Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
At the risk of offending anyone who thinks that their local baseline is The Baseline, remember that a baseline is a common surveying term, and there are a lot of baselines. Why, they even have them in Canada! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseline_(surveying) And then look at this map for an idea about how the baselines are sometimes stuck at arbitrary or politically expedient places: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Meridians-baselines.png And even that map doesn't show Baseline Road in Maine! Ed Price WB6WSN Chula Vista, CA USA -Original Message- From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:51 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic Interesting discussion about the 40th parallel. As it turns out the exploration of the American territories in years past has often involved this line. I personally drive across this delimiter every day, traveling to and from work. My workplace in Louisville Colorado is at latitude 39.96745 degrees north, less than 2 miles away. This parallel is marked by Baseline Road, named for the very same and celebrated geographic feature. http://8z.com/blog/baseline-road-runs-along-40th-parallel/ Doug Douglas E Powell http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
In message 006c01ce19a5$c91fb640$5b5f22c0$@cox.net, dated Tue, 5 Mar 2013, Ed Price edpr...@cox.net writes: And even that map doesn't show Baseline Road in Maine! Surely the last word: http://www.musicradar.com/news/bass/the-25-best-basslines-of-all-time-509 265#!1 -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk SHOCK HORROR! Dinosaur-like DNA found in chicken and turkey meals John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
Another NRTL (headquarters in the U.S.A.) south of the 40th parallel is NEMKO (San Diego, ~32.7 N). Rich 44.0736 N, -121.3372 W On 3/2/2013 9:44 AM, Ted Eckert wrote: Let me clarify that my response is intended only in jest and is not intended as a critical response. (I don't know how well emoticons work on this list-server.) -Original Message- From: Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:29 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic I know I'm getting pedantic here. The 40th parallel runs across the middle of the United States. U.S. Cities north of the 40th parallel include Northbrook Illinois, Newtown Connecticut, Peabody Massachusetts, Courtland New York and a few other headquarter cities of test laboratories on OSHA's NRTL list. A quick check shows that MET Labs in Blaltimore (at 39 degrees north) is just about the only NRTL with headquarters south of the 40th parallel. Ted Eckert Compliance Engineer Microsoft Corporation 47° 40' 10N 122° 7'26W ted.eck...@microsoft.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
The Mason Dixon Line only extends to the southwest corner of Pennsylvania, not all the way across the U.S.A. :-) On 3/3/2013 7:29 PM, Bill Owsley wrote: Otherwise, colloquially known as the Mason-Dixon line *From:* Ted Eckert ted.eck...@microsoft.com *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Sent:* Saturday, March 2, 2013 12:44 PM *Subject:* RE: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic Let me clarify that my response is intended only in jest and is not intended as a critical response. (I don't know how well emoticons work on this list-server.) -Original Message- From: Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:29 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic I know I'm getting pedantic here. The 40th parallel runs across the middle of the United States. U.S. Cities north of the 40th parallel include Northbrook Illinois, Newtown Connecticut, Peabody Massachusetts, Courtland New York and a few other headquarter cities of test laboratories on OSHA's NRTL list. A quick check shows that MET Labs in Blaltimore (at 39 degrees north) is just about the only NRTL with headquarters south of the 40th parallel. Ted Eckert Compliance Engineer Microsoft Corporation 47°40' 10N 122° 7'26W ted.eck...@microsoft.com mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
FYI The Mason-Dixon line It is not on the 40th either (close). The 40th runs across Lancaster county PA, and through the town of Millersville, PA and across the campus of my High School. Leo Heiland From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Richard Nute Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:13 PM To: Bill Owsley Cc: Ted Eckert; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic The Mason Dixon Line only extends to the southwest corner of Pennsylvania, not all the way across the U.S.A. :-) On 3/3/2013 7:29 PM, Bill Owsley wrote: Otherwise, colloquially known as the Mason-Dixon line From: Ted Eckert ted.eck...@microsoft.commailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: RE: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic Let me clarify that my response is intended only in jest and is not intended as a critical response. (I don't know how well emoticons work on this list-server.) -Original Message- From: Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.commailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:29 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic I know I'm getting pedantic here. The 40th parallel runs across the middle of the United States. U.S. Cities north of the 40th parallel include Northbrook Illinois, Newtown Connecticut, Peabody Massachusetts, Courtland New York and a few other headquarter cities of test laboratories on OSHA's NRTL list. A quick check shows that MET Labs in Blaltimore (at 39 degrees north) is just about the only NRTL with headquarters south of the 40th parallel. Ted Eckert Compliance Engineer Microsoft Corporation 47°40' 10N 122° 7'26W ted.eck...@microsoft.commailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
