RE: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe

[Jim Eichner]

Quite right John - thanks for catching the slip.

Here's my amended running compilation:
 
- Japan - Has requirements based on the previous rev. of 61000-3-2 (still
has the "special waveshape" in it) that appear to be guidelines only (ie
voluntary) unless you are a member of JEITA. 

- China - standard is GB17625.1, presently aligned to IEC61000-3-2:1995,
amendment 1 (reflecting EN61000-3-2:A14) is in the works.

- USA - IEEE 519 covers distortion, which is related to harmonic content.
It is a utility standard that doesn't seem likely to get applied to product
approvals.  I was also told that it seems "exceedingly unlikely...that the
present edition of IEC 61000-3-2" will get adopted in the US.

- Australia / New Zealand -  I'm told the "current edition of IEC 61000-3-2
is being studied, but the level of controversy over it makes adoption
unlikely".

- Korea - "moving in this direction"
For the forum, here's my amended running compilation.  If anyone has
anything more to add, I'll keep this going for a while.

Jim Eichner, P.Eng. 
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From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:41 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe



I read in !emc-pstc that Jim Eichner  wrote (in
<67C475A5ECE7D4118AEC0002B325CAB60176826D@BCMAIL1>) about 'PFC or
Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe' on Fri, 6 Sep 2002:
>- China - standard is GB17625.1, presently aligned to
IEC61000-3-2:1995, 
>amendment 1 (EN60950:A14) is in the works.
>

No, that 'amendment 1' is EN61000-3-2:A14. EN 60950 has nothing to do
with it.
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RE: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe

[Joshua Wiseman]

Tom,

As I understand it, if you are a member of JEITA then it is a requirement.

Regards,
Josh

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From: T.Sato [mailto:vef00...@nifty.ne.jp]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:06 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe



On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:36:50 -0700,
  Jim Eichner  wrote:

> Joshua:  Re Japan, I didn't have much luck on the JEITA website.  Can you
> give me a specific reference (standard name/number, URL, etc.)?  Also, is
> there a list of what types of products this requirement applies to?

http://home.jeita.or.jp/eps/harmonics/guideline/data/guideline_eng.pdf

It is a "guideline" issued by Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry,
and I think it can be applied to almost any products if you want.

Regards,
Tom

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Re: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe

[John Woodgate]

I read in !emc-pstc that Wagner, John P (John) 
wrote (in <4203D61676D0AE468AA5CEA90A891C13012FAB6A@cof110avexu4.global.
avaya.com>) about 'PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe'
on Fri, 30 Aug 2002:

>IEEE 519 is a Recommended Practice.  It suggests voltage distortion limits at 
>the Point of Common Coupling based upon the customer load vs short circuit 
>current capabillity.  It has nothing to do with paroduct harmonics.  

Well, that last sentence is a bit misleading. IEEE 519 certainly doesn't
apply to individual products (unless someone had a single high-power
product as his whole load), but the OP asks about 'PFC or Harmonic
Current Limitations outside Europe', not specifically about limits for
products. Clearly, the harmonic currents produced by the products on a
site are responsible for *part* of the voltage distortion measured at
the site's PCC, the rest being due to all the other non-linear loads on
the system.

>It is not a 
>regulation, but electric utilities may adopt it as a company requirement for 
>customers to meet.

Yes, a 'de facto standard' or 'contractually enforced requirement'.
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Re: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe

[John Woodgate]

I read in !emc-pstc that Jim Eichner  wrote (in
<67C475A5ECE7D4118AEC0002B325CAB60176820C@BCMAIL1>) about 'PFC or
Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe' on Fri, 30 Aug 2002:

>Re the US:  Is IEEE519 given force in any way?  Is there any agency, body,
>or utility that is requiring IEEE519 compliance?
>
>Re Japan:  Do you know the name/number of the "trial standard" and where I
>can find a list of what types of products it applies to?

Sorry, I don't know answers to either of those questions. I understand
that some Canadian electricity suppliers (Hydro Quebec?) ARE applying
IEEE 519 to selected customers.
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RE: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe

[T.Sato]

On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:36:50 -0700,
  Jim Eichner  wrote:

> Joshua:  Re Japan, I didn't have much luck on the JEITA website.  Can you
> give me a specific reference (standard name/number, URL, etc.)?  Also, is
> there a list of what types of products this requirement applies to?

http://home.jeita.or.jp/eps/harmonics/guideline/data/guideline_eng.pdf

It is a "guideline" issued by Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry,
and I think it can be applied to almost any products if you want.

