RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court
Uhmmm ... This makes me wonder about this display monitor in front of me. Didn't I read somewhere... Bandele -Original Message- From: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com [mailto:kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 9:28 AM To: rbus...@es.com; gil...@nortelnetworks.com; peter.tar...@sanmina.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court Interesting, Guess the power companies will be the next target since the jury still seems to be out on impacts of low frequency E-H fields. We already know the pollution generated by companies (which also fuel the economy) is bad. Can I sue? I can't get away from it unless I buy bottled air...a niche market of the future no doubt. Does the plaintiff just want a free headset? The article discusses the use of headsets with the implication of their use as a method of reduction of exposure. Weren't there studies conducted indicating that some headsets on some phones increased the radiation levels? Besides, even if supplied, how do you prove the headset was/was not used? There's always testimonials I suppose. Hot dogs. What do they feed the critters that end up on every child's plate in the form of a weenie? Are the critter feeds sprayed with pesticides and herbicides? Do the critter-feed pesticides/herbicides bear the warning of "might be harmful if consumed"? I wonder how far David will get against goliath? The legal folks are sure to benefit and we'll all see yet another definition of dangerous. My opinion only and not that of my employer. Kaz Gawrzyjal -Original Message- From: rbus...@es.com [mailto:rbus...@es.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 11:01 AM To: gil...@nortelnetworks.com; peter.tar...@sanmina.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court The difference is that everyone knows that a car can be dangerous. IF cell phones are proven hazardous, most people would not be aware or understand the risk. Im not saying that these aligations are valid, but it does make sense to keep informed. Rick Busche -Original Message- From: Mark Gill [mailto:gil...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:33 AM To: peter.tar...@sanmina.com; 'PSTC - articles 1' Subject: RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court Funny thing - automobile manufacturers are making and selling cars with the knowledge that they may be dangerous! -Original Message- From: Tarver, Peter [SC1:9031:EXCH] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:32 AM To: PSTC - articles 1 Subject:Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court From the Telecom Digest Monty Solomon wrote: > > Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court > > NEW ORLEANS, La. - In ruling that could shake the cell phone industry, a federal judge let stand a lawsuit that says companies are making and selling cell phones with the knowledge that they may be dangerous. > > http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html <http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html> > -- > The Telecom Digest is currently mostly robomoderated. Please mail > messages to edi...@telecom-digest.org.
RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court
I just couldn't resist. How many times do I have to tell you about blow drying your hair in the shower? JOHN E. STUCKEY -Original Message- From: Bill Ronzio [mailto:bill.ron...@flextronics.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:14 To: 'Mark Gill'; peter.tar...@sanmina.com; 'PSTC - articles 1' Subject: RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court And how about those Chain Saws, there sharp! -Original Message- From: Mark Gill [mailto:gil...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:33 AM To: peter.tar...@sanmina.com; 'PSTC - articles 1' Subject: RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court Funny thing - automobile manufacturers are making and selling cars with the knowledge that they may be dangerous! -Original Message- From: Tarver, Peter [SC1:9031:EXCH] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:32 AM To: PSTC - articles 1 Subject:Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court From the Telecom Digest Monty Solomon wrote: > > Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court > > NEW ORLEANS, La. - In ruling that could shake the cell phone industry, a federal judge let stand a lawsuit that says companies are making and selling cell phones with the knowledge that they may be dangerous. > > http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html <http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html> > -- > The Telecom Digest is currently mostly robomoderated. Please mail > messages to edi...@telecom-digest.org. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court
I sure hope my Colt Python is very dangerous, but in only one direction! Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA. USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military & Avionics EMC Services Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis -Original Message- From: Bill Ronzio [mailto:bill.ron...@flextronics.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 11:14 AM To: 'Mark Gill'; peter.tar...@sanmina.com; 'PSTC - articles 1' Subject: RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court And how about those Chain Saws, there sharp! -Original Message- From: Mark Gill [mailto:gil...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:33 AM To: peter.tar...@sanmina.com; 'PSTC - articles 1' Subject: RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court Funny thing - automobile manufacturers are making and selling cars with the knowledge that they may be dangerous! -Original Message- From: Tarver, Peter [SC1:9031:EXCH] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:32 AM To: PSTC - articles 1 Subject:Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court >From the Telecom Digest Monty Solomon wrote: > > Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court > > NEW ORLEANS, La. - In ruling that could shake the cell phone industry, a federal judge let stand a lawsuit that says companies are making and selling cell phones with the knowledge that they may be dangerous. > > http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html > -- > The Telecom Digest is currently mostly robomoderated. Please mail > messages to edi...@telecom-digest.org. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court
The same is easily said of other products, Rick, like firearms (where there are politically motivated lawsuits in progress and also directly analogous to the tobacco lawsuits on many levels), hot coffee from MacDonalds, ad infinitum. That a product is known to be hazardous or dangerous is not particularly relevant to lawsuits of this type. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina Homologation Services peter.tar...@sanmina.com -Original Message- From: rbus...@es.com [mailto:rbus...@es.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 9:01 AM The difference is that everyone knows that a car can be dangerous. IF cell phones are proven hazardous, most people would not be aware or understand the risk. Im not saying that these aligations are valid, but it does make sense to keep informed. Rick Busche -Original Message- From: Mark Gill [mailto:gil...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:33 AM Funny thing - automobile manufacturers are making and selling cars with the knowledge that they may be dangerous! -Original Message- From: Tarver, Peter [SC1:9031:EXCH] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:32 AM > NEW ORLEANS, La. - In ruling that could shake the cell phone industry, a federal judge let stand a lawsuit that says companies are making and selling cell phones with the knowledge that they may be dangerous. > > http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html
RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court
And how about those Chain Saws, there sharp! -Original Message- From: Mark Gill [mailto:gil...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:33 AM To: peter.tar...@sanmina.com; 'PSTC - articles 1' Subject: RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court Funny thing - automobile manufacturers are making and selling cars with the knowledge that they may be dangerous! -Original Message- From: Tarver, Peter [SC1:9031:EXCH] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:32 AM To: PSTC - articles 1 Subject:Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court From the Telecom Digest Monty Solomon wrote: > > Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court > > NEW ORLEANS, La. - In ruling that could shake the cell phone industry, a federal judge let stand a lawsuit that says companies are making and selling cell phones with the knowledge that they may be dangerous. > > http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html <http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html> > -- > The Telecom Digest is currently mostly robomoderated. Please mail > messages to edi...@telecom-digest.org.
RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court
Interesting, Guess the power companies will be the next target since the jury still seems to be out on impacts of low frequency E-H fields. We already know the pollution generated by companies (which also fuel the economy) is bad. Can I sue? I can't get away from it unless I buy bottled air...a niche market of the future no doubt. Does the plaintiff just want a free headset? The article discusses the use of headsets with the implication of their use as a method of reduction of exposure. Weren't there studies conducted indicating that some headsets on some phones increased the radiation levels? Besides, even if supplied, how do you prove the headset was/was not used? There's always testimonials I suppose. Hot dogs. What do they feed the critters that end up on every child's plate in the form of a weenie? Are the critter feeds sprayed with pesticides and herbicides? Do the critter-feed pesticides/herbicides bear the warning of "might be harmful if consumed"? I wonder how far David will get against goliath? The legal folks are sure to benefit and we'll all see yet another definition of dangerous. My opinion only and not that of my employer. Kaz Gawrzyjal -Original Message- From: rbus...@es.com [mailto:rbus...@es.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 11:01 AM To: gil...@nortelnetworks.com; peter.tar...@sanmina.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court The difference is that everyone knows that a car can be dangerous. IF cell phones are proven hazardous, most people would not be aware or understand the risk. Im not saying that these aligations are valid, but it does make sense to keep informed. Rick Busche -Original Message- From: Mark Gill [mailto:gil...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:33 AM To: peter.tar...@sanmina.com; 'PSTC - articles 1' Subject: RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court Funny thing - automobile manufacturers are making and selling cars with the knowledge that they may be dangerous! -Original Message- From: Tarver, Peter [SC1:9031:EXCH] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:32 AM To: PSTC - articles 1 Subject:Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court From the Telecom Digest Monty Solomon wrote: > > Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court > > NEW ORLEANS, La. - In ruling that could shake the cell phone industry, a federal judge let stand a lawsuit that says companies are making and selling cell phones with the knowledge that they may be dangerous. > > http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html <http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html> > -- > The Telecom Digest is currently mostly robomoderated. Please mail > messages to edi...@telecom-digest.org.
RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court
The difference is that everyone knows that a car can be dangerous. IF cell phones are proven hazardous, most people would not be aware or understand the risk. Im not saying that these aligations are valid, but it does make sense to keep informed. Rick Busche -Original Message- From: Mark Gill [mailto:gil...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:33 AM To: peter.tar...@sanmina.com; 'PSTC - articles 1' Subject: RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court Funny thing - automobile manufacturers are making and selling cars with the knowledge that they may be dangerous! -Original Message- From: Tarver, Peter [SC1:9031:EXCH] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:32 AM To: PSTC - articles 1 Subject:Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court From the Telecom Digest Monty Solomon wrote: > > Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court > > NEW ORLEANS, La. - In ruling that could shake the cell phone industry, a federal judge let stand a lawsuit that says companies are making and selling cell phones with the knowledge that they may be dangerous. > > http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html <http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html> > -- > The Telecom Digest is currently mostly robomoderated. Please mail > messages to edi...@telecom-digest.org.
RE: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court
Funny thing - automobile manufacturers are making and selling cars with the knowledge that they may be dangerous! > -Original Message- > From: Tarver, Peter [SC1:9031:EXCH] > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:32 AM > To: PSTC - articles 1 > Subject: Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court > > From the Telecom Digest > > Monty Solomon wrote: > > > > Cell Phone Suit Will Get Its Day in Court > > > > NEW ORLEANS, La. - In ruling that could shake the cell phone industry, a > federal judge let stand a lawsuit that says companies are making and > selling cell phones with the knowledge that they may be dangerous. > > > > http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,21540,00.html > > -- > > The Telecom Digest is currently mostly robomoderated. Please mail > > messages to edi...@telecom-digest.org.
