RE: WEEE question
Piotr, You are only obligated for products within the scope of WEEE placed on your home market unless you have any "legal entities" in other EU member states, when you might then be obligated. Otherwise it is your distributors or importers in the other member states who are obligated. Thus you just need to look at the Polish legislation which can be found on the web such as here: http://www.b2bweee.com/requirements/pl or details on Polish WEEE here: http://www.cemarking.info/weee-registration/poland.html Final implementation in Poland is not until Dec 2008. Chris From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Piotr Galka Sent: 01 March 2008 09:01 To: EMC-PSTC; John Woodgate Subject: Re: WEEE question John, > > If you have any sort of label on the product, it may be very easy to add > the symbol, much easier than trying to decide whether it's compulsory or > not. Until now I am confused what I really have to do with WEEE. Adding the symbol is easy, but then (I expect - may be not in this case) you probably have to: - raport each 3 moth the volume you have sold, - be prepared to supply disassembly instruction if asked by recycler, - end year calculation of recycling levels achived (and pay some calculated fee if level too low), - some kind of financial guarantee for that fee. - may be more I don't know. At the beginning we have added the symbol to all our product labels. But then, when we decided that some our products are not in the WEEE scope (WEEE scope interpretation is the separate story), we removed this symbol from their labels. Piotr Galka MicroMade Poland > OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk > For very important information, please turn over. > John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK > > - > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society > emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > > To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org > > Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html > > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net > Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org > > For policy questions, send mail to: > > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > >http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: WEEE question
John, > > If you have any sort of label on the product, it may be very easy to add > the symbol, much easier than trying to decide whether it's compulsory or > not. Until now I am confused what I really have to do with WEEE. Adding the symbol is easy, but then (I expect - may be not in this case) you probably have to: - raport each 3 moth the volume you have sold, - be prepared to supply disassembly instruction if asked by recycler, - end year calculation of recycling levels achived (and pay some calculated fee if level too low), - some kind of financial guarantee for that fee. - may be more I don't know. At the beginning we have added the symbol to all our product labels. But then, when we decided that some our products are not in the WEEE scope (WEEE scope interpretation is the separate story), we removed this symbol from their labels. Piotr Galka MicroMade Poland > OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk > For very important information, please turn over. > John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK > > - > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society > emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > > To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org > > Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html > > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > > Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net > Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org > > For policy questions, send mail to: > > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > >http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: WEEE question
In message <35c6d51874342f46ae14c5814c5cf2df12a...@esealmw109.eemea.ericsson.se>, dated Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Anders Svensson B writes: >Does a power supply also need to be marked (crossed-out wheeled bin) >according to the requirements in the WEEE directive then its a part of >a product that is within the scope of the WEEE directive? If you have any sort of label on the product, it may be very easy to add the symbol, much easier than trying to decide whether it's compulsory or not. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk For very important information, please turn over. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: WEEE question
Anders – depends, is the supply an integral fixed part of the obligated product (no mark needed), or a pluggable but integrated custom part of the obligated product (mark not needed) or an external wall wart type supply (mark needed). _ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Anders Svensson B Sent: 29 February 2008 11:37 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: WEEE question Hi group, Does a power supply also need to be marked (crossed-out wheeled bin) according to the requirements in the WEEE directive then its a part of a product that is within the scope of the WEEE directive? (Maybe this question is out of scope for this group but I try because I have hard to inteprep the WEEE directive) Thanks for your help! /Anders - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc _ This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: WEEE question
If it is sold separate then it is not weee - cables are not within the scope. It is only when it is sold as part of equipment that is in scope it is considered potential weee. Regards, Chris From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Jim Bacher Sent: 20 November 2006 13:26 To: Kim Boll Jensen; EMC PSTC Subject: RE: WEEE question Kim, in one of the sessions at the 2006 IEEE Product Engineering Safety and Compliance Symposium, it was stated that if it is sold with the product the label is not needed, however if the cable is sold in the aftermarket the label is needed on the cable. Jim From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Kim Boll Jensen Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 9:49 AM To: EMC PSTC Subject: WEEE question Hi all Can it be true that cables shall have wheeled bin marking? (cables delivered together with products under WEEE and wheeled bin is marked on the product it self). Best regards, Kim Boll Jensen Bolls Rådgivning Ved Gadekæret 11F DK-3660 Stenløse Tlf.: 48 18 35 66 Fax: 48 18 35 30 Mobil: 22 99 69 91 E-mail: k...@bolls.dk web: www.bolls.dk - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc- stc- This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
RE: WEEE question
Kim, in one of the sessions at the 2006 IEEE Product Engineering Safety and Compliance Symposium, it was stated that if it is sold with the product the label is not needed, however if the cable is sold in the aftermarket the label is needed on the cable. Jim From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Kim Boll Jensen Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 9:49 AM To: EMC PSTC Subject: WEEE question Hi all Can it be true that cables shall have wheeled bin marking? (cables delivered together with products under WEEE and wheeled bin is marked on the product it self). Best regards, Kim Boll Jensen Bolls Rådgivning Ved Gadekæret 11F DK-3660 Stenløse Tlf.: 48 18 35 66 Fax: 48 18 35 30 Mobil: 22 99 69 91 E-mail: k...@bolls.dk web: www.bolls.dk - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
RE: WEEE question
If the accessory is not an obligated product under WEEE then it should not have the symbol applied in respect of WEEE but without prejudice to any other directive which may pertain e.g. batteries. (IMO) Subscribe to the IPC Leadfree forum if you want a wider RoHS & WEEE biased audience. Regards, Chris From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Jim Eichner Sent: 28 March 2006 19:28 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: WEEE question Sorry for all this non-safety non-EMC stuff but here's another environmental compliance question, regarding WEEE and the crossed-out-wheelie-bin symbol and bundled accessories. Suppose a product ships with an accessory. Do both the product and the accessory require the WEEE symbol, or can the main product get it, and the whole system is covered by that? If the answer is "maybe" or "sometimes" then what criteria would you apply in determining the answer? Thanks, Jim Eichner, P.Eng. Compliance Engineering Manager Xantrex Technology Inc. e-mail: jim.eich...@xantrex.com web: www.xantrex.com Any opinions expressed are those of my invisible friend, who should be dismantled to the level of the smallest homogenous part at the end of his useful life. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc