Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

2017-09-07 Thread Don Gies
Ed, I conducted TEMPEST tests and mitigation on SINCGARS radios too.

 

Amund, the TEMPEST test procedures are classified.  

 

Don Gies

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(732) 207-7828

 

From: Edward Price [mailto:e...@jwjelp.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 5:20 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

 

Amund:

 

In TEMPEST testing, both the limits and the data were considered classified 
information.

 

Don:

 

The conflation of TEMPEST and 461 probably arose from the fact that most all 
equipment requiring TEMPEST compliance was being bought by DoD agencies, and 
they also required 461 compliance. As an example, back in the late 80’s, I did 
the 461 compliance testing for the SINCGARS radio system, while a TEMPEST 
certified engineer worked in my lab doing a parallel TEMPEST compliance test. 
The customer was the same, but the two efforts were on separate contracts.

 

OTOH, I recall another job, this one commercial, where the customer only asked 
us to do TEMPEST on a high-speed computer line-printer; there was no 
requirement for 461. The customer’s plan was to sell TEMPEST ready printers to 
non-governmental custoers.

 

Ed Price
WB6WSN
Chula Vista, CA USA

 

 

From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:22 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

 

I was looking for the document NSTISSAM TEMPEST/1-92  «Compromising Emanations 
Laboratory Test Requirements, Electromagnetics», but I only found a file with 
all emission plots covered by a black spot. Classified information?

 

BR

Amund

 

 

 

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Emne: Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

 

Years ago,  if you tested under a TEMPEST contract, you tested for MIL-STD-461 
as well. 

 

They were not considered overlapping requirements, and the TEMPEST engineer is 
looking for other things that the MIL-STD-461 engineer is not. 

 

Don Gies

mailto:ddg...@verizon.net

(732) 207-7828

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 4:53 PM

To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Subject: Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

 

In my experience of both type of testing experience - if it is tempest 
compliant it is likely to be compliant with commercial emission requirements

 

 

 

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 Original message 

From: Ken Javor <mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com> 

Date: 9/5/17 16:35 (GMT-05:00) 

To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 

Subject: Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC 

 

TEMPEST is completely decoupled from EMC. The EMC requirements are driven by 
how the item will be used.  A TEMPEST qualified PC to be used around some 
secure data center in a plant or office building will have those sports of 
CISPR EMC qualifications. If the device is going to be used on a military 
vehicle of some sort, then MIL-STD-461 is required. But these statements stand 
on their own – they are independent of the TEMPEST qualification.

 

Ken Javor

Phone: (256) 650-5261



From: Amund Westin <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>

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Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 21:22:33 +0200

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Subject: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

 

Any special EMC requirements for TEMPEST approved equipment? Is MIL-STD-461 
mandatory? …

 

Best regards

 

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Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

2017-09-07 Thread Cortland Richmond


Oh yes.  One reason I was hired to do EMC testing after  i retired from 
the US Army in 1983 was that I had a current SECRET clearance.   THAT'S 
long gone. Heh!


Cortland Richmond

larance.
On 9/7/2017 2:22 AM, Amund Westin wrote:


I was looking for the document NSTISSAM TEMPEST/1-92 /«Compromising 
Emanations Laboratory Test Requirements, Electromagnetics»,/ but I 
only found a file with all emission plots covered by a black spot. 
Classified information?


BR

Amund






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Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

2017-09-07 Thread Edward Price
Amund:

In TEMPEST testing, both the limits and the data were considered classified 
information.

Don:

The conflation of TEMPEST and 461 probably arose from the fact that most all 
equipment requiring TEMPEST compliance was being bought by DoD agencies, and 
they also required 461 compliance. As an example, back in the late 80’s, I did 
the 461 compliance testing for the SINCGARS radio system, while a TEMPEST 
certified engineer worked in my lab doing a parallel TEMPEST compliance test. 
The customer was the same, but the two efforts were on separate contracts.

OTOH, I recall another job, this one commercial, where the customer only asked 
us to do TEMPEST on a high-speed computer line-printer; there was no 
requirement for 461. The customer’s plan was to sell TEMPEST ready printers to 
non-governmental custoers.

