RE: EU Directive on Measuring Instruments

1997-02-07 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
Originally, I  wrote:

> I understand that there is a directive concerning measuring instruments?
> Does anyone know the directive number? Does anyone know the scope of the
> directive?


Here is the results of my investigation. The following is paraphrased
from Directive 90/384/EEC which covers "non-authomatic weighing
instruments"

A weighing instrument determines mass. A non-automatic weighing
instrument  requires the intervention of an operator during operation.
(I guess a keystroke on a cash register to capture the data would count
as an intervention)

In cases where the instrument includes or is connected to devices which
are not used for mass determination, such devices are not subject to the
directive. (I would think that reporting the determination would not be
a problem as long as the mass had already been determined. However, that
is how we are being challenged- i.e, are we accurately  reporting the
data.)

Anyone out there have any dealings in this area where you manufacture an
electronic device that reports data from a "non-automatic weighing
instrument? I guess cash registers would fall into this camp.


Kopie von: EU Directive on Measuring Instruments

1997-01-24 Thread Jan M. Olaf

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Richard,

the EU Directive on Measuring Instruments (Metro 6), of course, is no fairytale.

It is an upcoming EU directive which was discussed from time to time in 1996.
Now, in 1997, it is pushed forward and should be discussed as a draft in the
European Committee in September/October 97.

The proposed directive concerns metrological properties and EMC, and would
repeal the Non-Automatic Weighing Instruments Directive 90/384/EEC.
That means, all instruments used in applications for trading (e.g. weighing
instruments,
flowmeters in filling stations etc.) are concerned.

If adopted, it would enter into force from 1 January 2000, with a transmission
period until 31 December 2009.

The Directive is unusual in that it leaves Member States free to decide
individually
for which applications they will prescribe the use of metrologically approves
measuring instruments.

Best regards

Jan M. Olaf
Endress+Hauser (International) Holding

101350.2...@compuserve.com
Tel: +41-61-715 6595


Re: EU Directive on Measuring Instruments

1997-01-23 Thread Alan Hudson
Richard Woods  wrote: 

> I understand that there is a directive concerning
> measuring instruments? Does anyone know the directive
> number? Does anyone know the scope of the directive?

G'Day!

I looked up my copy of the May 1996 "...Links between
Products, Directives and Standards..." and could not find
any specific Directive, so either it doesn't exist or it's
later than March/April 96. The only Directive listed
against Measuring Instruments (mostly analogue type) and
Measuring devices (mostly meters) was the LVD and EMC
ones.

The nearest I got was:
71/316/EEC - Measuring Instruments and methods for 
metrological Control.
This has been amended three times by Directives 72/427/EEC, 
83/575/EEC, and 87/355/EEC.

Sorry, that's all I could find out...



-- 
Alan Hudson
email: hud...@msim.co.uk



Re: EU Directive on Measuring Instruments

1997-01-22 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
Thanks, Eric, this might come in handy, but I'm really looking for a
Directive, not a standard.  I have run across 71/316/EEC covering
"measuring instruments and methods of metrological control", but I don't
know if that is the one I'm really looking for. The darn thing better
exist. I found it referenced on the DTI's National Weights and
Measurements Laboratory (UK) web site.
 --
From: eric.lif...@natinst.com
To: WOODS, RICHARD; Safety; EMC
Subject: Re: EU Directive on Measuring Instruments
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Date: Wednesday, January 22, 1997 11:23AM

  Richard et al,

  I think you're asking about IEC-1326, to eventually become
EN61326,
  which is entitled:

   EMC requirements for electrical equipment for measurement,
control,
  and laboratory use

  IEC-1326 is in draft (last I know), but relatively stable.  It is
  expected to contain 4 sections:

   General requirements,
   Particular requirements for equipment used in industrial
locations,
   Particular requirements for equipment used in laboratories or
test
  and measurement areas with a controlled electromagnetic
environment,
   Particular requirements for portable test and measurement
equipment
  that is powered by battery or from the circuit being measured.

  In its current form IEC-1326 contains the expanded set of basic
  immunity standards (IEC 1000-x-x) - plus the CISPR 11/22 emission
and
  the power harmonics & flicker requirements.

  Though it contains all the nasty new immunity tests, it does a
good
  job of defining the Performance Criteria; something sorely needed.
  If the proposed portable section is adopted as drafted, the
immunity
  severity levels are dramatically reduced and some tests dropped.

  Eric Lifsey
  National Instruments
  (512) 433-8474

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Subject: EU Directive on Measuring Instruments
From:"WOODS; RICHARD"  at Internet
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Date:1/21/97  4:21 PM

I understand that there is a directive concerning measuring instruments?
Does anyone know the directive number? Does anyone know the scope of the
directive?

Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics

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Re: EU Directive on Measuring Instruments

1997-01-22 Thread Eric Lifsey
  Richard et al,
  
  I think you're asking about IEC-1326, to eventually become EN61326, 
  which is entitled: 
  
   EMC requirements for electrical equipment for measurement, control, 
  and laboratory use
  
  IEC-1326 is in draft (last I know), but relatively stable.  It is 
  expected to contain 4 sections:
  
   General requirements,
   Particular requirements for equipment used in industrial locations,
   Particular requirements for equipment used in laboratories or test 
  and measurement areas with a controlled electromagnetic environment,
   Particular requirements for portable test and measurement equipment 
  that is powered by battery or from the circuit being measured.
  
  In its current form IEC-1326 contains the expanded set of basic 
  immunity standards (IEC 1000-x-x) - plus the CISPR 11/22 emission and 
  the power harmonics & flicker requirements.
  
  Though it contains all the nasty new immunity tests, it does a good 
  job of defining the Performance Criteria; something sorely needed.  
  If the proposed portable section is adopted as drafted, the immunity 
  severity levels are dramatically reduced and some tests dropped.
  
  Eric Lifsey
  National Instruments
  (512) 433-8474
  
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EU Directive on Measuring Instruments

1997-01-22 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
I understand that there is a directive concerning measuring instruments?
Does anyone know the directive number? Does anyone know the scope of the
directive?

Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics