Re: CENELEC Harmonisation Documents
I read in !emc-pstc that John Allen ja014d7...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote (in 001f01c32a08$b6facaa0$0200a8c0@HOME2) about 'CENELEC Harmonisation Documents' on Tue, 3 Jun 2003: The reason is that I am trying to trace some older national regulations which were typically listed in the HD's as the reasons for national deviations to the base standards. These regulations were often more clearly called out than in the superceeding EN's. It wasn't the reason that you wanted the information that wasn't clear, it was precisely what you wanted. Has Rich Nute steered you to it? -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: CENELEC Harmonisation Documents
John The reason is that I am trying to trace some older national regulations which were typically listed in the HD's as the reasons for national deviations to the base standards. These regulations were often more clearly called out than in the superceeding EN's. John Allen ERA Technology (from home) - Original Message - From: John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: Re: CENELEC Harmonisation Documents I read in !emc-pstc that John Allen john.al...@era.co.uk wrote (in BFE68AB0084CD311B4FB00508B014C8704D229A2@MERCURY) about 'CENELEC Harmonisation Documents' on Tue, 3 Jun 2003: Does anyone have, or know of, a list of HD's, including the cancelled ones? I am particularly interested in those relating to domestic appliances (CEE 10/11, IEC 335/60335), audio-visual equipment (CEE 1, IEC 65/60065) and portable tools (CEE ??, IEC 745/60745). It's not clear to me exactly what you want. In the history of EN 60065, for example, IEC 65 4th edition was adopted as HD 195 S3 but later the 5th edition with amendments was adopted as EN 60065. The situation with IEC/EN 60335 is immensely complex, since the Parts and Sections were re-numbered 'on the fly' some years ago, with considerable confusion for those not involved in the committee work. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: CENELEC Harmonisation Documents
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:11:57 +0100 , John Allen john.al...@era.co.uk wrote: Does anyone have, or know of, a list of HD's, including the cancelled ones? I am particularly interested in those relating to domestic appliances (CEE 10/11, IEC 335/60335), audio-visual equipment (CEE 1, IEC 65/60065) and portable tools (CEE ??, IEC 745/60745). Sounds weird, I know, but there is a reason! Thanks in advance. John Allen, Technical Consultant Safety Risk Management ERA Technology Ltd. Cleeve Road Leatherhead Surrey KT22 7SA UK Tel: +44-1372-367025 (Direct) +44-1372-367000 (Switchboard) Fax: +44-1372-367102 I think the CENELEC website will give you current documents: 1) Go To www.cenelec.org 2) Select 'Standardization Activities' 3) In the field marked 'Standard Reference' simply type 'HD', then press the 'Run Report' button. You might get expired documents in step 3) by also selecting an entry in the 'Status' or 'Stage Code' field. I'm not familiar with HD documents, so I don't know how to read the results. Pat Lawler pat.law...@verizon.nett (change nett to net to reply) This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: CENELEC Harmonisation Documents
I read in !emc-pstc that John Allen john.al...@era.co.uk wrote (in BFE68AB0084CD311B4FB00508B014C8704D229A2@MERCURY) about 'CENELEC Harmonisation Documents' on Tue, 3 Jun 2003: Does anyone have, or know of, a list of HD's, including the cancelled ones? I am particularly interested in those relating to domestic appliances (CEE 10/11, IEC 335/60335), audio-visual equipment (CEE 1, IEC 65/60065) and portable tools (CEE ??, IEC 745/60745). It's not clear to me exactly what you want. In the history of EN 60065, for example, IEC 65 4th edition was adopted as HD 195 S3 but later the 5th edition with amendments was adopted as EN 60065. The situation with IEC/EN 60335 is immensely complex, since the Parts and Sections were re-numbered 'on the fly' some years ago, with considerable confusion for those not involved in the committee work. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: CENELEC Harmonisation Documents
Rich So they are - I forgot the current list of HD's was at the end of the list (I rarely need to look that far down!!). Unfortunately, most of those which I am seeking are not on that list because they have been withdrawn after the EN's were issued. Thanks John Allen From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com] Sent: 03 June 2003 16:01 To: john.al...@era.co.uk Subject: RE: CENELEC Harmonisation Documents A lot of HDs are listed here. http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/re flist/lvd.html Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International From: John Allen [mailto:john.al...@era.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:12 AM To: - EMC PSTC Posts (E-mail) Subject: CENELEC Harmonisation Documents Hi Folks Does anyone have, or know of, a list of HD's, including the cancelled ones? I am particularly interested in those relating to domestic appliances (CEE 10/11, IEC 335/60335), audio-visual equipment (CEE 1, IEC 65/60065) and portable tools (CEE ??, IEC 745/60745). Sounds weird, I know, but there is a reason! Thanks in advance. John Allen, Technical Consultant Safety Risk Management ERA Technology Ltd. Cleeve Road Leatherhead Surrey KT22 7SA UK Tel: +44-1372-367025 (Direct) +44-1372-367000 (Switchboard) Fax: +44-1372-367102 * Copyright ERA Technology Ltd. 2003. (www.era.co.uk). All rights reserved. The information supplied in this Commercial Communication should be treated in confidence. No liability whatsoever is accepted for any loss or damage suffered as a result of accessing this message or any attachments. _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com * Copyright ERA Technology Ltd. 2003. (www.era.co.uk). All rights reserved. The information supplied in this Commercial Communication should be treated in confidence. No liability whatsoever is accepted for any loss or damage suffered as a result of accessing this message or any attachments. _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
CENELEC Harmonisation Documents
Hi Folks Does anyone have, or know of, a list of HD's, including the cancelled ones? I am particularly interested in those relating to domestic appliances (CEE 10/11, IEC 335/60335), audio-visual equipment (CEE 1, IEC 65/60065) and portable tools (CEE ??, IEC 745/60745). Sounds weird, I know, but there is a reason! Thanks in advance. John Allen, Technical Consultant Safety Risk Management ERA Technology Ltd. Cleeve Road Leatherhead Surrey KT22 7SA UK Tel: +44-1372-367025 (Direct) +44-1372-367000 (Switchboard) Fax: +44-1372-367102 * Copyright ERA Technology Ltd. 2003. (www.era.co.uk). All rights reserved. The information supplied in this Commercial Communication should be treated in confidence. No liability whatsoever is accepted for any loss or damage suffered as a result of accessing this message or any attachments. _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
