Re: [PSES] FCC Labelling

2015-10-27 Thread Ghery S. Pettit 
The FCC logo is only used for products approved under the Declaration of
Conformity process.  It is not used for Certification or Verification.

 

Ghery S. Pettit

Pettit EMC Consulting LLC

gh...@pettitemcconsulting.com

 

From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:53 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] FCC Labelling

 

Dear colleagues;

 

I know this question has been asked before but would I be correct in stating
that under the FCC labelling requirements that if a product is deemed
compliant in the Verification category for an unintentional radiator that it
is not permitted to mark the product with the FCC mark but you must apply
the statement " This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC Rules.
Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may
not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any
interference received, including interference that may cause undesired
operation."

 

>From my understanding; in the unintentional radiator subpart only products
in the Declaration of Conformity or Certification categories can apply the
FCC mark to a product or its documentation.

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

Ian McBurney

Design & Compliance Engineer.

 

Allen & Heath Ltd.

 

 

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Re: [PSES] FCC Labelling

2015-10-27 Thread Rodney Davis 
I would also like to confirm and agree with Ian. He  is absolutely right.  I 
see many instances where verified equipment has the FCC symbol incorrectly used 
on products clearly not under the SDoC scheme.


This is in my view the most incorrectly used Regulatory symbol used today !


Rodney Davis


From: Michael Derby 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 8:06 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC Labelling


Hi Ian,



You are almost correct.   The FCC’s logo is only for devices which have been 
authorised under the DoC process.



Devices which have verification or certification, do not show the FCC logo.



Of course, if there is a mixture of authorisation routes and one of them is 
DoC, then the logo will appear.   For example, a device which has some 
certification and also a DoC, would show the logo.



The topic is included in a recent ‘New Proposed Rule Change’ document from the 
FCC for future change consideration; but right now it is only for use on DoC 
authorised devices.



Thanks,



Michael.





From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com]
Sent: 27 October 2015 11:53
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] FCC Labelling



Dear colleagues;



I know this question has been asked before but would I be correct in stating 
that under the FCC labelling requirements that if a product is deemed compliant 
in the Verification category for an unintentional radiator that it is not 
permitted to mark the product with the FCC mark but you must apply the 
statement “ This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is 
subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause harmful 
interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, 
including interference that may cause undesired operation.”



>From my understanding; in the unintentional radiator subpart only products in 
>the Declaration of Conformity or Certification categories can apply the FCC 
>mark to a product or its documentation.



Many thanks in advance.



Ian McBurney

Design & Compliance Engineer.



Allen & Heath Ltd.





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Re: [PSES] FCC Labelling

2015-10-27 Thread Michael Derby 
Hi Ian,

 

You are almost correct.   The FCC's logo is only for devices which have been
authorised under the DoC process.

 

Devices which have verification or certification, do not show the FCC logo.

 

Of course, if there is a mixture of authorisation routes and one of them is
DoC, then the logo will appear.   For example, a device which has some
certification and also a DoC, would show the logo.

 

The topic is included in a recent 'New Proposed Rule Change' document from
the FCC for future change consideration; but right now it is only for use on
DoC authorised devices.

 

Thanks,

 

Michael.

 

 

From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] 
Sent: 27 October 2015 11:53
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] FCC Labelling

 

Dear colleagues;

 

I know this question has been asked before but would I be correct in stating
that under the FCC labelling requirements that if a product is deemed
compliant in the Verification category for an unintentional radiator that it
is not permitted to mark the product with the FCC mark but you must apply
the statement " This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC Rules.
Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may
not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any
interference received, including interference that may cause undesired
operation."

 

>From my understanding; in the unintentional radiator subpart only products
in the Declaration of Conformity or Certification categories can apply the
FCC mark to a product or its documentation.

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

Ian McBurney

Design & Compliance Engineer.

 

Allen & Heath Ltd.

 

 

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[PSES] FCC Labelling

2015-10-27 Thread McBurney, Ian 
Dear colleagues;

I know this question has been asked before but would I be correct in stating 
that under the FCC labelling requirements that if a product is deemed compliant 
in the Verification category for an unintentional radiator that it is not 
permitted to mark the product with the FCC mark but you must apply the 
statement " This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is 
subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause harmful 
interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, 
including interference that may cause undesired operation."

>From my understanding; in the unintentional radiator subpart only products in 
>the Declaration of Conformity or Certification categories can apply the FCC 
>mark to a product or its documentation.

Many thanks in advance.

Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.

Allen & Heath Ltd.


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