Ed Price
WB6WSN
Chula Vista, CA USA


From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no]
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:22 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC


I was looking for the document NSTISSAM TEMPEST/1-92  «Compromising Emanations 
Laboratory Test Requirements, Electromagnetics», but I only found a file with 
all emission plots covered by a black spot. Classified information?



BR

Amund







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Emne: Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC



Years ago,  if you tested under a TEMPEST contract, you tested for MIL-STD-461 
as well.



They were not considered overlapping requirements, and the TEMPEST engineer is 
looking for other things that the MIL-STD-461 engineer is not.



Don Gies

mailto:ddg...@verizon.net

(732) 207-7828



From: rbtuk [mailto:0a0e51f5c059-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org]

Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 4:53 PM

To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Subject: Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC



In my experience of both type of testing experience - if it is tempest 
compliant it is likely to be compliant with commercial emission requirements







Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone



 Original message 

From: Ken Javor <mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com>

Date: 9/5/17 16:35 (GMT-05:00)

To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Subject: Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC



TEMPEST is completely decoupled from EMC. The EMC requirements are driven by 
how the item will be used.  A TEMPEST qualified PC to be used around some 
secure data center in a plant or office building will have those sports of 
CISPR EMC qualifications. If the device is going to be used on a military 
vehicle of some sort, then MIL-STD-461 is required. But these statements stand 
on their own – they are independent of the TEMPEST qualification.



Ken Javor

Phone: (256) 650-5261



From: Amund Westin <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>

Reply-To: Amund Westin <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>

Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 21:22:33 +0200

To: <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>

Subject: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC



Any special EMC requirements for TEMPEST approved equipment? Is MIL-STD-461 
mandatory? …



Best regards



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[PSES] SV: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

2017-09-06 Thread Amund Westin
I was looking for the document NSTISSAM TEMPEST/1-92  «Compromising Emanations 
Laboratory Test Requirements, Electromagnetics», but I only found a file with 
all emission plots covered by a black spot. Classified information?

 

BR

Amund

 

 

 

Fra: Don Gies [mailto:ddg...@verizon.net] 

Sendt: 6. september 2017 23:35

Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Emne: Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

 

Years ago,  if you tested under a TEMPEST contract, you tested for MIL-STD-461 
as well. 

 

They were not considered overlapping requirements, and the TEMPEST engineer is 
looking for other things that the MIL-STD-461 engineer is not. 

 

Don Gies

mailto:ddg...@verizon.net

(732) 207-7828

 

From: rbtuk [mailto:0a0e51f5c059-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] 

Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 4:53 PM

To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Subject: Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

 

In my experience of both type of testing experience - if it is tempest 
compliant it is likely to be compliant with commercial emission requirements

 

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 Original message 

From: Ken Javor <mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com> 

Date: 9/5/17 16:35 (GMT-05:00) 

To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 

Subject: Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC 

 

TEMPEST is completely decoupled from EMC. The EMC requirements are driven by 
how the item will be used.  A TEMPEST qualified PC to be used around some 
secure data center in a plant or office building will have those sports of 
CISPR EMC qualifications. If the device is going to be used on a military 
vehicle of some sort, then MIL-STD-461 is required. But these statements stand 
on their own – they are independent of the TEMPEST qualification.

 

Ken Javor

Phone: (256) 650-5261



From: Amund Westin <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>

Reply-To: Amund Westin <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>

Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 21:22:33 +0200

To: <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>

Subject: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

 

Any special EMC requirements for TEMPEST approved equipment? Is MIL-STD-461 
mandatory? …

 

Best regards

 

Amund  

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Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

2017-09-06 Thread Don Gies
Years ago,  if you tested under a TEMPEST contract, you tested for MIL-STD-461 
as well. 

 

They were not considered overlapping requirements, and the TEMPEST engineer is 
looking for other things that the MIL-STD-461 engineer is not. 

