Re: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services
I read in !emc-pstc that Bill Lyons b...@lyons.demon.co.uk wrote (in 97...@lyons.demon.co.uk) about 'Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services' on Thu, 2 Jan 2003: As an alternative, if sadly EMC-PSTC does go this retrograde way, we could all simply move to the sci.engr.electrical.compliance (s.e.e.c) newsgroup, which is receivable on anything from basic DOS software up and at any connection speed. The only disadvantage is it is not moderated, but it is a pretty low traffic group and there would be no difficulty identifying professional contributions. It's also free of deliberate disruption, although there are sometimes naive questions about which cable to use for wiring power to a garage or similar. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services
This won't work. If you want to look at how badly online forums work, look at the IEE website. Maybe one of the group can set up a list server elsewhere if the IEEE is sure it wants to stop the service. Luke Turnbull. Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com 12/31/02 06:19pm Effective today, we are replacing our web-based services. Old: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ New: https://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc The archive has been moved to the new web site, but is not yet up and running. We'll keep you posted as to when we have it available. This new site does not have listserver capability. However, it does send personal e-mail notices (daily, weekly, or monthly) when a discussion item has been posted to the site. The notice includes a link directly to that specific posting. Furthermore, you can select the discussions which are of interest to you (as opposed to getting all discussion items). When a message is posted to the site, the system will notify the poster as to replies, and will notify all members that the posting has been made. The web-based service offers opportunity for posting of papers and similar items. The site already has a few contributions, some of which were moved from the old site. We'd like to see an electronic version of the old Product Safety Newsletter that had so many good technical papers and news. We feel this e-community is a good step to the formation of the Product Safety Society. (You'll find news and listings of officers and chapters on this site.) Please check out the new web-based service. We call it an e-community. At the moment, if you want to participate in this e-community, please contact either of us Rich Nute or Jim Bacher, or Marilyn Catis at IEEE, mg.ca...@ieee.org. (One of us needs to subscribe you to the e-community.) To the extent that we can, we'd like to move our activity to the web rather than use the listserver. If you have difficulty connecting to the site, or if you have comments, please contact either of us, or Marilyn Catis. Best wishes for the New Year! Richard Nute Jim Bacher co-administrators, IEEE emc-pstc forums Replies to this message may be posted in the following public forum: Change in emc-pstc web-based services ( ttp://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/direct/topic/a/ID547374) This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services
I shall be sorry to lose access to the daily interchange among the EMC professionals who've made this list worth subscribing to. Provision of a link in e-mails is not even a poor substitute for those of us who wish to use off-line readers. This is reminiscent, in its own inexorable way, to the creation of neighborhoods where no one can even buy food without driving. The necessity for Web access will also, I believe, reduce participation by members whose connections are billed by the minute, a situation often the case in nations other than the United States. I see a side-effect of cutting off their access to EMC and PSTC matters, or at least rendering it more expensive, and less frequent. Cortland Richmond This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services
I would have to agree with the last few posts. My business partner and I are adding forums on our new site as more of a courtesy for those that are interested. When we were deciding on this, we thought about approaching the IEEE and ask them to have us host their forums/listserv. Of course this would have driven a lot of traffic through our website and would have made stats look that much better, and our biggest reason for possibly doing this was to be able to allow for precise topic/keyword searching. We only came up with one problem which prevented us from ever approaching the IEEE, convenience. The listserver provides the information to you, you don't have to go and look for it, it is always there in your inbox in a compact(usually)format. I am curious as to how the decision was made for this change? Where the members who have signed up for this listserve asked for their thoughts or input on changing such a fundamental functionality issue? Is there a chance for reconsidering? My personal opinion is that this is not a good idea. I know that even with high speed access, there are weeks where I do not open my browser, I just check email. Just my 2 cents Garry Hojan SCS www.regulatory-compliance.com From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Pommerenke, David Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 8:55 AM To: John Woodgate; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services Dear Group, My experience is that with WEB-based systems there will be significantly less participation. Posting of large documents, as people will not carefully think about file size, compression down-sampling etc will make it worse for people on dial-up connections. Discussions will be based on the knowledge of those documents. Without strong reason the present system should not be changed. I am not aware of those strong reasons. David Pommerenke This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services
Without the list server, you will lose a massive following. This includes myself. Tony Nikolassy T-Tech Engineering Labs
Re: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services
John has succinctly summed up the situation that many of us find ourselves in. It is a shame that the internet community is being divided into the haves and havenots (broadband vs. dial up). I for one refuse to be forced to upgrade to broadband from my very satisfactory $7.50/month current internet account. As one who has had an email address (and Unix shell account) back in the days before most people ever even HEARD of the internet, I am saddened by the current trend towards massively increased content that is wiping out much of the benefits gained from better and faster hardware. I still use the ALT functions in web pages I write to insure that they are lynx friendly. Scott Lacey On 1 Jan 2003 at 9:00, John Woodgate wrote: It seems to me that the web site system is OK for people with 'always- on' connection, but for those of us on dial- up, especially pay-as-you-go dial up, it will be too expensive to justify participation. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services
Dear Group, My experience is that with WEB-based systems there will be significantly less participation. Posting of large documents, as people will not carefully think about file size, compression down-sampling etc will make it worse for people on dial-up connections. Discussions will be based on the knowledge of those documents. Without strong reason the present system should not be changed. I am not aware of those strong reasons. David Pommerenke This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services
In message 44+byya84qe+e...@jmwa.demon.co.uk John Woodgate writes: It seems to me that the web site system is OK for people with 'always- on' connection, but for those of us on dial-up, especially pay-as-you-go dial up, it will be too expensive to justify participation. I strongly support John's comment. Best wishes to all for the New Year. Bill -- Bill Lyons - b...@lyons.demon.co.uk / w.ly...@ieee.org This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web-based services
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in SR- 547...@ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com) about 'Changes to IEEE emc-pstc web- based services' on Tue, 31 Dec 2002: To the extent that we can, we'd like to move our activity to the web rather than use the listserver. It seems to me that the web site system is OK for people with 'always- on' connection, but for those of us on dial-up, especially pay-as-you-go dial up, it will be too expensive to justify participation. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
