RE: [PSES] EN 55022 DOCOPOCOSS
Hi Kris, This is actually fairly straightforward. According to the latest EMC & R&TTE Directive harmonized standards lists, “EN 55022:1998 and its amendments” will cease to provide a presumption of conformity on 1.10.2009. So, the answer to your question is, yes as EN 55022:1998, and its amendments, are still valid up to 1.10.2009. But, with that said, it would behoove you to start testing and declaring compliance to EN 55022:2006 and its amendment before that date. IHTH. Best regards, Ron Pickard ron.pick...@intermec.com <mailto:ron.pick...@intermec.com> From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Carpentier Kristiaan Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:50 AM To: shusterman_bo...@emc.com; st...@itl.co.il Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] EN 55022 DOCOPOCOSS Boris, EN55022:2006 with & w/o A1 must be used after 1.10.2009. EN55022:2006 with A1 must be used after 1.10.2010. My question was: can EN55022:1998 without any amendment still be used (or listed on DoC) now and untill 1.10-2009? I got a number of different opinions, so it seems very unclear for the compliance world. Kind regards, Kris Carpentier Regulatory & Approvals - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald This message is intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action based on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald
RE: [PSES] EN 55022 DOCOPOCOSS
Boris, EN55022:2006 with & w/o A1 must be used after 1.10.2009. EN55022:2006 with A1 must be used after 1.10.2010. My question was: can EN55022:1998 without any amendment still be used (or listed on DoC) now and untill 1.10-2009? I got a number of different opinions, so it seems very unclear for the compliance world. Kind regards, Kris Carpentier Regulatory & Approvals - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald
RE: [PSES] EN 55022 DOCOPOCOSS
YES until October 1st. Steli Loznen, M.Sc.,SM-IEEE Q.A. and Certification Manager Convener of IEC/TC62/SC62A/WG17 I.T.L (Product Testing) Ltd. 1, Bat Sheva St., POB 87 LOD 71100, ISRAEL Tel: 972-8-9153100 Fax: 972-8-9153101 Mobile: 972-54-7245794 E-mail: st...@itl.co.il www.itl.co.il From: Carpentier Kristiaan [mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@thomson.net] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:01 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN 55022 DOCOPOCOSS Hi Group, October 1st, 2009, EN55022:2006 (+A1) will replace the 1998 version. At now & until that date, are the 3 versions listed below still valid as EU harmonised standard for mentioning on the EU DoC? EN55022:1998 And/or EN55022:1998+A1 And/or EN55022:1998+A1+A2 Kind regards, Kris Carpentier Regulatory & Approvals - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald
EN 55022 DOCOPOCOSS
Hi Group, October 1st, 2009, EN55022:2006 (+A1) will replace the 1998 version. At now & until that date, are the 3 versions listed below still valid as EU harmonised standard for mentioning on the EU DoC? EN55022:1998 And/or EN55022:1998+A1 And/or EN55022:1998+A1+A2 Kind regards, Kris Carpentier Regulatory & Approvals - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald
Re: DOCOPOCOSS for EN 60065 : 1998
Scott To presume compliance by applying the harmonised standard, the manufacturer need to "place the product on the market" before the DOCOPOCOSS. Have a look at section 2.3 of Guide to the implementation of directives based on the New Approach and the Global Approach (the "blue book")http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/ne approach/legislation/guide/document/1999_1282_en.pdf regards Charlie > A question about the Date of Cessation of Presumption of Conformity of > the Superseded Standard. > > If a product is tested to (and the CB Report indicates) EN 60065 : 1998, > when is the last time that product can be sold to a customer? More > specifically, if a product is near it's end of life by that date, can we > build ahead and ship to the warehouse before that date? We will not be > able to sell all to customers by that date, but they would be built and > in storage. So is it still "legal" to sell these pre-built products to > customers after the date? > > I know the date is March 1, 2007. We have some products close to end of > life, say EOL by June 2007. Can we build that extra few months of sales > and put them in storage in February and then still sell them after > March? We're not talking RoHS here, only and specifically safety and the > CE Mark. > > As always, I look forward to your expert replies, and I thank you in > advance. > > Scott Douglas > sdoug...