 

Don Gies

ddg...@verizon.net <mailto:ddg...@verizon.net> 

(732) 207-7828

 

From: rbtuk [mailto:0a0e51f5c059-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 4:53 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

 

In my experience of both type of testing experience - if it is tempest 
compliant it is likely to be compliant with commercial emission requirements

 

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 Original message 

From: Ken Javor mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com> > 

Date: 9/5/17 16:35 (GMT-05:00) 

To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>  

Subject: Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC 

 

TEMPEST is completely decoupled from EMC. The EMC requirements are driven by 
how the item will be used.  A TEMPEST qualified PC to be used around some 
secure data center in a plant or office building will have those sports of 
CISPR EMC qualifications. If the device is going to be used on a military 
vehicle of some sort, then MIL-STD-461 is required. But these statements stand 
on their own – they are independent of the TEMPEST qualification.

Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261



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Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 21:22:33 +0200
To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> >
Subject: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

Any special EMC requirements for TEMPEST approved equipment? Is MIL-STD-461 
mandatory? …

Best regards

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Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

2017-09-05 Thread rbtuk
In my experience of both type of testing experience - if it is tempest 
compliant it is likely to be compliant with commercial emission requirements


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Ken Javor  
Date: 9/5/17  16:35  (GMT-05:00) To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: 
[PSES] TEMPEST and EMC 

TEMPEST is completely decoupled from EMC. The EMC requirements are driven by 
how the item will be used.  A TEMPEST qualified PC to be used around some 
secure data center in a plant or office building will have those sports of 
CISPR EMC qualifications. If the device is going to be used on a military 
vehicle of some sort, then MIL-STD-461 is required. But these statements stand 
on their own – they are independent of the TEMPEST qualification.



Ken Javor

Phone: (256) 650-5261





From: Amund Westin 

Reply-To: Amund Westin 

Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 21:22:33 +0200

To: 

Subject: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC



Any special EMC requirements for TEMPEST approved equipment? Is MIL-STD-461 
mandatory? …



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Re: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

2017-09-05 Thread Ken Javor
TEMPEST is completely decoupled from EMC. The EMC requirements are driven by
how the item will be used.  A TEMPEST qualified PC to be used around some
secure data center in a plant or office building will have those sports of
CISPR EMC qualifications. If the device is going to be used on a military
vehicle of some sort, then MIL-STD-461 is required. But these statements
stand on their own ­ they are independent of the TEMPEST qualification.

Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261



From: Amund Westin 
Reply-To: Amund Westin 
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 21:22:33 +0200
To: 
Subject: [PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

Any special EMC requirements for TEMPEST approved equipment? Is MIL-STD-461
mandatory? Š

Best regards

Amund  
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[PSES] TEMPEST and EMC

2017-09-05 Thread Amund Westin
Any special EMC requirements for TEMPEST approved equipment? Is MIL-STD-461
mandatory? .

Best regards

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TEMPEST

2003-06-12 Thread am...@westin-emission.no

Hi all,

Any nice web-links which give a first introduction to TEMPEST  ?
Any TEMPEST course / training available?


Best regards 
Amund Westin, Oslo, Norway



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RE: TEMPEST regulations

2003-05-28 Thread k.macl...@aprel.com
Folks - 
 
Actually, the Canadian three-letter agency involved is the CSE (Communications
Security Establishment).  
 
Alexandru, you may want to get in touch with John Simpson at EMCON in Ottawa
about TEMPEST issues.  His number is (613) 723-1838 x125, and email
jo...@emcon.com.
 
Kind regards,
Kate
 


Kathy M. MacLean 
President, APREL Laboratories 
-EMC-RF Safety-Antenna Design/Test-SAR/MPE-SAR/Near-Field
Tools-Acoustics-Wireless- 
51 Spectrum Way, Nepean, Ontario K2R 1E6 
(613) 820-2730 fax (613) 820-4161 
Web site:  http://www.aprel.com <http://www.aprel.com/>  - watch for our new
web site coming soon! 




From: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com [mailto:kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com]
Sent: May 9, 2003 2:57 PM
To: ed.pr...@cubic.com; gui...@cae.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: TEMPEST regulations


Alexandru,
 
You might try the NSA in the US but will likely need to contact the Canadian
equivalent  (CSIS?) . I had placed an inquiry with the UK source and was
advised that since I am in the US, they would not explore the release any docs
and kindly supplied additional advice to contact the NSA.  Might be the same
kind of thing for Canadian distribution requests.
 
