Re: WEEE Labeling of Components vs. Systems
In message , dated Tue, 13 Jun 2006, kbalasubraman...@scmmicro.co.in writes >For an expert like John if things are appearing as "complete mess", >what will be the fate of others. I am not able to sleep peacefully >while thinking "1st July 2006". What kind of penalties can be expected, >any idea? You should not be too apprehensive. If you can show that you did the best you could under the circumstances, any penalty is likely to be mild, of the nature of an official 'you must improve' instruction to the company concerned. Individuals are rarely pursued, unless they have clearly been dishonest. The best safeguard is to write down at length what you did in order to try to comply, and what you wanted to do but couldn't, due to matters beyond your control. > I have been told that while EMC directive was introduced at the >beginning lot of vigilance activities went on but subsequently it got >reduced, is this correct? Not as far as I know; there was a quiet period before serious enforcement activity started. Consider how many millions of products there are out there, and what would happen if action were taken against a company that HAS actually done its best to cope with the confusing legislation and the non-availability of suitable parts. A good defence lawyer would ensure that all those problems were brought out in court and splashed all over the media. The authorities would look like asses or villains, and I suspect they know that. The real victim might be a small manufacturer who hasn't even tried to comply, perhaps through not knowing what needs to be done, and who can't afford to hire a good lawyer. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: WEEE Labeling of Components vs. Systems
Dear John & other experts, For an expert like John if things are appearing as "complete mess", what will be the fate of others. I am not able to sleep peacefully while thinking "1st July 2006". What kind of penalties can be expected, any idea? I have been told that while EMC directive was introduced at the beginning lot of vigilance activities went on but subsequently it got reduced, is this correct? Sincerely K.Balasubramanian Project Leader - Hardware. John Woodgate To Sent by: emc-p...@ieee.org emc-p...@ieee.org cc Subject 06/12/2006 09:01 Re: WEEE Labeling of Components vs. PMSystems In message <20060612151511.73191.qm...@web55512.mail.re4.yahoo.com>, dated Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Andy Garcia writes >It has always been my understanding that WEEE labeling is required on >devices, instruments, apparatus, what have you, but not on any of the >sub-assemblies or specific components. > >I am now told that entities in Europe are requiring that items such as >detachable power cords also need to be WEEE labeled. The justification >is that since these parts can become detached from the presumably >labeled instrument, it must also be labeled separately. I cannot see >where this is directly addressed in the directive. > >Has anyone also come accross this issue? Are you labeling systems, as >well as specific sub-components of those systems? It's a complete mess. Just do what you are asked to do and soldier on.. (with a lead-free soldier, of course) -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: WEEE Labeling of Components vs. Systems
In message <20060612151511.73191.qm...@web55512.mail.re4.yahoo.com>, dated Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Andy Garcia writes >It has always been my understanding that WEEE labeling is required on >devices, instruments, apparatus, what have you, but not on any of the >sub-assemblies or specific components. > >I am now told that entities in Europe are requiring that items such as >detachable power cords also need to be WEEE labeled. The justification >is that since these parts can become detached from the presumably >labeled instrument, it must also be labeled separately. I cannot see >where this is directly addressed in the directive. > >Has anyone also come accross this issue? Are you labeling systems, as >well as specific sub-components of those systems? It's a complete mess. Just do what you are asked to do and soldier on.. (with a lead-free soldier, of course) -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
WEEE Labeling of Components vs. Systems
Hello everyone, It has always been my understanding that WEEE labeling is required on devices, instruments, apparatus, what have you, but not on any of the sub-assemblies or specific components. I am now told that entities in Europe are requiring that items such as detachable power cords also need to be WEEE labeled. The justification is that since these parts can become detached from the presumably labeled instrument, it must also be labeled separately. I cannot see where this is directly addressed in the directive. Has anyone also come accross this issue? Are you labeling systems, as well as specific sub-components of those systems? Thanks in advance for your comments. Regards, Andy Garcia, NCE Staff Product Compliance Engineer Beckman Coulter, Inc. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
WEEE Labeling of Components vs. Systems
Hello everyone, It has always been my understanding that WEEE labeling is required on devices, instruments, apparatus, what have you, but not on any of the sub-assemblies or specific components. I am now told that entities in Europe are requiring that items such as detachable power cords also need to be WEEE labeled. The justification is that since these parts can become detached from the presumably labeled instrument, it must also be labeled separately. I cannot see where this is directly addressed in the directive. Has anyone also come accross this issue? Are you labeling systems, as well as specific sub-components of those systems? Thanks in advance for your comments. Regards, Andy Garcia, NCE Staff Product Compliance Engineer Beckman Coulter, Inc. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
