Re: EN 60204-1: 1997 vs. 1998 vs. 2006

2006-06-14 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Interestingly, I have in the last hour had a marketing e-mail from 
BSI which is trying to sell me a copy of EN 60204-1:2006. I've spoken 
to them and they tell me that it is due for publication on 22 
September 2006.

There's some information on the BSI web site about the new standard at:

www.bsi-global.com/BSEN60204

regards

Nick.

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Re: EN 60204-1: 1997 vs. 1998 vs. 2006

2006-06-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message p0623090bc0b4a85899ce@[10.247.58.220], dated Tue, 13 Jun 
2006, Nick Williams nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk writes

The last list of machinery standards to be published in the OJ was 
dated 31 December 2005 and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a 12 
month gap before the next one. Likewise, the last LVD list was 16 
Novermber 2005 and I'd expect a 12 month gap for the next.

People are complaining about this, because the standards process is 
continuous, and an 11 month delay in updating the OJ is causing 
problems, especially when a standard is amended to correct errors.

Who mentioned EN 55022 then? I wouldn't do such a thing. (;-)
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Re: EN 60204-1: 1997 vs. 1998 vs. 2006

2006-06-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 
ofbcc5ed40.67f57bbb-on8825718c.005ed5ef-8825718c.005f0...@teal.com, 
dated Tue, 13 Jun 2006, pat.law...@slpower.com writes
I need to order the current issue of EN 60204-1 (Safety of machinery –
 Electrical equipment of machines).   When I went to the EUR-Lex 
website at
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/refl
ist/machines.html
it lists EN 60204-1:1997 as the current edition, with no amendments. 
 So far, so good.

But when I look at websites that sell standards, I see listings for 
1997, 1998, and 2006.
- Should I simply buy the 1997 edition, or are there 
changes/corrections that forced the 1998 version to be published?

The '1998' version is the national implementation of the formal 
'publication' by CENELEC of the EN dated 1997, which was probably 
published in November or December 1997, so the national standards carry 
the 1998 date.

- Is the 2006 version on the verge of announcement in the OJ?  If so, 
it sounds like that should be used to evaluate my product.

 From the public part of the CENELEC web site, you can get:

Standard reference EN 60204-1:200X
Reference document IEC 60204-1:2005 (Modified)
Technical body CLC/TC 44X
IEC technical body IEC/TC 44

Dor 2006-06-01
Dav -
Doa 2006-12-01
Dop 2007-06-01
Dow 2009-06-01

The doa (date of adoption)  is not till December, so it would be a bit 
premature to use it as soon as it's published.
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Re: EN 60204-1: 1997 vs. 1998 vs. 2006

2006-06-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Unless the information on the CENELEC web site is out of date, there 
isn't an EN 60204-1:2006 yet. There  _is_ an IEC 60204-1:2005 but the 
CENELEC site indicates that there will be modifications (differences) 
between the IEC and EN versions.

The 1997/1998 confusion probably arises because the original CENELEC 
version of the EN was dated 1997 but BSI did not get round to 
publishing it until 1998, so BS EN 60204-1:1998 is the same as EN 
60204-1:1997.

The last list of machinery standards to be published in the OJ was 
dated 31 December 2005 and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a 12 
month gap before the next one. Likewise, the last LVD list was 16 
Novermber 2005 and I'd expect a 12 month gap for the next.

If the new version of EN 60204-1 is imminent then it will be 
published before this and will presumably appear in the next OJ list, 
but if you have a product which needs evaluation right now, I would 
not hesitate to use the 1997 version.

Nick.




At 10:17 am -0700 13/6/06, pat.law...@slpower.com wrote:
Hi all:

I need to order the current issue of EN 60204-1 (Safety of 
machinery - Electrical equipment of machines).   When I went to the 
EUR-Lex website at
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/newappr
ach/standardization/harmstds/reflist/machines.html
it lists EN 60204-1:1997 as the current edition, with no amendments. 
 So far, so good.

But when I look at websites that sell standards, I see listings for 
1997, 1998, and 2006.
- Should I simply buy the 1997 edition, or are there 
changes/corrections that forced the 1998 version to be published?
- Is the 2006 version on the verge of announcement in the OJ?  If 
so, it sounds like that should be used to evaluate my product.

Thanks,
Pat Lawler
Engineer
SL Power Electronics Corp.

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EN 60204-1: 1997 vs. 1998 vs. 2006

2006-06-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org

Hi all: 

I need to order the current issue of EN 60204-1 (Safety of machinery – 
Electrical equipment of machines).   When I went to the EUR-Lex website at 
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/reflist/machines.html
 
it lists EN 60204-1:1997 as the current edition, with no amendments.  So far, 
so good. 

But when I look at websites that sell standards, I see listings for 1997, 1998, 
and 2006. 
- Should I simply buy the 1997 edition, or are there changes/corrections that 
forced the 1998 version to be published? 
- Is the 2006 version on the verge of announcement in the OJ?  If so, it sounds 
like that should be used to evaluate my product. 

Thanks, 
Pat Lawler 
Engineer 
SL Power Electronics Corp.