Re: [PSES] SEV Mark Required for Swiss Adapter Plug?

2018-08-03 Thread Schmidt, Mark 
Hi Mike,

SEV or ENEC Mark - Yes. It’s a corporate liability question or applied due 
diligence to protect your consumer. How did you verify the certification to the 
IEC standards? Either way I would think that your corporate layers would advise 
100% to the letter of the law.

Which doesn’t help much in the decision making process. Everyone wants that 
absolute Yes or No answer in our very grey world.

Regards,
Mark

From: MIKE [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 10:44 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] SEV Mark Required for Swiss Adapter Plug?

I’m looking for an adapter plug that allows a Schuko plug to be connected to a 
grounded Swiss receptacle. I have found one that is certified to IEC 60884-1 
and IEC 60884-2-5. It does not have an SEV mark.
Is an SEV mark required for adapter plugs to be used in Switzerland?
Thanks,
Mike Sherman
Graco Inc.

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Re: [PSES] SEV Mark Required for Swiss Adapter Plug?

2018-08-03 Thread Schmidt, Mark 
Hey Mike,

Personally, I would accept that but…..

I will refer back to my “grey” statement.

Mark

From: msherma...@comcast.net [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 1:25 PM
To: Schmidt, Mark
Cc: EMC-PSTC
Subject: Re: SEV Mark Required for Swiss Adapter Plug?

"How did you verify the certification to the IEC standards?"

By reviewing a TRF provided by a test lab that also provided a 17025 cert.

Mike


From: "Mark Schmidt" 
To: "MIKE" , "EMC-PSTC" 
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 10:18:02 AM
Subject: RE: SEV Mark Required for Swiss Adapter Plug?

Hi Mike,

SEV or ENEC Mark - Yes. It’s a corporate liability question or applied due 
diligence to protect your consumer. How did you verify the certification to the 
IEC standards? Either way I would think that your corporate layers would advise 
100% to the letter of the law.

Which doesn’t help much in the decision making process. Everyone wants that 
absolute Yes or No answer in our very grey world.

Regards,
Mark

From: MIKE [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 10:44 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] SEV Mark Required for Swiss Adapter Plug?

I’m looking for an adapter plug that allows a Schuko plug to be connected to a 
grounded Swiss receptacle. I have found one that is certified to IEC 60884-1 
and IEC 60884-2-5. It does not have an SEV mark.
Is an SEV mark required for adapter plugs to be used in Switzerland?
Thanks,
Mike Sherman
Graco Inc.

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Re: [PSES] SEV Mark Required for Swiss Adapter Plug?

2018-08-03 Thread John Woodgate 

Have you tried asking SEV?

John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

On 2018-08-03 15:44, MIKE wrote:
I’m looking for an adapter plug that allows a Schuko plug to be 
connected to a grounded Swiss receptacle. I have found one that is 
certified to IEC 60884-1 and IEC 60884-2-5. It does not have an SEV mark.

Is an SEV mark required for adapter plugs to be used in Switzerland?
Thanks,
Mike Sherman
Graco Inc.

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