RE: Australian RF lab
Try EMC Technologies at http://www.emctech.com.au/ Cameron O'Phee. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 -Original Message- From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com] Sent: 11 December, 2001 1:13 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Australian RF lab I am seeking recommendations for an RF test lab in Australia that can perform near field (30 cm) magnetic field measurements in the frequency range of 2-8 MHz. Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: Importing to Australia with a twist
Hi David, Use of the C-Tick is controlled be the Australian Communications Authority and information can be found at http://www.aca.gov.au/standards/index.htm. The application form is at http://www.aca.gov.au/publications/forms/rf10.pdf and the declaration is at http://www.aca.gov.au/publications/forms/rf8.pdf. Safety depends on whether the device is a declared article. Most declared articles are domestic products. Most IT equipment would fall under the voluntary approval scheme. More information on this can be found at http://www.tcaust.com/framwork.htm.Safety varies from state to state but is regulated by the Dept of Fair Trading in New South Wales. Compliance in one state assures compliance Australia wide. As others have said, good luck. Regards, Cameron O'Phee. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 -Original Message- From: Dave Heald [mailto:davehe...@mediaone.net] Sent: 20 September, 2001 2:19 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Importing to Australia with a twist Greetings all, I have an unusual question. Say my company was to sell an IT product to a North American or European client who then would place the product in Australia. We meet all of the EMC & Safety requirements for Australia and have documentation, but here is the difficulty: Does my company need an agent/representative in Australia, or would our client suffice for these purposes? Also, do I need to register or otherwise apply with Australia before applying the C-Tick mark? (I assume yes but have been unable to find contact information) Best Regards, Dave Heald --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: ESD Testing
Gaming machines in Australia are tested to 25kV air discharge and 10kV contact discharge. Gaming regulators are more concerned about intentional interference rather that accidental. I use 61000-4-2 as the basis for my test procedure even though the gaming machine requirements do not specify. Since all software lockups are required to be manually reset by an authorised person, we pretty much test for total immunity i.e., Criteria A. About the only thing that I let through is screen flicker and short duration drop outs in communications. In the US some regulators actually use a high frequency generator, used for testing the integrity of vacuum tubes, in lieu of a proper ESD simulator. These are uncalibrated devices and can be anywhere from 40 to 60kV. Therefore, after I have finished my precompliance testing with this device, it is a matter of crossing my fingers and hope for the best!! Cameron O'Phee. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: 14 August, 2001 23:56 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: ESD Testing Do any of you perform ESD testing at or above 15 kV to improve product robustness? I have the following questions. o What types of products o What type of user environment o What is the rational for testing above 15 kV o What test equipment is used above 15 kV o What test procedure is used above 15kV o What is the pass/fail criteria above 15 kV Thanks, Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall," -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall,"
RE: Australia Standards
Hi George, You could also try Testing and Certification Australia at http://www.tcaust.com/elecsafe.htm for some advise. As the name implies, they are a test house. Cameron O'Phee. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 -Original Message- From: geor...@lexmark.com [mailto:geor...@lexmark.com] Sent: 26 July, 2001 4:53 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Australia Standards I appreciate the many on-line and off-line reponses you provided! However, many have cited http://www.standards.com.au/ as the place I need. Unfortunately, I had already been there, done that, and it is merely the amazon.com equivalent for Australia standards. I don't need to order any standards, but needed to communicate with a real live product safety standards engineer relative to a limited number of external power supplies (AC/DC adapters) being used for test purposes prior to offiical AS/NZ certification. Sufficient information was received that I may be able to get the answer to my question. Thanks, George --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall," -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall,"
Australian power cable requirements.
