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Great Boštjan ! Fra: Boštjan Glavič Sendt: 1. november 2023 15:10 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Hello Amund 2 years is normal transition period. So once standard EN IEC 62368-1:2023 +A11 +A12 will be adopted as harmonised standard, there will be a transition period where both editions will be harmonised. Best regards Boštjan Poslano iz Outlook za Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> _ From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 12:07:05 PM To: Boštjan Glavič mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si> >; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Thanks Boštjan Have I understood correctly, that EN62368-1:2014 will be valid for a minimum of 2 more years, whether EN62368-1:2023 will soon be approved & harmonized or not? BR Amund Fra: Boštjan Glavič Sendt: 1. november 2023 11:42 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Amund, TC108X responsible for EN IEC 62368-1 established WG6, to work on comments from HAS consultants (they do assessment of draft standards for EU commission). Currently comments received on CD/CDV version of EN IEC 62368-1:2023. We still wait for assessment of FDIS. However, WG6 prepared answers to HAS consultants (3 consultants, one for LVD, one for RED and one for GPSD). I hope we will get some more info on the TC108X meeting end of November. I hope we can get new harmonised standard end of 2024. Therefore EN 62368-1:2014 will remain valid for min 2 more years in EU. Best regards, Boštjan Boštjan Glavič Vodja laboratorija za elektroniko / Head of Laboratory Varnost in elektromagnetika / Safety and Electromagnetics SIQ Ljubljana, Mašera-Spasićeva ulica 10, SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenija T: +386 1 4778 265 M: +386 41 391 283 bostjan.gla...@siq.si <mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si> ; www.siq.si <https://www.siq.si/> <https://www.siq.si/> To elektronsko sporočilo je namenjeno izključno naslovniku. Pravno obvestilo. <https://www.siq.si/pravno-obvestilo-za-prejemnike-elektronske-poste/> The information transmitted by this email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Disclaimer. <https://www.siq.si/en/legal-notice-for-e-mail-recipients/> <https://www.facebook.com/SIQLjubljana/> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/siq> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCURzJFvP5CDVtL_vdvWjbQA/featured> From: Charlie Blackham mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 9:11 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organisation. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Amund If a standard is listed in the OJ, it continues to provide a "presumption of conformity" even it has been "withdrawn" by the standards committee. The 2020 version of 62368-1 will not be listed in the OJ The 2023 version of 62368-1 was rejected by the EU Commission but it looks as though CENELEC voting will see it published anyway. IEC test reports and CB certificates are not required for CE marking and they remain valid in other countries until those national authorities have withdrawn them Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Hi all Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014? My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024. In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a date to replace 2014 and 2020 version? In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more. BR Amund Fra: Scott Xe Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Dear All, Thanks for your comments! It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period. Best regards, Scott On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe mailto:scott...@gmail.com> >
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Hello Amund 2 years is normal transition period. So once standard EN IEC 62368-1:2023 +A11 +A12 will be adopted as harmonised standard, there will be a transition period where both editions will be harmonised. Best regards Boštjan Poslano iz Outlook za Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: Amund Westin Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 12:07:05 PM To: Boštjan Glavič ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Thanks Boštjan Have I understood correctly, that EN62368-1:2014 will be valid for a minimum of 2 more years, whether EN62368-1:2023 will soon be approved & harmonized or not? BR Amund Fra: Boštjan Glavič Sendt: 1. november 2023 11:42 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Amund, TC108X responsible for EN IEC 62368-1 established WG6, to work on comments from HAS consultants (they do assessment of draft standards for EU commission). Currently comments received on CD/CDV version of EN IEC 62368-1:2023. We still wait for assessment of FDIS. However, WG6 prepared answers to HAS consultants (3 consultants, one for LVD, one for RED and one for GPSD). I hope we will get some more info on the TC108X meeting end of November. I hope we can get new harmonised standard end of 2024. Therefore EN 62368-1:2014 will remain valid for min 2 more years in EU. Best regards, Boštjan Boštjan Glavič Vodja laboratorija za elektroniko / Head of Laboratory Varnost in elektromagnetika / Safety and Electromagnetics SIQ Ljubljana, Mašera-Spasićeva ulica 10, SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenija T: +386 1 4778 265 M: +386 41 391 283 bostjan.gla...@siq.si<mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si>; www.siq.si<https://www.siq.si/> [SIQ]<https://www.siq.si/> To elektronsko sporočilo je namenjeno izključno naslovniku. Pravno obvestilo.<https://www.siq.si/pravno-obvestilo-za-prejemnike-elektronske-poste/> The information transmitted by this email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Disclaimer.<https://www.siq.si/en/legal-notice-for-e-mail-recipients/> [SIQ Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/SIQLjubljana/> [SIQ LinkedIn] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/siq> [SIQ YouTube] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCURzJFvP5CDVtL_vdvWjbQA/featured> From: Charlie Blackham mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 9:11 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organisation. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Amund If a standard is listed in the OJ, it continues to provide a “presumption of conformity” even it has been “withdrawn” by the standards committee. The 2020 version of 62368-1 will not be listed in the OJ The 2023 version of 62368-1 was rejected by the EU Commission but it looks as though CENELEC voting will see it published anyway. IEC test reports and CB certificates are not required for CE marking and they remain valid in other countries until those national authorities have withdrawn them Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Hi all Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014? My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024. In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a date to replace 2014 and 2020 version? In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more. BR Amund Fra: Scott Xe Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Dear All, Thanks for your comments! It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period. Best regards, Scott On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> wrote: CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024. What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market surveillances? EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ. All the relevant products should follow this version for EU markets. What is the point of this change to them? In general the test
