy a product with a CE mark applied, how can I find out what EMC requirements it met? From: Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:30:38 -0500 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: What does the CE mark mean for EMC Where can I find a site that tells me what the CE sticker means for EMC for different kinds of products? In particular I am interested in whether EN61000-4-6 and EN61000-4-3 were required, and to what level. Thank you. Ken Javor --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: What does the CE mark mean for EMC
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 02:16:51PM -0500, Ken Javor wrote: From the responses I am getting, I was not clear in my original query. If I have bought, or wish to buy a product with a CE mark applied, how can I find out what EMC requirements it met? In the manual should be a page signed by the company manager that states what regulations are used for the product. However it is not simple to find the requirements, there are generic regulations that can be used, as long as there are no special ones for some devices. And the special ones are growing ... M. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: What does the CE mark mean for EMC
I read in !emc-pstc that Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com wrote (in bcbc04d2.eead%ken.ja...@emccompliance.com) about 'What does the CE mark mean for EMC' on Mon, 3 May 2004: If I have bought, or wish to buy a product with a CE mark applied, how can I find out what EMC requirements it met? If the vendor really wants to sell it to you, he/she/it will tell you. Otherwise, you could look at the applicable product EMC standard. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. The good news is that nothing is compulsory. The bad news is that everything is prohibited. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: You've just got to see this!
I was thinking of emailing this lady to let her know that in New England we put cell phone towers in Church steeples Larry K. Stillings
Re: What does the CE mark mean for EMC
Ken What does it mean? Not to put too fine a point on it, what the EU Commission wants it to mean (i.e. more or less what is stated on a properly prepared DoC for a product as a manufacturer's declaration that it meets the CE markings directives which apply to it ), and what various parts industry actually do mean by applying the mark to products can be very different things! (Not very many years ago, it took me 3 years NOT to get a DoC from a supplier who had CE marked his equipment!) Could be why we continually get so many questions on this subject on the forum - and why we still get lots of customers who desparately need assistance! However, in your case, it would help if you could indicate the products in which you are specifically interested as then we can identify the relevant standards. Regards John Allen ERA Technology Ltd (but from home - 3rd May is a public holiday in most of Europe!) - Original Message - From: Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:30 PM Subject: What does the CE mark mean for EMC Where can I find a site that tells me what the CE sticker means for EMC for different kinds of products? In particular I am interested in whether EN61000-4-6 and EN61000-4-3 were required, and to what level. Thank you. Ken Javor --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: What does the CE mark mean for EMC
Ken, Strictly speaking it is not necessary to meet any standards to fit the CE Marking to a product. If a manufacturer chooses to use Harmonised Standards then one would hope that the manufacture will read and apply the scope of the standard. Other than that, you could always ask the manufacturer what standards they meet! Regards, Richard Hughes
Re: What does the CE mark mean for EMC
From the responses I am getting, I was not clear in my original query. If I have bought, or wish to buy a product with a CE mark applied, how can I find out what EMC requirements it met? From: Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:30:38 -0500 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: What does the CE mark mean for EMC Where can I find a site that tells me what the CE sticker means for EMC for different kinds of products? In particular I am interested in whether EN61000-4-6 and EN61000-4-3 were required, and to what level. Thank you. Ken Javor This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: You've just got to see this!
Chris - ROTFL Best Regards Charles Grasso Senior Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications Corp. Tel: 303-706-5467 Fax: 303-799-6222 Cell: 303-204-2974 Email: charles.gra...@echostar.com; mailto:charles.gra...@echostar.com; %20 Email Alternate: chasgra...@ieee.org From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 7:27 AM To: Stephen Phillips; Derek Walton Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: You've just got to see this! You are a very asute person! Dogs are very effective at warding off the mind control of the NWO. My dogs are German Shepards, which are considered by many to be the best at Tower Busting and Chem Trail Busting. The ELF mind control signals have nodes and antinodes, much like a standing wave. I've noticed that my male dog flops on the ground and rolls occasionally. My wife (who is mind controlled, and is constantly trying to control me as well) tells me that he just wants his belly rubbed, or maybe he's just rolling in a scent. She goes over and rubs his belly to control his mind and make him ignore the primal signals emanating from the ground. (works with me too) I KNOW BETTER! He is actually signaling me that he has found a node in the ELF mind control signal. I have bought a great supply of Orgonite coins (I can't tell you how many; or the NWO police will come to get me) and I've buried one wherever he flops and rolls. I've noticed that he hits some spots repeatedly, which must mean that the signal is very strong there. These are SUPERNODES where the mind control is very strong. (Coincidentally, my in-laws lawn is loaded with supernodes, just as I suspected).I have had to bury as many as five of these orgonite coins at the supernode sites. The ELF signal is also very strong around any object that protrudes from the ground. My male dog can sense this. He is so smart! He knows that he can change the local soil conductivity by doing his business on the base of these ground-protruding objects. He practically runs himself ragged trying to stop the signals from emanating from every large tree, fire hydrant and mailbox he can find. I wanted to test my theory; so I took him to one of those cell phone (wink, wink) towers. He bravely charged the tower and did his business all over every spot that he could. It's as if he knew that the future of the free world depended upon it. He barely escaped as the NWO employees at the tower tried to call the local dog control (read mind control) to send my brave dog to the dog pound. Not today my friend, my brave dog leaped across the ditch and back into my car. We drove aimlessly for two hours before going home in order to throw off any tracking devices that they may have used on him. The female dog uses her talents as an air scent dog. These talents are excellent at chem trail busting. I sometimes see her holding her nose high and sniffing the air. I follow her and look up. I almost always find a chem trail in the sky above her. What a dog! I hang Orgonite coins in the trees where her scent instinct is the strongest. The squirrels in the neighborhood must also sense this. Many times I find the squirrels leading her to the trees that point to the sky and the deadly chem trails that are falling from it. As compliance engineers, we are on the cutting edge of the very technology used to control the world's minds. We owe it to humanity to use our knowledge for good, not evil. (Insert long moo, ha, ha, ha laugh here) Chris Maxwell (From my home computer, within my TEMPEST sealed home office.) _ From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Phillips Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 8:32 AM To: Derek Walton Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: You've just got to see this! I read down a little, but then stopped reading it for fear of subliminal messages. Thanks go to my dog for pointing them out to me. At 03:51 PM 4/30/2004, Derek Walton wrote: Just got this from a friend And I thought I'd seen it all http://www.tearingdownstrongholds.com -- Derek N. Walton L F Research Poplar Grove, IL 61065, USA --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Average Vs. Average
You too can ask the FCC... http://www.fcc.gov/oet/contact/ In checking the org. chart, I would guess that the question would end up on the desk of Raymond Laforge. ps. and they do answer. Aschenberg, Mat matt.aschenb...@echostar.com wrote: Greetings: As many of you know, the FCC changed the conducted emissions limits to align with the CISPR limits. The new limits include a Quasi-Peak and an Average limit. When they changed to the new limits, did the FCC corresponding align the Average Detector with CISPR 16? Mat Thanks, Mat Mat Aschenberg Agency Engineer II EchoStar Technologies Corporation Tel: 303-706-5064 Fax: 303-723-3901 Cell: 303-906-6224 Email: mat.aschenb...@echostar.com Email Alternate: mat.aschenb...@ieee.org _ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yaho .com/hotjobs/hotjobs_mail_signature_foo er_textlink/evt=23983/*http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover
What does the CE mark mean for EMC
