Re: [PSES] SET EMC-PSTC NOMAIL
Med venlig hilsen Helge Knudsen Original message From: Helge Knudsen <0464c9eeb744-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> Date:14/10/2015 08:57 (GMT+01:00) To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] SET EMC-PSTC NOMAIL SET EMC-PSTC NOMAIL Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Helge Knudsen Holløselund Strandvej 11 3220 Tisvildeleje - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
[PSES] SET EMC-PSTC NOMAIL
SET EMC-PSTC NOMAIL Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Helge Knudsen Holløselund Strandvej 11 3220 Tisvildeleje - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
Re: [PSES] Low Power exemption for ATEX / IECEx
Maybe a clarification sheet for IEC 60079-15 is needed. Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: John Cochran [mailto:jcoch...@strongarm.com] Sent: 28. september 2015 03:31 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Low Power exemption for ATEX / IECEx In IEC 60079-15 Clause 13, Low power device or components are exempt from evaluation of creepage and clearance, as defined in Clause 6.4 of the standard. I designed a computer system which uses an i7 quad-core CPU module (COMe). The problem is the module draws 37W of power, and Note 1 in Clause 13 states Low power is typically considered 20W or less. The word typically bothers me, but also the fact some competitors have gotten their systems certified with a 45W i7 quad-core CPU. The notified body we are using is insisting that our CPU cannot be approved. Does anyone in the group have experience with certifying a higher wattage CPU module for international hazardous locations? Thanks, John Cochran STRONGARM Designs Ingen virus fundet i denne meddelelse. Kontrolleret af AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virusdatabase: 4419/10713 - Udgivelsesdato: 27-09-2015 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
[PSES] New LVD list in OJ
Hi list members, For your information, a new list for LVD in OJ today: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:JOC_2015_300_R_000 3 <http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:JOC_2015_300_R_00 03=EN> =EN Kind regards Helge Knudsen Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
[PSES] New list with Harmonised Standards for RTTE Directive 1999/5/EC and Low Voltage Directive 2006/95/EC
Hello all, On 17. April New list with Harmonised Standards for RTTE Directive 1999/5/EC and Low Voltage Directive 2006/95/EC were brought In OJ. RTTE: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:JOC_2015_125_R_000 1 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:JOC_2015_125_R_00 01from=EN from=EN LVD: Engelsk http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:JOC_2015_125_R_000 2 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:JOC_2015_125_R_00 02from=EN from=EN Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU
Hello Monrad, There are not any listings for the new versions of the EU directives yet. Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: Monrad Monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com] Sent: 28. februar 2015 01:25 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU Does anyone have a link to the latest list of harmonized standards for the EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU? The Europa web page I use to find the link for the latest listing of harmonized standards does not even list the latest revision directives. (http://www.newapproach.org/Directives/DirectiveList.asp) While the earlier revision directives are not repealed until 20 April 2016, these new directives published in 2014 have already entered into force and application. The latest harmonized standard listings I can find are below: * 16 May 2014 for Low Voltage Directive 2006/95/EC: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=uriserv:OJ.C_.2014.14 9.01.0033.01.ENG (Does not list EN62368-1 which was published August 2014.) * 16 January 2015 for EMC Directive 2004/108/EC: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=uriserv:OJ.C_.2015.01 4.01.0001.01.ENG Thanks. Monrad Monsen | Worldwide Compliance Officer Phone: +13032729612 | Fax: +13032724867 Oracle Compliance Engineering 500 Eldorado Blvd | Broomfield, CO 80021 Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] MIL-STD-462 July 31 1967
Hello David, Try here: http://wiki.dare.nl/wiki/images/c/c3/MIL-STD-462.pdf Front page is missing and maybe other pages too. Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: itl-emc user group [mailto:itl...@itl.co.il] Sent: 16. november 2014 06:01 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] MIL-STD-462 July 31 1967 Hi Can anyone tell me where I can find the above standard. I have been able to locate various revisions of the standard but not the 1967 edition. Thanks in advance Regards, David Shidlowsky | Technical Writer Address 1 Bat-Sheva St. POB 87, LOD 71100 Israel Tel 972-8-9186113 Fax 972-8-9153101 Mail e...@itl.co.il/dav...@itl.co.il Web http://www.itl.co.il/ www.itl.co.il - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] MIL-STD-462 July 31 1967
Hello again David, You can find notice 1 to 6 here: http://wiki.dare.nl/wiki/index.php/Mil_std http://wiki.dare.nl/wiki/index.php/Mil_std (notice 6 includes the front page to MIL-STD-462 1967) Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: Helge Knudsen [mailto:hknud...@mail.tele.dk] Sent: 16. november 2014 08:12 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] MIL-STD-462 July 31 1967 Hello David, Try here: http://wiki.dare.nl/wiki/images/c/c3/MIL-STD-462.pdf Front page is missing and maybe other pages too. Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: itl-emc user group [mailto:itl...@itl.co.il] Sent: 16. november 2014 06:01 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] MIL-STD-462 July 31 1967 Hi Can anyone tell me where I can find the above standard. I have been able to locate various revisions of the standard but not the 1967 edition. Thanks in advance Regards, David Shidlowsky | Technical Writer Address 1 Bat-Sheva St. POB 87, LOD 71100 Israel Tel 972-8-9186113 Fax 972-8-9153101 Mail e...@itl.co.il/dav...@itl.co.il Web http://www.itl.co.il/ www.itl.co.il - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] CE-magazine
Hi David, I think it could be from ce-mag.com. I have deleted all that stuf, maybe someone have it. Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: 28. oktober 2014 17:56 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine Hi David: Suggest you contact Stefan Mozar, President of the CE Society. s.mo...@ieee.org Best regards, Rich From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine Hi all, Im trying to track down an article from CE magazine from a few years ago. I had a link to it, but it seems their website is gone. Does anyone know if there is an archive available anywhere else online? Thanks, David Schaefer EMC Chief Technical Advisor TÜV SÜD America Inc Office: 651 638 0251 Cell: 612 578 6038 Fax: 651 638 0285 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] CE-magazine
Hi Chuck, Yes, see here: https://web.archive.org/web/20010118214400/http://www.ce-mag.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20010118214400/http:/www.ce-mag.com/ Br. Helge Knudsen Denmark From: Chuck McDowell [mailto:chu...@meyersound.com] Sent: 28. oktober 2014 19:58 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine Might I suggest searching the internet archive if you have a URL. https://archive.org/web/ 435 billion web pages saved over time. Chuck McDowell Compliance Specialist Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc. From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine Hi all, Im trying to track down an article from CE magazine from a few years ago. I had a link to it, but it seems their website is gone. Does anyone know if there is an archive available anywhere else online? Thanks, David Schaefer EMC Chief Technical Advisor TÜV SÜD America Inc Office: 651 638 0251 Cell: 612 578 6038 Fax: 651 638 0285 The mail and/or attachments are confidential and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email and/or attachments is strictly prohibited. If you were not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately by email at helpd...@tuvam.com and delete this message and all its attachments. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com NOTICE: This email may contain confidential information. Please see http://www.meyersound.com/confidential/ for our complete policy. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] Lists of EU Harmonized standards
Hi All, The lists with EU Harmonized standard has moved they can be found here: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/european-standards/harmonised-stand ards/ http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/european-standards/harmonised-standa rds/ Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] New list of harmonized Standards for LVD
Hello all, On 16th May 21, 2014 a new list of harmonized Standards for LVD was brought in OJ, see: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:OJ.C_.2014.149.01 .0033.01.ENG Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] RTTE Harm Std
Hi all, On 2013-10-12 a new list of harmonized standard was released in OJ, see http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2013:297:0001:003 1:EN:PDF Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] New list for the LVD Directive 2006/95/EC
Dear all, A new list of Harmonized standards for LVD Directive 2006/95/EC was published in the EU Official Journal today, see http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2013:255:0001:010 3:EN:PDF Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Conductive plastic