Regards,
Kaz Gawrzyjal
Dell

From: Price, Ed [mailto:ed.pr...@cubic.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:32 PM
To: 'Alexandru Guidea'; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'
Subject: RE: TEMPEST regulations




>-Original Message- 
>From: Alexandru Guidea [ mailto:gui...@cae.com] 
>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:35 AM 
>To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' 
>Subject: TEMPEST regulations 
> 
> 
> 
>Dear colleagues, 
> 
>I am looking to procure an UK (or NATO) TEMPEST 
>standard/regulation -- JSP 
>480. Any help in finding a source for this doc will be greatly 
>appreciated. 
>Whether some confidentiality restrictions exist, they can be 
>resolved by our 
>library, as it has similar docs. 
> 
>Thanks, 
> 
>Guidea Alexandru 
>CAE Inc. 
>Montreal, CANADA 



Alexandru: 


A JSP is a British Ministry of Defence (MoD) Joint Services Publication. You
might try the MoD homepage at: 

http://www.dstan.mod.uk/index.html 

but many Comsec documents are classified, so you might have trouble getting a
copy (as in not exactly a pdf on the web ).

Ed 

Ed Price 
ed.pr...@cubic.com 
NARTE Certified EMC Engineer & Technician 
Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab 
Cubic Defense Systems 
San Diego, CA  USA 
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858-505-1583  (Fax) 
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RE: TEMPEST regulations

2003-05-12 Thread Hudson, Alan



> I am looking to procure an UK (or NATO) TEMPEST 
> standard/regulation -- JSP
> 480. Any help in finding a source for this doc will be 
> greatly appreciated.
> Whether some confidentiality restrictions exist, they can be 
> resolved by our
> library, as it has similar docs.

The MoD Defence Standard webite is at <http://www.dstan.mod.uk>. The Defence
Standard help-desk email address has changed recently to be
<mailto:dstan.helpd...@virgin.net>.

However, UK Tempest matters are handled by CESG in Cheltenham, UK (a.k.a.
Government Communications HQ), whose website is at
<http://www.cesg.gsi.gov.uk>. They have a Customer helpdesk at email
<mailto:enquir...@cesg.gov.uk>

If it's Tempest then it's definitely security classified!

Regards,

Alan
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RE: TEMPEST regulations

2003-05-09 Thread kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com
Alexandru,
 
You might try the NSA in the US but will likely need to contact the Canadian
equivalent  (CSIS?) . I had placed an inquiry with the UK source and was
advised that since I am in the US, they would not explore the release any docs
and kindly supplied additional advice to contact the NSA.  Might be the same
kind of thing for Canadian distribution requests.
 
Regards,
Kaz Gawrzyjal
Dell

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Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:32 PM
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Subject: RE: TEMPEST regulations




>-Original Message- 
>From: Alexandru Guidea [ mailto:gui...@cae.com] 
>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:35 AM 
>To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' 
>Subject: TEMPEST regulations 
> 
> 
> 
>Dear colleagues, 
> 
>I am looking to procure an UK (or NATO) TEMPEST 
>standard/regulation -- JSP 
>480. Any help in finding a source for this doc will be greatly 
>appreciated. 
>Whether some confidentiality restrictions exist, they can be 
>resolved by our 
>library, as it has similar docs. 
> 
>Thanks, 
> 
>Guidea Alexandru 
>CAE Inc. 
>Montreal, CANADA 



Alexandru: 


A JSP is a British Ministry of Defence (MoD) Joint Services Publication. You
might try the MoD homepage at: 

http://www.dstan.mod.uk/index.html 

but many Comsec documents are classified, so you might have trouble getting a
copy (as in not exactly a pdf on the web ).