[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014
Thanks Boštjan Have I understood correctly, that EN62368-1:2014 will be valid for a minimum of 2 more years, whether EN62368-1:2023 will soon be approved & harmonized or not? BR Amund Fra: Boštjan Glavič Sendt: 1. november 2023 11:42 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Amund, TC108X responsible for EN IEC 62368-1 established WG6, to work on comments from HAS consultants (they do assessment of draft standards for EU commission). Currently comments received on CD/CDV version of EN IEC 62368-1:2023. We still wait for assessment of FDIS. However, WG6 prepared answers to HAS consultants (3 consultants, one for LVD, one for RED and one for GPSD). I hope we will get some more info on the TC108X meeting end of November. I hope we can get new harmonised standard end of 2024. Therefore EN 62368-1:2014 will remain valid for min 2 more years in EU. Best regards, Boštjan Boštjan Glavič Vodja laboratorija za elektroniko / Head of Laboratory Varnost in elektromagnetika / Safety and Electromagnetics SIQ Ljubljana, Mašera-Spasićeva ulica 10, SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenija T: +386 1 4778 265 M: +386 41 391 283 bostjan.gla...@siq.si <mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si> ; www.siq.si <https://www.siq.si/> <https://www.siq.si/> To elektronsko sporočilo je namenjeno izključno naslovniku. Pravno obvestilo. <https://www.siq.si/pravno-obvestilo-za-prejemnike-elektronske-poste/> The information transmitted by this email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Disclaimer. <https://www.siq.si/en/legal-notice-for-e-mail-recipients/> <https://www.facebook.com/SIQLjubljana/> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/siq> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCURzJFvP5CDVtL_vdvWjbQA/featured> From: Charlie Blackham mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 9:11 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organisation. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Amund If a standard is listed in the OJ, it continues to provide a “presumption of conformity” even it has been “withdrawn” by the standards committee. The 2020 version of 62368-1 will not be listed in the OJ The 2023 version of 62368-1 was rejected by the EU Commission but it looks as though CENELEC voting will see it published anyway. IEC test reports and CB certificates are not required for CE marking and they remain valid in other countries until those national authorities have withdrawn them Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Hi all Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014? My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024. In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a date to replace 2014 and 2020 version? In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more. BR Amund Fra: Scott Xe Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Dear All, Thanks for your comments! It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period. Best regards, Scott On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe mailto:scott...@gmail.com> > wrote: CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024. What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market surveillances? EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ. All the relevant products should follow this version for EU markets. What is the point of this change to them? In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients in this aspect. Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes CENELEC. Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to follow. Some countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as their national standards. Can't withdrawn standards be used? Thanks and best regards, Scott - This message is from the
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Amund, TC108X responsible for EN IEC 62368-1 established WG6, to work on comments from HAS consultants (they do assessment of draft standards for EU commission). Currently comments received on CD/CDV version of EN IEC 62368-1:2023. We still wait for assessment of FDIS. However, WG6 prepared answers to HAS consultants (3 consultants, one for LVD, one for RED and one for GPSD). I hope we will get some more info on the TC108X meeting end of November. I hope we can get new harmonised standard end of 2024. Therefore EN 62368-1:2014 will remain valid for min 2 more years in EU. Best regards, Boštjan Boštjan Glavič Vodja laboratorija za elektroniko / Head of Laboratory Varnost in elektromagnetika / Safety and Electromagnetics SIQ Ljubljana, Mašera-Spasićeva ulica 10, SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenija T: +386 1 4778 265 M: +386 41 391 283 bostjan.gla...@siq.si<mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si>; www.siq.si<https://www.siq.si/> [SIQ]<https://www.siq.si/> To elektronsko sporočilo je namenjeno izključno naslovniku. Pravno obvestilo.<https://www.siq.si/pravno-obvestilo-za-prejemnike-elektronske-poste/> The information transmitted by this email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Disclaimer.<https://www.siq.si/en/legal-notice-for-e-mail-recipients/> [SIQ Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/SIQLjubljana/> [SIQ LinkedIn] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/siq> [SIQ YouTube] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCURzJFvP5CDVtL_vdvWjbQA/featured> From: Charlie Blackham Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 9:11 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organisation. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Amund If a standard is listed in the OJ, it continues to provide a “presumption of conformity” even it has been “withdrawn” by the standards committee. The 2020 version of 62368-1 will not be listed in the OJ The 2023 version of 62368-1 was rejected by the EU Commission but it looks as though CENELEC voting will see it published anyway. IEC test reports and CB certificates are not required for CE marking and they remain valid in other countries until those national authorities have withdrawn them Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Hi all Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014? My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024. In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a date to replace 2014 and 2020 version? In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more. BR Amund Fra: Scott Xe Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Dear All, Thanks for your comments! It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period. Best regards, Scott On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> wrote: CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024. What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market surveillances? EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ. All the relevant products should follow this version for EU markets. What is the point of this change to them? In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients in this aspect. Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes CENELEC. Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to follow. Some countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as their national standards. Can't withdrawn standards be used? Thanks and best regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrato
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Amund If a standard is listed in the OJ, it continues to provide a “presumption of conformity” even it has been “withdrawn” by the standards committee. The 2020 version of 62368-1 will not be listed in the OJ The 2023 version of 62368-1 was rejected by the EU Commission but it looks as though CENELEC voting will see it published anyway. IEC test reports and CB certificates are not required for CE marking and they remain valid in other countries until those national authorities have withdrawn them Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Amund Westin Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Hi all Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014? My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024. In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a date to replace 2014 and 2020 version? In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more. BR Amund Fra: Scott Xe Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Dear All, Thanks for your comments! It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period. Best regards, Scott On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> wrote: CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024. What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market surveillances? EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ. All the relevant products should follow this version for EU markets. What is the point of this change to them? In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients in this aspect. Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes CENELEC. Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to follow. Some countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as their national standards. Can't withdrawn standards be used? Thanks and best regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1 This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org/<https://www.mail-archive.com/emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org/%20> Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html> List rules: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: msherma...@comcast.net<mailto:msherma...@comcast.net> Rick Linford at: linf...@ieee.org<mailto:linf...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher at: j.bac...@ieee.org<mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org/ Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/listrules.html For help, send mail
[PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014
Hi all Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014? My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024. In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a date to replace 2014 and 2020 version? In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more. BR Amund Fra: Scott Xe Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Dear All, Thanks for your comments! It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period. Best regards, Scott On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe mailto:scott...@gmail.com> > wrote: CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024. What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market surveillances? EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ. All the relevant products should follow this version for EU markets. What is the point of this change to them? In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients in this aspect. Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes CENELEC. Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to follow. Some countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as their national standards. Can't withdrawn standards be used? Thanks and best regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > _ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC <https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1> &A=1 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org/ Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: msherma...@comcast.net Rick Linford at: linf...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: _ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014
Dear All, Thanks for your comments! It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period. Best regards, Scott On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe wrote: > CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to > 06/07/2024. What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses > and market surveillances? > > EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ. All the relevant > products should follow this version for EU markets. What is the point of > this change to them? > > In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients > in this aspect. Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes > CENELEC. Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to > follow. Some countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as > their national standards. Can't withdrawn standards be used? > > Thanks and best regards, > > Scott > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: _ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014
Scott My understanding is that the extension is purely so that there is not an expired standard listed in the OJ for the LVD – that’s all There is no legal link between the dates in a standard and compliance with a Directive A manufacturer is free to use whatever standards they wish for compliance with LVD and article 3.1(a) of the RED, but only Harmonised Standards currently listed in the OJ provide a Presumption of Conformity Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Scott Xe Sent: 07 December 2022 16:43 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024. What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market surveillances? EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ. All the relevant products should follow this version for EU markets. What is the point of this change to them? In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients in this aspect. Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes CENELEC. Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to follow. Some countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as their national standards. Can't withdrawn standards be used? Thanks and best regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: _ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1
[PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014
CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024. What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market surveillances? EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ. All the relevant products should follow this version for EU markets. What is the point of this change to them? In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients in this aspect. Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes CENELEC. Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to follow. Some countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as their national standards. Can't withdrawn standards be used? Thanks and best regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: _ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
Gee, and I thought SDOs like UL and CSA were the only ones with issues. ;^)) Ralph McDiarmid Product Compliance Engineering Solar Business Schneider Electric From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 2:34 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW See my recent post about chaos. It applies to EN 60950-1 as well as EN 60065. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/ J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England UK is a sovereignty, not a Zollverein-ty From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:54 AM To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Bostjan. Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950? Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08 To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> __ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. __ - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc p
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
Hello Ian, I have not been informed about it. If you check linked-in, UL is advertising count-down till DoW for EN 60065:2014. Best regards, Bostjan From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 11:23 AM To: Boštjan Glavič ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Bostjan. I was informed by a testing agency that the DOW was the same as EN 60950 i.e. 20-12-2020. Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com<mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:58 To: McBurney, Ian mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com>>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Ian, EN 60065:2014 has a DoW 17.11.2017. This is in two months. For this standard CENELEC and OJ show the same DoW. Best regards, Bostjan From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:54 AM To: Boštjan Glavič mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si>>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Bostjan. Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950? Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com<mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
That's what it SHOULD be, but for some reason it was proposed to withdraw from EN 62368-1 the text that allows parts conforming to the older standards to be used, with no date of withdrawal specified. Many National Committees have said that it must not be withdrawn until 2020-12-20, but there is no official decision yet, hence chaos.. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England UK is a sovereignty, not a Zollverein-ty From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:23 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Bostjan. I was informed by a testing agency that the DOW was the same as EN 60950 i.e. 20-12-2020. Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:58 To: McBurney, Ian mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> >; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Ian, EN 60065:2014 has a DoW 17.11.2017. This is in two months. For this standard CENELEC and OJ show the same DoW. Best regards, Bostjan From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:54 AM To: Boštjan Glavič mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si> >; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Bostjan. Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950? Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dh
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
Hello Bostjan. I was informed by a testing agency that the DOW was the same as EN 60950 i.e. 20-12-2020. Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:58 To: McBurney, Ian ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Ian, EN 60065:2014 has a DoW 17.11.2017. This is in two months. For this standard CENELEC and OJ show the same DoW. Best regards, Bostjan From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:54 AM To: Boštjan Glavič mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si>>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Bostjan. Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950? Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com<mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
See my recent post about chaos. It applies to EN 60950-1 as well as EN 60065. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England UK is a sovereignty, not a Zollverein-ty From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:54 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Bostjan. Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950? Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
Hello Bostjan. Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950? Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
Yes, well, it's all in chaos. Several National Committees have asked CENELEC to change that date to 20 December 2020 or later. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England UK is a sovereignty, not a Zollverein-ty From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:58 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Ian, EN 60065:2014 has a DoW 17.11.2017. This is in two months. For this standard CENELEC and OJ show the same DoW. Best regards, Bostjan From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:54 AM To: Boštjan Glavič mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si> >; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Bostjan. Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950? Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
Hello Ian, EN 60065:2014 has a DoW 17.11.2017. This is in two months. For this standard CENELEC and OJ show the same DoW. Best regards, Bostjan From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:54 AM To: Boštjan Glavič ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Bostjan. Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950? Regards; Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK T: 01326 372070 E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com<mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
Hello Nick, Thank you for this clarification. Best regards, Bostjan From: Hooper, Nick [mailto:nick.hoo...@ul.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:23 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Bostjan The EU Commission are "aware" of this, the last update to the LVD OJEU was to add "take into account the new status of the 60335-2-9" There are a number of updates in the pipeline and they are working with CENELEC. Best Regards Nick From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
There should be an explanation of such things at the top of the OJ list, but that would require intelligence, which is contrary to policy. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England UK is a sovereignty, not a Zollverein-ty From: Hooper, Nick [mailto:nick.hoo...@ul.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:23 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Hello Bostjan The EU Commission are "aware" of this, the last update to the LVD OJEU was to add "take into account the new status of the 60335-2-9" There are a number of updates in the pipeline and they are working with CENELEC. Best Regards Nick From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
I have flagged this up to the BSI committee, which may produce an explanation. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England UK is a sovereignty, not a Zollverein-ty From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
Hello Bostjan The EU Commission are "aware" of this, the last update to the LVD OJEU was to add "take into account the new status of the 60335-2-9" There are a number of updates in the pipeline and they are working with CENELEC. Best Regards Nick From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you may not disclose, use, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment(s); and (2) please notify the sender by reply e-mail, and then delete this message and its attachment(s). Underwriters Laboratories Inc. and its affiliates disclaim all liability for any errors, omissions, corruption or virus in this message or any attachments. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
[PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
Dear all, There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020. Best regards, Bostjan - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: