Re: EN60950, 3rd Edition . . .
Hello Carla, EN 60950 has already been ratified by CENELEC BT, dated January 1, 2000. The following related dates have been set: doa (date of announcement, publication in the EU Official Journal): July 1, 2000 dop (date of publication in at least one European member country): January 1, 2001 dow ( date of withdrawal of conflicting standards, which is EN 60950 2nd edition A11:1998): January 1, 2005. This date will also be the date of cessation (doc), by which the superseded standard looses its presumption of conformity with the essential requirements of the Low Voltage Directive. mit freundlichen Gruessen/ best regards Volker Gasse IBM Germany, Technical Relations/Product Safety, Tel: +49-7031-642-6796, Fax: -6916, e-mail: volker.ga...@de.ibm.com Mail: D3114/7103-91, D-70548 Stuttgart, Germany Carla Robinson carla_robin...@mw.3com.com on 15.05.2000 17:46:10 Please respond to Carla Robinson carla_robin...@mw.3com.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org cc:(bcc: Volker Gasse/Germany/IBM) Subject: EN60950, 3rd Edition . . . Greetings! I am seeking information on when will the 3rd Edition of the EN60950, L.V. Directive, go into effect? When will it be ratified for the European Community? Carla Robinson 3Com Corp. 847-262-2494 carla_robin...@mw.3com.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: EN60950, 3rd Edition, and . . .
IEC950 is not officially withdrawn yet. We received a draft CB-scheme test report February 2000 based on IEC 950, with 97-06 amendments. EN 60950 is based on IEC 950. Eventually IEC 950 will become IEC60950 to simplify the numerology. Provisional and draft documents are subject to change. As I noted before, certification to an issued document is preferable; even if the document is superseded, the conditions of acceptance are well-defined. David Sterner Alarm Device Manufacturing Co. Syosset NY __ Reply Separator _ Subject: Re: EN60950, 3rd Edition, and . . . Author: Ron Pickard SMTP:rpick...@hypercom.com at ADEMCONET List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date:5/15/2000 2:23 PM Carla et al, I had recently asked a similar question regarding IE60950 3rd Ed. and its acceptabilitty, which also included the CB Scheme. I received very little response which I think was due to many not knowing themselves. After thinking about this while this thread has now resurfaced, I feel that IEC60950 3rd will not and should not enter into the CB Scheme arena until the member countries have national/regional versions of IEC60950 3rd Ed. in place. The only region I know that is pursuing this is North America with its UL60950 3rd Ed. The rest of the regulatory standards making bodies appear to be silent regarding this (unless I've been keeping my head in the sand). This apparent reluctance to proceed may jeopardize the one-basic-standard approach the ITE community has grown familiar with. So, to all those out there with their ears to the grindstones of the standard-making bodies, is IEC60950 3rd Edition being adopted into, say, EN60950 3rd Ed. or AS/NZ 60950 3rd Ed.? Any others? Just some added questions and opinions thrown in and tossed about. Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com Carla Robinson Carla_Robinson@mwTo: emc-p...@ieee.org .3com.comcc: Sent by: Subject: EN60950, 3rd Edition . . . owner-emc-pstc@iee e.org 05/15/00 08:46 AM Please respond to Carla Robinson Greetings! I am seeking information on when will the 3rd Edition of the EN60950, L.V. Directive, go into effect? When will it be ratified for the European Community? Carla Robinson 3Com Corp. 847-262-2494 carla_robin...@mw.3com.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: EN60950, 3rd Edition, and . . .