Hi Ken, You may use a resin from RTP Company , see http://www.rtpcompany.com/products/conductive/ Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ken Javor Sent: 27. juni 2013 06:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Conductive plastic Forum members: Am looking for a conductive plastic of such composition that the conductivity is uniform throughout the material, as opposed to a non-conductive exterior surrounding an inner core of dispersed conductive materials. Neither am I looking for some sort of deposited layer of conductive material. Many years ago, 3M demonstrated such a material at a few EMC Symposia. The demo consisted of a small plastic box with a lid that was large enough to fully contain a chattering relay. With the chattering relay in the box minus the lid and near a small AM radio, it tore up AM reception, but gently putting the lid on it (no fasteners per my recollection) was enough to kill the interference completely. My recollection is that 3M did not go into production with that material, else I would be looking for it there. The need is for a small conductive enclosure for harsh environments where a layer of deposited conductive material is undesirable. Further, I do not want a manufacturing process that requires laborious removal of the outer insulating material where the sides of the box overlap and need to make a conductive seam. I am willing to give up quite a bit of conductivity relative to a deposited layer of metal or metallic coating in order to get this magical homogenously conductive material. Any one know of anything like this, or is it unobtainium? Thank you, Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity
Hi Jim, As stated in the standard the text shall be included in the instructions if the device is class A equipment, you cannot omit the text. I believe the same applies for USA. Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hulbert Sent: 14. februar 2013 14:49 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity Thanks for the responses. However, this also brings me to a follow-up question. EN55022 in clause 4.2 states that for Class A ITE a warning shall be included in the instructions for use: Warning. This is a class A product. In a domestic environment this product may cause radio interference in which case the user may be required to take adequate measures. How binding is that requirement? Jim Hulbert From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Bill Owsley Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:30 PM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity A number of commercial products that I've worked on met the Class B limits with margin. But since they were commercial products, and were not marketed to the public, marketing stayed with the Class A compliance claims to avoid any confusion for the customs, which meant a sizable margin to the A limit!. Was it more expensive to make those margins to the limits? Just a bit, a lot more care in the layout took care of it. Generally two more layers did it, along with a few layout tricks. And being expensive commercial products with lots of $$ margin to start with, no real concern. And with those margins to the limit, go ahead and make some changes, they probably won't affect the DOC. _ From: Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:35 PM Subject: RE: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity The problem with emissions limits is their use to determine scope and applicability of other non-related directives and standards. Which is basis for some EMC reports that only indicate the equipment meets Class A limit, but the data demonstrates Class B performance. Dinosaur-like DNA found in chicken and turkey meals ? Probably why all unknown/exotic meats taste like chicken. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:17 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity Not on the DoC but in your EMC Assessment statement. It could hardly be a requirement on the DoC because that would have to be specified in the Directive. Not all standards have 'Class A' and 'Class B', and those that do don't all define them in the same way. -- SHOCK HORROR! Dinosaur-like DNA found in chicken and turkey meals - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com _ - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived
Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)
Hello Amund, Yes it does, see http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/documents/interpretation/index_e n.htm#h2-23 Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Amund Westin Sent: 30. november 2012 08:44 To: 'Nick Williams'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: SV: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) RTTE does not say anything about the language of the DOC, right? #Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sendt: 29. november 2012 18:06 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) A DofC must go with every unit. AIUI, the R+TTE Directive also requires this, and there are others which do the same. Nick. On 29 Nov 2012, at 16:18, Jim Hulbert jim.hulb...@pb.com wrote: From article 5 of the Machinery Directive, the manufacturer or authorized representative shall, among other things: (e) draw up the EC declaration of conformity in accordance with Annex II, part 1, Section A and ensure that it accompanies the machinery; Does the above mean the DoC must be supplied with each piece of equipment, or as John stated: One full copy should go with every shipment that crosses an EU border, or a Member State border...? Jim Hulbert - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)
Hello group, I would still use the model which is suggested for the RTTE directive, see: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/documents/interpretation/index_e n.htm#h2-23 If the directive defines that a full DoC shall be delivered with the product, I will deliver one in English and a sheet with a general in the EU languages as set up for the RTTE directive: Hereby, [Name of manufacturer], declares that this [type of equipment] is in compliance with the essential requirements and other relevant provisions of Directive /Number/EC. (repeated in the 10 other EU languages) If more than one directive shall be met, simply write Directives /Number/EC , /Number/EC . And deliver one full DoC for each directive if needed. Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Amund Westin Sent: 29. november 2012 15:38 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: SV: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) Some of ours DoC contain references to RTTE, MED and even CPD. Now ROHS must be included as well. With EUT product and manufacture information the DoC will be a full A4 page. With the new language requirements, we have to attach to each EUT approx 25 pages A4 sheets? . or what? Best regards Amund Fra: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sendt: 29. november 2012 15:27 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) EU DOCs are not what you would call a wordy document. Most of the text would not get translated anyway, such as manufacturer name, address, product models, references to directives and standards, etc.. There would only be a few lines of text that would need to be translated in 23 to 26 languages, such as Declares that the product: Conforms to the following The product herewith fulfils all relevant provisions of the It would seem likely that these translations have already been made by people out there if they would be willing to share it. The Other Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Nick Williams Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 7:24 PM To: Monrad Monsen Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs) There is a list of the official languages in the Commission Guide to the Machinery Directive, available here: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/mechanical/machinery/ See §246. English will not suffice - if the Directive says the Declaration needs to be translated, then it needs to be in one of the official languages of each state in which the product is sold. I'm pretty sure that failure to deliver the Declaration in the correct language(s) has been cited as a non-compliance in enforcement actions in the past, although only as one item among several - I'v e never seen it cited as sole reason for rejection. Nick. On 28 Nov 2012, at 20:43, Monrad Monsen monrad.mon...@oracle.com wrote: RoHS Directive 2011/65/EU, Article 13 (EU Declaration of Conformity) section 2 states: The EU declaration of conformity ... shall be translated into the language or languages required by the Member State on the market of which the product is placed or made available. This raises some questions: 1. What languages are required by the member states for translating declarations of conformity (DOCs)? 2. Would English suffice for a DOC? I would hope that any one language within the community would be acceptable for the DOC, and English would be the easiest language for American companies to use. 3. If a member state does want a DOC in a language other than English, would they the English version immediately and then allow the manufacturer time to translate the DOC like a period of two months? RoHS Directive 2011/65/EU becomes mandatory on 1 January 2013, so these questions are urgent. Monrad Monsen +1.303.272.9612 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com Nick Williams Director Direct line: +44 1298 873811
Re: [PSES] RoHS2 - Harm. Std List in OJ
Hello Ilan, The list is on the EU web site now, try again. Br Helge Knudsen Denmark -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ilan Cohen Sent: 28. november 2012 09:42 To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: RoHS2 - Harm. Std List in OJ Guys It is not showing up on the EU web site?! http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/european-standards/harmonised-standa rds/restriction-of-hazardous-substances/index_en.htm Ilan -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian Oconnell Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 9:10 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: RoHS2 - Harm. Std List in OJ Thank you sir, for this most unkind news. So we have formal report and data requirements, but no approved test method. The European regulators really need to get a life... So what will happen to EN62321 and IEC62476? Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Ron Pickard Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:38 AM To: EMC-PSTC (EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG) Subject: RoHS2 - Harm. Std List in OJ Well, it had to happen I suppose. FYI. On 23-Nov, the EU OJ published the first harmonized standards list for the new RoHS Directive, 2011/65/EU. It can be found at http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2012:363:0006:000 7:EN:PDF. There is only the following standard in that list: EN 50581:2012, Technical documentation for the assessment of electrical and electronic products with respect to the restriction of hazardous substances Best regards, Ron - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title