@ptcnh.net > > - > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society > emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > > To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org > > Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html > > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net > Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org > > For policy questions, send mail to: > > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > > http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: DOCOPOCOSS for EN 60065 : 1998
In message <448e2655.3000...@ptcnh.net>, dated Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Scott Douglas writes >If a product is tested to (and the CB Report indicates) EN 60065 : >1998, when is the last time that product can be sold to a customer? >More specifically, if a product is near it's end of life by that date, >can we build ahead and ship to the warehouse before that date? We will >not be able to sell all to customers by that date, but they would be >built and in storage. So is it still "legal" to sell these pre-built >products to customers after the date? Not if you have retained ownership after the docopocoss. > >I know the date is March 1, 2007. We have some products close to end of >life, say EOL by June 2007. Can we build that extra few months of >sales and put them in storage in February and then still sell them >after March? We're not talking RoHS here, only and specifically safety >and the CE Mark. No, you must 'place [them] on the market' before the cut-off date, by putting them into the distribution chain. Depending on how you market the products, your distributors may agree to take them into stock, but ownership must be transferred from your company to them. You may feel that this is not sensible, but if it were not so, abuse of the docopocoss would be easy. There seem to be no other way of doing it. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
DOCOPOCOSS for EN 60065 : 1998
A question about the Date of Cessation of Presumption of Conformity of the Superseded Standard. If a product is tested to (and the CB Report indicates) EN 60065 : 1998, when is the last time that product can be sold to a customer? More specifically, if a product is near it's end of life by that date, can we build ahead and ship to the warehouse before that date? We will not be able to sell all to customers by that date, but they would be built and in storage. So is it still "legal" to sell these pre-built products to customers after the date? I know the date is March 1, 2007. We have some products close to end of life, say EOL by June 2007. Can we build that extra few months of sales and put them in storage in February and then still sell them after March? We're not talking RoHS here, only and specifically safety and the CE Mark. As always, I look forward to your expert replies, and I thank you in advance. Scott Douglas sdoug...@ptcnh.net - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: DOCOPOCOSS?
Ian, Dates in the Official Journal of the European Communities (OJ) are in the form dd.mm.. John Barnes KS4GL, PE, NCE, ESDC Eng, SM IEEE dBi Corporation http://www.dbicorporation.com/ This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
Re: DOCOPOCOSS?
I read in !emc-pstc that Gordon,Ian wrote (in ) about 'DOCOPOCOSS?' on Mon, 6 Jan 2003: >In the link supplied below by Peter my concern is with EN61010-1. >Will EN61010-1:1993 replace EN61010-1:1990 on 1/4/04? I would not think so; that's an 11 year transition period, which is highly improbable. >Does the table show that after 1/4/04 the 2001 version must be used? That would be a normal 3-year transition period. >May both the 1993 and 2001 versions be used concurrently after 1/4/04? Most unlikely. > >By the way, are the dates quoted in the OJ dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy? They *should* be (yy)yy-mm-dd, but it's very unlikely indeed that they are mm-dd-yy, unless someone has made a BIG mistake. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
RE: DOCOPOCOSS?
Ian, Up to 1/4/2004 both standards - EN61010-1:1993 and EN61010-1:2001 - can be used for presumption of conformity to the essential requirements of the LVD. >From 1/4/2004 , EN61010-1:2001 is the only standard that must be used to show compliance for products that are still put on the EU market from that date. Regards, Kris From: Gordon,Ian [mailto:ian.gor...@edwards.boc.com] Sent: maandag 6 januari 2003 11:57 To: 'IEEE EMC-PSTC GROUP' Cc: 'Peters, Michael' Subject: DOCOPOCOSS? All In the link supplied below by Peter my concern is with EN61010-1. Will EN61010-1:1993 replace EN61010-1:1990 on 1/4/04? Does the table show that after 1/4/04 the 2001 version must be used? May both the 1993 and 2001 versions be used concurrently after 1/4/04? By the way, are the dates quoted in the OJ dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy? LVD: Commission communication in the framework of the implementation of Council Directive 73/23/EEC - OJ C 317 of 2002-12-18 (this list replaces all the previous lists published in the Official Journal of the European Communities) http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/oj/2002/c_31720021218en.html Thanks Ian Gordon _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
DOCOPOCOSS?
All In the link supplied below by Peter my concern is with EN61010-1. Will EN61010-1:1993 replace EN61010-1:1990 on 1/4/04? Does the table show that after 1/4/04 the 2001 version must be used? May both the 1993 and 2001 versions be used concurrently after 1/4/04? By the way, are the dates quoted in the OJ dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy? LVD: Commission communication in the framework of the implementation of Council Directive 73/23/EEC - OJ C 317 of 2002-12-18 (this list replaces all the previous lists published in the Official Journal of the European Communities) http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/oj/2002/c_31720021218en.html Thanks Ian Gordon _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
Re: docopocoss
John: The way I have been pronouncing DOCOPOCOSS, it almost rhymes with HOCUS POCUS, which I judge is more ironical than poetical (sic). Regards, Jacob Z. Schanker, P.E. 65 Crandon Way Rochester, NY 14618 Tel: 585 442 3909 Fax: 585 442 2182 j.schan...@ieee.org - Original Message - From: "John Woodgate" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: Re: docopocoss > > I read in !emc-pstc that Price, Ed wrote (in > ) about > 'docopocoss' on Wed, 6 Nov 2002: > > >Maybe we could come to admire DOCOPOCOSS more if we could rhyme it with > >something. > > It's very difficult to get a true rhyme for multi-syllable words which > are accented on the first syllable. Hence: > > O all ye lords of ladies intellectual, > Admit it now; have they not hen-pecked you all. > > [Author unknown to me] > -- > Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk > Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to > http://www.isce.org.uk > PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! > > --- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com > Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ > Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" > --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
Re: docopocoss
John- I know you invented the "word", and thus have first claim on it. But I was putting the accent on the penultimate syllable, making it much easier to rhyme. Don Borowski John Woodgate @majordomo.ieee.org on 11/06/2002 09:03:51 AM Please respond to John Woodgate Sent by:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org To:emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject:Re: docopocoss I read in !emc-pstc that Price, Ed wrote (in ) about 'docopocoss' on Wed, 6 Nov 2002: >Maybe we could come to admire DOCOPOCOSS more if we could rhyme it with >something. It's very difficult to get a true rhyme for multi-syllable words which are accented on the first syllable. Hence: O all ye lords of ladies intellectual, Admit it now; have they not hen-pecked you all. [Author unknown to me] -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
Re: docopocoss
I read in !emc-pstc that Price, Ed wrote (in ) about 'docopocoss' on Wed, 6 Nov 2002: >Maybe we could come to admire DOCOPOCOSS more if we could rhyme it with >something. It's very difficult to get a true rhyme for multi-syllable words which are accented on the first syllable. Hence: O all ye lords of ladies intellectual, Admit it now; have they not hen-pecked you all. [Author unknown to me] -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
RE: docopocoss
>-Original Message- >From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] >Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:01 AM >To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: Re: docopocoss > > > >I read in !emc-pstc that Price, Ed wrote (in >) about >'docopocoss' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: > >>In view of the elegance of "docopocoss", drawing & quartering >comes to mind. > >Look, I didn't invent 'date of cessation of presumption of >conformity of >the superseded standard' - that's probably down to someone in the >Commission's legal department. I just balked at typing it out over and >over again, so I just copied the 'doa', 'dop', 'dow' system. The >initials might have produced an even less elegant 'word'. >-- Sorry, John. Try to remember that linguistic pioneers sometimes catch an arrow. I had also done a Google search, and found your name at the top of a very short list of references. The first thing about getting a newly minted word into general usage is to have a snappy pronunciation. Let's take a hint from Spanish, and accent the second syllable. That yields an English-friendly doh coh' poh caws. Maybe we could come to admire DOCOPOCOSS more if we could rhyme it with something. Hmmm: DOCOPOCOSS Don't forget to floss A dirty double-cross Help an old lady across A rock with no moss Here comes the boss And on that note, I realize I better get back to work. Regards, Ed Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military & Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
