Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal port

2002-09-24 Thread Warren Birmingham



When you consider the cost of reports I think the cost goes up from 
$4500.  Two of the labs I use, cost runs about $5000 for the immunity 
testing only plus cost of reports, give or take a few nickels.

Warren

On Monday, Sep 23, 2002, at 19:30 US/Pacific, lfresea...@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/23/02 9:05:08 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> war...@comfortjets.com writes:
>
>
> A suite of testing runs about $6000 for immunity for ITE equipment to
> meet EN 55 024 without even talking about the Radiated Immunity
> requirements equipment and a chamber.  You are going to likely have to
> do this subset of testing anyway if you want a credible report as
> evidence of self-declaration.  The costs of emissions and immunity
> testing with reports is around $7000 and is a clean approach both
> financially and in timeline if you do some chamber tests first for
> emissions, say a 2-hour scan in a chamber.  Emissions and immunity
> testing are somewhat coupled in that a device that is a low radiator is
> also likely to have good resistance to susceptibility, but not always. 
> This is most often true of metal shielded enclosures and those with
> shielded I/O cables.
>
>
>
> Hi Warren,
>
> I think your test costs seem a little high, I won't say what I charge 
> for fear of being accused of commercialism. But a number of labs, good 
> labs, will charge under $4,500 for a full set of tests
>
> There is a good deal of new equipment coming out from vendors too, 
> which may mean a flood of used, but still good equipment. E-bay is a 
> source for this.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Derek Walton
> L F Research

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Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal port

2002-09-24 Thread Lfresearch
In a message dated 9/23/02 9:05:08 PM Central Daylight Time, 
war...@comfortjets.com writes:


> A suite of testing runs about $6000 for immunity for ITE equipment to 
> meet EN 55 024 without even talking about the Radiated Immunity 
> requirements equipment and a chamber.  You are going to likely have to 
> do this subset of testing anyway if you want a credible report as 
> evidence of self-declaration.  The costs of emissions and immunity 
> testing with reports is around $7000 and is a clean approach both 
> financially and in timeline if you do some chamber tests first for 
> emissions, say a 2-hour scan in a chamber.  Emissions and immunity 
> testing are somewhat coupled in that a device that is a low radiator is 
> also likely to have good resistance to susceptibility, but not always.  
> This is most often true of metal shielded enclosures and those with 
> shielded I/O cables.
> 

Hi Warren,

I think your test costs seem a little high, I won't say what I charge for 
fear of being accused of commercialism. But a number of labs, good labs, will 
charge under $4,500 for a full set of tests

There is a good deal of new equipment coming out from vendors too, which may 
mean a flood of used, but still good equipment. E-bay is a source for this.

Cheers,

Derek Walton
L F Research

In a message dated 9/23/02 9:05:08 PM Central 
Daylight Time, war...@comfortjets.com writes:


A suite of testing runs about $6000 for 
immunity for ITE equipment to 
meet EN 55 024 without even talking about the Radiated Immunity 
requirements equipment and a chamber.  You are going to likely have to 
do this subset of testing anyway if you want a credible report as 
evidence of self-declaration.  The costs of emissions and immunity 
testing with reports is around $7000 and is a clean approach both 
financially and in timeline if you do some chamber tests first for 
emissions, say a 2-hour scan in a chamber.  Emissions and immunity 
testing are somewhat coupled in that a device that is a low radiator is 
also likely to have good resistance to susceptibility, but not always.  

This is most often true of metal shielded enclosures and those with 
shielded I/O cables.


Hi Warren,

I think your test costs seem a little high, I won't say what I charge for fear 
of being accused of commercialism. But a number of labs, good labs, will charge 
under $4,500 for a full set of tests

There is a good deal of new equipment coming out from vendors too, which may 
mean a flood of used, but still good equipment. E-bay is a source for this.

Cheers,

Derek Walton
L F Research


RE: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal port

2002-09-24 Thread Peter Merguerian
Fear all,
 
Full set of rated emission and immunity tests in Israel will cost $3500 max.

 

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Subject: Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports


In a message dated 9/23/02 9:05:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
war...@comfortjets.com writes:




A suite of testing runs about $6000 for immunity for ITE equipment to 
meet EN 55 024 without even talking about the Radiated Immunity 
requirements equipment and a chamber.  You are going to likely have to 
do this subset of testing anyway if you want a credible report as 
evidence of self-declaration.  The costs of emissions and immunity 
testing with reports is around $7000 and is a clean approach both 
financially and in timeline if you do some chamber tests first for 
emissions, say a 2-hour scan in a chamber.  Emissions and immunity 
testing are somewhat coupled in that a device that is a low radiator is 
also likely to have good resistance to susceptibility, but not always.  
This is most often true of metal shielded enclosures and those with 
shielded I/O cables.




Hi Warren,

I think your test costs seem a little high, I won't say what I charge for
fear of being accused of commercialism. But a number of labs, good labs,
will charge under $4,500 for a full set of tests

There is a good deal of new equipment coming out from vendors too, which may
mean a flood of used, but still good equipment. E-bay is a source for this.

Cheers,

Derek Walton
L F Research 









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all,
 
Full 
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  emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.orgSubject: Re: Surge and EFT test 
  equipment for AC, DC, and signal portsIn a message dated 9/23/02 9:05:08 PM Central Daylight Time, 
  war...@comfortjets.com writes:
  A suite of testing runs about $6000 for immunity for ITE 
equipment to meet EN 55 024 without even talking about the Radiated 
Immunity requirements equipment and a chamber.  You are going to 
likely have to do this subset of testing anyway if you want a credible 
report as evidence of self-declaration.  The costs of emissions 
and 
immunity testing with reports is around $7000 and is a clean approach 
both financially and in timeline if you do some chamber tests first for 
emissions, say a 2-hour scan in a chamber.  Emissions and immunity 
testing are somewhat coupled in that a device that is a low radiator is 
also likely to have good resistance to susceptibility, but not 
always.  This is most often true of metal shielded enclosures and 
those with shielded I/O cables.Hi Warren,I 
  think your test costs seem a little high, I won't say what I charge for fear 
  of being accused of commercialism. But a number of labs, good labs, will 
  charge under $4,500 for a full set of testsThere is a good deal 
of 
  new equipment coming out from vendors too, which may mean a flood of used, 
but 
  still good equipment. E-bay is a source for this.Cheers,Derek 
  WaltonL F Research