Hello Kris, About 10 years ago my company Niros Telecommunication was contacted by the Belgium Authority whom told that the DoC should be written in Dutch as well as in French and German. At that time we had a DoC written in English, German, French and Italian. We changed to a combination of a short form DoC and one complete DoC written in English. Short form in English: Hereby, [Name of manufacturer], declares that this [type of equipment] is in compliance with the essential requirements and other relevant provisions of Directive 1999/5/EC. The short form DoC can be found at the link below: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/documents/interpretation/index_e n.htm See 23. Form of the manufacturers' declaration to be put into the user's manual We used this form for DoC for the ATEX directive as well. Best regards Helge Knudsen Former Test Approval manager Niros Telecommunication Denmark -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Carpentier Kristiaan Sent: 18. november 2012 14:13 To: Nick Williams; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title Nick, My country, Belgium, has 3 official national languages, Dutch, French and German. The most recent draft of the Belgian transposition proposal of the RoHS Directive states now that the EU DoC should be drawn up in a language easily understandable by authorities. While the authorities have the right to request a translation in one of the official languages, it allows the use of English. Hopefull other countries follow that example as it worked well for 20 years. Best regards, Kris Carpentier -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Nick Williams Sent: zondag 18 november 2012 11:14 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title It's actually a requirement of some of the directives, not just an addition brought in by transposition in certain countries. Generally, where the Directive requires the Declaration to accompany the product, it must be translated in to the language of the country of the end user. I guess the Commissiion's logic is that the instructions will need to be translated into the same language(s) so it's not a significant additional burden to require the DofC to be translated as well. Nick. On 18 Nov 2012, at 07:56, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: In message 867f4b6a1672e541a94676d556793acd1b66ce1...@mopesmbx01.eu.thmulti.com, dated Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Carpentier Kristiaan kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com writes: Some countries require in their national transposition that the EU DoC is issued in the local language. Although most are still in draft: France in French, Portugal in Portuguese, Germany in German, etc.. In worst case, we have some 24 languages in EU, so lots of fun for translation. Now that IS a hardship for manufacturers. The way to deal with it is for manufacturers' associations to petition the Commission for a clarification of the 'reference' requirement to mean just EN X: - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] thermal resistance - K versus C
Hello Gary, In this relationship 1 K/W equals 1 C/W. As one example, see http://www.diffen.com/difference/Celsius_vs_Kelvin Br. Helge Knudsen Denmark From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of McInturff, Gary Sent: 9. oktober 2012 22:29 To: 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: thermal resistance - K versus C Thought I knew what I was doing, obviously I don't I have a device with a thermal resistance ThetaJA (J-P in this documentation). It's for SMT CHIP LED the specified value is 400C/W. for a plastic package that seems about right. I am looking at another LED but it lists ThetaJA as 400K/W. (Kelvin/Watt) Seems pretty good as it would convert to 126C/W - the lower the better. But then I converted the ThetaJS (I think its junction - solder point), and that value was 180K/W. When converted its -93C. Does the change in sign just indicate the direction heat is flowing? ThetaJA is positive since the heat is leaving the die through the package, and the ThetaJS is negative because it is heating entering the die through the solder process? Gary McInturff Reliability/Compliance Engineer Esterline Interface Technologies Featuring ADVANCED INPUT, MEMTRON, and LRE MEDICAL products 600 W. Wilbur Avenue Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815-9496 Office:208-635-8306 Cell: 509 868 2279 Toll Free: 800-444-5923 X 1238 mailto:brian.s...@esterline.com gary.mcintu...@esterline.com http://www.esterline.com/advancedinput www.esterline.com/interfacetechnologies Technology, Innovation, Performance... - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] EMC Standard Listings with /AC in the suffix
Hi Rich, This is just a corrigendum. You may get it for free if you make a search on the internet, search for EN55022:2010/AC:2011. Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Jones, Richard (Richard) Sent: 28. april 2012 13:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: EMC Standard Listings with /AC in the suffix Hi Everyone I was looking at the implementation date for EN55022:2010 and noticed that there was another line added underneath showing EN55022:2010/AC:2011 (new) Is this some sort of amendment, I see there are a number of standards with /AC on them . There is no implementation date either I'm sure there is an obvious answer, but I can't see it yet! Rich If it is an amendment what does it contain? Not that I'm cynical J but I've seen some which you pay serious money for and they're nothing more than a cover sheet! From: Helge Knudsen [mailto:hknud...@mail.tele.dk] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:59 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New RTTE and EMC listings Hi all, The text should have been: New lists of harmonized standards cited under the RTTE and the EMC directives was issued today 11th April 2012. Br Helge Knudsen From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Helge Knudsen Sent: 11. april 2012 18:11 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: New RTTE EMC listings Hi all, New lists of harmonized standards cited under the RTTE EMC directives was issued today 11th April 2012. See http://eur-lex.europa.eu/JOHtml.do?uri=OJ%3AC%3A2012%3A104%3ASOM%3AEN%3AHTML Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user
[PSES] US MIL-STD
Hi group, I use to have access to US MIL-STD trough ASSISTS-ONLINE at http://assist.daps.dla.mil/ http://assist.daps.dla.mil/ but this link seems to be out of service or not accessible any more, does anyone know where MIL-STD can be downloaded from? Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] New RTTE EMC listings
Hi all, New lists of harmonized standards cited under the RTTE EMC directives was issued today 11th April 2012. See http://eur-lex.europa.eu/JOHtml.do?uri=OJ%3AC%3A2012%3A104%3ASOM%3AEN%3AHTML Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] New RTTE and EMC listings
Hi all, The text should have been: New lists of harmonized standards cited under the RTTE and the EMC directives was issued today 11th April 2012. Br Helge Knudsen From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Helge Knudsen Sent: 11. april 2012 18:11 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: New RTTE EMC listings Hi all, New lists of harmonized standards cited under the RTTE EMC directives was issued today 11th April 2012. See http://eur-lex.europa.eu/JOHtml.do?uri=OJ%3AC%3A2012%3A104%3ASOM%3AEN%3AHTML Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] SRD for Japan
Hi Niels, Maybe this could help a bit. http://www.circuitdesign.de/compliance/japan2.asp Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Niels Hougaard Sent: 3. april 2012 16:48 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: SRD for Japan Esteemed list-members, Product in question is a transmitter for a pager, using 429,100 MHz and 10 mW. Transmitter holds no previously approvals. Problem is that the transmitter frequency is not within the limit of one channel (channel separation 12,5 kHz). According to what I have found the frequency band of 400 MHz should be for Radio Pager which is regulated by ARIB standard STD-19. This standard I have found but only in Japanese. Do anybody know if the frequency band of 400 MHz could be used for a pager, and if yes what are the limitation of transmitted power and channel separation? Thank you very much in advance Niels Hougaard Niels Hougaard Bolls ApS Ved Gadekæret 11F DK-3660 Stenløse Denmark T: +45 48 18 35 66 F: +45 48 18 35 30 n...@bolls.dk www.bolls.dk http://www.bolls.dk/ - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] New LVD listing
Dear John, I find the first htm reference very informative, if you look at the list of Harmonised standard you will find that the new standard references are marked with (new) in red colour. The second HTML is a link to the OJ for who may be interested. Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: 5. marts 2012 08:57 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: New LVD listing In message 000401ccfa9d$260bf8b0$7223ea10$@tele.dk, dated Mon, 5 Mar 2012, Helge Knudsen hknud...@mail.tele.dk writes: A new list of harmonized standards cited under the LVD was issued last Wednesday, 29th February. Thanks; these HTML versions aren't very helpful. However, there are links to the downloadable PDFs in various languages, in the row of small square boxes below the heading 'Publications in the Official Journal'. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK If 'QWERTY' is an English keyboard, what language is 'WYSIWYG' for? - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] New LVD listing
Hi all, A new list of harmonized standards cited under the LVD was issued last Wednesday, 29th February. See http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/european-standards/harmonised-standa rds/low-voltage/index_en.htm or http://eur-lex.europa.eu/JOHtml.do?uri=OJ:C:2012:061:SOM:EN:HTML Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] EMC and RTTE directive - out of scope because of power levels?