Hi All, I have a situation where the test house I normally use for safety will accept SJT cordage for an internal power cable but a different test house will not. The power cable conducts 240v from one power supply to another, with both supplies internal to the machine. The second test house insists that the cordage must be H05VVF. Consequentely, I would like to know the difference in requirements between the US SJT cordage and European H05VVF. Regards, Cameron O'Phee. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall,"
RE: Risk assessment
Hi Stig, I have a copy of Croner's Industrial Equipment Safety which has a risk calculator which is based on a nomogram introduced in British Standard BS 5304:1988. The calculator has three input parameters, Probability level, Exposure Frequency and Consequences. The output of the calculator gives you a risk level. The consequences are categorised as follows, Category 1, Insignificant : Bruising, light abrasions etc Category 2, Minor : Cuts etc requiring first aid. Category 3, Major : Loss of consciousness, burns, (3 days off work)(Normally reversible) Category 4, Severe : Permanent disability, loss of sight, amputation, respiratory damage, (Normally irreversible) Category 5, Fatality : Including delayed effects. Category 6, Multiple Fatalities : Including delayed effects. The input parameters are arranged as three vertical scales with a tie line such that when you draw lines to link up your input assessments, the last line will point to the associated risk level. It's a bit difficult to describe verbally. Let me know if you would like more details. Regards, Cameron O'Phee. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 -Original Message- From: Stig Jorgensen [mailto:jorgen...@skyskan.com] Sent: 8 December 2000 7:25 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:Risk assessment Hi Group, Dec 07,2000 I am in the process of establishing the potential for an injury from a hazard. I can get a reasonable 'expression' to describe the potential for a hazard to turn into an accident (event). I am looking for the words that classifies the degree of an injury. Can some one direct me to some standard definitions? Do we base it on the length of work stoppage? i.e. a minor burn on a finger tip smarts for an hour or two. A good shock working with vacuum tubes, 300V, slowed you down for the rest of the day and so on. Has some one worked out a practical scale for the degree of an injury. It can be numbers or words as long as they are defined. If it does not exist let us generate one that we all agree on.-- or most of us. When it comes to property damage I think that a monetary replacement cost would be expressed in 'small', 'medium', 'large' etc where each is defined in 'very' general monetary terms. Thank you for your assistance. Sincerely Stig W. Jorgensen --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Ground potentials and communications.
Hi All, I believe there would be safety considerations when using non-isolated RS 485 for communications between machines that may be separated by large distances in a building and consequently be powered from different circuits/phases. The communication circuits ground is connected to the chassis ground of the machine. I am concerned that ground potentials between machines on different circuits could be enough to be a safety concern however the safety standard (AS3260) our equipment is tested to does not seem to cover this scenario. Any thoughts or information? Regards, Cameron O'Phee. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Surge testing.
Hi all, I would like to know if anyone could point me to any articles or studies of real world mains born interference that substantiate the need to test equipment for immunity to these phenomena. I want to convince an engineer from another company that the standards my company has chosen to adopt are not excessive. Regards, Cameron O'Phee. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Power Line Voltages
Hi Randy, Try this link. http://www.ets-tele.com/tics/global/volt_freq.htm <http://www.ets-tele.com/tics/global/volt_freq.htm> Regards, Cameron O'Phee. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 -Original Message- From: Flinders, Randall [mailto:randall.flind...@emulex.com] Sent: 5 October 2000 11:00 To: emc-pstc Subject:Power Line Voltages << File: Card for Flinders, Randall >> Greetings group! I am looking for a resource, preferrably but not neccessarily on the web, were I can get all of the power line voltages and frequencies for every country. This includes Europe, The Pac Rim, Autralia, Africa, Middle East, etc Can anyone direct me to this information? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Regards, Randy Flinders EMC Engineer Emulex Corp. r.flind...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Probing power plane with analyser
Thankyou to all those who responded to my probing question. My initial response to the engineer was to try and characterise the board using near field probes however he is intent on looking directly at the 3v power rail. Given this, my primary concern is with protecting the analyser. Since his frequencies of interest extend to 300MHz, the LISN is not much of an option. The testing will initially only involve A:B comparisons so I feel satisfied that it should be safe enough to proceed with the DC blocking capacitor method. Regards, Cameron O'Phee. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Probing power plane with analyser.
Hello All, I have been asked by one of our design engineers if I can measure the RF signature on the 3v plane on one of our PCB designs. The purpose of this is to compare it to proposed changes for cost reduction, ie removal of bypass caps. I would assume I need some sort of CDN but I have no designs for this application. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can safely probe a 3v DC power rail with an EMC analyser (HP8591E)? Regards, Cameron O'Phee. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Korean Requirements
Hello All, I would like to get some advice on what is required to have products approved for sale in South Korea. Our equipment has been tested for Safety and EMC to Australian and European requirements. The Australian test house that performs the safety testing can generate CB reports for safety. Contrary to the advice of the CB website, our agent in Korea has been informed that we would have to completely re-test our equipment for both EMC and safety. Is this correct? The standards that we are currently certified to are as follows, Australia Safety - AS/NZS 3260 EMC - AS/NZS 3548 Europe Safety - EN60950 EMC - EN55022 and EN50082-1 This is my first e-mail to the group and I have to say that this forum has been most educational. Regards, Cameron O'Phee. Technical Officer. EMC & Safety Precompliance. Aristocrat Technologies Australia. Telephone : +61 2 9697 4420 Facsimile : +61 2 9663 1412 Mobile : 0418 464 016 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