In message 51350037.9050...@ieee.org, dated Mon, 4 Mar 2013, Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org writes: The Mason Dixon Line only extends to the southwest corner of Pennsylvania, not all the way across the U.S.A. :-) Let us consider it notionally extended - to Beijing. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk SHOCK HORROR! Dinosaur-like DNA found in chicken and turkey meals John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
by today's measurements, it's about 39.43 or there abouts, generally the northern border of Maryland, whatever that turns into, and since the country ended near it's western end, so did the line. The rest was Indian country. I'm used to big old trees and rock piles to designate real estate markers. It is rather fun to to run the old survey lines of old property being described that way!! Like the Mason-Dixon Line in some places. From: Heiland, Leo J leo.j.heil...@intel.com To: ri...@ieee.org ri...@ieee.org Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 3:28 PM Subject: RE: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic FYI The Mason-Dixon line It is not on the 40th either (close). The 40th runs across Lancaster county PA, and through the town of Millersville, PA and across the campus of my High School. Leo Heiland From:emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Richard Nute Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:13 PM To: Bill Owsley Cc: Ted Eckert; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic The Mason Dixon Line only extends to the southwest corner of Pennsylvania, not all the way across the U.S.A. :-) On 3/3/2013 7:29 PM, Bill Owsley wrote: Otherwise, colloquially known as the Mason-Dixon line From:Ted Eckert ted.eck...@microsoft.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: RE: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic Let me clarify that my response is intended only in jest and is not intended as a critical response. (I don't know how well emoticons work on this list-server.) -Original Message- From: Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:29 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic I know I'm getting pedantic here. The 40th parallel runs across the middle of the United States. U.S. Cities north of the 40th parallel include Northbrook Illinois, Newtown Connecticut, Peabody Massachusetts, Courtland New York and a few other headquarter cities of test laboratories on OSHA's NRTL list. A quick check shows that MET Labs in Blaltimore (at 39 degrees north) is just about the only NRTL with headquarters south of the 40th parallel. Ted Eckert Compliance Engineer Microsoft Corporation 47° 40' 10N 122° 7' 26W ted.eck...@microsoft.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the
Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
Interesting discussion about the 40th parallel. As it turns out the exploration of the American territories in years past has often involved this line. I personally drive across this delimiter every day, traveling to and from work. My workplace in Louisville Colorado is at latitude 39.96745 degrees north, less than 2 miles away. This parallel is marked by Baseline Road, named for the very same and celebrated geographic feature. http://8z.com/blog/baseline-road-runs-along-40th-parallel/ Doug Douglas E Powell http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
The added info is great! This concept continued on westward after the origin... From: doug...@gmail.com dougp01! @gmail.com To: EMC-PSTC EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic Interesting discussion about the 40th parallel. As it turns out the exploration of the American territories in years past has often involved this line. I personally drive across this delimiter every day, traveling to and from work. My workplace in Louisville Colorado is at latitude 39.96745 degrees north, less than 2 miles away. This parallel is marked by Baseline Road, named for the very same and celebrated geographic feature. http://8z.com/blog/baseline-road-runs-along-40th-parallel/ Doug Douglas E Powell http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