Hi John, Quartz Watches are exempted from the EMC Directive, according to the guide for the EMC Directive, see Guide for the EMC Directive 2004/108/EC page 14 - 15: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/electrical/files/emc_guide__updated_2 0100208_v3_en.pdf Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: 26. januar 2012 04:43 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: EMC and RTTE directive - out of scope because of power levels? In message 7b3d1875a9a53142ab5d421ee97d0e6003bbb...@ccsexchange.ccsdomain.ccsemc.co m, dated Wed, 25 Jan 2012, Michael Heckrotte michael.heckro...@ccsemc.com writes: Years ago I recall discussions about electronic wristwatches and FCC compliance; the power drawn from the watch battery was less than the output power of an emission that would just pass the Class B limit therefore compliance was inherent and no EMC testing was required. I don?t know if this was ever codified. It wasn't codified into the EMC Directive or the Guide, but it is a very good approach and would probably convince in Europe. I suspect it's not inconsistent with my suggestion that actual emission 40 dB below the relevant limit is a criterion for 'benign' that some would demand. Extending this concept to a radio would give new meaning to a flea-powered transmitter. Indeed, but EMC basically doesn't care whether the radiator is intentional or not (except on-channel, of course); what is sauce for the wristwatch is sauce for the radio. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK Some people who are peeling the finch of the financial crisis are thinking of biting a rook. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] RTTE - Alert Calss 2 identifier
Hi Tim, See the guidance in one the two Guides on: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/documents/guidance/index_en.htm From Quick Guide: Class 1 radio equipment Radio equipment which can be placed on the market and be put into service without restrictions. Class 2 radio equipment All radio equipment not falling into the definition of Class 1 Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Huang, Tim Sent: 21. januar 2012 02:27 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] RTTE - Alert Calss 2 identifier What kind of Radio equipment Class I looks like? SRD, Bluetooth, WiFi are Class I device? Regards Tim From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:58 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RTTE - Alert Calss 2 identifier Michael, The guidance is compact and very good. Thanks for sharing! Scott On 17/01/2012 5:38 PM, Michael Derby micha...@acbcert.com wrote: Hello, I'm not aware of any requirement for it to be on the DoC. Just the equipment, the packaging and the user manual. I find this labelling guidance document very useful: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/files/guidance/guidance_en.pdf Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: 17 January 2012 09:12 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RTTE - Alert Calss 2 identifier For Class 2 RTTE equipment, the Alert symbol shall be affixed to the equipment as part of the CE marking. I can't find any requirements that the Alert symbol should be included in the Declaration of Conformity document. Shall it be included in the DoC or not? Best regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http
Re: [PSES] RTTE - Alert Calss 2 identifier
Hello Amund, The Alert symbol shall also be affixed on the package, but not on the DoC. Best regards Helge Knudsen Denmark From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Amund Westin Sent: 17. januar 2012 10:12 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RTTE - Alert Calss 2 identifier For Class 2 RTTE equipment, the Alert symbol shall be affixed to the equipment as part of the CE marking. I can't find any requirements that the Alert symbol should be included in the Declaration of Conformity document. Shall it be included in the DoC or not? Best regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
RE: Pacemakers
Hello John, I do not think Cenelec TC 106X work with this issue: Scope (en) TC 106X deals with various aspects of the exposure of people to electromagnetic fields from 0 Hz to 300 GHz. http://www.cenelec.eu/Cenelec/Code/Frameset.aspx Insert CLC/TC 106X as Technical body and click on Run Report Click on CLC/TC 106X and you will have access to: Meetings Work program Environmental statement Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Helge Knudsen Direct:Â Â +45 44 34 22 51 Fax: +45 44 99 28 08 e-mail: h.knud...@niros.com Niros Communications A/S â–ª Hirsemarken 5 â–ª DK-3520 Farum â–ª Tel. +45 44 99 28 00 â–ª www.niros.com From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: 7. januar 2009 14:49 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Pacemakers In message 009d01c970cb$a4087720$ec196560$@dk, dated Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Niels Hougaard n...@bolls.dk writes: I am looking for the field strength that implantable pacemakers are designed to work perfect at. Frequency range in question is 10 - 50 kHz. This is a very complex issue, still under study in CENELEC TC106X. Someone at Danish Standards may well be able to give you the up-to-date situation. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Things can always get better. But that's not the only option. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
RE: EuP lot 7
Hi Don, Try http://www.ecocharger.org/finalised_documents.php Lot 7 seems to be finished. Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Helge Knudsen Quality Manager Direct: +45 44 34 22 51 Fax: +45 44 99 28 08 e-mail: h.knud...@niros.com mailto:h.knud...@niros.com Niros Communications A/S ▪ Hirsemarken 5 ▪ DK-3520 Farum ▪ Tel. +45 44 99 28 00 ▪ www.niros.com http://www.niros.com/ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Umbdenstock, Don Sent: 19. juni 2008 17:42 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: EuP lot 7 Does anyone know where I can find either a copy or a draft copy of lot 7? Does anyone know if discussions are still occurring on lot 7? Don Umbdenstock Manager Compliance Engineering Tyco Safety Products / Sensormatic 6600 Congress Avenue Boca Raton, FL 33487 USA Phone: 561.912.6440 djumbdenst...@tycoint.com mailto:djumbdenst...@tycoint.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: EMC Directive, RTTE Directive etc
Hello Luke, I will guide you: On the whats new page click on electromagnetic compatibility (if this is one of interest) Go a little down on the new page to Publications in the Official Journal: Here you will find a number of boxes, if you want the PDF file in English you must click on the box marked en. on the next page choose PDF. Best regards Helge Knudsen From: Luke Turnbull To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; h.knud...@niros.com Sent: 24-11-2003 19:34 Subject: Re: EMC Directive, RTTE Directive etc Anyone know where there are pdfs? Luke Turnbull Helge Knudsen h.knud...@niros.com 11/21/03 05:35pm Dear Group, I have just recognized new listings in OJ: RTTE: C271 of 2003-11-12 EMC: C271 of 2003-11-12 Medical Devices: C273 of 2003-11-14 And others Visit: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstd s/wh atsnew.html Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
EMC Directive, RTTE Directive etc
Dear Group, I have just recognized new listings in OJ: RTTE: C271 of 2003-11-12 EMC: C271 of 2003-11-12 Medical Devices: C273 of 2003-11-14 And others Visit: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/wh atsnew.html Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
SV: Standards process
Hi Group, You may download primer on Standards in pdf format free from: http://www.cenelec.org/Cenelec/CENELEC+in+action/News+Centre/Primer+on+stand ards/Default.htm Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com Fra: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sendt: 18. november 2003 21:25 Til: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Emne: Re: Standards process I read in !emc-pstc that Ablewisp - Compliance Engineers s...@ablewisp.com wrote (in ncbbihmocpcglbmhbpkpgefcdeaa...@ablewisp.co m) about 'Standards process' on Tue, 18 Nov 2003: Can anyone recommend a link or reference where I can learn more about the process of producing IEC and EN standards? CENELEC has produced a CD, 'Primer on Standards', which will probably tell you more than you ever needed to know. Go to http://www.cenelec.org take a large patience pill and search for the CD title. You MAY be able to buy it on line. Briefly, much of the work is updating existing standards, but a new proposal for a standard has to be approved by the national (standards) committees of enough countries. They, and others, then send 'experts' from industry (mostly), academia, test houses and sometimes regulatory organizations, to Working Groups (some have different titles). These groups prepare a draft of the new standard, which is sent to the national committees for comment. The comments are them considered and compromises, corrections and negotiations take place. This process may be repeated. Then, a final draft is circulated to the national committees for voting. If it passes, it is subject to a second voting process, and if that is passed, it is published. After a time period (3 to 12 years) specified when the standard is published, it may be withdrawn, amended or fully revised. Note that 'Brussels', the European Commission, 'Geneva' and IEC staff don't figure directly in the above processes. Most of the work is done by experts from industry, who do generally know what they are talking about, but often can't write it clearly enough, being engineers and not literary scholars. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
SV: Automotive directive
Hello Amund, I may be a little late, but have a look at http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/automotive/directives/vehicles/index.ht m, directive text. If you want the directive with figures, I can send it to you ofline in Graphical PDF format - 2.8 MB. http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/automotive/pagesbackground/technical_se rvices.htm, testing. and http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/automotive/pagesbackground/administerin g_authorities.htm, approval. I have used SP-Swedish National Testing and Research Institute for testing and Swedish National Road Administration (Vägverket)for approval. Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com Fra: am...@westin-emission.no [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sendt: 9. november 2003 19:39 Til: emc-p...@ieee.org Emne: Automotive directive Hi all, 1. A mobile digital TV receiver can be installed in a vehicle. I assume the EU Automotive Directive 95/54/EC apply, Correct ? But does the directive point to any standards that shall be used? 2. Does anybody know a Scandinavian authority who can issue an Approval according to Automotive Directive 95/54/EC? Thanks all! Best regards Amund Westin, Oslo/Norway This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
SV: 47 CFR Part 90
Dear David, As far as I know the latest version of 47 CFR Part 90 is from 1998, you can download the PDF file from: http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/cfr/1998/ Newer parts from 47 CFR can be found at: http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/cfr/1999/ Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com Fra: ITL-EMC User Group [mailto:itl-...@itl.co.il] Sendt: 28. oktober 2003 09:03 Til: Emc-Pstc Group (E-mail) Emne: 47 CFR Part 90 Dear All, Does anyone know where I can download the latest version of FCC Rule 47 Part 90 (47CFR90) in pdf format? I would prefer to download the whole part in one file. Thanks to anyone who can assist. Regards David Shidlowsky Technical Writer EMC Laboratory ITL (Product Testing) Ltd. Kfar Bin Nun Israel Tel: +972-8-9797799 Fax: +972-8-9797702 Email: dav...@itl.co.il http://www.itl.co.il http://www.i-spec.com This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender.
Rohde Schwarz Direction coupler
Hi Group, I have an old Rohde Schwarz Direction coupler/Reflektometer, type ZUP. Could anyone supply me with copy of the datasheet for this device? Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
SV: CDMA Product Approvals
Hello Alex, For Europe you may check for the appropriate standards for approval on http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/re flist/radiotte.html Check: * EN 50385:2002 Product standard to demonstrate the compliance of radio base stations and fixed terminal stations for wireless telecommunication systems with the basic restrictions or the reference levels related to human exposure to radio frequency electromagnetic fields (110 MHz - 40 GHz) - General public * To see if you need EIRP measurements, EN 50385 is on the list above. Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval manager Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Denmark Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com Fra: Alex McNeil [mailto:alex.mcn...@ingenicofortronic.com] Sendt: 15. august 2003 10:56 Til: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Emne: CDMA Product Approvals Hi Group, This is a technology I know nothing about (never heard off!) until my marketing friends emailed me the approvals question! What are the approval requirements for a product that employs a wireless CDMA module. I think I may be asking too much for worldwide standards (although it would be very much appreciated), Europe? N.America? I have also heard I need EIRP measurements? Thanks in advance for your expert help. Kind Regards Alex McNeil This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
SV: Swiss fees for RTTE notification
Hello Charles, BAKOM have always charged a fee of 200 CHF for notification. It is free in all other countries in Europe where notification is applicable. Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval manager Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Denmark Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com Fra: Charles Blackham [mailto:cblac...@airspan.com] Sendt: 13. august 2003 15:12 Til: emc-pstc Emne: Swiss fees for RTTE notification I sent BAKOM notification under article 6.4 of the RTTE directive for equipment using non-harmonised frequency bands. They have written back with the usual things about adding the (!) next to the CE etc, but also enclosed an invoice for 200CHF. Has anyone else had this? Is this new - I don't recall receiving them in the past. regards Charlie Blackham Approvals Manager Airspan Communications
RE: High Power Transorb
Hello Derek, Try General Semiconductor Industries or SGS-Thompson, They both have at lest 5 kW devices. Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval manager Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Denmark Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com From: lfresea...@aol.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: 07-07-2003 18:47 Subject: High Power Transorb Hi all, I'm looking for a high power transorb ( NOT MOV ). Currently the biggest I can find is 5kW. Can anyone point me to a higher power device? Thanks, Derek N. Walton Owner L F Research EMC Design and Test Facility Poplar Grove, Illinois, USA www.lfresearch.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
SV: VG95373 - advice needed