Ed 

Ed Price 
ed.pr...@cubic.com 
NARTE Certified EMC Engineer & Technician 
Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab 
Cubic Defense Systems 
San Diego, CA  USA 
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RE: TEMPEST regulations

2003-05-09 Thread Price, Ed

>-Original Message- 
>From: Alexandru Guidea [ mailto:gui...@cae.com] 
>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:35 AM 
>To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' 
>Subject: TEMPEST regulations 
> 
> 
> 
>Dear colleagues, 
> 
>I am looking to procure an UK (or NATO) TEMPEST 
>standard/regulation -- JSP 
>480. Any help in finding a source for this doc will be greatly 
>appreciated. 
>Whether some confidentiality restrictions exist, they can be 
>resolved by our 
>library, as it has similar docs. 
> 
>Thanks, 
> 
>Guidea Alexandru 
>CAE Inc. 
>Montreal, CANADA 



Alexandru: 


A JSP is a British Ministry of Defence (MoD) Joint Services Publication. You
might try the MoD homepage at: 

http://www.dstan.mod.uk/index.html 

but many Comsec documents are classified, so you might have trouble getting a
copy (as in not exactly a pdf on the web ).

Ed 

Ed Price 
ed.pr...@cubic.com 
NARTE Certified EMC Engineer & Technician 
Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab 
Cubic Defense Systems 
San Diego, CA  USA 
858-505-2780  (Voice) 
858-505-1583  (Fax) 
Military & Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty 




TEMPEST regulations

2003-05-09 Thread Alexandru Guidea

Dear colleagues,

I am looking to procure an UK (or NATO) TEMPEST standard/regulation -- JSP
480. Any help in finding a source for this doc will be greatly appreciated.
Whether some confidentiality restrictions exist, they can be resolved by our
library, as it has similar docs.

Thanks,

Guidea Alexandru
CAE Inc.
Montreal, CANADA





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FW: #18328: Engineer (TEMPEST); Grand Rapids, MI

2003-01-31 Thread Jim Bacher

Forwarding for Pauline, please reply to her.  Jim


From: Pauline Rodela [mailto:paul...@midcom.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:06 PM
Subject: #18328: Engineer (TEMPEST); Grand Rapids, MI


Hello,

I obtained your name and email from the IEEE EMC Society Directors listing
at http://www.ieee.org and was wondering if you could be of any assistance
in helping me find a candidate for the below position.

I have a 6 month contract position open in Grand Rapids, MI for an Engineer
to create an emanation analysis for an airborne computer to meet
TEMPEST/1-92 test requirements. 

To be considered, the following requirements must be met:
·   Secret security clearance (Used within the last 2 years)
·   Familiar with National Security Telecommunications and Information
Systems Security Advisory (NSTISSAM) TEMPEST/1-92 test requirements
·   Familiar with DoD Instruction 5200.40, DoD Information Technology
Security Certification and Accreditation Process (DITSCAP)
·   Must be familiar with Emission Security (EMSEC) countermeasure
implementations
·   Will work with the customer to establish Smiths role in the System
Security Authorization Agreement (SSAA) and create a plan to meet
requirements
·   Must be able to perform an emanation analysis, which will form a
part of the customer's System Security Authorization Agreement

If you would like to be submitted or would know of anyone else who might be,
please reply with an updated resume and contact Pauline at (714) 579-3000
x259. Thank you and I hope to hear from you soon!


Hope you have a wonderful day! ^_^

Pauline Rodela 
Technical Recruiter
MIDCOM CORPORATION
Voice: (714) 579-3000, Ext. 259
Fax: (714) 459-7055
http://www.midcom.com


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EMC/TEMPEST Employment

2001-04-24 Thread O'Banion, Joe

DRS Advanced Programs out of Columbia, Maryland has an immediate
opening for an EMC/TEMPEST engineer with United States SECRET clearance.  If
you or an associate are interested please contact Joe O'Banion at
oban...@drs-ap.com or 410-312-5868.  Resumes can be faxed to me at
410-312-5860 and I will pass them on to Krissy Dell in Human Resources.
Thank you for your help.
Joe O'Banion
NARTE Certified EMC Engineer and
TEMPEST Professional Level II

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WANTED TEMPEST Receiver

2001-01-10 Thread MMc3913041

WANTED TEMPEST Receiver AEL TTR, Watkins Johnson 8999 with tuning range of 
100Hz to 1GHz and 10GHz; bandwidths 10Hz to 200MHz.  Please contact Mike 
McHale 727 302-2959 with information or return Email "m...@eci.esys.com" with 
details.


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Re:Wanted TEMPEST Receiver

2001-01-10 Thread Jim Bacher

forwarding for m...@eci.esys.com

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WANTED TEMPEST Receiver AEL TTR, Watkins Johnson 8999 with tuning range
100Hz to 1GHz and 10GHz; bandwidths 10Hz to 200MHz.  Please contact Mike
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RE: TEMPEST - the whole nine yards

1999-06-01 Thread James, Chris

A review of TEMPEST Legal Issues
Notice: I recieved this document a bit chopped up, while it is complete
thetext
is mismatched with the references, and several references appear to be
missing.





In the novel 1984, George Orwell foretold a future where individuals had
no 
expectation of privacy because the state monopolized the technology of
spying. 
The government watched the actions of its subjects from birth to death.
No one 
could protect himself because surveillance and counter- surveillance
technology
was controlled by the government. This note explores the legal status of

a surveillance technology ruefully known as TEMPEST[2]. 
Using TEMPEST technology the information in any digital device may be
intercepted and 
reconstructed into useful intelligence without the operative ever having
to 
come near his target. The technology is especially useful in the
interception 
of information stored in digital computers or displayed on computer
terminals. 
The use of TEMPEST is not illegal under the laws of the United
States[3], 
or England. Canada has specific laws criminalizing TEMPEST eavesdropping
but 
the laws do more to hinder surveillance countermeasures than to prevent
TEMPEST
surveillance. 
In the United States it is illegal for an individual to take effective 
counter-measures against TEMPEST surveillance. This leads to the
conundrum 
that it is legal for individuals and the government to invade the
privacy of 
others but illegal for individuals to take steps to protect their
privacy.
I. INTELLIGENCE GATHERING  
Spying is divided by professionals into two main types: human
intelligence
gathering (HUMINT) and electronic intelligence gathering (ELINT). 
As the names imply, HUMINT relies on human operatives, and ELINT 
relies on technological operatives. In the past HUMINT was the 
sole method for collecting intelligence.[4] The HUMINT operative would
steal 
important papers, observe troop and weapon movements[5], lure people
into 
his confidences to extract secrets, and stand under the eavesdrip[6] 
of houses, eavesdropping on the occupants.
As technology has progressed, tasks that once could only be performed by

humans have been taken over by machines. So it has been with spying.
Modern satellite technology allows troop and weapons movements to be 
observed with greater precision and from greater distances than a human
spy 
could ever hope to accomplish. 
The theft of documents and eavesdropping on conversations may now be
performed 
electronically. This means greater safety for the human operative, whose
only 
involvement may be the placing of the initial ELINT devices. This has 
led to the ascendancy of ELINT over HUMINT because the placement and
monitoring of ELINT devices may be performed by a technician who has no 
training in the art of spying. The gathered intelligence may be
processed 
by an intelligence expert, perhaps thousands of miles away, with no need

of field experience. ELINT has a number of other advantages over HUMINT.
If a spy is caught his existence could embarrass his employing state and
he 
could be forced into giving up the identities of his compatriots or
other 
important information. By its very nature, a discovered ELINT device
(bug) 
cannot give up any information; and the ubiquitous nature of bugs
provides 
the principle state with the ability to plausibly deny ownership or 
involvement. ELINT devices fall into two broad categories: 
trespassatory and non-trespassatory. Trespassatory bugs require some 
type of trespass in order for them to function. A transmitter might
require 
the physical invasion of the target premises for placement, or a 
microphone might be surreptitiously attached to the outside of a window.

A telephone transmitter can be placed anywhere on the phone line,
including at 
the central switch. The trespass comes either when it is physically
attached 
to the phone line, or if it is inductive, when placed in close proximity
to 
the phone line. Even microwave bugs require the placement of the
resonator 
cone within the target premises.[7] Non-trespassatory ELINT devices work

by receiving electromagnetic radiation (EMR) as it radiates through the
ether, 
and do not require the placement of bugs. Methods include
intercepting[8] 
information transmitted by satellite, microwave, and radio, including
mobile 
and cellular phone transmissions. This information was purposely
transmitted 
with the intent that some intended person or persons would receive it. 
Non-trespassatory ELINT also includes the interception of information
that 
was never intended to be transmitted. All electronic devices emit 
electromagnetic radiation. Some of the radiation, as with radio waves, 
is intended to transmit information. Much of this radiation is not 
intended to transmit information and is merely incidental to whatever
work the 
target device is performing.[9] This information can be

