Re: US Approval
In a message dated 29/09/00 15:15:08 GMT Daylight Time, Daryl Alden writes: Can anybody advise me whether an MRA (mutual recognition agreement )exsists between the EU and the US? If so does this mean that electrical and mechanical products tested to CE standards do not need further approval (UL?) to be marketed in the states. I'm not an expert on this, but I can add a view. I don't know of any MRA's but I do know that the UL requirements and CE marking requirements are coming from very different positions. UL is essentially an Electrical/fire protective issue, while Euro/CE requirements are essentially born of Freedom of Trade. There is much UL approved material which wouldn't comply with EU rules, and vice versa. There seems little room for mutual recognition under such diverse aims. My understanding is that to sell in the States, you need to use UL material regardless of it's CE approval status. To sell in the EEC you need to have a CE mark, regardless of what safety approvals the material has. Chris Dupres Surrey, UK. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: US Approval
Daryl: The last information that I have (and somebody please advise if this is outdated), is that not one EU test lab that has applied for NRTL status has been approved by OSHA. This seems to be the main sticking point for implementing the US-EU MRA. In other words, it exists, but is not yet implemented. So, to answer your question, if a product being sold in the USA requires NRTL approval (it doesn't have to be UL, it can be any of the other NRTL's), then having CE marking is not adequate. Sincerely, Robert Loop Engineering Supervisor Wyle Laboratories Product Safety ph - (256) 837-4411 x313 fax- (256) 721-0144 e-mail: rl...@hnt.wylelabs.com -- From: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com[SMTP:jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com] Reply To: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 9:43 AM To: Alden; Daryl; 'n...@world.std.com'; 'emc-p...@ieee.org'; t...@world.std.com Subject: Re:US Approval forwarding for daryl.al...@edwards.boc.com Reply Separator Subject:US Approval Author: Alden; Daryl daryl.al...@edwards.boc.com Date: 9/29/00 4:10 AM Can anybody advise me whether an MRA (mutual recognition agreement )exsists between the EU and the US? If so does this mean that electrical and mechanical products tested to CE standards do not need further approval (UL?) to be marketed in the states. Thanks. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: US Approval
Actually, Intertek Testing Services is based out of Europe (owns Semko, and a few others), and currently has NRTL status under the ETL mark. -Original Message- From: Loop, Robert [mailto:rl...@hnt.wylelabs.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 7:24 AM To: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: US Approval Daryl: The last information that I have (and somebody please advise if this is outdated), is that not one EU test lab that has applied for NRTL status has been approved by OSHA. This seems to be the main sticking point for implementing the US-EU MRA. In other words, it exists, but is not yet implemented. So, to answer your question, if a product being sold in the USA requires NRTL approval (it doesn't have to be UL, it can be any of the other NRTL's), then having CE marking is not adequate. Sincerely, Robert Loop Engineering Supervisor Wyle Laboratories Product Safety ph - (256) 837-4411 x313 fax- (256) 721-0144 e-mail: rl...@hnt.wylelabs.com -- From: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com[SMTP:jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com] Reply To: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 9:43 AM To: Alden; Daryl; 'n...@world.std.com'; 'emc-p...@ieee.org'; t...@world.std.com Subject: Re:US Approval forwarding for daryl.al...@edwards.boc.com Reply Separator Subject:US Approval Author: Alden; Daryl daryl.al...@edwards.boc.com Date: 9/29/00 4:10 AM Can anybody advise me whether an MRA (mutual recognition agreement )exsists between the EU and the US? If so does this mean that electrical and mechanical products tested to CE standards do not need further approval (UL?) to be marketed in the states. Thanks. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