Hello Alan, There is no EN standard covering the same subject as this German Military standard, full title: VG 95373-15, Electromagnetic Compatibility-Electromagnetic Compatibility of Equipment-Part 15: Test Method for Coupling and Screening, Germany, February 1997. VG 95373 Part 15. This German military standard describes the shielding effectiveness of enclosures. The standard covers the frequency range above 30 MHz; between the frequency range of 30 and 200 MHz, a minimum antenna-to-enclosure separation distance of 2.5 m is specified. This distance can be reduced to 1 m for frequencies greater than 200 MHz. The test method specifies that a receiving antenna-which must be small compared with the enclosure under test-be built into the enclosure for the test. Although there are technical problems with this standard, it is currently the only standard applicable to small- and medium-sized enclosures. It is not surprising that the test method described in VG 95373 Part 15 (or variations of it) is used for shielding-effectiveness evaluation of small- and medium-sized enclosures and is favored by manufacturers of conductive plastic enclosures You may more information on the subject on: http://www.ce-mag.com/archive/01/Spring/Ogunsola.html Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval manager Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Denmark Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com Fra: Hudson, Alan [mailto:alan.hud...@amsjv.com] Sendt: 27. maj 2003 10:00 Til: EMC-pstc (E-mail) Emne: VG95373 - advice needed G'Day! Does anyone in this collective have working knowledge of a German defence standard - VG95373 Part 15? I'm been offered a cabinet which, for EMC matters, the manufacturer states meets VG95373 part 15. I don't really want to buy a standard (and spend hours studying it) for the sake of a one-time buy of one cabinet - does anyone here happen to know how well VG95373 part 15 compares with the usual EN standards applied for complying with Europes EMC Directive? (I suppose I'm asking that if a cabinet meets VG95373 will it pass the EN standard equivalent(s) and I can just say so in my Technical Construction file) Regards, Alan -- Experience: the wonderful knowledge that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
SV: ATEX Directive
Hello Lisa, You may find information on the ATEX directive on: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/atex/index.htm CENELEC is a european stadardization organisation, they do not approve any equipment: CENELEC = European Committee for Electrotechnical Standardization. CENELEC homepage: http://www.cenelec.org/ Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval manager Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Denmark Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com Fra: lisa_cef...@mksinst.com [mailto:lisa_cef...@mksinst.com] Sendt: 19. maj 2003 20:47 Til: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Emne: ATEX Directive Does anyone have any information on the relationship between the ATEX directive and CENELEC? Is it a replacement for CENELEC? Does compliance with one insure compliance with the other? Are they mutually exclusive? Any help or direction as to where to look would be appreciated. Regards, Lisa Lisa A. Cefalo, CRE Manager, Reliability and Design Services MKS Instruments 6 Shattuck Road Andover, MA 01810 (978)-975-2350 X 5669 lisa_cef...@mksinst.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
SV: EN 60215 / IEC215 Safety requirements for radio transmitting equipment
Hello Charles, Here is a copy of the Scope avalible on the Cenelec server, see: http://tcelis.cenelec.be/pls/portal30/C LISPROC.RPT_V_PROJECTS_DESC_D_ALIVE.SHOW?p_arg_names=project_number http://tcelis.cenelec.be/pls/portal30/ ELISPROC.RPT_V_PROJECTS_DESC_D_ALIVE.SH W?p_arg_names=project_numberp_arg_values=2804 p_arg_values=2804. EN 60215 is lister on the latest harmonoztion lists for the LVD directive and the RTTE directive, see: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/ne approach/standardization/harmstds/whatsnew.html#tabpuboj Title (EN) Safety requirements for radio transmitting equipment Title (DE) Sicherheitsbestimmung für Funksender Title (FR) Règles de sécurité applicables aux matériels d'émission radioélectrique Scope (EN) Applies to radio transmitting equipment operating under the responsibility of skilled personnel and deals with protection against electric shock, skin burns, high temperature and fire, implosion and explosion, harmful radiation and miscellaneous hazards. Includes design and construction requirements and test methods to ensure -safety of personnel, when the equipment is operating under conditions of normal use and certain fault conditions, when carrying out adjustments, during fault finding, and repair of the equipment; -prevention of fire and its spread. Scope (DE) - Scope (FR) S'applique aux matériels d'émission radioélectrique exploités sous la responsabilité d'un personnel qualifié et traite de la protection contre les chocs électriques, les brûlures, les températures élevées, le feu, les implosions et explosions, les rayonnements dangereux et les dangers divers. Comprend les règles de conception et de construction et des méthodes de mesure afin d'assurer: - la sécurité du personnel, lorsque le matériel fonctionne dans les conditions normales d'emploi, ainsi que certaines conditions de dérangement, lors des réglages, de la recherche de défauts et de réparation du matériel; - la prévention du feu et de sa propagation. Comprend les principaux chapitres de CEI 284 Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval manager Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Denmark Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com Fra: Charles Blackham [mailto:cblac...@airspan.com] Sendt: 15. maj 2003 14:27 Til: emc-pstc Emne: EN 60215 / IEC215 Safety requirements for radio transmitting equipment Dear Group I'm being asked to confirm on a customer tender document whether we comply with IEC215. Looking at the Official Journal this standard is no longer valid for declaring compliance with the LVD. Our equipment meets the relevant safety requirements of EN60950 for electrical safety and EN50383 for SAR. Is IEC215 a standard for broadcast equipment? - could anyone confirm its scope for me. Best regards Charlie Blackham Approvals Manager Airspan Communications Ltd
RE: EN 60601-1-2/ EN 55022: 1998
Hello David, Regarding EN 55022: 1998 + Amendment A1: 2000 are to become effective 1. August 2003, see latest OJ-list at http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/wh atsnew.html Best regards Helge Knudsen Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Denmark Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com From: ITL-EMC User Group To: Emc-Pstc Group (E-mail) Sent: 05-01-2003 06:46 Subject: EN 60601-1-2/ EN 55022: 1998 Dear All, I have read in various places that the new edition of IEC/EN 60601-1-2 is in effect (FDA in the US). As yet, only EN 60601-1-2: 1993 is listed in the OJ (December 2002). Does anyone know when the new edition will be listed in the OJ and thus become official? Regarding EN 55022: 1998 + Amendment A1: 2000, I have also read that the application of this standard is being delayed. Does anyone have any information as to when it will become applicable? Thanks David Shidlowsky Technical Writer EMC Laboratory ITL (Product Testing) Ltd. Kfar Bin Nun Israel Tel: +972-8-9797799 Fax: +972-8-9797702 Email: dav...@itl.co.il http://www.itl.co.il http://www.i-spec.com This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
New Proposal for change of EU EMC Directive
Happy New Year to you all. Proposal for a DIRECTIVE OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to electromagnetic compatibility is available at: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/com/pdf/2002/com2002_0759en01.pdf Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval manager Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Denmark Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
SV: Poland