Regards,
Tom

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RE: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe

[Wagner, John P (John)]

IEEE 519 is a Recommended Practice.  It suggests voltage distortion limits at 
the Point of Common Coupling based upon the customer load vs short circuit 
current capabillity.  It has nothing to do with paroduct harmonics.  It is not 
a regulation, but electric utilities may adopt it as a company requirement for 
customers to meet.
John P. Wagner
Regulatory Compliance & Mandatory Standards
AVAYA Strategic Standards.
1300 W. 120th Ave, Room B3-D16
Westminster, CO 80234-2726
Phone/Fax: (303) 538-4241
johnwag...@avaya.com






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> From: Jim Eichner[SMTP:jim.eich...@xantrex.com]
> Reply To: Jim Eichner
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:39 PM
> To:   'EMC-PSTC - forum'
> Subject:  RE: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe
> 
> 
> John:  
> 
> Re the US:  Is IEEE519 given force in any way?  Is there any agency, body,
> or utility that is requiring IEEE519 compliance?
> 
> Re Japan:  Do you know the name/number of the "trial standard" and where I
> can find a list of what types of products it applies to?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jim Eichner, P.Eng. 
> Manager, Engineering Services 
> Xantrex Technology Inc. 
> phone: (604) 422-2546 
> fax: (604) 420-1591 
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> -Original Message-
> From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:54 PM
> To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe
> 
> 
> 
> I read in !emc-pstc that Jim Eichner  wrote (in
> <67C475A5ECE7D4118AEC0002B325CAB6017681D7@BCMAIL1>) about 'PFC or
> Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe' on Mon, 26 Aug 2002:
> 
> >Can anyone provide any information on the requirements for (or lack of) PFC
> >or harmonic current limitation now or in the future, in the following
> areas:
> >
> >1. Japan
> 
> Japan has had a 'trial standard' for some years. It is not the same as
> IEC/EN 61000-3-2, but is based on it. It does not apply to everything,
> as the EN does.
> 
> >2. North America (I think I've heard rumours)
> 
> There is already IEEE 519. I think it is exceedingly unlikely that USA
> will adopt the present edition of IEC 61000-3-2, particularly since it
> doesn't claim to apply to 120V 60 Hz systems.
> 
> >3. Australia / New Zealand
> 
> I understand that the current edition of IEC 61000-3-2 is being studied,
> but the level of controversy over it makes adoption unlikely.
> -- 
> Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk
> 
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RE: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe

[Jim Eichner]

John:  

Re the US:  Is IEEE519 given force in any way?  Is there any agency, body,
or utility that is requiring IEEE519 compliance?

Re Japan:  Do you know the name/number of the "trial standard" and where I
can find a list of what types of products it applies to?

Thanks,

Jim Eichner, P.Eng. 
Manager, Engineering Services 
Xantrex Technology Inc. 
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-Original Message-
From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:54 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe



I read in !emc-pstc that Jim Eichner  wrote (in
<67C475A5ECE7D4118AEC0002B325CAB6017681D7@BCMAIL1>) about 'PFC or
Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe' on Mon, 26 Aug 2002:

>Can anyone provide any information on the requirements for (or lack of) PFC
>or harmonic current limitation now or in the future, in the following
areas:
>
>1. Japan

Japan has had a 'trial standard' for some years. It is not the same as
IEC/EN 61000-3-2, but is based on it. It does not apply to everything,
as the EN does.

>2. North America (I think I've heard rumours)

There is already IEEE 519. I think it is exceedingly unlikely that USA
will adopt the present edition of IEC 61000-3-2, particularly since it
doesn't claim to apply to 120V 60 Hz systems.

>3. Australia / New Zealand

I understand that the current edition of IEC 61000-3-2 is being studied,
but the level of controversy over it makes adoption unlikely.
-- 
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RE: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe

[Jim Eichner]

Joshua:  Re Japan, I didn't have much luck on the JEITA website.  Can you
give me a specific reference (standard name/number, URL, etc.)?  Also, is
there a list of what types of products this requirement applies to?
 