Re: docopocoss
I read in !emc-pstc that Price, Ed wrote (in ) about 'docopocoss' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: >In view of the elegance of "docopocoss", drawing & quartering comes to mind. Look, I didn't invent 'date of cessation of presumption of conformity of the superseded standard' - that's probably down to someone in the Commission's legal department. I just balked at typing it out over and over again, so I just copied the 'doa', 'dop', 'dow' system. The initials might have produced an even less elegant 'word'. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
RE: docopocoss
>-Original Message- >From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] >Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:04 PM >To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: Re: docopocoss > > > >I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute wrote (in ><200211051744.jaa26...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com>) about 'docopocoss' >on Tue, 5 >Nov 2002: >>"docopocoss" >> >>This word was unknown to me. I checked an >>American dictionary and could not find it. >> >>Then, I called up the Google search engine >>and entered the word, hoping to find an >>English dictionary. >> >>Google immediately came back with the >>definition. > >We just put a new word into English! We should get an award for that. >(;-) >-- >Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. In view of the elegance of "docopocoss", drawing & quartering comes to mind. Ed Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military & Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
RE: docopocoss
Bob Johnson ITE <http://www.itesafety.com/> Safety -Original Message- From: Robert Johnson [mailto:john...@itesafety.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:34 PM To: 'Rich Nute' Subject: RE: docopocoss "docopocoss" This word was unknown to me. I checked an American Websters New Third World Unabridged dictionary and could not find it. Then, I called up the Google search engine and entered the word, hoping to find an English dictionary. Google immediately came back with the definition. :^) Bob Johnson ITE Safety -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Rich Nute Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:44 PM To: j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: docopocoss "docopocoss" This word was unknown to me. I checked an American dictionary and could not find it. Then, I called up the Google search engine and entered the word, hoping to find an English dictionary. Google immediately came back with the definition. Rich --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
Re: docopocoss
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute wrote (in <200211051744.jaa26...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com>) about 'docopocoss' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: >"docopocoss" > >This word was unknown to me. I checked an >American dictionary and could not find it. > >Then, I called up the Google search engine >and entered the word, hoping to find an >English dictionary. > >Google immediately came back with the >definition. We just put a new word into English! We should get an award for that. (;-) -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
Re: docopocoss
I read in !emc-pstc that Roman, Dan wrote (in <3d90571297abd511957400508bf29c43022cc...@pysmsx101.py.intel.com>) about 'docopocoss' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: >Yes, with apparently only one user of this "word" on the face of the planet! >:-) You mean little MEEE? -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
RE: docopocoss
Yes, with apparently only one user of this "word" on the face of the planet! :-) TLAs are bad enough, 10LAs I can't handle (guess that would be a TLA as well). Dan -Original Message- From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:44 PM To: j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: docopocoss "docopocoss" This word was unknown to me. I checked an American dictionary and could not find it. Then, I called up the Google search engine and entered the word, hoping to find an English dictionary. Google immediately came back with the definition. Rich --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
docopocoss
"docopocoss" This word was unknown to me. I checked an American dictionary and could not find it. Then, I called up the Google search engine and entered the word, hoping to find an English dictionary. Google immediately came back with the definition. Rich --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