Hello Bill, John maybe right about you shall avoid use of EN 50178 from Cenelec if you can, but it is on the EU harmonisation list for the Low Voltage Directive, see scope and titel(s) below; found at http://www.cenelec.org/BASIS/celis/free/project/SF http://www.cenelec.org/BASIS/celis/free/project/SF , just write 50178 in standard reference field and click OK at buttom. Title (EN) Electronic equipment for use in power installations Title (FR) Equipement électronique utilisé dans les installations de puissance Title (DE) Ausrüstung von Starkstromanlagen mit elektronischen Betriebsmitteln Scope (EN) This European Standard applies to the use of electronic equipment (EE) in power installations where a uniform technical level with respect to safety and reliability is necessary. This standard also applies to EE which are not covered by a specific product standard. This European Standard defines the minimum requirements for the design and manufacture of EE, for protection against electric shock, for testing and its integration into systems for power installations. This European Standard does not cover the following applications: Electrical accessories and electrical appliances for household and similar purposes, medical equipment, electric railway equipment, data processing without control on systems and processes, public and private non-industrial telecommunication and radio communication equipment and networks, protection relays, residual-current-operated protective devices, uninterruptible power supplies, lighting equipment and public charging equipment for electrical vehicles Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval manager Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Denmark Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bill Wilson [mailto:wwwil...@rcn.com] Sendt: 17. december 2002 22:27 Til: Treggers Emne: Poland Hi Treggers, Can anyone out there help me with requirements for Industrial/Motor Control Equipment in Poland and what is EN50178? Thanks, Bill Bill Wilson W.W.Wilson Associates 508-651-1388 wwwil...@rcn.com mailto:wwwil...@rcn.com www.wwwilsonassoc.com http://www.wwwilsonassoc.com
EMCD + RTTED - OJEC publication consolidated list of harmonised standards
Hello all, New lists of harmonised standard for EMC directive and RTTE directive was published on 7th December, can be found at: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/oj/2002/c_30420021207en.html Best regards Helge Knudsen Test Approval manager Niros Telecommunication Hirsemarken 5 DK-3520 Farum Denmark Tel +45 44 34 22 51 Fax +45 44 99 28 08 email h.knud...@niros.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Ethernet 100Base-T
Hello Zohar, Try CISPR 24 (or EN 55024 for CE marking) CISPR 24, Table 2 - Immunity, signal ports and telecommunication ports, 1.5 kV Common mode for outdoor cables, 4 kV if primary protection is installed. 10/700 pulse. EN 55024, Table 2 - Immunity, signal ports and telecommunication ports, 1 kV Common mode for outdoor cables, note if normal functioning canot be achieved because of the impact of the CDN on the EUT, no test shall be required. 1.2/50 pulse. Best regards Helge Knudsen Test and Approval Niros Telecommunication A/S Denmark h.knud...@niros.com -- From: Zohar Zosmanovich[SMTP:zohar_zosmanov...@radwin.com] Reply To: Zohar Zosmanovich Sent: mandag, januar 29, 2001 10:31 To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject:Ethernet 100Base-T Hi to all, I need some help in finding surge requirements for Outdoor Ethernet 100Base-T line (except from what described in EN 300 386). The Ethernet line connected between inside building and outside. I will appreciate any input regarding this subject. I'm trying to get the IEEE 802.3U. Is that the right source ? Thank Zohar (Jana) Zosmanovich Compliance Engineer, RADWIN ltd. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Basic Standards
Hello Don and other interested members of EMC ESPC, Basic standards are not harmonized in EU, therefore there is not published a list. It is however possible to see the status of a specific standard by searching on the Cenelec homepage, try: http://www.cenelec.org/BASIS/celis/free/project/SF Here the magic date dow is given, this is the date when the new standard or amendment shall be used. The new standard or amendment may by used from the dop date. It should however be noted, that this date only have effect if the basic standard reference is undated in the specific product standard. If the basic standard reference is given as EN 61000-4-4:1995, then it is only this version which is valid until the product standard is changed. Best regards Helge Knudsen Test and Approval Niros Telecommunication Denmark h.knud...@niros.com -- From: umbdenst...@sensormatic.com[SMTP:umbdenst...@sensormatic.com] Reply To: umbdenst...@sensormatic.com Sent: fredag, januar 12, 2001 21:37 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:Basic Standards Colleagues, I can find references on the web to harmonized standards, but I have not found a reference to a list of basic standards, such as EN 61000-4-x. I am trying to find a source that will indicate what the latest acceptable revision is. I am sure it's out there -- I just keep missing it. Can someone point me to such a source? Best regards, Don Umbdenstock Sensormatic Electronics Corporation --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Vedr.: ITE Emissions above 1 GHz
Hello Richard, Is the device a blue tooth using wireless radiation to communicate with other devices, if yes the device is a subjet for the RTTE directive. You may use the ETSI standards: EN 301 489-3 V1.2.1 (2000-08) Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio spectrum Matters (ERM); ElectroMagnetic Compatibility (EMC) standard for radio equipment and services; Part 3: Specific conditions for Short-Range Devices (SRD) operating on frequencies between 9 kHz and 40 GHz and EN 300 440-2 V1.1.1 (2000-07) Electromagnetic compatibility and Radio spectrum Matters (ERM); Short range devices; Radio equipment to be used in the 1 GHz to 40 GHz frequency range; Part 2: Harmonized EN under article 3.2 of the RTTE Directive Those standards may be downloaded free of charge from www.etsi.org. NOTE:They are not harmonized yet! If it not is used for wireless communication then the EN 55022 still shall be used for showing complience with the EMC Directive. Best regards Helge Knudsen Delta Electronics Testing, EMC Venlighedsvej 4, DK-2970 Hoersholm Telephone : +45 45 86 77 22 Fax : +45 45 86 58 98 wo...@sensormatic.com 15-11-00 22:10 I have an Information Technology device that intentionally generates and uses 2.45 GHz signals. EN55022 does not provide limits above 1 GHz. Is there another harmonized EN that can be applied for spurious emissions above 1 GHz? If not, will this product have to be submitted to a Competent Body? Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Vedr.: Re: EN55011 Group 1 and Group 2
Hello Bruce and EMC-ESPC Group, The latest draft on next edition of (EN/) IEC 61800-3 is using the CISPR 11 Class A group 2 limits for power drive systems to be used in Second environment = Industrial use. The radiated emission limits are 40 dB from 30 - 230 MHz and 50 dB from 230 - 1000 MHz with 30 meter measuring distance. Those limits are derived from CISPR, 11 Table 5 - Electromagnetic radiation disturbance limits for Group 2 Class A equipment. So, someone (producers of power drive system?) do want to use at least a part of the CISPR 11 Group 2 Class A test for power drives. If some of you are interested in reading this new proposal you must get from your local IEC Committee, document reference: IEC/22G/73/CD. Best regards Helge Knudsen Delta Electronics Testing, EMC Venlighedsvej 4, DK-2970 Hoersholm Telephone : +45 45 86 77 22 Fax : +45 45 86 58 98 bfag...@us.tuv.com 15-11-00 06:07 Since there are no comments on this so far, I thought I would put my 2 cents in.It seems to me that motor drives would be in group 1, keeping in mind the first paragraph of appendix A where it says for testing purposes the equipment is to be defined in terms of the purpose for which it was designed Also, I believe the power drive system product family EMC standard, EN 61800-3:1996 uses limits similar to EN 55011 group 1(I don't have this standard in front of me so please correct me if I'm wrong.) I'm also curious why someone would want want to be in group 2 because this requires an additional magnetic field (table 5 of EN 55011) test down to 150khz that could be difficult for Power inverters. Bruce Fagley Sr. Specialist, in-situ EMC TUV Rheinland Newtown CT. 203-426-0888 ext 119 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
SLIM Draft 5
Hello group, Those of you who are want a official PDF copy of the latest SLIM Draft may download it from: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/slim/review.htm Best regards Helge Knudsen Delta Electronics Testing, EMC Venlighedsvej 4, DK-2970 Hoersholm Telephone : +45 45 86 77 22 Fax : +45 45 86 58 98 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: CISPR 22 am1 2000
Hello Cyril, CISPR 22/A1 address Subclause 10.4: Equipment set-up, Table top equipment: Main cable and cables connected to remote peripheral shall be fitted with ferrite clamps or tupes where the cable reaches the floor. Insertion loss 15 dB from 30 to 1000 MHz when measured in a 50 ohm system. This amendmend is expected to make measurement easier to reproduce. Best regards Helge Knudsen EMC Department DELTA Electronics Testing, EMC Venlighedsvej 4, DK-2970 Hoersholm Telephone : +45 45 86 77 22 Fax : +45 45 86 58 98 Email : h...@delta.dk -- From: Binnom, Cyril A[SMTP:binno...@ems-t.com] Reply To: Binnom, Cyril A Sent: tirsdag, oktober 24, 2000 15:02 To: emc-pstc Subject:CISPR 22 am1 2000 Group, Is anybody aware of this new amendment, that could offer me a brief detail of what it entails. Any help will be appreciated. Cyril A. Binnom Jr. EMI/EMC Approvals Engineer LXE, Inc. (770) 447-4224 Ext. 3240 (770) 447-6928 Fax Visit Our Website at: http://www.lxe.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Re.: ENV standards
Hello Amund, Acording to the Cenelec year 2000 Cataloque, issue 2, those ENV's are withdrawn, text from cataloque: ENV 50140 Superseded by EN 61000-4-3:1996 ENV 50141 Superseded by EN 61000-4-6:1996 ENV 50142 Withdrawn Best regards Helge Knudsen DELTA EMC Testing Venlighedsvej 4, DK-2970 Hoersholm Telephone: +45 45 86 77 22 Fax: +45 45 86 58 98 Email: h...@delta.dk Webpage: www.delta.dk --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
EN 61000-3-2/A14
Hello group EN 61000-3-2/A14 was ratificated 2000-10-03 with the following dates: dor: 2000-10-03 doa: 2000-12-01 dop: 2001-01-01 dow: 2004-01-01 It is expected that the amendment will be announced in Official Journal before 2001-01-01. Best regards Helge Knudsen Jyske EMC Denmark --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Vedr.: ENV 50204
Hi Richard and Group, IEC/EN 61000-4-3/A1 is dealing with Radiated electromagnetic field from digital radio telephones, but ENV 50204 is not withdrawn yet. I beleive this will happen on dow for EN 61000-4-3/A1: 2001-05-01. Regards Helge Knudsen EMC Engineer Jyske EMC Literbuen 16B DK 2740 Skovlunde Denmark wo...@sensormatic.com 05-09-00 20:20 The Generic Immunity standard, EN 50082-1 references ENV 50204 for a radiated immunity test. The foreword of the ENV says it will be withdrawn once an IEC/CENELEC standard has been published. Has this interim standard been withdrawn and replaced by an EN 61000-4 series standard? If so, which one? Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: About 89/336/EEC
Hello Tetsuya, The publication in OJ on 1999/02/27 was not a new directive, it was a list of those standards which may be used to demonstrate compliance with the EMC Directive, 89/336/EEC. The EMC Directive does not cover medical devices since June 1998, you have to use the Medical Device Directive 93/42/EEC, therefore EN 60601-1-2 is removed from this new list. A list of those standards, which could be used for medical devices, can be found on the DGIII page: http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3b/newapproa/eurstd/harmstds/wh atsnew.html. You can find EN 60601-1-2 on the list by clicking on medical devices Best regards Helge Knudsen Jyske EMC Denmark -Original Message- From: Tetsuya Hashimoto [SMTP:has...@a-pex.co.jp] Sent: mandag, marts 29, 1999 12:07 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:About 89/336/EEC Hello! 89/336/EEC is published at OJ on 1999/02/27. This new directive is not include EN60601-1-2(Medical):1993. Anyone tell me what is this mean? What standard do I need to test for medical device? Tetsuya Hashimoto A-pex International Co.,Ltd. 2nd EMC Division Yokowa Lab E-mail: has...@a-pex.co.jp - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: IEC 601-1-2 Second Edition
Hello 'rehel...@mmm.com', You may find the information at www.iec.ch. I send the page with this mail. Best regards Helge Knudsen Jyske EMC Denmark -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [SMTP:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: tirsdag, december 08, 1998 10:53 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:IEC 601-1-2 Second Edition Can anyone provide me with the status of IEC 601-1-2/Ed.2? Thank you. - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).t/THTHDate/THTHTarget Date/TH/TR TRTDPNW/TDTDA = HREF=3D/cgi-bin/procgi.pl/www/iecwww.p?wwwlang=3DEwwwprog=3Ddoc-det.pw= com=3D62Awclass=3DSec.wdoc=3D157wsup=3D62A(Sec.)157/NP/A/TDTD1= 0 June 1994/TDTD /TD/TR TRTDANW/TDTDA = HREF=3D/cgi-bin/procgi.pl/www/iecwww.p?wwwlang=3DEwwwprog=3Ddoc-det.pw= com=3D62Awclass=3Dwdoc=3D169wsup=3D62A/169/RVN/A/TDTD7 = October 1994/TDTD /TD/TR TRTD1CD/TDTDA = HREF=3D/cgi-bin/procgi.pl/www/iecwww.p?wwwlang=3DEwwwprog=3Ddoc-det.pw= com=3D62Awclass=3Dwdoc=3D206wsup=3D62A/206/CD/A/TDTD5 July = 1996/TDTD31 January 1996/TD/TR TRTDA2CD/TDTDA = HREF=3D/cgi-bin/procgi.pl/www/iecwww.p?wwwlang=3DEwwwprog=3Ddoc-det.pw= com=3D62Awclass=3Dwdoc=3D235wsup=3D62A/235/CC/A/TDTD25 July = 1997/TDTD31 July 1997/TD/TR TRTD2CD/TDTDA = HREF=3D/cgi-bin/procgi.pl/www/iecwww.p?wwwlang=3DEwwwprog=3Ddoc-det.pw= com=3D62Awclass=3Dwdoc=3D247wsup=3D62A/247/CD/A/TDTD6 March = 1998/TDTD30 September 1997/TD/TR TRTDA3CD/TDTDA HREF=3D/A/TDTD /TDTD31 August = 1998/TD/TR /TABLEReturn to A HREF=3D#TOPtop/A H3A NAME=3DWGWORKING GROUPS : /A/H3ULLI13/LI /ULReturn to A HREF=3D#TOPtop/A H3A NAME=3DAssASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS : /A/H3 62A/197/RMUL LI62A/243/RM/LI /ULReturn to A HREF=3D#TOPtop/A H3A NAME=3DOldOLD INFORMATION : /A/H3BR DOC : 62A(Sec.)157BR PREV/DOC/E : BR /ULReturn to A HREF=3D#TOPtop/A BR BRFONT SIZE=3D-1EMWeb page generated: 8 December =
RE: Doubt on LISN utilization
Dear group, The use of ground choke in conducted measurements was specified in Verfügerung 1046/1982 when testing to comply with VDE 0871 if the measured noise was closer to the limit than 5 dB. This second measurement must then also comply with the limit. The value of this ground conductor choke was specified to 1.6 mH. I believe the reason for this sophisticated measurement were required because the inductance in ground lead in really live may increase the noise level with several dB's. I hope this clarified the matter. Best regards Helge Knudsen Jyske EMC Denmark hknud...@jyske-emc.com -Original Message- From: Cortland Richmond [SMTP:72146@compuserve.com] Sent: lørdag, december 05, 1998 05:43 To: Gary McInturff; ieee pstc list Subject:RE: Doubt on LISN utilization As I recall, when testing conducted emissions to VDE 0871, it was required to observe noise in the two powered lines with the switch both open and closed, and use the higher result. Some power supplies would in fact give different results if the ground was opened. An aside: I used to work at Tandy Computer's RD. When Tandy quit making computers (and I was laid off), I was able to buy a Rhode and Schwarz LISN they scrapped -- for $25. It has the ground switch Muriel describes. When I bought it for Tandy, it cost much, much more! Cortland - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: EN60950
Hello Daniel, You may buy the Cenelec EN 60950 from American National Standards Institute 11 West 42nd Street, 13th floor New York, NY 10036 USA Tel : + 1 212 642 4900 Fax : + 1 212 398 0023. If you want another source, you may find it at http://server.cenelec.be:8100/cenelechtml/hp_sales_points.htm Other information on Cenelec standards can be found at http://cenelec.be Regards Helge Knudsen Jyske EMC, Denmark hknud...@jyske-emc.com -Original Message- From: Dan Mitchell [SMTP:dmitch...@eoscorp.com] Sent: fredag, oktober 02, 1998 22:22 To: 'emc-pstc' Subject:EN60950 Members, I need to find a source to buy the EN60950 Standard. Daniel W. Mitchell Product Safety EOS Corp. - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