Where can I find a site that tells me what the CE sticker means for EMC for different kinds of products? In particular I am interested in whether EN61000-4-6 and EN61000-4-3 were required, and to what level. Thank you. Ken Javor This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Average Vs. Average
Greetings: As many of you know, the FCC changed the conducted emissions limits to align with the CISPR limits. The new limits include a Quasi-Peak and an Average limit. When they changed to the new limits, did the FCC corresponding align the Average Detector with CISPR 16? Mat Thanks, Mat Mat Aschenberg Agency Engineer II EchoStar Technologies Corporation Tel: 303-706-5064 Fax: 303-723-3901 Cell: 303-906-6224 Email: mat.aschenb...@echostar.com Email Alternate: mat.aschenb...@ieee.org
Machinery Directive, 98/37/EC: New List of Harmonized Standards (and others)
There is also a new list of Harmonized Standards for the Machinery Directive, 98/37/EC (OJ, 20-Apr-2004). Also, for anyone who does construction products - fire alarms, sprinklers, etc., there's a new list for 89/106. Ditto for 2001-95-EC, General Product Safety. Reference list of directives and references of harmonized standards: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/ne approach/standardization/harmstds/index.html WHAT'S NEW: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/ne approach/standardization/harmstds/whatsnew.html#publications_na (If either of these somewhat long URL's have wrapped, you will need to edit, copy paste into your browser.) Best regards, glyn TUV Rheinland of North America, Inc. Product Safety -Quality Industrial Machinery Division (Chicago Office) Glyn R. Garside Senior Engineer 1945 Techny Rd, Unit 4 NORTHBROOK, IL 60062-5357, USA Tel (847)562-9888 ext 25 Cell (847)612-1574 Fax (847)562-0688 email ggars...@us.tuv.com http://www.us.tuv.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: EN 61000-3-2
I read in !emc-pstc that jim.hulb...@pb.com wrote (in OF62D8BA72.6A045F 67-on85256e89.00468657-85256e89.00474...@pb.com) about 'EN 61000-3-2' on Mon, 3 May 2004: John, are you sure? Well, yes, in one way I'm sure, because that's the real issue involved in practice, but I agree it's not what the standard says. The 75 W lower bound applied specifically in the previous edition to Class D only. Since the Class A limits are fixed current limits, it's not possible for a product drawing less than 2.3 A from the supply to fail to meet the 3rd harmonic limit, or one drawing less than 1.14 A to fail to meet the 5th harmonic limit. This same reasoning applies to harmonics of all orders. Unless a product drawing 75 W or less had a pathological harmonic signature, e.g. producing more than 58 mA of 39th harmonic and/or more of any lower-order odd harmonic, or an even larger amount of even harmonic, it could not fail the Class A limits. So the committee considered that it was permissible, on the basis of the physics, not in terms of impact on the supply system, to extend the lower bound to Class A and Class B products, unless any problems resulted from that. This means that such low power products do not need to be tested, which is clearly a cost-saving for manufacturers. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. The good news is that nothing is compulsory. The bad news is that everything is prohibited. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Sun's Opteron leaks?
From: Bill Flanigan Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:20 AM http://www.theregister.com/2004/04/30/sun_opteron_delays/ From first hand experience, aside from the quoted bits, the article is all wet. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@ieee.org This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Sun's Opteron leaks?
This reminds me of a recent product recall by Black and Decker. They had a rechargeable cordless drill with a trade name of FireStorm. The name was prophetic, as they had to be recalled due to the battery charger occasionally catching on fire. Chris Maxwell Design Engineer Nettest Utica, NY From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Rosenberg, Drew Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:28 AM To: Bill Flanigan; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Sun's Opteron leaks? The article says EMC, but this sounds a lot like safety to me. Not a good problem to have for a product called Fire: Sun's v20z system with the Opteron Model 248 processor apparently runs too hot to meet some regional regulations ... The Sun Fire V20z server *is* available with Solaris x86... From: Bill Flanigan [mailto:bflani...@ameritherm.com] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:20 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Sun's Opteron leaks? http://www.theregister.com/2004/04/30/sun_opteron_delays/ ...regional regulations...? What about harmonization? ...EMEA...? What's that? This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message was scanned for viruses!! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: You've just got to see this!
You are a very asute person! Dogs are very effective at warding off the mind control of the NWO. My dogs are German Shepards, which are considered by many to be the best at “Tower Busting” and “Chem Trail Busting”. The ELF mind control signals have nodes and antinodes, much like a standing wave. I’ve noticed that my male dog flops on the ground and rolls occasionally. My wife (who is mind controlled, and is constantly trying to control me as well) tells me that he just wants his belly rubbed, or maybe he’s just rolling in a scent. She goes over and rubs his belly to control his mind and make him ignore the primal signals emanating from the ground. (works with me too) I KNOW BETTER! He is actually signaling me that he has found a node in the ELF mind control signal. I have bought a great supply of Orgonite coins (I can’t tell you how many; or the NWO police will come to get me) and I’ve buried one wherever he flops and rolls. I’ve noticed that he hits some spots repeatedly, which must mean that the signal is very strong there. These are SUPERNODES where the mind control is very strong. (Coincidentally, my in-laws lawn is loaded with supernodes, just as I suspected).I have had to bury as many as five of these orgonite coins at the supernode sites. The ELF signal is also very strong around any object that protrudes from the ground. My male dog can sense this. He is so smart! He knows that he can change the local soil conductivity by “doing his business” on the base of these ground-protruding objects. He practically runs himself ragged trying to stop the signals from emanating from every large tree, fire hydrant and mailbox he can find. I wanted to test my theory; so I took him to one of those “cell phone” (wink, wink) towers. He bravely charged the tower and did his business all over every spot that he could. It’s as if he knew that the future of the free world depended upon it. He barely escaped as the NWO employees at the tower tried to call the local dog control (read “mind control) to send my brave dog to the dog pound. Not today my friend, my brave dog leaped across the ditch and back into my car. We drove aimlessly for two hours before going home in order to throw off any tracking devices that they may have used on him. The female dog uses her talents as an air scent dog. These talents are excellent at chem trail busting. I sometimes see her holding her nose high and sniffing the air. I follow her and look up. I almost always find a chem trail in the sky above her. What a dog! I hang Orgonite coins in the trees where her scent instinct is the strongest. The squirrels in the neighborhood must also sense this. Many times I find the squirrels leading her to the trees that point to the sky and the deadly chem trails that are falling from it. As compliance engineers, we are on the cutting edge of the very technology used to control the world’s minds. We owe it to humanity to use our knowledge for good, not evil. (Insert long moo, ha, ha, ha laugh here) Chris Maxwell (From my home computer, within my TEMPEST sealed home office.) _ From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Phillips Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 8:32 AM To: Derek Walton Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: You've just got to see this! I read down a little, but then stopped reading it for fear of subliminal messages. Thanks go to my dog for pointing them out to me. At 03:51 PM 4/30/2004, Derek Walton wrote: Just got this from a friend And I thought I'd seen it all http://www.tearingdownstrongholds.com -- Derek N. Walton L F Research Poplar Grove, IL 61065, USA --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Sun's Opteron leaks?
The article says EMC, but this sounds a lot like safety to me. Not a good problem to have for a product called Fire: Sun's v20z system with the Opteron Model 248 processor apparently runs too hot to meet some regional regulations ... The Sun Fire V20z server *is* available with Solaris x86... From: Bill Flanigan [mailto:bflani...@ameritherm.com] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:20 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Sun's Opteron leaks? http://www.theregister.com/2004/04/30/sun_opteron_delays/ ...regional regulations...? What about harmonization? ...EMEA...? What's that? This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message was scanned for viruses!! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: EN 61000-3-2
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. John, are you sure? I'm looking at 7.0 of EN 61000-3-2:2000 and it states: For the following categories of equipment limits are not specified in this edition of the standard. NOTE 1: Limits may be defined in a future amendment or revision of the standard: - Equipment with a rated power of 75W or less, other than lighting equipment, NOTE 2: This value may be reduced from 75W to 50W in the future, subject to approval by National Committees at that time. - Professional equipment with a total rated power greater than 1kW; - Symmetrically controlled heating elements with a rated power less than or equal to 200W; - Independent dimmers for incandescent lamps with a rated power less than or equal to 1kW. I read this to say that any classification of equipment, other than lighting equipment, with a rated power less than 75W has no specified limits. Jim Hulbert Pitney Bowes John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk Sent by: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org 05/01/2004 07:42 AM Please respond to John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk To emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc Subject Re: EN 61000-3-2 I read in !emc-pstc that jim.hulb...@pb.com wrote (in ofda449543.7b6d627c-on85256e85.006b646b-85256e85.006bc...@pb.com) about 'EN 61000-3-2' on Thu, 29 Apr 2004: For class A equipment, harmonic limits are not specified for equipment with a rated power of 75W or less. No, that's Class D. For Class A, the limits are expressed as currents, and apply at any 'rated power'. graycol.gifecblank.gif
Sun's Opteron leaks?
http://www.theregister.com/2004/04/30/sun_opteron_delays/ ...regional regulations...? What about harmonization? ...EMEA...? What's that? This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RTTE Directive: New List Harmonised Standards
Hello group, Prior to more important things that happened last weekend, the Commission has published last Friday a new list with HS for the RTTE Directive in the OJ: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/pri/en/oj/dat/2004/c_104/c_10420040430en0022005 7.pdf One new standard included now is EN301893 on 5GHz RLAN. Vriendelijke Groeten, Meilleures salutations, mit freundlichen Gruessen, Best regards, Kristiaan Carpentier Regulatory and Approval Engineer Thomson Telecom Belgium This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