My advise is to have your products evaluated/tested to the old and new standards, and have this documented on your test report.I've done this before with UL standards.I've not had this experience with a CB Scheme report, but I fail to see why that should not be allowed.Later, when the new standard takes effect, you are covered. It is quite likely that the difference between the two is very minimal (as far as testing is concerned) and more time is spent determining whether the delta applies to your particular product;--- but this exercise is worth while! Tania Grant, tgr...@lucent.com mailto:tgr...@lucent.com Lucent Technologies, Intelligent Network Unit Messaging Solutions Group -- From: Ron Pickard [SMTP:rpick...@hypercom.com] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:23 AM To: Carla Robinson Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: EN60950, 3rd Edition, and . . . Carla et al, I had recently asked a similar question regarding IE60950 3rd Ed. and its acceptabilitty, which also included the CB Scheme. I received very little response which I think was due to many not knowing themselves. After thinking about this while this thread has now resurfaced, I feel that IEC60950 3rd will not and should not enter into the CB Scheme arena until the member countries have national/regional versions of IEC60950 3rd Ed. in place. The only region I know that is pursuing this is North America with its UL60950 3rd Ed. The rest of the regulatory standards making bodies appear to be silent regarding this (unless I've been keeping my head in the sand). This apparent reluctance to proceed may jeopardize the one-basic-standard approach the ITE community has grown familiar with. So, to all those out there with their ears to the grindstones of the standard-making bodies, is IEC60950 3rd Edition being adopted into, say, EN60950 3rd Ed. or AS/NZ 60950 3rd Ed.? Any others? Just some added questions and opinions thrown in and tossed about. Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com Carla Robinson Carla_Robinson@mwTo: emc-p...@ieee.org .3com.comcc: Sent by: Subject: EN60950, 3rd Edition . . . owner-emc-pstc@iee e.org 05/15/00 08:46 AM Please respond to Carla Robinson Greetings! I am seeking information on when will the 3rd Edition of the EN60950, L.V. Directive, go into effect? When will it be ratified for the European Community? Carla Robinson 3Com Corp. 847-262-2494 carla_robin...@mw.3com.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Re: EN60950, 3rd Edition, and . . .
Carla et al, I had recently asked a similar question regarding IE60950 3rd Ed. and its acceptabilitty, which also included the CB Scheme. I received very little response which I think was due to many not knowing themselves. After thinking about this while this thread has now resurfaced, I feel that IEC60950 3rd will not and should not enter into the CB Scheme arena until the member countries have national/regional versions of IEC60950 3rd Ed. in place. The only region I know that is pursuing this is North America with its UL60950 3rd Ed. The rest of the regulatory standards making bodies appear to be silent regarding this (unless I've been keeping my head in the sand). This apparent reluctance to proceed may jeopardize the one-basic-standard approach the ITE community has grown familiar with. So, to all those out there with their ears to the grindstones of the standard-making bodies, is IEC60950 3rd Edition being adopted into, say, EN60950 3rd Ed. or AS/NZ 60950 3rd Ed.? Any others? Just some added questions and opinions thrown in and tossed about. Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com Carla Robinson Carla_Robinson@mwTo: emc-p...@ieee.org .3com.comcc: Sent by: Subject: EN60950, 3rd Edition . . . owner-emc-pstc@iee e.org 05/15/00 08:46 AM Please respond to Carla Robinson Greetings! I am seeking information on when will the 3rd Edition of the EN60950, L.V. Directive, go into effect? When will it be ratified for the European Community? Carla Robinson 3Com Corp. 847-262-2494 carla_robin...@mw.3com.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
EN60950, 3rd Edition . . .
Greetings! I am seeking information on when will the 3rd Edition of the EN60950, L.V. Directive, go into effect? When will it be ratified for the European Community? Carla Robinson 3Com Corp. 847-262-2494 carla_robin...@mw.3com.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Re: EN60950 3rd Edition?