Thanks,

Jim Eichner, P.Eng.
Manager, Engineering Services
Xantrex Technology Inc.
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From: Joshua Wiseman [mailto:jwise...@printronix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:34 AM
To: 'Jim Eichner'; 'EMC-PSTC - forum'
Subject: RE: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe



Jim, 

When China converted to the CCC approval scheme they adopted the Chinese
version of EN 61000-3-2. 

Japan has a requirement under JEITA to test harmonics at 120V while using an
impedance in line. 

I have heard that Australia and Korea are also moving in this direction. 

Taiwan follows the US for the most part and I have not heard anything in
this arena. 

I am curious to hear the responses you get on this one.  Good luck. 

Regards, 
Josh 

Josh Wiseman 
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(714) 368-2737 
[ mailto:jwise...@printronix.com <mailto:jwise...@printronix.com> ] 


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<mailto:jim.eich...@xantrex.com> ] 
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 12:33 PM 
To: 'EMC-PSTC - forum' 
Subject: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe 



Can anyone provide any information on the requirements for (or lack of) PFC 
or harmonic current limitation now or in the future, in the following areas:


1. Japan 
2. North America (I think I've heard rumours) 
3. Australia / New Zealand 
4. Any other location you are aware of where it definitely IS a requirement 

Thanks as always for the group's input. 

Regards, 
Jim Eichner, P.Eng. 
Manager, Engineering Services 
Xantrex Technology Inc. 
Mobile Power 
web: www.xantrex.com < http://www.xantrex.com <http://www.xantrex.com> > 
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RE: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe

[Joshua Wiseman]

Jim,

When China converted to the CCC approval scheme they adopted the Chinese
version of EN 61000-3-2.

Japan has a requirement under JEITA to test harmonics at 120V while using an
impedance in line.

I have heard that Australia and Korea are also moving in this direction.

Taiwan follows the US for the most part and I have not heard anything in
this arena.

I am curious to hear the responses you get on this one.  Good luck.

Regards,
Josh

Josh Wiseman
EMC/Product Safety
(714) 368-2737
[mailto:jwise...@printronix.com]


-Original Message-
From: Jim Eichner [mailto:jim.eich...@xantrex.com]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 12:33 PM
To: 'EMC-PSTC - forum'
Subject: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe



Can anyone provide any information on the requirements for (or lack of) PFC
or harmonic current limitation now or in the future, in the following areas:

1. Japan
2. North America (I think I've heard rumours)
3. Australia / New Zealand
4. Any other location you are aware of where it definitely IS a requirement

Thanks as always for the group's input.

Regards, 
Jim Eichner, P.Eng. 
Manager, Engineering Services 
Xantrex Technology Inc. 
Mobile Power
web: www.xantrex.com <http://www.xantrex.com> 
Any opinions expressed are those of my invisible friend, who really exists.
Honest.


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Re: PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe

[John Woodgate]

I read in !emc-pstc that Jim Eichner  wrote (in
<67C475A5ECE7D4118AEC0002B325CAB6017681D7@BCMAIL1>) about 'PFC or
Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe' on Mon, 26 Aug 2002:

>Can anyone provide any information on the requirements for (or lack of) PFC
>or harmonic current limitation now or in the future, in the following areas:
>
>1. Japan

Japan has had a 'trial standard' for some years. It is not the same as
IEC/EN 61000-3-2, but is based on it. It does not apply to everything,
as the EN does.

>2. North America (I think I've heard rumours)

There is already IEEE 519. I think it is exceedingly unlikely that USA
will adopt the present edition of IEC 61000-3-2, particularly since it
doesn't claim to apply to 120V 60 Hz systems.

>3. Australia / New Zealand

I understand that the current edition of IEC 61000-3-2 is being studied,
but the level of controversy over it makes adoption unlikely.
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PFC or Harmonic Current Limitations outside Europe

[Jim Eichner]

Can anyone provide any information on the requirements for (or lack of) PFC
or harmonic current limitation now or in the future, in the following areas:

1. Japan
2. North America (I think I've heard rumours)
3. Australia / New Zealand
4. Any other location you are aware of where it definitely IS a requirement

Thanks as always for the group's input.

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