Otherwise, colloquially known as the Mason-Dixon line From: Ted Eckert ted.eck...@microsoft.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: RE: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic Let me clarify that my response is intended only in jest and is not intended as a critical response. (I don't know how well emoticons work on this list-server.) -Original Message- From: Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:29 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic I know I'm getting pedantic here. The 40th parallel runs across the middle of the United States. U.S. Cities north of the 40th parallel include Northbrook Illinois, Newtown Connecticut, Peabody Massachusetts, Courtland New York and a few other headquarter cities of test laboratories on OSHA's NRTL list. A quick check shows that MET Labs in Blaltimore (at 39 degrees north) is just about the only NRTL with headquarters south of the 40th parallel. Ted Eckert Compliance Engineer Microsoft Corporation 47° 40' 10N 122° 7' 26W ted.eck...@microsoft.com The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:24 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: NRTL North of the 40th parallel In message 4aa1e777dc25b7e531c0880286d62...@mail.gmail.com, dated Fri, 1 Mar 2013, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: In case you haven't seen it yet, an NRTL/SCC lab has instituted invoicing practices where factory product audits will be billed separately for every global region from a financial entity in that region. Your companies will be burdened with having to add additional suppliers to your financial systems in order to pay invoices originating from these international subsidiaries in the local currencies. I suspect that this practice will become very common, as governments try to prevent tax avoidance. It is currently common practice to invoice everything from a subsidiary in a low-tax country and balance the P/Ls of the other subsidiaries by internal accounting means that do not attract tax. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk SHOCK HORROR! Dinosaur-like DNA found in chicken and turkey meals John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help,
Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
I know I'm getting pedantic here. The 40th parallel runs across the middle of the United States. U.S. Cities north of the 40th parallel include Northbrook Illinois, Newtown Connecticut, Peabody Massachusetts, Courtland New York and a few other headquarter cities of test laboratories on OSHA's NRTL list. A quick check shows that MET Labs in Blaltimore (at 39 degrees north) is just about the only NRTL with headquarters south of the 40th parallel. Ted Eckert Compliance Engineer Microsoft Corporation 47° 40' 10N 122° 7'26W ted.eck...@microsoft.com The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:24 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: NRTL North of the 40th parallel In message 4aa1e777dc25b7e531c0880286d62...@mail.gmail.com, dated Fri, 1 Mar 2013, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: In case you haven't seen it yet, an NRTL/SCC lab has instituted invoicing practices where factory product audits will be billed separately for every global region from a financial entity in that region. Your companies will be burdened with having to add additional suppliers to your financial systems in order to pay invoices originating from these international subsidiaries in the local currencies. I suspect that this practice will become very common, as governments try to prevent tax avoidance. It is currently common practice to invoice everything from a subsidiary in a low-tax country and balance the P/Ls of the other subsidiaries by internal accounting means that do not attract tax. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk SHOCK HORROR! Dinosaur-like DNA found in chicken and turkey meals John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic
Let me clarify that my response is intended only in jest and is not intended as a critical response. (I don't know how well emoticons work on this list-server.) -Original Message- From: Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:29 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: NRTL North of the 40th parallel - Off Topic I know I'm getting pedantic here. The 40th parallel runs across the middle of the United States. U.S. Cities north of the 40th parallel include Northbrook Illinois, Newtown Connecticut, Peabody Massachusetts, Courtland New York and a few other headquarter cities of test laboratories on OSHA's NRTL list. A quick check shows that MET Labs in Blaltimore (at 39 degrees north) is just about the only NRTL with headquarters south of the 40th parallel. Ted Eckert Compliance Engineer Microsoft Corporation 47° 40' 10N 122° 7'26W ted.eck...@microsoft.com The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:24 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: NRTL North of the 40th parallel In message 4aa1e777dc25b7e531c0880286d62...@mail.gmail.com, dated Fri, 1 Mar 2013, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: In case you haven't seen it yet, an NRTL/SCC lab has instituted invoicing practices where factory product audits will be billed separately for every global region from a financial entity in that region. Your companies will be burdened with having to add additional suppliers to your financial systems in order to pay invoices originating from these international subsidiaries in the local currencies. I suspect that this practice will become very common, as governments try to prevent tax avoidance. It is currently common practice to invoice everything from a subsidiary in a low-tax country and balance the P/Ls of the other subsidiaries by internal accounting means that do not attract tax. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk SHOCK HORROR! Dinosaur-like DNA found in chicken and turkey meals John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