Ron, Below is the latest update that I have been given by a friend who actually sits in the IEC 950 technical committee. I hope this answers your questions. I have just received this. IEC 60950 3rd Edition was published 1999-04. CENELEC Technical Board (BT) has not yet ratified EN 60950 3rd Edition. CENELEC TC 74 had a meeting 1 July, a proposed Common Modification (CM) to 6.1. 2.1 was voted down. The request (from Finland, Norway and Sweden) for a Special National Condition, with the same wording as the proposed CM was left to the CENELEC Technical Board (BT) to decide. The BT met on 6-8 July, but the subject was postponed to their next meeting 28 September. Due to further consideration the September meeting decided the subject to be postponed to the next BT meeting (which will be held in December 1999). When a new EN is introduced, normally the CENELEC members fully start certifications to the new standard at it's date of publication (dop). When a standard is ratified (date of ratification (dor)) by CENELEC, there will normally be approximately one year time span to the date of publication (dop). In case of EN 60950 3rd ed., if ratiifed at the CENELEC BT meeting in December 1999, the date of publication (dop) will probably be the beginning of year 2001. Earlier start of certifications would be possible. -- Thanks Peter Regards Morten Andersen Standards Data and Electronics Department Nemko AS Tel: +47 22 96 04 89 Fax: +47 22 96 05 50 E-mail:morten.andersen - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
EN60950 3rd Edition?
To all that might be aware of this subject again, Is anyone aware of an effort for EN60950 going to 3rd Edition? And, when will the CB Scheme adopt IEC60950 3rd Edition? Is effectivity very soon, soon, not at all, never? Surely, someone must know something about these developments. Thank you Kevin Richardson for your reply regarding AS 3260. Anyone out there who has their ear into what's happening on these questions? Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
EN60950 3rd Edition?
Hi Ron, For Australia and New Zealand, AS/NZS 3260 closed it's public comment period on 7 Nov 99. Probably to be published early 2000. Also it will probably be numbered AS/NZS 60950 rather than than 3260. Best regards, Kevin Hello out there, I have some questions regarding the adoption if IEC60950 3rd Edition. 1) Now that IEC60950 3rd Ed. is now out and UL60950 3rd Ed. is out for review, when will EN60950 catch up and follow IEC60950 3rd Ed.? 2) And for that matter, how about AS/NZ 3260 and other 950 derivatives? 3) When will the CB Scheme adopt IEC60950 3rd Ed.? I'm trying to get a time frame when (if ever) the respective standards will be upgraded. And, I'm sure the group would be interested to know more. Anyone out there who has their ear into what's happening on these questions? Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). --- Internet Header Sender: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org Received: from ruebert.ieee.org (ruebert.ieee.org [199.172.136.3]) by spdmgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) with ESMTP id NAA03479; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:56:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by ruebert.ieee.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08716; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:52:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: EN60950 3rd Edition? To: emc-p...@ieee.org Cc: X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.1a August 17, 1999 Message-ID: ofc52cf83c.bf2f542d-on07256832.00665...@hypercom.com From: Ron Pickard/Hypercom/US rpick...@hypercom.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:48:45 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on AZPHXN01/Hypercom/US(Release 5.0.1a|August 17, 1999) at 11/23/99 11:48:46 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ron Pickard/Hypercom/US rpick...@hypercom.com X-Resent-To: Multiple Recipients emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org X-Listname: emc-pstc X-Info: Help requests to emc-pstc-requ...@majordomo.ieee.org X-Info: [Un]Subscribe requests to majord...@majordomo.ieee.org X-Moderator-Address: emc-pstc-appro...@majordomo.ieee.org Best regards, Kevin Richardson Stanimore Pty Limited (Technology Products Standards, Regulations and Compliance Specialists) Ph: 02-4329-4070Fax:02-4328-5639 Int'l: +61-2-4329-4070 +61-2-4328-5639 Email: k...@compuserve.com (Internet) kevin.richard...@ieee.org (Alternate Internet #1) k...@technologist.com (Alternate Internet #2) 100356,374 (Compuserve) - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
EN60950 3rd Edition?
Hello out there, I have some questions regarding the adoption if IEC60950 3rd Edition. 1) Now that IEC60950 3rd Ed. is now out and UL60950 3rd Ed. is out for review, when will EN60950 catch up and follow IEC60950 3rd Ed.? 2) And for that matter, how about AS/NZ 3260 and other 950 derivatives? 3) When will the CB Scheme adopt IEC60950 3rd Ed.? I'm trying to get a time frame when (if ever) the respective standards will be upgraded. And, I'm sure the group would be interested to know more. Anyone out there who has their ear into what's happening on these questions? Best regards, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
