RE: EN 61000-3-2/A14
I just checked the CENELEC website, looked under Standardization Activities, searched for EN 61000-3-2, and found the following information regarding amendment prA14:2000 (the Class A - Class D amendment): Project Number: 13725 DOA: July 1, 20001 DOP: January 1, 2002 !!! It was reported earlier on this email group that the DOA for A14 was in December 2000 and DOP was expected to be January 1, 2001. What gives? Is the CENELEC web site just not up to date, or are the earlier dates erroneous? Many thanks to anyone who can authoritatively assist here. Paul O'Shaughnessy -Original Message- From: O'Shaughnessy, Paul [mailto:paul_oshaughne...@affymetrix.com] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 2:56 PM To: 'wo...@sensormatic.com'; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: EN 61000-3-2/A14 Absolutely correct - I was making the assumption that the dop corresponds to the date of publication in the OJ of the EC. Paul O'S. -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:24 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: EN 61000-3-2/A14 Don't forget that an EMC standard cannot be used to self-declare compliance until and unless it is published in the OJ. Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: EN 61000-3-2/A14
Absolutely correct - I was making the assumption that the dop corresponds to the date of publication in the OJ of the EC. Paul O'S. -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:24 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: EN 61000-3-2/A14 Don't forget that an EMC standard cannot be used to self-declare compliance until and unless it is published in the OJ. Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: EN 61000-3-2/A14
Don't forget that an EMC standard cannot be used to self-declare compliance until and unless it is published in the OJ. Richard Woods -- From: O'Shaughnessy, Paul [SMTP:paul_oshaughne...@affymetrix.com] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 10:28 AM To: 'Nick Rouse'; Friedemann Adt Cc: EMC Subject: RE: EN 61000-3-2/A14 Right - the dop is the first date upon which you MAY employ a new standard for compliance. The dow is the day by which any conflicting (ie the old standard) must be withdrawn and is therefore ineffective. This makes the period between dop and dow a transition period. Typically, the new standard is tougher than the original, so the transition period is used by everyone to ECO their products, retire the dinosaurs, etc. In this case (assuming all the dates are correct and it goes according to the plan), the situation is a bit upside down - A14 makes compliance to EN61000-3-2 easier. The dow for EN61000-3-2 will coincide with the dop of A14, which means on January 1st, you'll need to comply with EN61000-3-2, BUT you'll have the option to use A14 in doing so. For many manufacturers, A14 is the simpler and easier path, so I expect that many will take it once it is available. Paul O'Shaughnessy -Original Message- From: Nick Rouse [mailto:100626.3...@compuserve.com] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 3:08 PM To: Friedemann Adt Cc: EMC Subject: Re: EN 61000-3-2/A14 Fred, The dow is the date at which conflicting standards must be withdrawn. For an ammendment it means the part of the old standard that conflicts with the ammendment. From the doa until the dow you may use either the old unamended standard or the new ammended version. After the cross over period you may use only the new amended version. Nick Rouse - Original Message - From: Friedemann Adt a...@viewsonic.com To: h...@jyske-emc.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 6:56 PM Subject: Re: EN 61000-3-2/A14 I tried to refresh my memory about quoted abbreviations but even using the Official Journal's search engine I got not beyond 'DOW Jones Industrial'. Thus I like to appeal to any merciful soul out there to straighten me out.. dow: is the date at which the standard is enforced and therefore the date at which product being brought onto the market has to comply ? Thank you Fred Adt compliance reliability manager a...@viewsonic.com phone (909) 444-8958 Helge Knudsen h...@jyske-emc.com 10/06/00 02:50AM Hello group EN 61000-3-2/A14 was ratificated 2000-10-03 with the following dates: dor: 2000-10-03 doa: 2000-12-01 dop: 2001-01-01 dow: 2004-01-01 It is expected that the amendment will be announced in Official Journal before 2001-01-01. Best regards Helge Knudsen Jyske EMC Denmark --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail
RE: EN 61000-3-2/A14
Right - the dop is the first date upon which you MAY employ a new standard for compliance. The dow is the day by which any conflicting (ie the old standard) must be withdrawn and is therefore ineffective. This makes the period between dop and dow a transition period. Typically, the new standard is tougher than the original, so the transition period is used by everyone to ECO their products, retire the dinosaurs, etc. In this case (assuming all the dates are correct and it goes according to the plan), the situation is a bit upside down - A14 makes compliance to EN61000-3-2 easier. The dow for EN61000-3-2 will coincide with the dop of A14, which means on January 1st, you'll need to comply with EN61000-3-2, BUT you'll have the option to use A14 in doing so. For many manufacturers, A14 is the simpler and easier path, so I expect that many will take it once it is available. Paul O'Shaughnessy -Original Message- From: Nick Rouse [mailto:100626.3...@compuserve.com] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 3:08 PM To: Friedemann Adt Cc: EMC Subject: Re: EN 61000-3-2/A14 Fred, The dow is the date at which conflicting standards must be withdrawn. For an ammendment it means the part of the old standard that conflicts with the ammendment. From the doa until the dow you may use either the old unamended standard or the new ammended version. After the cross over period you may use only the new amended version. Nick Rouse - Original Message - From: Friedemann Adt a...@viewsonic.com To: h...@jyske-emc.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 6:56 PM Subject: Re: EN 61000-3-2/A14 I tried to refresh my memory about quoted abbreviations but even using the Official Journal's search engine I got not beyond 'DOW Jones Industrial'. Thus I like to appeal to any merciful soul out there to straighten me out.. dow: is the date at which the standard is enforced and therefore the date at which product being brought onto the market has to comply ? Thank you Fred Adt compliance reliability manager a...@viewsonic.com phone (909) 444-8958 Helge Knudsen h...@jyske-emc.com 10/06/00 02:50AM Hello group EN 61000-3-2/A14 was ratificated 2000-10-03 with the following dates: dor: 2000-10-03 doa: 2000-12-01 dop: 2001-01-01 dow: 2004-01-01 It is expected that the amendment will be announced in Official Journal before 2001-01-01. Best regards Helge Knudsen Jyske EMC Denmark --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Re: EN 61000-3-2/A14
Fred, The dow is the date at which conflicting standards must be withdrawn. For an ammendment it means the part of the old standard that conflicts with the ammendment. From the doa until the dow you may use either the old unamended standard or the new ammended version. After the cross over period you may use only the new amended version. Nick Rouse - Original Message - From: Friedemann Adt a...@viewsonic.com To: h...@jyske-emc.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 6:56 PM Subject: Re: EN 61000-3-2/A14 I tried to refresh my memory about quoted abbreviations but even using the Official Journal's search engine I got not beyond 'DOW Jones Industrial'. Thus I like to appeal to any merciful soul out there to straighten me out.. dow: is the date at which the standard is enforced and therefore the date at which product being brought onto the market has to comply ? Thank you Fred Adt compliance reliability manager a...@viewsonic.com phone (909) 444-8958 Helge Knudsen h...@jyske-emc.com 10/06/00 02:50AM Hello group EN 61000-3-2/A14 was ratificated 2000-10-03 with the following dates: dor: 2000-10-03 doa: 2000-12-01 dop: 2001-01-01 dow: 2004-01-01 It is expected that the amendment will be announced in Official Journal before 2001-01-01. Best regards Helge Knudsen Jyske EMC Denmark --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Re: EN 61000-3-2/A14
I tried to refresh my memory about quoted abbreviations but even using the Official Journal's search engine I got not beyond 'DOW Jones Industrial'. Thus I like to appeal to any merciful soul out there to straighten me out.. dow: is the date at which the standard is enforced and therefore the date at which product being brought onto the market has to comply ? Thank you Fred Adt compliance reliability manager a...@viewsonic.com phone (909) 444-8958 Helge Knudsen h...@jyske-emc.com 10/06/00 02:50AM Hello group EN 61000-3-2/A14 was ratificated 2000-10-03 with the following dates: dor: 2000-10-03 doa: 2000-12-01 dop: 2001-01-01 dow: 2004-01-01 It is expected that the amendment will be announced in Official Journal before 2001-01-01. Best regards Helge Knudsen Jyske EMC Denmark --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