RE: TEMPEST

1999-06-01 Thread James, Chris

Transient ElectroMagnetic Pulse Surveillance Technology

Chris James
Engineering Services Manager
Dolby Labs Inc.
Wootton Bassett - Wiltshire - SN4 8QJ


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From: Chris Dupres [mailto:chris_dup...@compuserve.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 7:17 AM
To: Qu Pingyu
Cc: emc-pstc
Subject: TEMPEST



Hi Qu.

You wrote:


I don't think that the letters stand for anything, rather it is a
(British?) set of performance specs, standards, requirements essentially
aimed at maintaing confidential communications.  E.g. a Tempest monitor
will not bleed video or z modulation signals that may be picked up by a
sensitive receiver nearby.   I've seen a demosnstration at an exhibition
where the exhibitor of an 'Intrusive Monitor System' was able to dut up
a
screen display of all the screens around him at will, just by homing in
on
their timebases and video signals with a highly directional antenna. 
TEMPEST, seeks to eliminate this leak of 'intellligence'.

It's not only monitors, but data comms, RF, printers, anthing which
could
radiate, or conduct, data to an interested and well equipped third
party.  

At least I think that's what it is.  :-)

Chris Dupres
Surrey UK.

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TEMPEST

1999-06-01 Thread Chris Dupres

Hi Qu.

You wrote:


I don't think that the letters stand for anything, rather it is a
(British?) set of performance specs, standards, requirements essentially
aimed at maintaing confidential communications.  E.g. a Tempest monitor
will not bleed video or z modulation signals that may be picked up by a
sensitive receiver nearby.   I've seen a demosnstration at an exhibition
where the exhibitor of an 'Intrusive Monitor System' was able to dut up a
screen display of all the screens around him at will, just by homing in on
their timebases and video signals with a highly directional antenna. 
TEMPEST, seeks to eliminate this leak of 'intellligence'.

It's not only monitors, but data comms, RF, printers, anthing which could
radiate, or conduct, data to an interested and well equipped third party.  

At least I think that's what it is.  :-)

Chris Dupres
Surrey UK.

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TEMPEST

1999-06-01 Thread Qu Pingyu

Hello, Group:

Can somebody tell me what does TEMPEST stand for ? I know roughly what
TEMPEST is about but I can't find out what these 7 letters represent either
from books or internet. I suppose this is some kind of abbreviations, isn't
it ?

Regards

Qu Pingyu


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German Military/NATO TEMPEST Testing

1996-12-23 Thread Doug McKean
To whom it may concern, 

Sorry, I've been doing some hard drive cleaning 
and I've erased the message that asked for 
German Military emc standards.  

This is not intended to be a spam, but since 
this was the only informative response, I've 
decided to post it.  Again, I mean no spamming here. 

I've been contacted by the gentleman below who 
informs me that most European countries have 
a NATO agreement to be TEMPEST compliant. 
The document numbers may be different, but 
the testing is basically the same. 

I suggest you make contact at the address 
or email below: 

---< START OF MESSAGE >---

seth...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 96-12-23 10:34:16 EST, you write:
> <<
>  Could you provide as best you can any details for the following:
> 
>  1. Can the TEMPEST program that's used in the states
> be used for German military?
> 
>  2. Your company address, tel, fax, contacts, etc...
>   >>

> Doug,
>
> 1.  the standards are the same in the US and in Europe (and Germany),
> however, the document number to certify to is different.  Most companies 
> are
> certified BOTH in US and in NATO TEMPEST, but you had best be sure (we 
> are!).
> 
> 2.  SETH Corporation
> 117 Allenbill Dr
> Johnstown, Pa 15905
> phone 814-255-4417
> fax 814-255-3417
> 
> Let me know if I can help.  Another point of contact (in case I am away) is
> Mark Seth, at the same numbers.
> 
> Bruce Archambeault
> a...@sethcorp.com

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